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162 and Counting

October 3, 2010 10:11 AM

Back on March 27, Noah and I bundled up and headed out to Target Field for the first time. It was a nice day, just a little chilly for a four-year-old.

It's hard to measure who was more thrilled that day.

This afternoon, Noah and I will suit up again and head out to watch game 162 (or 81, depending on how you're counting) to bookend the season. Once again, it promises to be a nice day, just a little chilly for a five-year-old.

But he's eager. I'm eager. And we're both pretty smiley about the fact that today is not the end of TF's inaugural season. Like everyone else, of course, we'll also be watching the out-of-town scoreboard pretty closely. Thankfully, it's just a question of who and when, not whether.

I'll be keeping up with comments every inning or so. If you want to post from your phone, do this:

1. First (and once only), send a message to:

twins-subscribe@ballparkmagic.com

This gets you on the "eligible" list. If you're going to text in comments (standard text messaging rates apply), make sure the subscribe message is also a text. If you're going to email your comments (free!), send the subscribe message from the same email.

2. Then, send all your comments and photos to:

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Data performance has improved slightly as the season has progressed, but I've noticed that it's significantly better before and after games, and from the upper deck concourse -- especially the south (first base) side.

We'll be in section 313, row 5 if you want to stop by and say HI.

Win Twins!

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Im ready for the playoffs!!!!!!!

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 10:19 AM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 1

Speaking of playoffs, here is an interesting theory on how to spice up the MLB and the playoffs. It clicks link in the name...

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 11:13 AM by jared Highlight this comment 2

fiesta, Rick, and others (who are still thinking about the subject of subversive advertising),

Not more than a month ago I did the same thing at a family party..."and this trip to the mound is brought to you by Kwik Trip's no fee ATMs, because $20 shouldn't cost you $21.50," and my dad went, "ughhh..."

I think the in-game radio advertising that they make Dan and John do, the various elements of the game that are "sponsored" by this or that entity, are much more insidious than actual advertisements. They are played at a time when you don't have the option of turning the radio off because you're trying to listen to the game.

It would be interesting to listen to a game broadcast from 20 years ago to hear the difference. I'll be the rhythm of it would be completely different. I'll be it would slower, more clearly defined, more spaces of silence (albeit very small ones), and just overall a completely different feel. The difference between today and 20 years ago in TV is even a big one in terms of those qualities.

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 11:23 AM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 3

Strib reported that yesterday's game was the 77th sellout. Calendars were being distributed on the way out as well as on the way in. Does this mean that fewer than 30,000 people entered the ballpark?

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 11:27 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 4

Ben,

They are not efficient in handing out items at TF. You have to sometimes walk in 10 feet to actually see that someone is handing something out. Also, if you wanted to, you could walk around for 10 minutes, come back and still act as though you just walked in...I have seen people do this.

In order to get the calendar, you had a long line with only 2 people handing out items.

Also, this is the 2nd day of handing out the calendars. I am sure there are people that bypassed this the 2nd day.

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 11:36 AM by TK Highlight this comment 5

i have not been on here for a long time, and when i do i dont stay long, is kev in az still alive?

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 11:37 AM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 6

TK --- interesting. I just get a bit worn out with this constant back slapping about sellouts and think actual attendance is a much better gauge of interest in the event. I really feel that selling a huge % of STs to people who do not give a RA about the team or any particular game greatly diminishes the spin value of the "sellout" spiel, or should.

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 11:53 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 7

I was just wondering the same thing Mazarati. I click on the picture links in the right hand column from time to time, mostly just to satisfy my curiosity about the particular picture I'm clicking on, but I'll invariably end up reading the article and some of the comments again. Yesterday I saw a kevin in az comment followed by a comment by you, and wondered where you guys have been...

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 11:59 AM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 8

Of course, the Vikings have not been a topic of conversation for quite a while on here, which may explain his absence...

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 12:00 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 9

He's logged on right now, gents.

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 12:31 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 10

But as soon as I posted, he disappeared.

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 12:32 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 11

Great little bit on Nancy Faust (White Sox organist who is retiring today) on the WGN pre-game.

41 years of playing! That's a heck of a career. Enjoy your retirement, Nancy!

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 12:57 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 12

She was there for Disco Demolition!

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 1:01 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 13



Yep, it's done, ugly, no big deal.

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 1:14 PM by Rick 14

"The Schmelz Countryside Volkswagen Scouting Report."

There are more advertisement words in that sentence then words referring to what the thing is.

I'd like to see a list of all the "broadcast elements" of the game that are available to advertisers for sponsorship. Or maybe I wouldn't...

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 1:15 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 15

I cannot wait to see a playoff atmosphere at TF.
Gonna be exciting fellas (and any ladies that hang out here).
Let's keep winning, ay?

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 1:26 PM by luke Highlight this comment 16

Under what scenario are the Twins most likely to play a night game on Thursday? My wife has an issue with escaping from work.

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 2:18 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 17

The one unfolding now. If both Yankees and Rays either win or lose, we get the Yankees (which means a night game).

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 2:40 PM by Rick 18

Bring on the Yankees!!!! Redemption time baby!!

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 2:43 PM by tom (aka tcmark) Highlight this comment 19

Hot chocolate vendors are roaming the shade. $6.50 and pretty hot. Took two innings with the lid off before it was cool enough to dirnk.

Also I've seen some popcorn in old fashioned cones.

GBA being flubbed big time as I write...

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 2:44 PM by Rick 20

Same singer flubbed her way through "O Canada"...

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 2:47 PM by Rick 21

"Start spreading the news..."

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 3:00 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 22

"The one unfolding now. If both Yankees and Rays either win or lose, we get the Yankees (which means a night game)."

Both nights likely (not complaining - just asking)?

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 3:22 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 23

Well, my parents will be glad that they can finally watch Twins baseball for the next few games again. Dish Network did not buy into Fox outragous pricing and no longer carry FS-N.

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 4:08 PM by tk Highlight this comment 24



And we'll see you on Wednesday night.

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 4:09 PM by Rick 25

Congrats on a very successful first year at TF! I've been reading this site for a few years now following the TF construction, so I feel like I have some kind of connection. I'd say the new park has been a home run for the Twins and Minnesota.

As for me, I have 81 games left of my Marlins playing in a football stadium. Can't wait for 2012 and a real ballpark!

Best of luck in the playoffs! I'll be rooting for you guys (especially if you are playing the Yankees!) Go Twins!

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 4:22 PM by Greg Highlight this comment 26

Got my Target Field book in the mail this weekend.
Well worth the $40.
Great pictures...and lots of them.
If you're on the fence about buying one, either at The Yard or by mail, get it, you wont be disappointed.

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 4:40 PM by luke Highlight this comment 27

when will we know about times?

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 5:23 PM by MGM Highlight this comment 28

If the Giants can pull off this win, I would expect the times to come shortly after the game. If there is a tie-break necessary, we might not know the time until tomorrow?

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 5:43 PM by tom (aka tcmark) Highlight this comment 29

Not sure this means anything, but Stubhub, now has the first two Twin's Yankee's matchups listed as 1:00pm starts. No start times for the Ray's vs Texas series. I would not take this as the final word, but it has been changed to an actual game time by someone.

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 5:52 PM by minn55441 Highlight this comment 30

the MLB site still has no times listed for any of the games.

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 6:03 PM by minn55441 Highlight this comment 31

My guess is that we will have the night game. It's all about $$ and even though it would be exciting for Texas/Tampa to be in prime time, the $$ doesn't come in with those teams.

It's kinda like the Gophers when the X hosts the Final Five. Gophers get the prime time game.

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 6:27 PM by TK Highlight this comment 32

I mean, if the MLB.com advertisement at the top is any indication...

"Yankees AL Wild Card: Official Cap and Tee (Shop)"

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 6:34 PM by TK Highlight this comment 33

I see the NL start times posted Cinny @ Philadephia 5:07 Wed and Braves @ SF 8:37 on thursday. So thinking we got the late start on wed and the 5:07 Thursday???

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 7:15 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 34

OK here we go!!!!! According to Lavelle Neal # Star Tribune

Game 1 on Wednesday is scheduled to start at 7:37. Game 2 on Thursday will start at 5:07. Game 3 from New York will start at 7:37 (all time Central).

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 7:18 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 35

Man it was toasty all day in Sec 326. Sun all day. Walked around a bit and it seemed to be about 20 degrees cooler in the shade. Looks like clear skies and above normal temps all week!!!!!

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 7:43 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 36

Will be there thursday!!!!!!!

American League Division Series Series Date Network Game Time (ET)
ALDS Game 1: TEX @ TB Wednesday, October 6 TBS 1:37 p.m.
ALDS Game 1: NYY @ MIN Wednesday, October 6 TBS 8:37 p.m.
ALDS Game 2: TEX @ TB Thursday, October 7 TBS 2:37 p.m.
ALDS Game 2: NYY @ MIN Thursday, October 7 TBS 6:07 p.m.
ALDS Game 3: TB @ TEX Saturday, October 9 TBS 5:07 p.m.
ALDS Game 3: MIN @ NYY Saturday, October 9 TBS 8:37 p.m.
ALDS Game 4*: MIN @ NYY Sunday, October 10 TBS TBA
ALDS Game 4*: TB @ TEX Sunday, October 10 TBS TBA
ALDS Game 5*: NYY @ MIN Tuesday, October 12 TBS TBA
ALDS Game 5*: TEX @ TB Tuesday, October 12 TBS TBA

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 7:57 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 37

Here is the NL schedule

National League Division Series Series Date Network Game Time (ET)
NLDS Game 1: CIN @ PHI Wednesday, October 6 TBS 5:07 p.m.
NLDS Game 1: ATL @ SF Thursday, October 7 TBS 9:37 p.m.
NLDS Game 2: CIN @ PHI Friday, October 8 TBS 6:07 p.m.
NLDS Game 2: ATL @ SF Friday, October 8 TBS 9:37 p.m.
NLDS Game 3: PHI @ CIN Sunday, October 10 TBS TBA
NLDS Game 3: SF @ ATL Sunday, October 10 TBS TBA
NLDS Game 4*: PHI @ CIN Monday, October 11 TBS TBA
NLDS Game 4*: SF @ ATL Monday, October 11 TBS TBA
NLDS Game 5*: CIN @ PHI Wednesday, October 13 TBS TBA
NLDS Game 5*: ATL @ SF Wednesday, October 13 TBS TBA

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 8:09 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 38

Wow 4 games on Sunday!

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 8:11 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 39

Has anybody seen what Vegas oddsmakers are saying about the playoffs now that the field is set?

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 8:46 PM by Rick 40

Rick, looks like the oddsmakers are liking the skankies! Now there is a shock!

The American League Playoffs are set to begin this week and the New York Yankees are still the favorites to win the pennant despite being in the wild card spot.

Bet 2010 MLB Playoff Odds

Oddsmakers from online sports book BroburySports.com have given the Yankees 6/5 odds to win the American League pennant while other odds are Tampa Bay at 7/5, Minnesota at 7/2, and Texas at 5/1.

The Yankees earned the AL Wild Card spot at 95-67. They fell short of winning the AL East by 1 game against Tampa Bay. New York will have to open the playoffs at Minnesota. The Yankees are 43-38 on the road this year and 52-29 at home. The Yankees and Twins begin their series on Wednesday night.

The Rays won the AL East this year and have the top spot in the American League playoffs. Tampa Bay is 96-66 on the season and 49-32 at home while going 47-34 on the road. The Rays will begin the playoffs against Texas. Their series begins Wednesday afternoon.

The Twins are 94-68 on the season, winning the AL Central by 6 games over the Chicago White Sox. Minnesota was 53-28 at home this year, best of any team in the American League.

Texas won the AL West by 9 games over Oakland. The Rangers were 51-30 at home and 90-72 overall.

For a complete list of odds to win the 2010 AL Pennant, see below.

2010 AL Pennant Odds To Win:

New York Yankees 6/5

Tampa Bay Rays 7/5

Minnesota Twins 7/2

Texas Rangers 5/1

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 9:29 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 41

TwinkFan: Either 2, 3, or 4 baseball games next Sunday. And I can imagine how much the networks would hate it if all 4 are necessary, what with almighty football and all...

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 9:47 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 42

Your right. Some of those game may be if necessary come Sunday! Need to get off to a good start with a W come wednesday.

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 10:02 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 43

Great season for the Twins! At the game on Saturday and what a finish!! I got a password via E-mail to purchase ALCS tickets but I'm not planning on purchasing any. Whoever wants my password just shoot me an email

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 10:37 PM by ER-GMan Highlight this comment 44

Sorry everyone but I already gave my password to somebody! One question: how do I go about putting a picture within a comment on here?

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 11:27 PM by ER-GMan Highlight this comment 45

I have a code for tomorrows ALCS ticket session. What are the fees for this and what amount is not refundable if the games are not necessary?
We will beat the Yankees, but I would guess that there is a chance to purchase game 4 in the series even though a fourth game would depend on the Texas Tampa result in the other first round. How bad would you get dinged if you purchase the tickets and then the game is not played?

I also noticed that there are Legends club tickets for sale on stubhub for DR. I assume this to be "drink rail", as the Twins announced that standing room would be available in the legends club during the playoffs. Will these be available during tomorrows session? I didn't hear anyone mention them during the ALDS opportunity. Were they only sold to Legends club members in a private sale?

Posted on October 3, 2010 at 11:38 PM by minn55441 Highlight this comment 46

My coworker just invited me to the Thursday game! /happydance/

:-)

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 08:20 AM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 47

minn55441,

I bought some tickets for the ALDS, and it was about $7 per ticket for a fee. I assume the ticket fee would be the same for the LCS, so if the game doesnt happen, you would be out $7 per ticket. (disclaimer: this is only my assumption, i do not know this for a fact)

On that note, i had a friend get seats in section 332, left field... for i think $32 face value. Standing room only is $40 face value... what the heck? I know they arent great seats, but at least you get a seat. Are SRO really more desirable?

Go twins

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 08:35 AM by Thrillhouse Highlight this comment 48

If game isn't played you will be refunded for ticket price plus all convenience charges. You will only not be refunded the print at home fee.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 08:46 AM by tom Highlight this comment 49

tom,

good to know, i thought you lose out on the fees too. that is most excellent.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 08:56 AM by Thrillhouse Highlight this comment 50

Thrillhouse, it's that way for the regular season too. SRO were $20 and you could sit in the Skyline View or Field View sections for cheaper than that as well as pay the same for a seat in other areas of the park.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 08:58 AM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 51

Thrillhouse the fees on the ALCS were $7.00 per ticket plus $6.00 processing fee for your order. Yep fees suck but what you gonna do? Yep my season tickets Skyline View seats are $12.00 next year will be $13.00 each. Not sure if they will raise prices on standing room next year or not.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 09:17 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 52

Buffalo,

guess i didnt realize that was the cost of those tickets. Only time i sat up in upper left field was the opener and the seats were more for that game and it was before SRO were being sold.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 09:18 AM by Thrillhouse Highlight this comment 53

They refund both processing and Convenience fees on unused games? Course I guess my balance if any will go to next years season tickets which need to be in by Oct 11th.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 09:20 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 54

The whole idea of pricing SRO tickets higher than seats is a joke. It makes no sense, and leads to a bunch of empty seats in the less expensive areas.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 09:25 AM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 55

JC, there won't be any empty seats for the playoffs

Twinkfan,
You will be refunded convenience fees for single game purchases to unplayed games...season tix holders will not be refunded those forty dollar processing fees

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 09:29 AM by eightmenout Highlight this comment 56

Just got two tickets for ALCS 'game 3'.

This week is off to a pretty good start for me! :-)

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:20 AM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 57

did anyone get anything other than section 329-334?

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:22 AM by tom (aka tcmark) Highlight this comment 58

Very painless process to get my 4 ALCS tix from the "opportunity" lottery this morning. Yes, a whole gauntlet of "ifs" to pass through before the game would even be played, but I tried to make it easy on myself today and went for later in the series -- fit my calendar better anyway -- rather than Game 1. 'Best Available' for Home Game 3 (which could be either Game 5 Oct 20 vs Tampa or Game 6 Oct 22 vs Texas): HR Porch View Sec 329 Row 9.

Cuddy, if we actually play that game, I'll bring my glove.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:25 AM by schweady Highlight this comment 59

eightmenout...I don't mean the seats weren't sold, but people are buying them so they can do SRO for less than what they'd have to pay for SRO tickets. They come and stand behind home plate, and will probably do so even more to see Yankees up close.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:46 AM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 60

It's time eliminate the crowding at typical SRO spots by designating standing spots and corresponding SRO ticket numbers, like I've seen at other ballparks. If you bought a ticket for a seat, you don't belong in my SRO spot (and vice versa). At least one wouldn't feel like they had to get there as soon as the gates open, jostle for elbow room, and 'hold it' until after the game for fear of losing your place.

But, I'm sure the Twins would find that there are far fewer viable viewing spots to stand than the number of SRO tickets being sold.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:00 AM by schweady Highlight this comment 61

I'm sure that evaluating the SRO issues is on the Twins' agenda for the off-season. There's no question that it's gotten completely out of hand.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:07 AM by Rick 62

I'm not a big fan of selling SRO seats, but I really don't like selling drink rail seats in the Legends Club. That essentially takes away an amenity from the Legends Club members that pay for the privilege. I usually get dinner and a drink and go sit at the window to relax before going out to my seat.

I understand it's the playoffs, but the idea of creating seats out of thin air seems to take away from everyone and devalues the experience.

Anyone know what the maximum number of SRO tickets the Twins will sell / have sold?

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:10 AM by jfh Highlight this comment 63

100% agreed jfh. The Twins/MLB selling the inside drink rail in the Legends Club during the playoffs is a slap in the face to all the Legends Club seat owners. Those could be real nice places to see the game while also warming up (the weather is guaranteed to start getting chilly). This also adds more congestion to the concourse/bathrooms/lines for food & beverage etc. One of the main amenities of the LC was not having everyone breathing down your neck like the main concourse behind home plate.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:22 AM by Max Highlight this comment 64

I've never seen "designated standing spots" at an MLB park other than "stand behind this line". The Twins did at least add lines this year behind the WC sections so fans in those seats didn't have people literally breathing down their neck.

There are some areas where you can have SRO that don't interfere with normal concession/restroom/traffic flow, but you always end up with folks just about blocking aisles at the top of the concourses.

But I wouldn't be surprised if marketing sells Full season SRO "seats" next year.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:23 AM by jfh Highlight this comment 65

jfh - I want to say it was 1500, but that was in July when DSP was on the radio. At that time, he said they were continously evaluating the numbers for SRO tickets. I could be wrong, and I am sure the number goes up and down, but I want to say it was 1500 at that time in July.

Rick is right on, the SRO has gotten way out of hand at Target Field.
It will only be worse in October when fans congregate under the radiant heaters throughout the concourse.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:24 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 66

The Twins spent the first 2/3 of the season trying to figure out how many SRO tickets they could sell before it became a comfort issue for the "regular" ticket holders. It's like product pricing --- you raise the price incrementally until sales begin to fall off (the choke point) and then back off just a bit.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:24 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 67

Anybody know of any bars that will have good specials for the games this week? I am going to leave work at noon on Thursday (work downtown already) and head over to a bar for a few hours.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:30 AM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 68

Legends Club members should make their feelings about drink rail tickets known to their ticket reps. I agree that selling those significantly devalues the LC experience, especially in October.

To their credit, the Twins have shown some creativity while getting to know their new facility, and they have remained sensitive to fan responses.

This particular idea should be shut down quickly.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:34 AM by Rick 69

Pat I know Sneaky Petes has some pretty good happy hour prices. I will probably enjoy a couple brews with some apps there before the game thursday. I hear Wally the Beerman's new gig is there. Althougth I kinda like getting my 20oz buds served by the nice babes at the tub. I'm sure downtown will be rocking in the bars both nights!!LOL!

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:58 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 70

Man if we only played 500 ball the last 10 games we would have cinched best record. Oh well. Lets get it done in the first round! Have we ever hosted the first round before? We beat the Angels one year then lose to the A's second round?

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 12:02 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 71

Bring on the Yankees, I have a feeling the Twins are for real this go round. The Yankees have never made it out of the first round being a Wild Card, let's ensure this course plays out once again!

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 12:06 PM by tk Highlight this comment 72

We had home-field in the ALDS in 2006 with Santana going game 1, but he gave up a monstrous homerun to Frank Thomas in the first inning and the Twins went on to get swept in 3 games.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 12:06 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 73

There is a Sid Hartman statue being erected next to Target Center at the entrance of the Target Plaza Ramp (the corner where Hubert's is). The base of the statue is already there with some inscription about Sid.

I just want to know: WHHHHY???

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 12:06 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 74

Maybe the old boy paid for it? LOL!

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 12:09 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 75

Morneau officially shut down for the year-per the Pioneer Press & StarTrib.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 12:11 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 76

I brought this up a week ago or so and think it got missed. The LC SRO designation is gone on the post season ticket pricing. Does anyone know if they actually did sell those tickets? I'm pretty sure it was a line item on the post season pricing originally.

I, too, will be very pissed if they pack that full of SROs through post-season, when the warmer temps and shorter lines will be most important.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 12:14 PM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 77

Morneau never showed up for the playoffs when he was healthy...no big deal.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 12:21 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 78

I have tickets in the Legends club for Thursdays game and was wondering how many seats are in a row. Does anyone have know? I am in section R

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 12:43 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 79

It's a lesson in human nature, eh, TTH? A big part of getting "icon" status is just sticking around and doing the same thing over and over long enough until you crack enough people's consciousness.

(That's not a knock on Sid, by the way.)

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 12:46 PM by Rick 80

How are they erecting a statue of Sid F'in Hartman before Hrbek or Oliva? That is insane.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 12:58 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 81

It's not the Twins doing the Sid statue. It's some downtown group.

The Twins already have announced Oliva and Hrbek for next year.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 1:04 PM by Rick 82

That's calming a little bit. I know they are doing them both next year, but if they were paying to have Sid's before than that would be madness. Talk about a waste of money though

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 1:07 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 83

PatMeares, the Twins did not commission this statue. The Minneapolis Arts Commission approved the statue and a group of downtown business people commissioned the sculpture by local artist Nick Legeros.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 1:08 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 84

Look closely to see if you can read this inscription on the base of Sid's statue:
"Sponsored in part by Sanford Health Retirement Community"...

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 1:26 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 85

Jeff,

I am in LC sec B and there are 20 seats per row. I am not sure if they are the same all the way around the stadium.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 1:58 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 86

Why the heck do the Twins not have Jose Morales on the postseason roster?

Why do they need Tolbert, Casilla AND Punto?? Put Morales on the roster and take out Tolbert or Casilla. He can play decent at 1B and he can provide a much better bat off the bench rather than Punto, Casilla or Tolbert. Yes, Morales does not have as much speed, but you don't need 3 speed/utility guys on the roster if you ask me.

Who is going to be the backup 1B?? MATT TOLBERT?? I have a feeling this decision will come back and hurt the Twins if in fact they decide to stay with the 3 speedy/utility guys.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 2:16 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 87

I'm not a huge Sid fan and he has become somewhat of a joke in the later stages of his career, but his contributions to the Minneapolis sports community do deserve some recognition. Remember, this guy was the GM for the Minneapolis Lakers at age 27, while he was still writing for the Minneapolis Daily Times by the way. Quite a feat, even though it's one of the reasons I don't particularly like him since it's also quite a conflict of interest.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 2:21 PM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 88

Mike ---

Tolbert is the back-up first baseman. I hope I am dead wrong but I fear it's not going to make much difference once the Yanks start jacking balls all over the county.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 2:21 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 89

Morales has only played 1B twice. Tolbert is more versatile in where he can play.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 2:30 PM by tk Highlight this comment 90

Do you suppose Cuddyer had better prepare himself for some high inside fastballs?
I'm not sayin'; I'm just sayin'...

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 3:01 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 91

Well we all know how Gardy loves Nicky. Tolbert does have some speed for pinch running and Lexy can play some short. Gonna need some pitching and hitting to beat the big fat lefty Wed! Interesting take below.

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The Yankees, making their 49th postseason appearance, will beat Minnesota in their Division Series because the Yankee are the Yankees. They don't worry about end-of-the season losing when they finished 9-17.

And besides, they know how to beat the Twins and their offense will pound the Twins' inexperienced pitching staff.

Since 2002, the Yankees have a 63-20 record against the Twins, including 9-2 in the postseason and a sweep last year, even though the Twins had a lead during the sixth inning in each of the first three games. The Yankees always find a way to beat the Twins.

And, the Yankees will win because lefty CC Sabathia, a 21-game winner, will likely pitch two of the possible five games, and an offense that scored 859 runs, most in the AL, will score runs in pitcher-friendly Target Field.

Derek Jeter didn't have his best season, but he'll continue to frustrate the Twins with big hits at the top of the order. Then, the power-hitting lineup, which includes Mark Teixeira (33 home runs), Alex Rodriguez (30) and Robinson Cano and Nick Swisher (29 each), will take over.

The Yankees will lose ...

The Yankees will lose a Division Series to the Twins for the first time because they will be worn out, their rotation will falter and they won't be able to hang the Yankee Stadium mystique on the Twins. Plus, they don't wear the tag of wild-card team well.

The Yankees are beaten down by a never-ending race with the Rays in the final two months when the teams were never separated by more than 2 ½ games after July 26. Plus, three games in the final 24 hours of the season in Boston, doesn't help.

Lefty CC Sabathia is fine as a starter, but lefty Andy Pettitte will feel the effects of missing nine weeks with a groin injury. He's given up 22 hits in 13 1/3 innings since returning. A.J. Burnett had ERAs of 7.80 and 6.14 during each of the final two months, and Phil Hughes will show fatigue from too many innings. The Yankees wanted to limit him to 175 in his first season. He's thrown 176 1/3 innings.

This will the first time in the postseason that the Yankees haven't had home-field advantage vs. the Twins. The Yankees lost 8-4 to Boston on Sunday to become the wild-card team. In each of three previous seasons as the wild-card team – in 1995, 1997 and 2007 – the Yankees have always lost in the first round.

By Mel Antonen

Tags:New York Yankees Minnesota Twins Derek Jeter Andy Pettitte Mariano Rivera Jorge Posada

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 3:16 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 92

I planned to introduce this with a new post (and will officially later tonight), but wanted you all to get a head start:

BallparkMagic 2010 Playoff Challenge

(Yes, there are prizes!)

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 3:24 PM by Rick 93

Thanks Rick, I took the locals over the Phillies in 7 games! Call me a homer! LOL!

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 3:31 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 94

Why would we keep Butera on the roster and not Morales if Mauer is going catch every game? What is Butera going to do, pinch hit or pinch run? Morales would be a much better choice than Butera. Gardy needs to start thinking a bit more when it comes to playoffs. We won't have one solid hitter off the bench.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 3:57 PM by FD Highlight this comment 95

Is the target web cam down for good? I know it only went back to may 2010. Found this article trying to find it!

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Watching the Target Field Web cam is like watching paint dryBy Emily Kaiser, Tue., Oct. 14 2008 @ 4:30PM Comments (6) Categories: Sports
Share 0diggsdiggThe Minnesota Twins have a new Web cam up so taxpayers can watch their money disappear at the Target Field construction site. The camera is located on the roof of the Ford Centre, which is directly across 5th Street from Target Field.

View the Web cam after the jump.

View the Web cam here. Feel free to zoom to your heart's content.

Look! A construction worker just took a 32 minute break! Can't he be fired for misusing taxpayer money by taking standing around too long? We would hope so. We walk by the new site every day on our way to and from work, so we're your watch dogs on foot.

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Mike says:
Emily, do you mind if I ask you a question?
Can you tell me the exact date the stadium tax went into effect?

I'll answer that for you, NO! You have no idea, you know why, because the tax is so small you never noticed.

State and city governments give taxpayer money to wealthy entities all the time. So, stop whining and take acivics class.

Posted On: Tuesday, Oct. 14 2008 @ 6:02PM

EastCoastDoug says:
Target. What a wonderful, anal, corporation.

Posted On: Tuesday, Oct. 14 2008 @ 6:04PM

Helm Matthews says:
I swear I just saw someone toking on a spleef. I probably spelled "spleef" wrong.

Posted On: Tuesday, Oct. 14 2008 @ 8:25PM

Al P says:
Just because governments give money to wealthy entities all the time doesn't make it right, even it is a small tax (which is actually STILL a tax, even though it is only 0.15%).

If you could put 3 cents of every twenty dollars into something useful like taxpayer's hands, rather than up Carl Pohlad's ass, Minnesota would be a way better state.

Posted On: Tuesday, Oct. 14 2008 @ 11:26PM

Tim says:
what a disingenious post. the stadiums being built much to your dismay, so keep enjoying that webcam view there. i'll enjoy the thought of how much the ballpark rising annoys you.

Posted On: Wednesday, Oct. 15 2008 @ 8:51AM

Ryan says:
This is the type of mentality that leaves Minneapolis such an ugly city once you leave the parks. I think it will be nice to have a neighborhood worth going to where there was only surface parking lots, a garbage burner, a highway, a bus garage, strip clubs, and panhandlers. Is that really such a bad thing to spend taxpayer dollars on? Cleveland is a nicer place to live than Minneapolis now, and you seem to be ok with that. We're becoming the Gary, IN of the Northwest.

You also seem to have some sort of problem with people taking lunch breaks.

Posted On: Wednesday, Oct. 15 2008 @ 9:31AM

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 3:57 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 96

Question for the group. A vendor of mine invited me to game one in one of the skyline suites, (Face value is higher than Champions Club Tier 3...WTF) and I haven't seen any information about the skyline suites. Can anyone provide pictures, or any information about these suites. There is little to no information available that I can find on the internet. I know there has to be a ballpark magic spy or two that could help me out.

Thanks!

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 7:19 PM by TylerSection126 Highlight this comment 97

From what I know...there are two skyline suites. One has a capacity of 50 ($12,000/game ALDS and $17,500/game ALCS) while the other has a capacity of 46 ($11,040/game ALDS and $16,100/game ALCS)

They are along the third base base line.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 7:30 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 98

These pictures aren't very good (it's kind of dark in those suites), but these are pictures of one of the skyline suites:




I would describe them as bigger versions of the regular suites, plus a bar. Sort of like small clubs.

The seats outside the doors are like the other suite seats -- very big and soft, sort of like the Champions Club:


Not sure what the food/booze options and prices are. That's probably a question to ask your host.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 7:44 PM by Rick 99

I found one more picture which at least confirms that there are food and booze options:


Posted on October 4, 2010 at 7:47 PM by Rick 100

PHOTO: ALDS Logo at Target Field
CLICK MY NAME

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 7:51 PM by michael Highlight this comment 101

Rick - I knew you would have the answers! Thanks for your help! Any idea what sections these suites are over? Are they over 125-127 or are they closer to home plate?

I really appreciate the help!

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 7:51 PM by TylerSection126 Highlight this comment 102

They are the very last suites down the left field line:


Posted on October 4, 2010 at 7:59 PM by Rick 103

I sat in the Skyline Suites for both exhibition games. They were great. I got through on some deal that I at first assumed was an error on the Twins website right before the first exhibition game started and got the tickets for nearly free.

They probably aren't worth it if you're paying for it, but for free it's a hell of a deal. We got two drink tickets and all the food you could eat, and it was good stuff too. Two different types of pizza, burgers, hot dogs with fixings, roasted veggies and more. Highly recommend doing it at least once if you get a chance to.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 9:07 PM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 104

Based on their location, I certainly don't think they are worth the face value price of $240 per ticket, but hey, it's not my dime my vendor is treating me. Based on what the twins website says:

Skyline Suite Catering: The prices listed above are inclusive of a food & beverage menu. Several other menu options are available at an additional cost.

I'm assuming that all food and sodas will be included. Beer/Liquor have an additional cost.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 9:12 PM by TylerSection126 Highlight this comment 105

TylerSection126 - Your assumption is correct for the regular season. I don't believe that any food or beverage is included in that per ticket price for the Event Suites or the Skyline Suites for the post season.

Yes, it is more than the Champions Club, with nothing close to the CC amenities and freebies. That is more of a fact that the Champions Club prices were marked up very little (% wise) for the post season compared to other seats. My Fieldview seats went up 300% for the ALCS. Champions Club went up 25%

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:17 PM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 106

On KARE-11, Randy Shaver just referred to Justin Morneau being left off the postseason roster due to injury as "surprising" to many people. Surprising to whom? He hasn't played since July and there have been too many stories to count discussing his lack of progress towards returning. If the Twins were going to play Morneau this postseason, he'd have been back at some point in the latter part of September. No one ought to be shocked at this news. I stopped worrying about Morneau playing this postseason weeks ago and started worrying whether he'll be back in 2011 and beyond. Post concussion syndrome can be career ending.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:33 PM by Jorge Highlight this comment 107

Legend Club L has 13 in lowest row. I suspect the middle sections in general have around 13 to 15. I noticed Section R has huge numbers of tickets for sale on stubhub throughout the season. Maybe it has the most seats.
Speaking of SRO, there is a great deal on stubub for Wednesday's game. Four SRO for only $79,999 each!

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:44 PM by robin Highlight this comment 108

Buffalo,

We both know that was an error. The Twins accidentally broadcasted the Umpire and Visiting club comps on the public site about 2-3 hours before the game and you could check them out for free.

The only way you could have bought them is if you represented yourself on the purchase page as with the umpires or member of visiting team.

Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:26 PM by tom (aka tcmark) Highlight this comment 109

Tom, I don't know anything about that. I just bought the tickets and they let me in. When we went to the first exhibition game I firmly expected to be turned away, first at the gate and then at the actual club level. They never did, so it's all history now. I didn't represent myself as anything other than myself at any time during that transaction for your information.

Posted on October 5, 2010 at 12:00 AM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 110

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Looking up toward Sixth Street.









The Puckett atrium fireplace is just barely visible at the far left.



The equivalent spot on the model.



The Northstar station at night



A view straight on of the Pro Shop area and ticket windows (just barely visible). The piers you see beneath the plaza are already almost completed (see final photo).



The glare problem.



These stairs will go up to the centerfield pavilion.



World Series trophies on display at left



This view is from the roof of a warehouse which stood where the A ramp is today. The HERC is now located where the tracks turned north (toward the top).






Many people will approace the park from this direction and it's a pretty great first glimpse. It features all the design elements in modestly condensed form, and still manages to look like a ballpark (instead of something else).















Doors directly to the concourse, and a view of the stands beyond



A slightly different elevation drawing, again viewed from Fifth Street, with some labels. (Click to enlarge.)



Looking back toward the ballpark from Third Avenue and Fifth Street. Again, the track configuration is now clearly visible.



Reverse view, now looking down Sixth toward the park. The Met Stadium flag pole will be right there!






Don Swanson, left, in-coming commander of the Richfield American Legion, and Joe Kennedy, right, out-going commander, are pictured with the Legion's new flag pole, which once stood at old Metropolitan Stadium. (Click to enlarge.)












I took this picture from the Overlook at great personal risk, because everything Thome was hitting was landing out that direction.






Sharing and Caring Hands, as viewed from the ballpark site about a block away. Note transaction in progress in the shadows.



Plaza overview






A trailer village has sprung up to the south.



Cushions!






Spring of 1982 (click to enlarge greatly -- can you pick out Kent Hrbek?)



The east wall of the building looks like it will be the first part completed. These are probably supports for the plaza, and they hug the very edge of the site.



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Two concepts here remain in the final design. First is the oddly-shaped pavilion in center. Second is the section just above the right field fence. In the current design this section will hang over the field by a few feet. The original doesn't do that, but you can see that the concept goes way back in the planning.






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A sign that your mall is all but dead: roped off escalators. (This is at about 4:00 PM on a weekday.)



More flowers, more pennants.









Limestone still dominates the Seventh Street walkway from a pedestrian point of view. But brick take over as you move upward -- a concession to cost, no doubt.






Wind veil install from across Seventh



From about two blocks away you can finally get an idea of what it looks like. Just to my left (but out of view) was a valet parking stand where a limo was idling.


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DSP - Dave St. Peter

FSE - Full Season Equivalent

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HERC - Hennepin Energy Resource Company (aka the Garbage Burner)

HPB - Home Plate Box

HRP - Home Run Porch

LC - Legends Club

LRT - Light Rail Transit

MBA - Minnesota Ballpark Authority (will own Target Field)

MOA - Mall of America

MSFC - Minnesota Sports Facilities Commission (owns the Metrodome)

NYS - New Yankee Stadium

SRO - Standing Room Only

STH - Season Ticket Holder

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