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Bring on the Stars

September 1, 2012 3:11 PM

The worst-kept secret in Minnesota sports history is "secret" no more: The Twins will host the All-Star game at Target Field on Tuesday, July 15, 2014.

As you may know, only one other team was "bidding" on the right to host the event, but the odds against the Cubs were pretty long. For one thing, '14 is an American League year since the location still roughly rotates between leagues as a vestige of the days when home field advantage in the World Series also rotated in a similar manner (and the days when the "league" distinction actually meant more than the DH rule).

But even the centennial of the venerable Wrigley Field could not overcome the fact that it is a decrepit relic of a ballpark, barely able to host a regular major league game, let alone one of the biggest events of the baseball season.

I certainly feel the same warmth and affection for the old place that everyone feels, but there's a reality which has not yet been addressed on the north side of Chicago. Once they get the place shored up (or -- dare I say it? -- replaced), they'll certainly get their turn.

At Wednesday's press conference, Bud Selig said again that he used to have to "beg" cities to take the game, and maybe that's somewhat plausible, but nobody had to beg the Twins. Maybe you remember this scene from September 10, 2008:

That's the roof of the Target Center, where a very similar cast of characters gathered to announce, in grand fashion, that they were bidding on the event which was then six years in future. At the time, it was really pretty clear that the application was essentially the award, even though the ballpark experience being assembled some 400 feet away was still mostly imagination.

Selig confirmed as much at the press conference, calling the decision to award the game to the Twins "pretty easy". More and more it looks like there is a pecking order by which these decisions are made, factoring in league rotation, new/renovated ballparks, and time since last hosting. That actually makes it possible to guess where the game might be played in each of the coming years:

2013 (NL) New York (Citi Field)
2014 (AL) Minnesota
2015 (NL) Washington
2016 (AL) Toronto (possibly post-renovation)
2017 (NL) Los Angeles (Dodger Stadium, post-renovation)
2018 (AL) Tampa Bay (assumes new ballpark circa 2016)
2019 (NL) Cincinnati
2020 (AL) Oakland (assumes new ballpark circa 2016)
2021 (NL) Chicago (Wrigley Field, post-renovation or rebuild)
2022 (AL) Baltimore
2023 (NL) San Diego
2024 (AL) Texas
2025 (NL) Miami
2026 (AL) Cleveland
2027 (NL) Philadelphia

I've modified this list a little bit since it was first published to reflect the Astros' move to the AL, which eliminates the need to double-up on NL teams once per cycle, but doesn't otherwise change much.

There are a few other things to consider. First, as of this writing, the Nationals don't seem to be interested in hosting in 2015 despite the slam dunk if they applied. They could be looking at the progress of development in their new neighborhood and calculating that it wouldn't be done in time for such an event. Frankly, given what I saw there, that would be a very conservative estimate. If I had to guess, I'd say the neighborhood will be packed to capacity with hotels and condos by that point. It's already stacked pretty high.

Currently the Reds and Marlins are going for 2015, with the Reds favored since they haven't yet hosted in their new ballpark. It may be necessary to swap Washington and Cincinnati in the above list.

Setting aside Wrigley, Tampa Bay and Oakland remain the two clubs still needing ballpark replacements, and it's not clear at all that they will get those any time in the near future. And, unlike Toronto, it's a little hard to imagine the game being played in either the creaky Coliseum or under the Tampa catwalks.

Toronto comes due in 2016 and will have a lock if they do anything to upgrade Rogers Centre. The Dodgers have already been open about plans to spiff up Dodger Stadium, making 2017 theirs for the taking.

The Wrigley problem doesn't really come due until 2021 (they last hosted in 1990), the possible exception being if they decide to move or tear down and rebuild. That could lead to a sentimental pick, a la Yankee Stadium, in which the old park gets one last shot before going offline. Frankly, I don't see it happening unless they do something substantial to make things better there, both for fans and players. The politics will probably drive this one. (And you may have heard that Cubs ownership did themselves no favors by making a substantial donation to the Republican presidential nominee at exactly the moment they hit up the hard-left Democratic mayor of Chicago for some funds. Political retribution knows no greater home than Chicago.)

Beyond that, 2022 will be the 30th anniversary of Camden Yards, so it makes sense. The remainder of the line up is based mostly on length of time since last hosting. Should there be another round of ballpark replacements (which, though unlikely, is hard to predict), everything could change again.

Vibe

There certainly was a weird vibe at the press conference on Wednesday, with the guys standing behind the current speaker often bowing their heads as if they were discussing a death in the family. It could be that the whole Mauer-on-waivers fiasco overshadowed the joyous news a little bit. I'm sure there were a few people there who were preoccupied with that story.

In fact, despite the fact that a bunch of us fans lined up outside of gate 34 to watch the proceedings, only twice was there ever spontaneous applause from anyone about the announcement. It was mostly a polite smattering as each speaker was announced. Far from a pep rally, this was a business transaction, plain and simple.

And so will be getting tickets to the game. The Strib published a skimpy primer on what to expect, but it comes down to this: Either go back in time and become a full STH a few years ago, or start saving your pennies and buying rabbit's feet. There's no denying that most of us will be enjoying this event the same way we watch all the other All-Star games: on TV.

But this is definitely the big feel-good moment of the Twins' 2012 season, and there were some stars and other familiar faces on hand. It's definitely very cool to see the ribbon boards in the stadium lit up with the good news.

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From left: Rod Carew, Tim Laudner, Twins historian Clyde Doeppner (behind), and Bert Blyleven 

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Greetings from the very damp Kauffman Stadium! The rain killed our chances of getting in early to watch bp but we at least get 2 today.

Posted on September 1, 2012 at 4:13 PM by jared Highlight this comment 1

Toronto? No. Absolutely not. They had it in 1991 and that was enough. Place is the Metrodome multiplied by about 500. Its ugly, damp, cavernous and carpeted. No way in bloody hell is it going to Toronto. It wont matter what the hell they do to spruce the damn place up...wont happen.

They would have the ASG at Ameritrade Field in bloody Omaha before returning to Toronto.

Posted on September 1, 2012 at 4:20 PM by luke Highlight this comment 2

2013 renewal pack has arrived. For the first time in 6 years, I cannot tell you how dreaded it felt to open.

Posted on September 1, 2012 at 4:56 PM by tk Highlight this comment 3

Luke-I have never been to Rogers Center in person for a game but the stadium has the most ambitious and best retractable roof of any stadium built anywhere in the world up to this date in time. The 3 paneled roof structure goes 672 feet from one side of the stadium to the other and slides 100 percent off of the seating bowl. Very soon the stadium is also likely to get an irrigation system and natural grass. I don't see any reason why Toronto could not wind up with game if they wanted to.

Posted on September 1, 2012 at 9:09 PM by Tom D. Highlight this comment 4

Well...ambitious or not, its still ugly in my opinion. And besides...its a multipurpose stadium, its cavernous. Its like a Canadian Miller Park. The one cool thing about that place was the hotel in CF and all the Mother Canuckers having sex with the curtains open while the Jays played ball. Then the stadium authority put the Hiroshima on that...

MLB has gone past the days of the cookie cutter stadium...I dont see an ASG going back to Toronto. Same reason MLB wouldnt have another ASG at Mount Davis Coliseum in Oakland. I have a feeling MLB will eventually do to their ASG what the NFL has done with the Super Bowl and the NBA with its ASG...they will select the elite of the elite cities with the best venues...and create a small rotation.

Take a look at the NBA ASG's of late and the frequency with which they return to cities like Orlando, Phoenix, LA and Houston. It is stunning. The days of a wide ASG rotation in MLB will soon be a thing of the past IMO.

Posted on September 1, 2012 at 10:37 PM by luke Highlight this comment 5

It's worth considering whether MLB might switch strategies, but there would be hell to pay if they did.

As I hinted above, I've never really believed that Selig had to "beg" anybody to take it, especially given the documented dollars it brings to the host city (a number which has been growing steadily with each passing season).

But if they did change strategies, it would be pretty hard to eliminate Toronto. For one thing, it's the only team in Canada, and that's a pretty big market to shun. For another, it's retractable, meaning there's no weather issue. If MLB ever decided to eliminate some parks/markets from consideration, they would never be able to justify eliminating a retractable-roof stadium. That becomes even less likely if they switch to grass.

Finally, and here's the real point, the stadium is only one piece of the calculation. The market, league, interval since last hosting, and fan base are also taken into account. It's a very different calculation from the other sports.

Posted on September 1, 2012 at 11:24 PM by Rick 6

Toronto is a terrific city, but I cannot imagine MLB having an AllStar game there without SIGNIFICANT renovation at Rogers and/or no other team wanting to host.

I do believe Selig when he said it was hard to get hosts, but I suspect that it helped when the ASG went from being a game to being a five or six day event. If you aren't local to the venue, it's hard to justify coming in for one day - far easier to come in for a few days or a week - and that is a far more significant economic impact for the host city.

tk - why did you dread opening the renewal packet? You know the price of the tickets, you know the team will be at or near the bottom of the AL next year ad you know the Twins want their STHs to pay for their 2013 tickets even before this dismal season is over. (one of the earliest due dates in MLB. Not sure why - the argument the last few years was high ST demand, but I'd be surprised to learn there are any significant numbers in the On Deck program any more. I'm losing partners who tell me they no longer want to pay MLB prices to see AAA ball.))

Posted on September 2, 2012 at 12:51 AM by JFH (aka Jfh) Highlight this comment 7

Rogers Center actually made a top 25 list of most beautiful stadiums at night: Stadiums at night: 25 beautiful cathedrals of sport

Posted on September 2, 2012 at 02:09 AM by Dave Highlight this comment 8

The list of Top 25 was pretty impressive. It pains me though that the North American continent boasts only 9 of those 25 stadiums. I almost lost my coffee this morning when I saw Donbass Stadium in the Ukraine...at a glance it looked like Dumbass. I just thought it was funny.

And sure Rogers Centre looks pretty at night when U2 is playing there, as shown in the picture, but I still see a cavernous stadium moonlighting as a ballpark. And when put that way The Trop in Tampa has a better chance of scoring an ASG and we all know how ugly THAT place is.

Posted on September 2, 2012 at 08:07 AM by luke Highlight this comment 9

All star game = zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!! Who even watches anymore??

Posted on September 2, 2012 at 09:18 AM by twinkfan Highlight this comment 10

The top 25 list was indeed impressive.

But I'm not planning to watch the ASG in 2014 from a helicopter and I don't think Bud is going to say "Ima gonna give the game to Toronto 'cause their ballpark is so purdy all lit up at night."

Posted on September 2, 2012 at 9:09 PM by JFH (aka Jfh) Highlight this comment 11

Just got back from games at Wrigley and Soldier Fields. Still a fun atmosphere at Wrigley (largely outside Wrigley) but strange to see empty seats for a Friday vs SF Giants. One more day, and could have seen Twins at Comiskey.

Posted on September 3, 2012 at 10:51 AM by robin Highlight this comment 12

People who read this blog regularly have heard me b**** - I mean complain --- about this before. One for nine tonight with RISP and a 4-2 loss as a result. And some of those RISP's were on 3d with less than two out.

Posted on September 3, 2012 at 9:32 PM by terry Highlight this comment 13

I've forgotten what clutch hitting looks like.

Posted on September 3, 2012 at 9:37 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 14

Linked are photos taken at the Rangers-Twins game at the Met on Saturday July 5, 1980. It was shown as a backup game on NBC's Saturday Game of the Week. There are some nice shots for those feeling nostalgic.

Posted on September 3, 2012 at 10:05 PM by Jorge Highlight this comment 15

Great photos, Jorge. Good color photos of the Met don't come around every day. Totally takes me back.

Posted on September 3, 2012 at 11:45 PM by Rick 16

Nice flagpole!

Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:17 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 17

Love that on-field remote equipment.

Posted on September 4, 2012 at 05:40 AM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 18

Nice shot Jorge. Yep those were the days altight. Field looks in better shape than TF even though you can see the soccer lines in it! Like the grass pattern also! Fire the worthless and weak Larry Divito now and bring in George Toma! Used to buy the $2.00 ticket and sit in the wooden bleachers along 3rd base line. Was sitting behind homeplate by the 2nd inning!Not much security back then. Soon TF will have crowds like this!

Posted on September 4, 2012 at 09:21 AM by twinkfan Highlight this comment 19

I am sure you guys know this but a couple of years ago I was coaching my daughter in slow pitch over at Valley View Complex in Bloomington and I went to see those exact Met Stadium foul poles which got transplanted to one of the big baseball fields over there. They were cut in half,though and not nearly as tall.

Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM by Tom D. Highlight this comment 20

Tom,

That's news to me. Where is that field? (I'll go get some pix.)

Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:39 AM by Rick 21

Before depositing the remains of Met Stadium in a landfill in Eagan the poles somehow ended up there, although I do not know the story. I am bad with directions but the remains of at least one of the distinctive triangular shaped foul poles are located on the 2 foul lines at the Valley View baseball/softball athletic complex in Bloomington. The complex is quite huge but the field that has the poles is a big baseball field located on the south south east side of the complex. They are still yellow and the second you see them you recognize they are from the old Met.

Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:00 PM by Tom D. Highlight this comment 22

Rick- I just found the website for the Valley View Complex,and the adress is 9000 Portland Ave. So. Bloomington MN. The complex is 34 acres, but the field with the poles is called Field #1, also known as Red Haddox Field. There are videos on the website and if you view the 34 second video showing Field #1 they show the right field foul pole clearly and that's definately the field I was talking about.

Posted on September 4, 2012 at 12:41 PM by Tom D. Highlight this comment 23

George Toma is in his eighties now; I doubt he'd take the (full season) job

Posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:51 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 24

I know we all know the Twins would/are pushing this get Twins season tickets for your chance to guarantee your chance for All Star Game tickets....

However, if one does not ask the right question, one could be disappointed.

When I called my rep today to speak about what my options were as a STH at getting tickets, he said they are trying their hardest to get all STH the opportunity to purchase. He said, however, with their LARGE STH base, it is only possible to do so much, compared to other clubs that do not have THAT issue (e.g. asked about how it is not the same process for the Mets, as there process must also be regulated by MLB).

The long and short, as a full season plan with 2 tickets, and a 40-game plan with 2 tickets, my option for a chance to get tickets would only bumped to full season plan (worse seats as it bumps to the highest level) and those would be guaranteed. So for having the 81-game, and 40-game, I will only be able to purchase 2 strips total.

He said if I only had a 40-game plan, it would not be guaranteed, but they would try their hardest.....

Needless to say, I told him that I also had to answer to two groups of 4 each and that things may not work out for us to continue. He ended by recommending to keep the full season if any, as that would be the guaranteed.

In all honesty, I am just looking to save the money now and try my luck on the secondary market (sick of getting stuck with unused tickets), as there is still no guarantee I would draw my name in the draft.

I am just going to recommend to my group to just try their luck at their own 20-game package, like the 100s that will be adding this year.

Regardless, the Twins do not have to do anything to please committed ticket holders for the next 2 years, as so many of us like to sit on our hands. I'm not sure I will this time.

Posted on September 4, 2012 at 5:10 PM by tk Highlight this comment 25

Re: those great Met photos...

#24: Bring back the TC stirrups!
#7: Is that luke and joni au naturale?

Posted on September 4, 2012 at 7:41 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 26

tk, check out some of the answers DSP (@TwinsPrez) had on Twitter tonight. He does a good job of answering some ASG questions.

For the rest... Shameless plug, I just posted the following on Craigslist and wonder if any of you are interested. Clicky for the link. Mention that you're a BPMer and we can maybe work out a different deal.

------------------------------------------
I am looking to trade my Twins vs White Sox on Saturday 9/15 @ noon game tickets. I will now be out of town.

They are in the Legends Club, Sec B, Row 4, seats 17-18. These are amazing seats!

I am looking to trade for some lower level tickets.
---equal swap for Diamond Box or Home Plate Box seats. (lower half of section)
---I am willing to pay $20 cash plus my tix for Dugout Box seats.

I am able to attend the following games:
vs CLE Sept 7, 9-10
vs NYY Sept 25-26
vs DET Sept 28-29

Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:05 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 27

Thanks Mike, yeah, I've seen those tweets nothing more than a mix of tweeting happy fans and answering some ASG questions. I thought I would just post my experience in talking with my rep today. I may have to Tweet at him, but we will see....then all my partners will see I am not happy and I'm the peace maker.

Posted on September 4, 2012 at 10:47 PM by tk Highlight this comment 28

tk - not sure if your rep mentioned this, but it's even more difficult for partial plan holders, as those with 7 years will get top priority.

I suspect many partial plan holders, ESPECIALLY those joining this year and next, will be very disappointed in what ability they have to buy ASG strips.

If you aren't a full-season plan holder, the math just doesn't work in your favor.

Posted on September 5, 2012 at 05:10 AM by JFH (aka Jfh) Highlight this comment 29

One of @TwinsPrez' tweets last night was another in an endless string of as-yet unfulfilled promises to do something about the deforestation in center field:

"Looking at it for '13 RT@RCWjaguarsBBguy: @TwinsPrez why can some ballparks have trees in CF? Need to improve that area at Target Field. "

We will believe it when we see it.

Posted on September 5, 2012 at 09:06 AM by ClarkAddison Highlight this comment 30

"but they would try their hardest....."

Battle their tails off?

Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:07 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 31

An 80 year old Toma would be a huge improvement overy Larry boy! Fire him now and get a half ass grass pattern going there! Field in horrific shape once again! Not impressed with the colorado sesamia grazz! Might be time for some Minnesota sod!

Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:12 AM by twinkfan Highlight this comment 32

Grass, trees, quality baseball ----. The Twins can't be bothered with any of those things, they have an ASG to sell!

Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:16 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 33

Would somebody kindly tell me wtf is wrong with the grass?

As far as I can see, it's exactly the way the team wants it -- super short and turf-like. DiVito is widely acknowledged as one of the best in the business. He's probably the only reason the whole yard isn't dead.

(And be aware that if you say the cut pattern is bad, I may have to come through the wires and smack you -- or exhort your family, friends and neighbors to do it on behalf of BPMers everywhere.)

Posted on September 5, 2012 at 10:24 AM by Rick 34

Drink a bit more of your rum twinkfan. The cut patterns will change before your very eyes. Repeat until you get the desired pattern.

Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:36 AM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 35

Rick plain and simple the grass sucks! Patches that don't match everywhere! Toma could make it look good again! He is no match for clueless Devito. The team may suck on the field but at least we should have the yard looking sharp. Maybe the leauge will step in now that the all star game (whooopie) is coming in a couple of years!

Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:40 AM by twinkfan Highlight this comment 36

Steve yes drinking makes watching these bums a little easier! Although I must say I'm 3-0 at TF this year after going 15-20 the first 2 years!

Posted on September 5, 2012 at 11:42 AM by twinkfan Highlight this comment 37

It's too bad Howard Cosell is no longer with us. We need his style of hard-hitting, in-your-face, tell-it-like-it-is journalism to expose this whole grass cut pattern scandal at Target Field.

Posted on September 5, 2012 at 1:31 PM by terry Highlight this comment 38

"DiVito is widely acknowledged as one of the best in the business" By who? The Twins? Clearly not the Nationa;s if they let him go. Yes the team wants the grass short, which is stupid, the team is no longer based off speed. Plus didn't we want to get away from a field like the metrodome?

That being said, many stadiums in the league keep the grass this short or close to it, and it looks 10x better. Hell football fields, are shorter, get heavier use in one day than a baseball field gets all season, and it takes a few weeks for those to look bad.

They should just admit it looks like shit and figure out how to correct it..

One thing I did notice is that their "sod farm" has no shade, which may explain the lighter color of the grass compared to the ballpark grass. Inside the stadium, the grass gets shade until the sun gets to a certain point over the parking garage/grandstand, then again when it goes behind the 3rd base seats. The sod farm has no such shade, which if the grass is not grown in the same conditions it will look different.

Posted on September 5, 2012 at 1:39 PM by Duffman Highlight this comment 39

Well said Duffman! I will drink to that!

Posted on September 5, 2012 at 2:17 PM by twinkfan Highlight this comment 40

It's not even a comparison...just look at Busch Stadium, US Cellular Field, Kauffman Stadium, Comerica Park, PNC Park, and Nationals Park to name a few.

The Target Field grass does not even compare to those other parks.

They have been in the ballpark now almost 3 full seasons and to only have one primary cut? Sure, they had the checkerboard design for the Opening Series in April 2010 and April 2011 but its been the current pattern for the remaining games over the last 3 years. Part of keeping the grass looking nice is changing up the patterns.

I am not criticizing Divito and his crew, but how much credit can be attributed to all of the new technology such as the heating systems and drainage systems. All of our lawns would be green in April if we were able to cover them and heat them during winter like they do with Target Field.

And maybe the Twins players should start worrying more about winning games rather than trees in the batter's eye or how different grass patterns play.

Posted on September 5, 2012 at 4:12 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 41

Maybe their fans should as well.

Posted on September 5, 2012 at 5:05 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 42

Mike, why not criticize DiVito? TF turf isnt that great looking, I will agree.
i am very concerned for 2014...do we think he can pull off a star cut for the ASG? Its not looking good.

Posted on September 5, 2012 at 5:45 PM by luke Highlight this comment 43

LOL! Touche' Winona Mike.

Posted on September 5, 2012 at 5:58 PM by terry Highlight this comment 44

Where do I look to see how far off I was in the pre-season stat predictions? Is there a prize for the biggest Rube?

Posted on September 5, 2012 at 6:03 PM by tk Highlight this comment 45

Maybe their fans should as well.

A-fricking-men.

Posted on September 5, 2012 at 7:27 PM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 46

Fire DiVito now! Before all the grass turns to dust! Worse looking grass field in baseball. Toronto's turf looks better than our crap!

Posted on September 6, 2012 at 08:41 AM by twinkfan Highlight this comment 47

Ticket question: Has any 20 game STH here received his/her renewal package yet?

Posted on September 6, 2012 at 09:23 AM by BR Highlight this comment 48

BR,

I received mine on Tuesday.

Posted on September 6, 2012 at 09:26 AM by FD Highlight this comment 49

"BR,

I received mine on Tuesday."

Me too.

Posted on September 6, 2012 at 09:49 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 50

I am surprised no one has blamed Colorado for giving us inferior sod.

This site is beginning to sound like a sewing circle.

Posted on September 6, 2012 at 1:43 PM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 51

Go Granny, Go Granny, Go Granny, Go

Posted on September 6, 2012 at 11:15 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 52

There are plenty of other stadiums that have sod from the same Colorado farm.

The problem isn't where the sod is from.

Posted on September 6, 2012 at 11:37 PM by JFH (aka Jfh) Highlight this comment 53

Maybe Larry forgot to turn the heaters off under the field? Meanwhile our boys need to go 6-19 to get to the magical 100!

Posted on September 7, 2012 at 08:29 AM by twinkfan Highlight this comment 54

True jfh

Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:24 PM by luke Highlight this comment 55

Is there still a ticket section? was looking to see if anyone was interested in some roof deck tickets.

Posted on September 7, 2012 at 12:58 PM by Thrillhouse Highlight this comment 56

With the tribe and royals in town the next 7 games would think the Mon-Thur games won't hit 30,000. Beer vendors will be hurting. The drive to 100!

Posted on September 7, 2012 at 2:54 PM by twinkfan Highlight this comment 57

Hey but the Queens open up this Sunday. Might be the only game they are favored to win all year. I will go with 4-12 season!11 straight NFC North losses! Sister Christian in for a looooooooong year.

Posted on September 7, 2012 at 2:57 PM by twinkfan Highlight this comment 58

twinkfan, you must not listen to KFAN. It's "Hunt for 100." haha

Tonight is going to feel like an October game. I'm going to pretend it's a playoff game. Oh wait, that means it's definitely gonna be a loss.

Posted on September 7, 2012 at 4:30 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 59

Construction update on the new Siebert Field at U of M. (link)

Posted on September 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM by fiesta Highlight this comment 60

If anyone is looking to share Legends Club seats for 2013, I have at least 20 games available in section G, row 5 at STH cost.

Posted on September 7, 2012 at 10:02 PM by JFH (aka Jfh) Highlight this comment 61

Star Tribune reporting the 'Queens are bidding to host the Super Bowl in 2018, 2019 or 2020. Take that one at face value. I wont say it, oh yes I will: TOLD YOU SO.

Posted on September 7, 2012 at 10:05 PM by luke Highlight this comment 62

STH holder with seats in 109 Row 11 looking for 1 more partner for 15 games at STH cost...1st time in 8 years I had a partner bail...I've been fortunate..Click the link to email me...

Posted on September 7, 2012 at 10:13 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 63

The Vikes want to host a Super Bowl in their new stadium? You really went out on a limb with that prediction, Luke.

Posted on September 8, 2012 at 03:49 AM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 64

Remember Mike, you all were bitching about my sources and stuff? Its not who YOU know, its who I know. That makes all the difference...lol.
on this very site I predicted a 2018 Super Bowl. Look back. After we opened the HHH Poopcan, we had to wait TEN years to get a SB in our "new stadium". By 1992, the HHHPC was old-hat.
So, potentially as little of a wait as two years to get a SB for USBS, i would say thats pretty good. And if we select HKS as our architect, and they DO in fact build an LOS replica here (remember LOS did a hell of a job hosting SB XLVI) like some conceptual drawings have postulated, then I think we are sitting pretty.
and yes, i also have inside knowledge on the naming rights, and no, his name is not Charley Walters.

Posted on September 8, 2012 at 07:49 AM by luke Highlight this comment 65

I try to stay away from the Luke bashing or generally commincating with him, but is Luke Sid Hartman?

Posted on September 8, 2012 at 09:00 AM by Duffman Highlight this comment 66

Also, anyone else find it sad they are putting turf in an outdoor baseball field? Then again I was sad when they put in turf at TCF Bank Stadium, which I will be at today enjoying a beer, about time.

Posted on September 8, 2012 at 09:04 AM by Duffman Highlight this comment 67

Duff, I would consider it the compliment of all to be thought of as Sid Hartman. Sadly, I am not Sid.
Second, with artificial turf at TCFBS and the new Siebert, as sad as it is, at least the University doesnt have to spend money on grounds crews. Not sure how much DiVito and his crew gets paid...but maintenance alone must cost a bundle, and with the turf, its money the U doesnt have to spend.
however, I believe I read that a brew at TCFBS costs $7.25...so they could have used that money...lol

Posted on September 8, 2012 at 1:39 PM by luke Highlight this comment 68

If anyone is looking for skyline view, I have 2 seats for 20 games available in a full season package. Section 325, Row 1, aisle. The cost is the STH price. email me by clicking my name above to discuss.

Posted on September 8, 2012 at 1:49 PM by TK Highlight this comment 69

Wow lots of STH groups looking for additions. I was just able to up my share in my group. Had a few guys decline in shares.

I think it's sad to have turf outdoor at Siebert. Is it because the college baseball season starts early and they are planning to make it happen without the Dome?

Posted on September 8, 2012 at 2:03 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 70

Game was fun, getting beers was a pain, had to go to the open end and buy them. Why they are not at every stand I don't know. Also they stopped serving at halftime, which doesn't make sense, why not the end of the 3rd quarter.

Did see Sid on his way in, 3 minutes before game time.

As for the turf at Siebert field, did they fire their grounds crew? And if they had one could they have not done both Siebert and TCF?

Posted on September 8, 2012 at 2:24 PM by Duffman Highlight this comment 71

I suppose they'll still need a crew to rake the rubber pellets from time to time.

Congratulations, Luke; I gotta admit you nailed it with that prediction. None of us even suspected that, even though the possibility had been mentioned in all the lobbying for a new stadium, and the League itself mentioned the possibility of the Vikes hosting a Super Bowl once the new stadium was opened, the news that the Vikes would be pushing for the hosting gig in the near future caught all of us, except you, flat-footed. Even though the previous two games have been played in new stadiums, and the League has suggested to the 49ers that they might also get a game once their new stadium is completed, you were the only one who saw it coming.

How are you at picking stocks?

Posted on September 8, 2012 at 3:42 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 72

Mike, what can luke say? he's got some really good sources.

Posted on September 8, 2012 at 4:14 PM by Jared Highlight this comment 73

Lol Mike...it wasnt so much that the Queens WOULD get a SB after USBS opens up, it was WHEN. Remember, we waited TEN years to get a SB in our former new stadium.
The NFL is a pussy operation, they have been picky in past years. Holy Jesus, how long has Indy had an indoor stadium, and just THIS SEASON did they get to host a SB.

Or hell, how about St Louis? When the hell is their "new stadium" gonna host a SB? God, that place is almost 20 years old.

Of course, who wants to come to this damn city in the dead of winter anyway? Thats what makes it all the more interesting that the Queens ARE bidding for 2018. And that the NFL is giving us serious consideration.

I TOLD all of you in posts back that 2018 would be the year, not really knowing the Queens would actually BID for that year.

Btw Jared, I have some good stock picks for you, but I would rather keep them to myself rather than share my dividend checks with ingreats.

Posted on September 8, 2012 at 6:01 PM by luke Highlight this comment 74

I'm in the Legends Club right now and I have to say that the grass looks great.

If you want to see some rough-looking grass, fire up Google Earth (or Google Maps) and take a look at the satellite image of Wrigley.

Do you suppose we could get Luke to give us odds on the sun rising tomorrow morning? (Only if he has a source, of course.)

Posted on September 8, 2012 at 9:15 PM by Rick 75

Arent you gonna be screwed if tomorrow morning is overcast? I would laugh my ass off.
If it is overcast tomorrow morning Rick, you owe me a six pack and LC tickets...lol

Posted on September 8, 2012 at 9:59 PM by luke Highlight this comment 76

...because obviously the sun doesn't rise on cloudy days. (You might want to check with your sources again on that one.)

Posted on September 8, 2012 at 10:37 PM by Rick 77

Please....just stop already.

Posted on September 8, 2012 at 10:53 PM by antifire Highlight this comment 78

Luke, Indy didn't get a Super Bowl until they built the new building. The RCA Dome was on par with the Metrodome; it lacked the amenities the NFL desires in a SB venue. Back when the League granted a SB to the Metrodome, the game wasn't used as leverage like it is today, and stadium standards weren't as selective as they are today. RCA and the Metrodome were similar in capacity, which is far below the League's standard of 70,000 or more. And St. Louis won't see a SB in the Edward Jones Dome while the Rams are trying to get out of there.
Comparing 1992 with how the games are doled out today is like comparing apples to oranges.

Posted on September 8, 2012 at 10:54 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 79

You're right, antifire. It's shooting fish in a barrel, and I hereby renounce it.

Posted on September 8, 2012 at 11:50 PM by Rick 80

So it's already US Bank Stadium even before the architect has been announced and began drawing up any actual plans?

Posted on September 8, 2012 at 11:51 PM by grizzly adams Highlight this comment 81

I almost hate to raise this thread again, but I just went to check on Stubhub for Gopher football tickets for next Saturday, and two $13 tickets wind up costing $47.95 when you add in fees and mandatory Fedex shipping.

Of that total, the seller gets $22.10 and the giganto companies get $25.85. That's f-ing highway robbery, and I won't pay it.

I'd still like to take the boys to a game. Anybody unloading cheap seats for any of the remaining games? (I actually need three or four.)

Posted on September 9, 2012 at 12:12 AM by Rick 82

Actually, grizzly, though it's not a foregone conclusion, there are very strong reasons to suspect it will happen.

In the aftermath of the last legislative session, word from within the political circles emerged that the project was only given its final legislative push because a certain CEO from a certain big bank gave his blessing to it -- personally, and against the wishes of certain other CEOs who had other ideas and priorities.

Additionally, there is a bit of a backlash forming out there against a certain other corporation which owns multiple local naming rights and may have outbid a certain other large corporation the last time a facility needed to be named.

In many ways, the downtown business community resembles an elementary school playground.

Posted on September 9, 2012 at 12:21 AM by Rick 83

Winona, I concur in spades, I was just making a point. But, why not Seattles Kingdome then? Matter of fact, Seattle was in line to host SB XXVI in 1992. Kingdome was larger than the Dome.

In light of your comment, would it however be considered a conflict of interest to have two competitor banks solidifying their names to football stadiums in the same general location?

Posted on September 9, 2012 at 07:52 AM by luke Highlight this comment 84

My guess still goes to MOA buying the naming rights.

Posted on September 9, 2012 at 10:43 AM by Dave Highlight this comment 85

You know Davs, I wondered if they might. But, i have no idea how much MOA pays to have its name on the Winona Poop Green carpet in the place. Remember, its still the Metrodome.
I cannot imagine MOA pays more than $1 million a year for it. Especially for a stadium whose days are finitely numbered.
with that said, I dont believe $1 million a year is going to cut it in the new place. I believe MetLife pays about $10 mil/yearand it took the Jets/Giants two years to find someone to pay that price.
conversly, Jerry Jones is STILL looking for a buku dollar title sponsor for his stadium, and of course who wants their name attatched to the Cowboys organization?
i would love to see MOA be a title sponsor for the new place, keep it local, but I think they will be relegated to a gate or a plaza for a company who can offer the bug bucks. I always thought 3M would be a nice title sponsor.

Posted on September 9, 2012 at 11:46 AM by luke Highlight this comment 86

Luke, seriously??? Have it named MOA and keep it local?? Just when I thought you could go a day without an idiotic response you make a statement like that. The Triple Five Group owns/operates the MOA and is a Canadian Company, while USB is located in Minneapolis.

Posted on September 9, 2012 at 1:14 PM by tk Highlight this comment 87

Tk- the mall itself is local, nutjob. Who gives a shit about about the proprieter of the place? Jesus, malls change proprieters like most of us change our socks. Look at what happened with the former Crookdale. They changed owners ALOT.

Good God, why dont we just name it after another deadbeat politician like Martin Olav Sabo or Barack Obama, and be done with it?

Man alive, some people...lol

Posted on September 9, 2012 at 2:26 PM by luke Highlight this comment 88

I've been channel-flipping between the Twins and Vikings. The brightness of the sunshine on Target Field presented quite a contrast to the artificial light of that building on the other end of downtown. Of course Luke has made it clear he doesn't like enlightenment of any kind.

Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:31 PM by terry Highlight this comment 89

Lol terry. Enlightenment is my middle name. If it wasnt, I wouldnt be a Nihilist, now would I?

I cant wait to be the one to light that ignition switch that detonates the Dome to make way for what apparently has now become an As-Yet-Named Stadium :).

Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:09 PM by luke Highlight this comment 90

Interesting, guess none of that info got on my radar. I suppose the way people are on the school playground is often they way they are for life, some things never really change.

Posted on September 9, 2012 at 8:08 PM by grizzly adams Highlight this comment 91

Even though I've lived here all my life, I have no idea what "Winona poop green" is. Care to elaborate, Mr. Enlightenment?

P.S. I'm not the person who brought up naming rights. I haven't even mentioned it. You've obviously got me confused with someone else. But then, confusion seems to be your stock in trade.

Posted on September 9, 2012 at 10:47 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 92

Lovely day at the ballpark yesterday. Game started pretty slow, Vasquez was missing the strike zone 60% of the time, but the bats started to get hot and Justin puts two in the seats including the walk-off. It just doesn't get much better than that!

And apparently there was some sort of event going on the other side of downtown, but I didn't pay much attention to that one...

Posted on September 10, 2012 at 08:22 AM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 93

Rick,

If you want cheap Gopher tix for this week, watch mygophersports.com later this week. Last Friday they were offering $10 tickets until 5 pm. With another non-conference opponent on deck for Saturday they may do it again.

Posted on September 10, 2012 at 08:22 AM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 94

Winona Poop Green was a play on words. The colour is Baby Poop Green, i just changed "baby" lol

Posted on September 10, 2012 at 12:05 PM by luke Highlight this comment 95

A new GigaPan picture is available from Saturday night (TK Day). Click to link and zoom in.

Noticed an interesting tidbit - the scoreboard says it's top of the 2nd with Indians batting, but if you look at home plate, Florimon is up. So this seems to be a single camera that moves across the whole stadium snapping one pic at a time, and takes at least a half inning to do it.

So that means there are probably people in the picture more than once, if they are moving around and in the right place at the right time. If you knew the camera's movements you could be in it many times, sort of a twist on Where's Waldo.

Posted on September 10, 2012 at 1:48 PM by ClarkAddison Highlight this comment 96

Can you believe it? I spent that half inning inside the Third Base Lounge, gutting my way through a juicy but very challenging Murray's steak sandwich. I completely missed the gigapan shoot...

The bun was very soft and yummy, but the cheese was unmelted and flavorless, the meat was completely dripping (I used at least eight napkins), and I had to work around some pretty big pieces of gristle.

Maybe the most damning thing was that, after trying a few bites, I realized that it was going to need steak sauce in order to be edible. If the steak is flavorful enough, using steak sauce is a crime. Here it was an act of mercy that allowed me to (sort of) enjoy the experience.

Looking back, I'd rather have the $11.50 in my pocket and my face in the gigapan.

Posted on September 10, 2012 at 2:08 PM by Rick 97

ClarkAddison - my son & I spent some time about a month ago looking through some of those GigaPan shots. On most of them if you zoom in on the players you will see floating heads, legs with no body, etc. Sometimes there will be an infield full of Twins defenders as well as an opposing player also ready to field his position. Lots of stuff to make a 9 year old (and his dad) laugh.

Posted on September 10, 2012 at 2:26 PM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 98

It must have taken more than a whole inning to shoot because I just checked the spot where I was sitting for the 3rd (section 128 in the LF bleachers), and there I am!

Posted on September 10, 2012 at 2:34 PM by Rick 99

Rick you could have had 10 delicious Hoilday dogs or brats instead of that overprised grislte filled Murrays steak sandwhich. Ouch!

Posted on September 10, 2012 at 3:20 PM by twinkfan Highlight this comment 100

" --- and I had to work around some pretty big pieces of gristle --- "

That's not a very large piece of "steak" in the first place, is it?

Posted on September 10, 2012 at 4:00 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 101

That GigaPan link was pretty cool, thanks ClarkAddison!

I had the most fun checking to see who was sitting in the ADA sections. Wonder why they even bothered putting automatic doors in the 1st/3rd base lounges?

Posted on September 10, 2012 at 6:04 PM by Dave Highlight this comment 102

Actually, I can answer that. The way to the accessible seating down the foul lines next to the field is by taking the elevator down to the service level then going through the First/Third Base lounges.

It's a very large area -- super prime seats, albeit ones where having a glove to protect yourself is highly recommended.

Posted on September 10, 2012 at 7:29 PM by Rick 103

Ben,

It was a sizable piece of beef, actually two pieces stacked on top of each other, but not exactly the finest cut.

twinkfan,

It was all in the name of research...

Posted on September 10, 2012 at 7:33 PM by Rick 104

Sometimes research is very distasteful.

Posted on September 10, 2012 at 8:30 PM by JFH (aka Jfh) Highlight this comment 105

The Murray's s/w is very inconsistent. Sometimes the staff understand that you don't want it sitting in its own puddle of juice. Sometimes the steak is cut and cooked just right. When those things happen, it's delicious.

My kid really likes it, so we've probably bought it 6-8 times. Comes out right about half the time. Not good enough odds for me, so I'd rather he develop a taste for those Holiday brats! (Or maybe just the ribs in CF, which are a much better deal.)

Posted on September 11, 2012 at 09:19 AM by BR Highlight this comment 106

Well --- whoever put that name on that sandwich is damn lucky Marie Murray is no longer available.

Posted on September 11, 2012 at 09:48 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 107

Rick~
You should have no trouble going to the Gophers game and getting 3 from one of the scalpers for the same/better price then you are seeing online (especially with no fees included).

Posted on September 11, 2012 at 1:57 PM by GoAUpher Highlight this comment 108

Just don't try buying tickets before the game from the box office, the lins were 100 people long on Saturday. Also half way through the first quarter, scalpers were still asking face value for tickets.

Posted on September 11, 2012 at 2:26 PM by Duffman Highlight this comment 109

You can talk the scalpers down. Their inventory is way higher than the demand right now.

Posted on September 11, 2012 at 3:29 PM by GoAUpher Highlight this comment 110

I have never been to TCF Bank Stadium so my friend and I are planning on going for the first time on October 13, which is homecoming.

We are hoping to get some tickets off the street before the game. Are there a lot of scalpers around TCF Bank Stadium? If so, where are they located? Will homecoming affect prices much?

It has taken me four seasons to get to TCF Bank Stadium for the first time but I am looking forward to it!

Posted on September 11, 2012 at 4:13 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 111

I think you can go online and the tickets are $10 for the rodent football game vs powerhouse Western Michigan. Something under FB10 or something. Looks like the boyz won't hit 100 losses this year. Magic #4 with 21 games left.

Posted on September 11, 2012 at 4:26 PM by twinkfan Highlight this comment 112

Mike~
You should have no trouble finding scalpers in the area near the open end of TCF. They are all over Oak Street, University, and 4th before games.

Posted on September 11, 2012 at 4:53 PM by GoAUpher Highlight this comment 113

Speaking of the field - took my 9 year old daughter to TF tonight. She asked what the 2 bumps behind the pitchers mound were. I couldn't
answer her. There were 2 spots in the grass behind the mound and were rectangle shaped.

Posted on September 11, 2012 at 11:03 PM by gogotwins Highlight this comment 114

Hose connection covers.

Posted on September 11, 2012 at 11:57 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 115

There used to be no grass on them. I don't know how you'd grow grass on a steel plate unless they have patches of Field Turf covering them. Anyone have the answer?

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 05:30 AM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 116

As WE ALL suspected, Walters reported yesterday that the Vikes might use some features found at LOS in Indianapolis. He mentioned that Vikes brass like their roof, but that they want a fully sliding "window" which LOS does not have.

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 06:11 AM by luke Highlight this comment 117

Tix to the game tonight as low as 78 CENTS!

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 09:20 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 118

...plus at least $10.95 in fees...

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 09:29 AM by Rick 119

2 tix in Skyline - including fees:

Stub: $11.83
Twins: $36.50

Decisions, decisions.

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 09:57 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 120

Work some scalper for $5.00 a ticket! What are they going to do say no?

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 10:10 AM by twinkfan Highlight this comment 121

Question for everyone:

Are there any good unofficial candy/snack vendors set up outside Target Field? I always used to buy peanuts and licorice from a guy at the base of the Dome parking lot stairs, but I haven't seen him or anyone around Target Field in my visits there. But maybe I am approaching the stadium differently.

Any thoughts? I've gotten worse about buying snacks in advance, but I still hate paying ballpark prices, and plaza prices are pretty much the same, no?

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 10:19 AM by spycake Highlight this comment 122

There's a guy at the Fort Snelling light rail station who sells various snacks and bottled water on game days.

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 10:29 AM by terry Highlight this comment 123

Rick~
One other option if you're still thinking about the Gophers game. The U is selling tickets for $25 that include a hot dog and pop. Not a great deal, but figured I'd put it out there if you were still pondering your options.

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 11:52 AM by GoAUpher Highlight this comment 124

There is a Holiday gas station about 2 blocks north of the light rail station at the park. Great dogs and brats and all the crap you need to bring on in!

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 11:52 AM by twinkfan Highlight this comment 125

2013 Twins tentative schedule released. Click my, as I have it starting with April 1. Twins opening season at home against Detroit.

Twins host Interleague: Mets (April) Marlins (April) Brewers (May) Phillies (June)

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 12:17 PM by TK Highlight this comment 126

Forgot the Stros in August...

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 12:17 PM by TK Highlight this comment 127

Never mind, I remember now why I left the Astros off IL...

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 12:20 PM by TK Highlight this comment 128

The Twins got the shaft again with their 2013 schedule...

15 home games in April? Only 9 home games in July, with just one weekend series at home? I do like having a true Monday "Opening Day" at home on April 1. Could be 75 degrees or could be 35 degrees, will be interesting nonetheless. 4th of July home game against the Yankees is nice!

MLB found a way to screw up the Brewers-Twins home and home. What was once one of the most-anticipated series' of the year, is now just a mid-week home and home series in late May. I would much rather have seen them go to one 4-game Thursday-Sunday series and alternate sites each year rather than split 2-2 during mid-week. The fans are not going to travel for those games like they did when they were on weekends.

Post Labor Day, when attendance declines, the Twins are home 3 of 4 weekends in September. They can't be too happy with that.

I do like the fact they did a better job distributing the divisional games more evenly across the entire 6 months.

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 12:36 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 129

The Twins will visit Nationals Park, Turner Field and Marlins Park for the first time in 2012 if anyone is looking to check out those cities.

They did visit Atlanta in March 2011 for a pair of exhibition games but this will be their first-ever trip to Atlanta since October 1991.

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 12:40 PM by Mike (aka Mike) Highlight this comment 130

Interesting sequence for Brewers series - Mon/Tue May 27/28 AT Milwaukee, Wed/Thur 28/29 Home. Could make for a fun roadtrip - weekend @ Detroit, Mon/Tue in Milwaukee and then home to catch one or two more games.

Only 9 home games in July with 4 to start, 3 in the middle and 2 at the end (leading into another 4 to start Aug).

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 12:43 PM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 131

Ha! You beat me to the punch Mike. I agree the Milwaukee series will probably not be as heavily travelled. Even with the 1st game on Memorial Day the kiddies are still in school so "need" to be back on Tuesday. I was hoping for a weekend as I have not travelled to Miller in a few seasons.

Was also hoping for some NL opponents closer to home (Cubs, Reds, etc) but nothing there either.

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 132

Also no weekend series in Kansas City. Two are Mon-Wed and the other is Tue-Thur. Too bad.

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 133

I am still hoping to take my kids to TCFBS on Saturday. Right now, my plan is to hope for $10 tix on the web site.

The street seller route isn't ideal because it takes so much work just to get over there, park, and get to the stadium that I'll be predisposed to overpay. With the kids having trudged all that way and standing right there with puppy-dog looks of anticipation on their faces, I'll be negotiating from a point of serious weakness.

We're also hoping to see the Twins on Sunday, but I haven't found the right deal for that yet either...

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 1:43 PM by Rick 134

Mgmt can't be real happy with that schedule. Won't see anywhere near 3 mil fans. You need 2 weekend dates each month. One in July? LOL! And another back loaded Sept. Look for attendance to continue to plumet next year. Lots of 20,000 or under. Nice thing is you can buy a cheap seat and sit anywhere like the old days!

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 1:44 PM by twinkfan Highlight this comment 135

Rick if you google $10 Gopher tickets you will come up with a post from Micheal Rand from the tribune story of last friday called TFD. There was a link to the ticket site there. It just shows New Hampshire but I would check back tommorow of friday for the Western Michigan game. Not sure if its will call or if there are any fees. Good luck!

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 1:48 PM by twinkfan Highlight this comment 136

Whoa! I just checked StubHub again for Gopher tickets and there's hardly anything left. And the cheapest available for a group of three is $49 each. Must be the result of a prediction for beautiful weather.

Luckily, I haven't said anything to the boys about this yet. If you hear of any other deals (thanks, GoAUpher!), let me know. But I'm starting to think this will have to wait until next year.

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 1:58 PM by Rick 137

Rick I think you can get the $25 dog and coke deal now still. I would find it hard to believe they will draw a ton for Western Michigan. But I could be wrong. Just keep checking the web site in the next couple days. For last week they mentioned the offer $10 seats ended at 5pm friday.

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 2:03 PM by twinkfan Highlight this comment 138

Bought LC tix of SH for the Twins tonight: $12 each, plus fees, $35 total for 2. Yeah, it's midweek September to watch the crappy Royals play the crappier Twins, but that's still a good deal, imo. (FYI: I saw a pair of Champions Club seats for $110 each on SH. That's about as cheap as those get.)

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 2:31 PM by BR Highlight this comment 139

One advantage of having a last place team is you can affordably sit in the "Beverly Hills seats" instead of your usual "San Fernando Valley seats". I got great seats in the LC right behind home plate for a late September mid-week game last year. Those seats would have been cost-prohibitive for me if the Twins had been a contender.

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 2:57 PM by terry Highlight this comment 140

Pack your long johns tonight! Gonna be 35 degrees cooler than last night! Might not hit 20,000 tonight!

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 3:05 PM by twinkfan Highlight this comment 141

Anybody here bought Champions Club tickets before? What kind of deal did you get? I'm thinking I will eventually bite around $110 per ticket.

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 3:16 PM by spycake Highlight this comment 142

So what happened to all of the independent vendors from outside the Dome? All retired? Hiding? Cracked down by Twins and warehouse district business owners?

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 3:18 PM by spycake Highlight this comment 143

They have 4 off days in April as well which will help all of those pitchers get some rest from the "cold" weather. I am sure there will be one or two pitchers who get sore from the cold and will need that rest...its the Twins way afterall!! To rest and protect! Where pitchers are pulled after 100 pitches, that's assuming they can they can make it that far in the first place.

In June, they have every single Monday off so they can't use the "we need a day off" excuse...

On another note, why do season ticket holders even bother selling their tickets for under $5.00? Donate them to tickets for tots...at least you can claim the full value on your taxes as a charitable contribution and one or two lucky kids get to go to a game. It could be an experience of a lifetime for some of those kids.

I have donated 10 games to tix for tots this year because the re-sell values were simply not worth it in my mind. 2013 is not going to be any better, probably worse for re-selling.

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 3:19 PM by Mike (aka Mike) Highlight this comment 144

Conspiracy theorists would suggest that it's the TWINS who are selling those tickets for nearly nothing on Stubhub. Filling the seats does at least help sell concessions.

I'm not asserting anything here, I'm just sayin'...

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 3:37 PM by BR Highlight this comment 145

Mike, there have been times I thought of doing Tix for Tots and found out I was too late; I think you need 48 hours in advance (I haven't done it since last season). But that is plenty of time to know these weeknight September games vs KC aren't worth selling. My guess on the people who sell for 5 or less on SH is that some are regular STHs who don't know about the charity option,and can't find anyone they know who wants them, but I bet a bunch of those tickets are broker-owned, maybe from out-of-town. Not only does it add up to some revenue rather than none, with little labor expended, but if they pay taxes on their profits, this gives them documentation of losses to offset profits. I assume that's more valuable than a personal charitable contribution on Schedule C, or at least after the maximum deductible amount. I have donated a lot of tickets, and the deduction limits are getting more restrictive.

Posted on September 12, 2012 at 7:37 PM by robin Highlight this comment 146


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These stairs will go up to the centerfield pavilion.



Note the speakers hanging beneath that deck












Clyde Doeppner proudly displays colored bricks he scavenged from the Met during its demolition. These are the colors in question!






The base of the old Met Stadium flagpole. (The plaque refers to the "Flame of Freedom" and not the origin of the pole.)









This is the actual entrance for Gate 6. Notice how close the seating will be. The back row of the lower deck will be mere inches beyond that inner support post.















Detail showing clubhouse and home dugout (click to see the entire drawing)



These outfield stands will likely remain visible to passersby.



Looking back toward the doorway into the club



Lots of work has gone into detailing the fronts of these decks. That is a little thing, but a NICE little thing. (HRP View)



Photo by Tom Sweeney, Star Tribune









Open concourses do mean that you can glimpse the field no matter where you are, but not really the game.






That's Fifth Street (and a tattooed arm) in the foreground.






Handshakes all around (there's gonna be a lot of that over the next few weeks)



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This is where the plaza meets First Avenue



Met Stadium seat colors (click for the complete image)



Here's a first view of the surprisingly spacious walkway on Fifth between the ballpark and the LRT platform.



573 Club



Party deck






Final Metrodome baseball sight






They can put a camera just about anywhere. (Photo by Jeff Ewer)












Dave St. Peter introducing the first physical models of the ballpark in June 2007






Gate 6 Oliva, with the 573 Club looming large over it (I wonder how Tony feels about that)



Perched welder on the top of the canopy.



Nicely-cushioned seats, lots of room, great sightlines






This is the left field pavilion in the original concept model. The restaurant pictured to its right has been moved, and the seating area has been extended at least one full section toward center.



Locations for ticket machines near the Hrbek outdoor plaza


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BPM - Ballpark Magic

BRT - Bus Rapid Transit

DSP - Dave St. Peter

FSE - Full Season Equivalent

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HERC - Hennepin Energy Resource Company (aka the Garbage Burner)

HPB - Home Plate Box

HRP - Home Run Porch

LC - Legends Club

LRT - Light Rail Transit

MBA - Minnesota Ballpark Authority (will own Target Field)

MOA - Mall of America

MSFC - Minnesota Sports Facilities Commission (owns the Metrodome)

NYS - New Yankee Stadium

SRO - Standing Room Only

STH - Season Ticket Holder

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