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April 2, 2011 1:22 AM

Watching a game on opening day is a rare joy. It's even more rare when you can watch two of the original franchises in the sport play in one of the oldest parks.

Admittedly, the two teams in question -- Cubs and Pirates -- are not really among the most competitive these days, but they are both blessed with long and very familiar traditions. And the mere site of them taking the field this afternoon on the north side connects today with 110 (or more) opening days past.

The pageantry at Wrigley Field was beautifully understated. A relatively simple rendition of GBA was followed by a delightfully restrained SSB, both accompanied by the distinctive warble of a truly classic ballpark organ. The inevitable giant flag wasn't actually as absurdly gigantic as we've become accustomed to. It was just nicely large. (Size doesn't matter.)

Ron Santo's family threw out a pitch. A kid picked randomly from the stands threw out a pitch. Robert Redford threw out a pitch. The umps had their photo taken at home plate.

Then it was all game. The place was packed (though the stands across the street were mostly empty). The sky was cloudy and the wind blowing out. It rained through all of the early innings. In the 4th there was a grand slam which bounced out onto the street. Unfortunately, it was by the visitors. The stands quickly began emptying. But a hardy few stayed until the last painful out. It was so baseball.

During the winter I read a remarkable book called Autumn Glory by Louis P. Masur. It's the story of the first World Series, between the Pirates and the Red Sox. (If you want to truly enjoy the book, don't look up how it came out before you read it. If you already know, try to forget.)

The book is enjoyable on many levels, but I think my favorite aspect was that it dedicates chapters to each team's season, personnel, character, ballpark, city, fans, and more. You get a sense not just for who these people were, but what the baseball experience was from both the inside and the outside. Masur beautifully evokes a very different era, but because the story is told in such an immediate fashion, it leaves the reader easily able to make connections between then and now.

As I watched the Cubs and Pirates take the field, I was living that connection, recognizing just how much today's pageantry had in common with those early days (quite a lot, as it turns out). Among many common denominators, the passion for the game of both players and fans is a thick bonding agent across the decades.

I don't have to tell you that, between the lines, especially in the National League, the game is essentially unchanged from its early years. Even though these guys are bigger and stronger and better prepared than any players in history, what they are trying to accomplish -- along with the means of accomplishing it -- has barely changed. They walked out onto a field which looked pretty much as fields did 110 years ago, and started throwing and hitting and running, pretty much like players did 110 years ago.

Beyond the lines, the game is nearly unrecognizable, and nowhere is that more evident than at Wrigley Field. We know what those guys are getting paid. We know just how profitable and financially valuable these franchises are. We know management's take on the fan with little money.

Where advertising was once banished in the name of "purity" (which never actually existed, by the way), it now dots the inside of the park and dominates the view beyond the outfield walls. Still lamenting the addition of lights to the park's classic profile? Well, how about radiant heating for the suite level? Yep, it's there. So are LCD screens and cushy seats and the harsh separation of classes.

This is not a lament. Change is inevitable. And it is the ability to see and appreciate and, to the extent necessary, forgive the change that I experienced today. If you study the game, these are the moments you live for. The business side may bear no resemblance to its forebears, but a base hit is still a base hit. I do love that.

Another book (more like a pamphlet, actually) that I read recently is Quotations from Chairman Calvin, edited by David Anderson. Calvin Griffith said and did a whole lot of crazy things. But as baseball personalities go, his is among the most memorable. And his love of the game was always contagious:

"I love baseball so goddamn much -- it's like a dessert."

That's what opening day is about. And I'm happy to say that I got that today.

Tickets

Anybody still wanting to order tickets for April 9 should look at the previous post for an order form. Ticket sales here will end Sunday night even if there are still seats available in the group.


As an aside, I heard that the Twins also played today. I guess it was brutal. I was only able to see about 20 seconds of "highlights" on my local news. Meanwhile, the always-scintillating Wolves were stinking up airwaves that might otherwise have been filled with opening day baseball. That is pretty f-ed up, if you ask me.

Twins, I'm calling on you to make this right. You have no obligation to show games over the air, but it's the right thing to do. Providing the equivalent of TV cheap seats will do you a world of good with your fan base in the long run.

One word: simulcasting.

I had a blast watching the Cubs today, but I'm not interested in changing allegiance. You guys are my team, and I want to see you play.

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I watched it tonight. Living in Chicago for the past 10 years, the Twins are one of the things I fervently look forward to during the winter, anticipate during early spring, blissfully enjoy during mid-summer and obsess over in late summer, lament the temporary break from beginning in October, and relish the return of in April; and most importantly they are (and watching them is) one of the few things that keep me feeling connected with home. I have a Roku now, partly because a little over a year ago I decided to stop paying for cable altogether. Small consolation, since I'm now paying for it just the same, albeit in a slightly less dictated way in the form of Netflix, Hulu Plus, and my mlb.tv subscription. I'm not sure what I would be doing were I living at home, be it giving in to the tv extortionists, or defiantly and exclusively listening to John Gordon's last season on-air, but I'm willing to do it here in Chicago, if for no other reason than it makes me feel connected; to home, to family and friends, to my home "land."

But in the end, I have to say I'm with you Rick.

Hey Twins! Hows about you don't shit on your faithful, loyal fan-base, instead show some appreciation, and let the increasingly large segment of the less-rich population continue to enjoy that which they so strongly identify with and feel connected to, and through. Bur by all means, don't do it if it's not, you know, convenient or profitable.

Posted on April 2, 2011 at 02:08 AM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 1

D'oh! Spelling fail. *But...

Posted on April 2, 2011 at 02:10 AM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 2

Great post Rick! I actually was at Wrigley for their opener and from the moment I walked into the park from the usher telling me" Welcome to Wrigley!" and the loud cheer of the fans when their Funnies took the field for the first time in 2011 I had many reasons why I love this awesome game of baseball and I could finally say to mysef that the boys of summer are back! Can't wait for our Minnesota 9 to take Target Field for the first time next Friday!! Love the site and the insightful articles Rick! You describe what some can't put into words regarding America and Minnesota's favorite pastime! Keep up the awesome work!
Justin

Posted on April 2, 2011 at 05:44 AM by jjman114 Highlight this comment 3

Oops I did it too I meant Cubbies :)

Posted on April 2, 2011 at 05:45 AM by jjman114 Highlight this comment 4

I've been to 40 games at Wrigley and every time I go I get excited and feel like I'm 10 again (Memorial day weekend I'll be there this year). Last year, I felt the same way going to Target Field! My first game is a week from today and the forecast is looking better! Thoughts, Jared?

I love baseball and today is one of the many reasons why. Lose a game by 10 runs? Forget about it and play agin today! Go Twins! (Although after waiting all winter, last night was a bit of a buzzkill to say the least!)

Posted on April 2, 2011 at 09:02 AM by ole Highlight this comment 5

Hi from sunny TF! Free wi-fi working! Go Gophers!

Posted on April 2, 2011 at 1:11 PM by Buzz Highlight this comment 6

There is a nice story on CNN.com about new technology in baseball parks this year, including Target Field. Too bad they didn't check their facts, they think Carl Pohlad is still alive. I expected better from CNN, it's been over 2 years.

Posted on April 2, 2011 at 2:45 PM by shoff Highlight this comment 7

Good show by the hometown nine today. Big improvement with the fielding compared to Friday night. We're almost there.

Posted on April 2, 2011 at 3:10 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 8

Hmmmmmmm....I wouldn't mind 0-2 except:

a. Outscored 19-4
b. Vernon Wells left this team
c. It's Toronto
d. NY right around the corner
e. The White Sox appear to have some serious lumber

For some reason, I'm envisioning Butera and Repko starting tomorrow to give M&M some rest.

Posted on April 2, 2011 at 3:25 PM by twinswschamps2011 Highlight this comment 9

If this happened mid-season, like it did last July, we would be thinking nothing of this other than a mid-season slump...

If you need a reminder:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=300708114&page=plays We lost 2 of 3, granted we played better, but it just was a beat down.

I would much rather have the Twins start out this way that end this way...

Posted on April 2, 2011 at 3:59 PM by tk Highlight this comment 10

The next four days will be very telling. My fear is that, unless Nishi has a mean streak nobody knows about, this team will continue to lack any vocal leadership from its roster.

Too bad Pirates' reliever Evan Meek isn't on this team. He'd be the poster boy.

Posted on April 2, 2011 at 4:12 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 11

I think 1-6, and 5 games behind the Sox, is a reasonable possibility for the home opener.

Posted on April 2, 2011 at 5:04 PM by Lincster Highlight this comment 12

"That's all we got, one goddamn hit?" - Harry Doyle

Posted on April 2, 2011 at 5:31 PM by ab21 Highlight this comment 13

When we start quoting Harry Doyle to describe the Twins, we know we're off to a bad start! I'll still settle for 160-2.

Posted on April 2, 2011 at 6:06 PM by terry Highlight this comment 14

Like I said --- too many question marks. I'd feel a lot better had they at least made a decent account of themselves.

Posted on April 2, 2011 at 8:28 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 15

I've also noticed over the past couple of years that the Twins have real trouble against pitchers they haven't seen before, especially young pitchers. You'd think they'd have the upper hand on that, but that isn't the case.

Just. Don't. Get. It.

Posted on April 2, 2011 at 9:25 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 16

I’m as big of a Twins fan as anyone, however until they can have a winning record against the AL East, it’s hard for me to take them seriously. Winning the Central is nice but then crossing your fingers and hoping for a miracle has gotten to be really old.
Since the Twins don’t have a true number 1 or 2 pitcher, it’s going to be the same old Twins. Yes, I’ll still watch, listen and go to the games but the end result is already a given.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 06:36 AM by bphj Highlight this comment 17

At least the Twins are consistent with the rest of Minnesota sports teams they stink. Twins will probably be in contention but like bphj said having no number 1 or 2 kills you when playing eastern teams and in the playoffs.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 08:25 AM by firedog Highlight this comment 18

waaaaaaaaa...waaaaaaaaaa...listen to all the babies cry. It's 2 games in fellas.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 09:24 AM by Jim Highlight this comment 19

Linked is a view of a flickr contact that went to the gopher game at TF the other day. Its a view from behind home plate and shows the view of the new tower and video board. They aren't on in the image but still a good look nonetheless.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 09:45 AM by Jared Highlight this comment 20

It's only been two games but this year seems no different than any other year in that the Twins generally do not play very well against teams outside the AL Central.

It just seems like teams such as New York, Boston, Toronto, Anaheim, Oakland, and Seattle always give the Twins trouble.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 09:54 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 21

Only two games. But, what are we going to be saying if the Twins finish those two games out? The larger issue is how well they play and so far we have only seen lousy. And, as far as " --- Yes, I’ll still watch, listen and go to the games --- ", that is EXACTLY what the Twins are hoping for. It's not about winning anything (that is only a bonus if it happens), it's about maintaining an approach (supported by spin as much as anything else) that is just good enough to keep your money flowing into their pockets.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 10:54 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 22

Seriously folks relax

"The larger issue is how well they play and so far we have only seen lousy"

Ben I get that these 1st two games have been terrible but 2 games in baseball is meaningless. It's 1.2% (2/162) of the season. We have a new middle infield, our cleanup guy is playing his 1st real game in 9 months. Give them time to settle before we panic.

This football mentality where every game counts will ruin your baseball season. Think of it this way, would you be willing draw the same too many question marks conclusion if the Vikes were down 21-3 after the 1st quarter of the 1st game of the season? If not you aught to, that's 1.5% (4 quarters per game x 16 games=64 quarters, 1/64=1.5%) of your NFL season, more total football than 2 baseball games.

As Mike Tice said "ENJOY THE SEASON"

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 11:23 AM by jp Highlight this comment 23

Ben - are you serious? If the Twins just wanted "keep your money flowing into their pockets" (fill Target field last year and this year), don't you think that they could easily cut 30 to 40 million from the payroll and still accomplish that?

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 11:52 AM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 24

Only the third game of the season and already Dish Network is screwing me out of the high definition I am paying for.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 12:03 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 25

so....i wonder how many innings until the first twins hit today...and no mauer in the lineup already in game 3.

rick and others without cable/sat, consider yourselves lucky so far to not have to witness this bullshit.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 12:29 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 26

oh my gosh...what's that i see? The Twins getting a hit in the 3rd..and it's a homerun no less...The first lead of the year folks!! Ain't no stoppin us now!

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 12:38 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 27

Wow - does it feel good to be sitting on a lead! How long has it been?

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 12:39 PM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 28

I think it's Tommy Lasorda who gets credit for sayiing this (or something very close):

"Even the best teams will lose a third of their games. Even the worst teams will win a third of their games. It's the other third which make all the difference."

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 12:43 PM by Rick 29

let's just hope it lasts more than a half inning.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 12:44 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 30

Bill Smith squirming in his recliner as Nish makes a 2nd error in 3 games to compliment his .200 stick...

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 1:35 PM by twinswschamps2011 Highlight this comment 31

My first prediction to come true this year! Mauer rested after day game on Opening Weekend! We will probably see the $23 million dollar man in no more than 120 games this year...assuming he stays healthy. Even though it's Joe Mauer, that is a LOT of dough to throw to a catcher will dicey knees that appears to be sitting out at least 1 out of every 5-6 games going forward. I'd also like to see Casilla actually get, say, 20 games to win this job as opposed to a carousel already starting at SS.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 1:39 PM by twinswschamps2011 Highlight this comment 32

Did 1500ESPN increase their signal? I got all the way to St. Cloud today listening to the call.

Also, Gladden joined the FSN telecast today. I did not need to know that Gladden is a spitter and not a swallower.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 2:09 PM by TK Highlight this comment 33

7th inning....I am starting to get that sick feeling......

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 2:12 PM by Jeff T. Highlight this comment 34

In the 5th inning, if Valencia was sent in by Liddle, why? Keep the bases loaded and no outs...why make the first out at home. I do get that it took a strong throw, but why force the issue with the pitcher struggling.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 2:19 PM by TK Highlight this comment 35

OK...I'm sorry....2 men on, top of the 8th, 1 run lead...pull Butera for Mauer.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 2:30 PM by twinswschamps2011 Highlight this comment 36

^^That is a no brain move for me. How is Mauer's knee. So he catches 2 innings and gives you a stronger potential insurance opportunity than Butera who strikes out with a pitch that would have hit a left hand batter.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 2:37 PM by TK Highlight this comment 37

So this is how it feels to be the opponent of Rauch, I like it!

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 2:40 PM by TK Highlight this comment 38

Welcome back, Joe Nathan!

I bet his heart is going a mile a minute right now.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 2:47 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 39

so is mine....where's the maalox????

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 2:54 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 40

Wow, didn't miss these nerves last year...

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 3:06 PM by TK Highlight this comment 41

phew.....good thing they won, it's so important especially since they're going to lose their next 4.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 3:07 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 42

I think this team just needed to get a win and will be fine.

I do not see Nishi's nerves to be shaken away any time soon. I think after his first home stand he will be better. I would be nervous going into NYS, and I cannot imagine what he will be going through.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 3:16 PM by TK Highlight this comment 43

What if the Twins finish two games out? Are you serious? If you're going to look back at the first two games of the year as make-or-break games, why would you give a pass to the other dozens of losses sure to come? How many games did San Francisco lose last year? Texas? Yanks?
And we're already writing off Nishioka after two errors and a .200 average on opening weekend?

Ridiculous.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 3:38 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 44

I wasn't writing Nishi off by any means. All I was saying is that he is shaking the nerves and I see these continuing until we can welcome him into his new home.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 3:42 PM by TK Highlight this comment 45

tk,

i think dr.x was responding to Ben.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 3:55 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 46

I think he was responding to my comment about Bill Smith squirming in his recliner. And, it was more of a Bill Smith comment than a Nish commment. That said, Nish basically had a career year in Japan last year...his prior year #s would've never gotten him to the Big Show. So, I hope Bill knows what he is doing. The good news: Nish is basically replacing 3 injury-riddled guys that were non-factors last year. I'm just happy Nathan threw 30 pitches and appears to be ok. That was really quick recovery from TJ surgery for an old-timer. And, yes, it was nice to face Rauch rather than depend on him. Span took him to task. Span and my boy Blackburn are the two bright spots in a pretty dismal series. I'm happy to be 1-2.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 4:19 PM by twinswschamps2011 Highlight this comment 47

Oh my, it's good to be talking about actual baseball again. Winter is too long!

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 5:02 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 48

I am glad that the Twins are limping into New York :) I would hate them to go in strong and have a huge buzz kill.

Regardless, my homer is going to come out here and say the Twins are going to surprise (2-2) or even (3-1).

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 5:44 PM by TK Highlight this comment 49

It's not losing the first two games --- it's losing the first two game games while looking absolutely lifeless. How about "inauspicious" - is that OK? When do the games start "counting"?

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 5:48 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 50

Let's hope the Twins don't continue the Minnesota Sucks Tour 2010-2011. Lord knows we've had enough of the Live Shit Binge and Purge losing ways of the T-wolves, Wild and Vikings. Let's hope for a Twins World Series this year.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 6:52 PM by luke Highlight this comment 51

They all count, of coursse, but the twins, like any other team, will lose 1/3 of their games. So why weight these two more than two losses in July or August? What if the Twins finish one game out? Which of their 54+ losses do we blame for that?

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 7:16 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 52

The Twins are who we thought they were, nothing more, nothing less. They are a mediocre team that competes within its division. Outside the division, it's ugly. Why is anyone surprised or concerned at this point? The Twins will be fine once they play their 654,345 games against divisional opponents and if they're lucky enough to make the playoffs, they'll roll over and die as planned. PLAY BALL!

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 7:32 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 53

Nailed it right on the head Kevin.

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 9:20 PM by luke Highlight this comment 54

Look at those Royals leading the division...

I've been saying for several years, if that team finally realizes how good they can be, they'll be dangerous.

(I lived in KCMO for a few years way back when the Royals won the 'I-70 Series' against the Cards, and I've had a soft spot for that team since then.)

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 9:40 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 55

Just out of the box and we've already determined that the Twins are no better than they were before.

What's the point in playing the other 159?

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 10:01 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 56

Yeah, I guess it's settled: Baltimore and Texas in the ALCS, Philadelphia and Cincinnati in the NLCS. See you all next spring!

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 10:22 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 57

Why even bother watching? Oh yeah, so you can relentlessly complain all season long...

Posted on April 3, 2011 at 10:53 PM by justin s Highlight this comment 58

I like how Gardy says lets go to New York and survive! What kinda mentality is that, its like he is conceding to defeat before they even play the games.

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 07:23 AM by firedog Highlight this comment 59

I do have some sympathy that they have been away from home since February 15 or so, and this is in essence their 4th stop in a week (Ft. Meyers to Atlanta to Toronto to NY). I know its the start of the season and this is what they do, but I can also imagine they are feeling like it would be ok to be home for a little bit here.

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 08:04 AM by Lincster Highlight this comment 60

yea and when they do come home, it's a short home stand! 5 games and back on the road

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 09:11 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 61

Low 50s and a chance for rain for the opener on Friday. Looks like the inconsistency in the forecast is in the path the system takes. This would affect length and timing of the rain but for the most part be prepared to get wet. I have been super busy the past 5 days and haven't been able to watch 1 pitch of a twins game, which appears to have been mostly a good thing so far. But in the spirit of baseball, here is a little comedy, Harry Caray and baseball.

The First Baseball Game

First Baseball Game Part 2

If Fox News Broadcast a ball game

Heaven vs Hell Baseball Game

And since we got the Yankees next...Dang, I have one for them, but can't find it at the moment. Will post tonight...

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 09:39 AM by Jared Highlight this comment 62

My personal policy is not to look at the standings until after the 4th of July. That is generally around the halfway point of the season and is when the standing really begin to matter. The Twins could start out 0-10 (or 10-0) and the do the complete opposite over the next 10 games. So at this point it is far to early to be concerned about how they are planning.

That being said, I, made it to the first Gopher game on Friday, fully intending to sit in my regular seats, but it was roped off because of ice. So my friend and I instead sat 3 rows up and heckled the ump for making bad calls.

The new videoboard was on Friday and it looked good, doesn't stand out as much as I thought it would. The Twins tower was not on. The new Limestone looks as though it has been there from the beginning and I doubt the casual observer would even notice it.

The worst thing I noticed in the ballpark, asides from them not having hot coffee on a 45 degree day, was that beer prices went up a quarter.

I also saw they had people out polishing the bronze statues and removing the winter buildup off of them. When I was there Calvin was getting a pretty good rub-down by four dudes in rubber gloves.

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 09:58 AM by Duffman Highlight this comment 63

It is also far too early to be concerned about how they are playing, as opposed to planning.

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 09:59 AM by Duffman Highlight this comment 64

The Calvin statue really took a beating this winter. I noticed that the other day when I was over there...moreso than the rest of the statues.

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 10:24 AM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 65

I noticed the people cleaning up the bronze statues on Saturday afternoon as well.

I generally don't pay attention to the standings until after the All-Star game, but its a known fact the Twins are not a good team outside of the AL Central. They usually have a very good record within the AL Central and they always play the NL well too in interleague. But for some reason, they just don't seem to play well when it comes to games outside of the AL Central. Whether its New York, Boston, Toronto, Baltimore, Seattle, Oakland or Anaheim.

The Twins are like a AAA HS football team beating up on small AA teams all season in conference play than falling flat in the playoffs when they have to play another AAA team of their own size.

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 10:28 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 66

Rick - in your blog above, you state the following:

"Where advertising was once banished in the name of "purity...."

I'm confused as to what you meant by that. I'm sure you've seen the old pictures of Ebbetts Field, Yankee Stadium (and the like).....advertising was EVERYWHERE. The walls in outfield were virtually covered in advertisements for tobacco products, colas, etc.

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 10:45 AM by Fred Highlight this comment 67

The Twins were 24W-12L against the West last year. So we might not beat up on the East but we don't just beat the Central.

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 11:33 AM by Joe117 Highlight this comment 68

Home Opener tickets, more have been released right now if you are still looking...

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 12:35 PM by tk Highlight this comment 69

The Twins must have recently released more tickets for the home opener. There are quite a few good seats available right now for the home opener on the Twins website...it's pretty sad there are more choices now than there were during the "lottery" presale a few weeks ago.

There were some row 2 overlook seats available too.

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 12:45 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 70

Didn't see TK's post, sorry for repeating the information

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 12:45 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 71

Mike,

This happens every year, we just did not see this as much at the Dome, as there was always tickets available.

Last season, I was able to get great seats to a lot of games, by just checking the Twins site periodically and scored nice seats from time to time. Was able to find Dugout Box, Row 2 for a game against Seattle last year.

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 12:51 PM by tk Highlight this comment 72

tk-

At the Dome for ADA seats I saw it all the time every year, especially with section 127. I'd call at the beginning of the season and be told those seats are all sold out. Then later in the year be able to buy some, sucked.

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:28 PM by Dave Highlight this comment 73

I saw some reasonably priced tickets for opening day on TC Traders as well.

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:38 PM by Rick 74

It will be interesting to see what happens to the StubHub prices over the next few days. Still about 3750 tickets still available.

I would say 1/3 of those are Season ticket holders who have their seats up for sale, if they sale, great, if not, they will likely attend the game.

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:43 PM by tk Highlight this comment 75

@Rick,

I apologize to all about notifying about the release of tickets, I did not check TCTraders today, but I usually do to make sure that there are no tickets available before sharing.

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:47 PM by tk Highlight this comment 76

Just bought tickets today for my first game of the year, April 26 against TB! Does anyone know if there's a free place to park somewhere near Target Field, preferably along 5th St, and where I could get a Holiday Station store hot dog?

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 3:09 PM by Faber College Alum Highlight this comment 77

FCA,

Well Played!

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 3:25 PM by tk Highlight this comment 78

F_T_K, that was a great Series.
KC was down 3 games to 1 not only in the WS but also in the ALCS, if memory serves correctly.

And, who can forget that call by Don Denkinger in Game 6? Me wonders sometimes whether he still gets death threats from pissed off Cardinals fans.

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 4:26 PM by luke Highlight this comment 79

Anyone read the Miller Park article in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinal talking about Miller Park turning 10 years old?

Funny reading some of those comments blasting Target Field...

"Miller Park has better sightlines than Target Field"

"Target Field has no tailgating"

"What about the rain and snow they get up there in Minnesota"

Those are a few examples...

While Milwaukee is unique with its baseball tailgating, last I checked, baseball is historically a game played in an urban setting.

These are the same Wisconsin fans that sit outdoors at Lambeau Field in -25 weather for Packer games in December and January. If any sport belongs outdoors, its baseball, and Minnesota got it right with Target Field. The Twins are MUCH more regionalized than the Brewers, with fans coming from Iowa, South Dakota, North Dakota, and yes, Wisconsin, to attend games.

You can claim football is a game meant to be played outdoors in the elements, but times have changed and the NFL season now extends well into January. How many folks really want to sit outside in December and January for football games while paying over $70 for a ticket?

There is a reason a lot of Packer fans sell their tickets for games in December and January and that is because they don't like sitting out there either, whether they want to admit it or not.

Also, Lambeau Field sits empty for those other 355 days each year while a dome would at least bring in some nice NCAA tournament games, concerts, possible Super Bowl and many other events throughout the entire year.

And did some of those Brewers fans forget that they played many years OUTDOORS at County Stadium?

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 4:33 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 80

Miller Park has about as much ambiance as Sam's Club.

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 4:49 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 81

"What about the rain and snow they get up there in Minnesota"

Haha! That one was funny. They act like they're a southern state. Minneapolis isn't very much more north than Green Bay is. We're not the North Pole.

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 4:54 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 82

Anybody else catch one of Bremer's lines yesterday:

"Bautista leads off with the bases empty."

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 5:00 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 83

Luke, I still remember watching one of the local KC television 'talking heads', after the Royals lost the first two games of the World Series (at home!).

In all seriousness, he looked into the camera and said "I think it's vital that the Royals win 2 out of 3 in St. Louis."...

I yelled at the tv and swore at him and called him an idiot for stating something so obvious so seriously... ;-)

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 5:19 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 84

Who here keeps us up to date with the Twins' magic number? I forget and I really need to know.

K

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 5:23 PM by Kramer Highlight this comment 85

Last season to track Gordon-isms. Best so far has been a "Here's the opening pitch to Bautista... low... two-and-one..."

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 5:25 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 86

Looks like Wally is not allowed to sell beer at the ballpark....will be working as a "celebrity bartender" gamedays at Sneaky Pete's instead.

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 5:32 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 87

why do i even watch when they play in new york.....arrrrrrgh!

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 6:21 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 88

masochist

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 6:51 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 89

It's funny. Growing up in Eau Claire as a Twins fan, all I heard from Brewers fans is that "baseball is meant to be played outside." They ripped on the Dome (and rightfully so). Now, the Brewers play in a retractable Dome that is closed much of the time (and seems closed when it's open) and they are wondering how we put up with the rain and snow. Funny how some things change....

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 7:05 PM by Jeff T. Highlight this comment 90

Scott Baker the home run maker is in midseason form. Twins will be
1-6 into the home opener. So predictable!!!

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 7:08 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 91

Mauer's earning his keep early...

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 7:36 PM by TK Highlight this comment 92

I think you're right AJ, I am.

And Jeff, I thought the same exact thing when reading that article. I remember the Brewers fans talking up how much tougher they were for surviving the elements of county stadium. My how the shoe swaps feet quickly.

Posted on April 4, 2011 at 7:47 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 93

Anybody know if the Twins have posted a schedule of events for TF opening day? (sorry if i missed it earlier here)

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 08:25 AM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 94

Yep the Brewer's airport hanger is the new humpty dump!!!!!Have been there a couple of times. NOT impressed at all. Your right Jeff even open it feels closed!

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 08:30 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 95

Mauer....186 million for a glorified singles hitter. Money well spent. Oh wait, not too many singles yet this year. He had to sit after the second game, because Gardy doesn't want to tire him out. He's gotta handle those pitchers really well. Oh that's right didn't our pitchers give up 13 runs the first game. Joe must really call a great game.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 09:14 AM by Todd Highlight this comment 96

@ Stevie B. Yeah, there is a schedule of events for TF opening day! Here is the link: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20110331&content_id=17221188&vkey=pr_min&fext=.jsp&c_id=min&partnerId=J231K8XCR21-161

This is my first post by the way! Glad I found this site as I have never before been to a game at TF. But after reading all the posts and looking at all the pics, I feel like I sort of have! And I will actually have the real experience this Saturday at the game. I actually got tickets from here for the BPM night! First time at TF and first time at BPM night, needless to say I'm pretty excited!!

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 09:03 AM by Kyle Highlight this comment 97

Welcome, Kyle. I think you'll find this is a pretty good place to hang out. :-)

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 09:40 AM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 98

Thanks Kyle - just what I was looking for. Enjoy your first (of many I hope) game at Target Field. And keep coming back to this site. Most enjoyable place I have found to keep up with the ballpark and Twins

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 10:25 AM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 99

I have goosebumps just thinking about the 148th Fighter Wing flyover. If anything, that is reason enough to be at the game. I just wish they would open it up the throttle when they flyover...

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 10:39 AM by tk Highlight this comment 100

miller park is all well and fine. but that quote from that article that it's top 5 in mlb i don't agree with. It's all subjective but i echo other's who have been there. Yes, going to a game there is an event but the roof is hangar like. you're trading a basefall feel for all weather comfort. look at that recent blue jays series. domed baseball is so sterile and cavernous. enjoy your stadium milwaukee, but i'll take TF.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 10:39 AM by tim Highlight this comment 101

Watching the series at Rogers Centre, I was unsure of what I felt more uncomfortable with: the way the Twins were playing or the fact that it brought back bad memories of the Dump.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 10:52 AM by tk Highlight this comment 102

tk: I plan on being on the roof of our building here in Nordeast to see those jets. /fingers crossed/ that the weather is nice enough for them to fly.

Let's see if they can match the timing of the one last year, it was just about perfect. Last line of the anthem, jets cruise over, fireworks go off. What a way to get the home crowd into the game!

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 11:07 AM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 103

Bronx Bombed Again! Click my name to read more!

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 11:33 AM by Vikeologist Highlight this comment 104

Until last night, I was giving Mauer (AVG: .091; I've seen higher breathalyzer readings) some what of a pass the first couple games.

However, last night, Mauer was just going through the motions on his timely ground balls and showed no giddy-up. I would like to see Mauer benched and Butera inserted, I mean, Butera has just as many hits in 7 less at-bats.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 11:57 AM by tk Highlight this comment 105

FTK ---

The F-16 is an all weather aircraft.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 12:03 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 106

as opposed to say, the 737?

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 1:03 PM by N.D. (aka N.D. "Rube") Highlight this comment 107

Kyle, this site got me through a L-O-N-G winter!

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 1:34 PM by terry Highlight this comment 108

Yes, Ben - I'm a veteran so I'm somewhat familiar with what an F-16 can do.

I'm referring to things like too low a ceiling to safely fly around a downtown area.

I'll still be on our roof watching for them!

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 4:29 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 109

TwinkFan: couldn't agree more with your assessment of Miller Park (I wonder if any locals around there affectionately call it "The Can"? It'd be appropriate).

Miller Park (aka "The Can") is going to have some fierce competition when the Marlins open their airplane hangar next year. I'll say it till I'm blue in the face, I'm so glad they didn't put one of "those" on TF.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 4:35 PM by luke Highlight this comment 110

TF would be horrible with a roof!

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 4:42 PM by tk Highlight this comment 111

This is a disturbing item on the Strib website today:

Update: Fox Sports North is televising 150 Twins game this season, at least 34 more than in any previous year, but subscribers to Charter Communications, Mediacom, Cable One and Dish Network are currently slated to see only 105 of those games.

An FSN spokeswoman said in a statement that “negotiations are ongoing,” adding, “customers may wish to contact their cable provider to request these additional games.”

Looks like tonight is one of those games I don't get on Dish Network. I already fired off an irate email. If there are any Dish Network customers on here, click on my name and fire off your own!

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 6:04 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 112

Game Over!!! Now I can get on with my evening. Instead of watching this collection of stiffs.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 6:21 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 113

Another stellar start for our guys against the Yankees tonight. Oi...

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 6:22 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 114

Bad - Thanks for the heads up, I couldn't figure out why on earth it was blacked out. My hatred for Dish Network was already at an all-time high - I can't wait until my contract is up (or close enough that DirecTV will subsidize me). The only good thing I can ever say about Dish is that they showed up the same afternoon I called to have them install. It has literally been downhill ever since.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 6:37 PM by B Highlight this comment 115

In my 44 1/2 years on God's Green Earth, I have never witnessed anything like this Twins/Yankees phenomenon. You couldn't write a movie script like this because the public wouldn't believe it. This is nearing Globetrotters/Washington Generals. I am going to worry if the Yankees start bringing ladders and buckets of water/confetti out on the field....

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 6:53 PM by Jeff T. Highlight this comment 116

B - I couldn't find the game on FSN and went on Strib website to see if it was somehow on a different channel and got that nugget. I plan to send an email and give them a phone call every time they skip a game or don't broadcast in HD.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 7:01 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 117

B,

Your first clue should have been that they could come right away...that means they aren't BUSY enough!!!

I've been with DirecTV for a few years now and it is outstanding. The vast programming and variety they carry are 2nd to none. You definitely pay to play, but if you are a sports fan there is no better television option. My only complaint is that it does tend to lose the satellite signal in the summer when we get a nasty boondoggle thunderstorm (usually from the heavy rain).

BTW, just an FYI I just returned from Toronto where I took in the 1st 2 games from Rogers Centre. Anyone that complains about beer prices at Target Field doesn't realize how lucky they are (everything is relative...). A 16 oz beer was $10.75 at RC. That same beer at Target Field will be $7.50 this season (up a quarter in 2011). We live in a ridiculously tax heavy state, however, nothing compares to our neighbors to the north. 12% HST tax on everything and cases of beer for between $40-$60. Ridiculous.

See you on Friday Luke!!

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 7:25 PM by Max Highlight this comment 118

Looks like the offense is in post-season form already. 11 runs in almost 5 full games. Twins need to pull there head out of there a**

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 7:43 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 119

I dont mean to sound like an ass but why does anyone choose Dish Network over DirecTV? DirecTV is hands down the best provider out there. They have the most sports programming, the most HD Channels, the price is just as good if not better, and their equipment is head and shoulders better than Dish Networks.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 7:59 PM by Vikeologist Highlight this comment 120

Max - You're right on the money. I had DirecTV for years, thought it was great, but decided to switch when they weren't offering me any promotions to upgrade to HD. Turns out I should have talked to their loyalty dept and they would have taken care of me, but unfortunately I had already switched. Won't make that mistake again.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 8:00 PM by B Highlight this comment 121

I smell a comeback. And by comeback, I mean a return flight to Minneapolis on Thursday.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 8:10 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 122

So much for giving Morneau a day off? I cannot tell what is going on, but it appears he is in the game, as I have the screen game pulled up on MLB.com

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 8:14 PM by tk Highlight this comment 123

Why am I more happy to see Nishi come up with the bases loaded than Mauer. I have more confidence in Nishi...

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 8:22 PM by tk Highlight this comment 124

Let's go .0 double-7!

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 8:24 PM by tk Highlight this comment 125

even a blind squirrel...

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 8:32 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 126

Looks like Charter only uses Twitter for customer feedback:

@CharterCom
@CharterGeorge

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 8:56 PM by tk Highlight this comment 127

Nathan will blow it!!!

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 9:05 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 128

Max - question, is the $10.75 you quoted for a brew at the RC relative to the current USD to CD exchange rate? Is it $10.75 Canadian - or $10.75 in US dollars?

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 9:10 PM by luke Highlight this comment 129

In my case, I tried DirecTV first and they could not get a signal at my house. The neighbor apparently has a strategically poorly placed tree. Sad that something as common as a tree can defeat their system. Had bad experience with Comcast so gave Dish Network an unfortunate chance. Another ten months on the contract until I am done with them.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 9:20 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 130

Wow, did the Twins finally show up?

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 9:25 PM by tk Highlight this comment 131

...finds an acorn on occasion.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 9:25 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 132

Sorry firedog. Twins win!

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 9:25 PM by Buzz Highlight this comment 133

WOW!!!!!!!! They looked dead in the water through 7! What a win!!!!! Even Nathan looked good for the save!

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 9:28 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 134

Per my previous Globetrotters comment, the Washington Generals pull one out!

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 9:29 PM by Jeff T. Highlight this comment 135

So I have digital HD cable with Charter Communications and still am not able to witness a rare Twins win against the Yankees...

It never fails when it comes to sports and TV fighting over money. It's always the fan who loses out.

How can the Twins and FS North allow this to happen when they presumably have these agreements in place with cable and satellite providers BEFORE the season???

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 9:32 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 136

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 9:34 PM by twinswschamps2011 Highlight this comment 137

This is no offense to anyone on this site, but I am getting a little sick of all the negativity on this site. We are what, 5 games in and everyone rips "our" home town team? Between this site, and KFAN, the two places I used to enjoy getting Twins news from, and both are filled with negativity.

Rick, you do a great job with the site, however I will no longer be reading the comments, just your well written articles.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 9:34 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 138

Sorry to hear about all the troubles with seeing tonight's game. For what it's worth, I haven't seen a single pitch of Twins baseball yet this season, but I've watched a helluva lot from the windy city....

I've tried to listen, but the play-by-play has just gotten too sloppy and hard to follow.

But that leads to my question: I have the free version of the MLB app for Android, and I'm contemplating upgrading to the pay version. But I can't really tell what extra features it offers, and if it's worth the $15.

Anybody have a recommendation?

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 9:53 PM by Rick 139

Josh - I don't think you'll see the same level of negativity when the Twins aren't playing the Yankees.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 10:07 PM by Jeff T. Highlight this comment 140

Sorry, but this was more of a Yankees loss than a Twins win. Let see what they do on Wednesday.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 10:24 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 141

Josh-
I know what you mean about the negative comments being annoying. I recommend clicking the icon with the red X next to the commenter's name to not see their posts.  It gets confusing when others make comments about their comments though.  

It also helps to remember that there are different ways people enjoy baseball (and life).  Some enjoy being optimistic.  Some enjoying complaining. Some guard their emotions.  Some were raised by the downtrodden and it seems most realistic to expect sadness. The odds of any team winning the WS are less than 100 percent. So it is a safe bet that negative fans that point out shortcomings of a team will ultimately be right, their team is a loser. Just as negative people are ultimately correct about life, many things do not have the desired outcome and, don't forget, everyone dies.

Rick-
The MLB iPod app is worth the $15. You can listen to home or away radio feeds all year, free out-of-market TV feeds for April, free TV highlights during the game (archived for the year), ballpark guide maps, news, standings, stats, etc.

Anyone wanting DirecTV-
Get a referral from me or anyone you know with DirecTV.  Both get $10 month off for 10 months.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 10:38 PM by Buzz Highlight this comment 142

I am only negative because this team, even though early, has not shown any sense of team or fight until about the 7th inning tonight.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 10:40 PM by tk Highlight this comment 143

And some just drink the fuckin kool-aid and bitch about people bitching.

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 11:49 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 144

Lots of negativity here these days...

Just a reminder...that the Bo Sox are 0-4. They are to be considered the best team in baseball and picked by a majority of baseball insiders to win it all. Settle down, everyone. It's opening week...

Posted on April 5, 2011 at 11:53 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 145

Luke: That is $10.75 Canadian, so actually over $11 American dollars...

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 12:39 AM by Max Highlight this comment 146

"And some just drink the fuckin kool-aid and bitch about people bitching."

...Says one of the chief bitchers.
Heaven forefend anyone demonstrate some faith in the Twins, because that might mean that they're sheep or suckers. The most important thing you cn do on this board is demonstrate yourself to be your own man and not be taken in by those slick Twins. You know better. In fact, you know more baseball than anyone else. You're not one of the chumps who will get their balloon burst come October because you're too savvy; too much a man of the world.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 02:32 AM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 147

Personally, I actually appreciate their being more than one point of view on this board. That's kind of the point of even having a forum like this. It would be quite the snoozefest to just read comment after comment after comment singing the praises of the hometown nine. Variety is a good thing. So keep the positivity AND negativity coming!

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 06:45 AM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 148

I just chuckle at the negative folks. Heck, firedog ended up being wrong 3 times just during the game last night. That is good for a laugh.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 06:58 AM by Lincster Highlight this comment 149

The Yankees gave us that game. Three walks a bloop single and a bloop double score 4 runs. Maybe this will be the turning point against the Yankees, I just finished my big glass of kool aide!

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 07:23 AM by firedog Highlight this comment 150

Well, the negativity sure has got all the "Does anyone know what color the mustard is going to be?" type comments beat.

For me, as I've said countless times, it's a matter of how the team is playing. Those first two games were complete junk - no other way to look at it. Since then there have been a couple of bright spots but no great shakes. Getting lucky with walks and lame bloopers is not the same as playing quality ball. We deserve better and, until we start getting it, we have every right to call them out.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 07:23 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 151

i wholeheartedly agree with the DirecTV props. for a sports fan it's the superior service. I like the extras like special channels with different camera angles for big sporting events. maybe other sevices do this sort of stuff but directv seems to emphasis sports. this week it'll be multiple channels of the major holes at the masters. they've also been offering a free preview of MLB extra innings this week. MLB network is part of the basic package also, which is awesome.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 07:36 AM by tim Highlight this comment 152

3 denials in under 3 hours, now sees clearly the errors of his past... firedog, our own Peter. :)

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 07:46 AM by schweady Highlight this comment 153

Funny story...I vividly remember sitting in my college library in April 1991 reading the newspaper and seeing Twins sitting at 2-9 after their first 11 games. A friend walked by and we had a nice chuckle about how it didn't take long for the Twins to get to last place. We shook our heads and prepared for a dreary season. Turns out 1991 ended up pretty well. Just sayin'...

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 08:33 AM by Faber College Alum Highlight this comment 154

For sure Faber! That's what's great about baseball, it can go either way at anytime! There's still 157 games left, plenty of time!

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 08:57 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 155

Two more days, folks.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 09:22 AM by Chad Highlight this comment 156

My prediction for the road trip was 1-6, so they have exceeded my expectations. How's that for lowering the bar?

The Twins look like the same team we've seen the past few years, but we'll see. Maybe they will win out in New York and we'll all be pleasantly surprised.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 09:40 AM by Another Rick Highlight this comment 157

Okay, I just went and had a glass of Kool-Aid. Predicting an easy victory for the Twins tonight.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 09:53 AM by Another Rick Highlight this comment 158

I think frustration on this board is seen as negative, when it is more or less passion about the Twins being released in an aggressive tone.

I wish the Twins had players that would do this more publicly to show that they have the heart and balls to stick up and call one another out.

I have been "negative" over the past few days, however, I had the optimistic homer prediction that the Twins take 3 of 4. I still stand by that, but the Twins need to play a full 9+ in order for that to happen.

Does anyone know where to get the fruit punch, all I have is sour grape.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 10:02 AM by tk Highlight this comment 159

I think we tee off on Freddy Garcia tonight. He was 1-3 against us last year and in those 4 starts we averaged almost 8 hits off of him. Combine that with the fact that almost everything hit to the outfield at Yankee stadium is a dinger, and I am bullish.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 10:09 AM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 160

You know what, if you care about baseball, you're going to have good days and bad days -- just like the team. I mean, just having a bubble to burst is part of the fun, right?

Strong emotions -- positive or negative -- show that people care. The enemy is apathy (which I see no sign of here).

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 10:25 AM by Rick 161

Just to offer a break from the kvetching, I have a question. Before the ballpark opened I remember seeing an online animation that showed how the sunlight would fall on different parts of the park at different times of day and times of year. I can't find it, anybody know if it's still up somewhere?

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 10:29 AM by ClarkAddison Highlight this comment 162

ClarkAddison-Click my name.

The link oddly says "Seattle Mariners" but brings it to the Twins, so I don't know what that's about, but there it is.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 10:35 AM by AJ Highlight this comment 163

Thanks! Was trying to remember where the sun will be for friday's 3 pm start (if by some chance the sun will be present).

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 10:43 AM by ClarkAddison Highlight this comment 164

I don't mind the negativity when the Twins are losing and playing like shit. But then when they win, the bitchers keep bitching because somehow it wasn't a good enough win. It get sickening, and it's obvious they bitch just to bitch. Those like firedog and Kevin never comment about anything else, just about how the Twins suck. Those are not fans, just people who enjoy bitching.

For anyone wanting to switch to DirecTV, contact me and I will give you my account number. If you sign up with that, you and I will both get $100 (in the form of a $10 bill credit for 10 months). In addition, if you sign up for ACH and also give an email address, you get an addition $10 credit for a year. Makes the price pretty low for a year. I have the middle programming package with and HD DVR and two receivers, and it costs me $101/month.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 10:44 AM by antifire Highlight this comment 165

***$101 is my price now (full price).**** With discounts, would be more like $80 for a year or so.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 10:47 AM by antifire Highlight this comment 166

A link to an article in todays Strib

quote from the article about cost of attending a game at TF.

The Twins' average for Season Two at Target Field represents a 5 percent increase from the average for the inaugural season.

The survey also looked at a host of other expenses associated with going to games, such as concessions, souvenirs and parking. Under the umbrella term Fan Cost Index (FCI), a group of four attending a Twins game can expect to spend $213.16 at a game (ranking 10th overall and up 3 percent vs. 2010), the survey determined. That total covers four tickets, two small draft beers, four small sodas, four regular hot dogs, parking for one vehicle and two inexpensive caps.

Boston's FCI is tops ($339.01), with the Yankees just 69 cents behind. The lowest FCI belongs to Arizona ($120.96).

Among the FCI items, the Twins had the third-highest beer price at $7, with Boston ($7.25) and Toronto ($7.05 U.S.) close behind.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 11:44 AM by minn55441 Highlight this comment 167

Interesting information minn55441! It's definitely not cheap taking a family of four to a ballgame these days.

I don't think a lot of people realize you are allowed to bring in food and bottled water. I am sure you can sneak some candy and stuff in as well for the kids. You can also bring in bags of peanuts and sunflower seeds too. Another good deal is the $5 kettle corn sold on the plaza, which is a good snack for a decent price.

We usually stop at Subway or Jimmy Johns on the way and will either carry it in to the ballpark or find a place out on Target Plaza to sit down and eat. Sometimes I will even bring a couple of cold beers along and drink those out on the plaza before the game.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 12:02 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 168

The Jimmy Johns in Block E is the way to go before going in. I've thought about getting Pancheros and bringing that in too but have never done it.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 12:03 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 169

Another baseball season, another string of phone calls and emails to the great people at DISH network. I wish my father - in - law didn't work for them so we could switch to DirecTV! They did offer me free Cinemax to make up for the game not being on last night. I told them they could offer me 500 movie channels and I wouldn;t care - I want the Twins games on!

On a more positive note - huge comeback win last night. My 8th grade baseball team was down 3-0 and ended up winning 9-3. (oh yeah, the Twins had a nice comeback win too ;)

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 12:14 PM by ole Highlight this comment 170

Jared - lastest official BPM forecast? I'm going to the game Saturday night, so I'm selfishly more interested in that day. Everytime I check, the high for Saturday goes up! Hoping for no rain though..

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 12:45 PM by ole Highlight this comment 171

While at it, what about Sunday's forecast? Sounds as if rain will be gone by gametime, but who knows at this point. Right now it says 70% chance of rain. Thanks in advance Jared!

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 12:58 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 172

Adam Dunn had an emergency appendectomy last night. That might slow the Sox down for a week or two.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 1:05 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 173

I'm a little curious to see how street parking will work this year. Last year, most of the meters north of 2nd Ave N/Washington were free after 6pm for the first portion of the season, free on Saturday and Sunday all day. Then, the city came in and changed all the signage to say that meters ran 8am-10pm, Sunday-Saturday part way through the season.

The city THEN installed electric meter machines in the middle of the block, and changed the meter times back to 8am-6pm, M-F, Sat and Sundays free. So...I sort of lost where I was going with all this...

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 1:12 PM by Chad Highlight this comment 174

The current trend for Friday's forecast is that rain looks to be ending before 1 and appears to be light for anything that hits the ground during the morning hours. The sun starts to poke out and highs keep going up (mid 50s now) but we could be in the upper 50's if the sun decides to come out and play a little longer. This sounds pretty similar to last years forecast...

For Saturday's night game we are looking at a shot at some thunderstorms. The chance appears to be there all day but it looks right now the best initiation of storms will be around gametime or later.

The rain is expected to linger into Sunday and since its a 1pm start this looks to make for a wet gametime.

The forecast models are still disagreeing on the location of the system on Friday. Farther south and the rain potential diminishes entirely but farther north and the rain lasts till around gametime. Again, this is sounding very much like last years OD forecast. For Saturday and Sunday its not a matter 'if' (because of location) its a matter of 'when'. A trough in the jet stream looks to get deeper and it sounds like the models have been trending with big shifts 2-4 days out which would really impact rain initiation. We are just on the cusp of that and the next model run that may show a shift comes in about 4-5 hours from now. So for now expect to get wet at the games over the weekend and I will let you know of any big shifts.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM by Jared Highlight this comment 175

The meters are now $3 an hour are left running until a half-hour after game time ;)

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 2:02 PM by tk Highlight this comment 176

Last year around this time I had scoped out parking, but did not this year, as I assumed things would not change.

There are other back-up locations if not in the parking that is nearest 3rd and 4th street.

Click my name for parking map

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 2:10 PM by tk Highlight this comment 177

Looks like Killebrew will not be in attendance this weekend to throw out the first pitch. The trip appears to have too much implications on his treatment schedule and he had to reluctantly cancel.

This is sad news and I wish him and his family the very best. I was really looking forward to entering Gate 3, but I hope that the treatment continues to bring him a full recovery.

Click name for link.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 2:17 PM by tk Highlight this comment 178

Don't forget those 2 fer $2.00 dogs at the Holiday station a mere block away on the north side. They didn't put meters back there did they???

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 2:20 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 179

Oliva to throw first pitch on Fri, HK can't make the trip . . .

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 2:24 PM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 180

Oops! Sorry for the duplicate - forgot to hit 'refresh.'

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 2:25 PM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 181

You knew Twinkfan would put his plug in for the Holiday Gas station that he must have stock in.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 2:45 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 182

The Killer's sons will be manning his gate. Which one was the bank robber?

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 2:57 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 183

TwinkFan and that Holiday station have jumped the shark.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 3:02 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 184

PatMeares, I'm pushing the "like" button right now!

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 3:26 PM by Faber College Alum Highlight this comment 185

Today would be a lovely day for a home game!

I'm sitting here at work, got the radio on, got the window open behind me - and all I'm hearing is the possibility of no game tonight.

:-(

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 5:52 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 186

Aw c'mon, Badjuggler... we can't worry about what the White Sox do. The Twins shouldn't fear them, they should fear us! We've got the best one-two punch in the whole MLB with Mauer and Morneau, Delmon is a future all-star, Thome is the ageless wonder...and Nathan is back to mowing down batters! And don't even get me started about our grisly veterans Pavano, Baker and Blac ----

I'm sorry. I just can't do it.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 6:02 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 187

Well, I'll have to be the first to say it....

I can't believe how much they spent on the stadium and didn't put a roof on it! What were they thinking? Do they know how unpredictable the weather is, particularly in April. To say nothing of cold October playoff nights!

I mean, there was certainly a family from Connecticut that drove in and was probably greatly disappointed. I'm sure the New York Times will have a feature story on them on the front page.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 6:59 PM by Lincster Highlight this comment 188

Fake yankee stadium now has as many rain outs this week as Target Field has had in it's lifespan!

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 9:05 PM by jp Highlight this comment 189

very true jp.
so, i'm assuming it'll be a doubleheader tomorrow then, or will they make it up later in the year?
F_T_K, I concur, it would have been a terrific night at TF tonight.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 9:11 PM by luke Highlight this comment 190

No doubleheader tomorrow. Game to be rescheduled at a later date.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 9:15 PM by jp Highlight this comment 191

Liriano to get the start and Pavano to open TF 2011

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 9:16 PM by tk Highlight this comment 192

So, since Butera has to catch Pavano, Mauer will sit out the home opener, eh?

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 9:50 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 193

schweady,

Since Mauer was going to sit today, it is my guess it will be the same. Maybe Mauer will DH, but I would like to see Butera get the start, as it appears Pavano/Butera are good battery.

Posted on April 6, 2011 at 11:04 PM by tk Highlight this comment 194

First of all, it's great to see the countdown clock at just one day! It was tough back when it was in the 100+ day mark...can't wait to get to the ballpark tomorrow!

And think that of course Mauer will catch tomorrow. I don't think there's a chance that Gardy will sit the $184M MVP/all-star/hometown hero for the home opener.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 07:08 AM by fiesta Highlight this comment 195

Funny how Gardy seems to be the only one who thinks that the Pavano-Butera pairing is beneficial to the team, or set in stone. link to Souhan article...

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 07:36 AM by schweady Highlight this comment 196

Well ladies and gents, we have seen the first big model shift in the forecast provided yesterday. As expected within 2-4 days out the models made a big change in locations of storms which has affected timing. Rain has been all but eliminated from the forecast for tonight and tomorrow. There is a small wave of instability that will glide through before game time giving us cloudier skies and the best chance for rain, albeit a very weak chance if any at all. Am I repeating the forecast from last year? Sounds very familiar. But anyway that's the good news.

The not as good news is the Saturday/Sunday forecast is relatively the same. The models aren't agreeing well on timing but it appears the strength of the storms is increasing. Generally that means more severe type threats (lightning/hail) but less widespread over less time. In this case we will see rain a few shots of storms primarily between late Sat afternoon/evening and through the game Sunday. Pretty much the rest is the same. Highs forecasted a few degrees warmer as well.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 07:59 AM by Jared Highlight this comment 197

I brought my binoculars today, so I can clearly see the white "T" and red "C" behind home plate from my office in City Center. "Opening Day" over red, white and blue bunting painted on the grass along first and third. TF is looking great in the morning sunlight!

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 08:34 AM by buzz Highlight this comment 198

Is the webcam for TF gone for good?

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 08:44 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 199

I think Buzz just volunteered to host a new Target Field webcam!!

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 10:01 AM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 200

Not looking good for those of us with tickets to Sunday's game. We can only hope the rain stays away for Sunday afternoon, but its not looking good right now.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 10:01 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 201

yes it's gone and I don't know why the twins continue to have a link to a webcam on their site.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 10:06 AM by tim Highlight this comment 202

What time are you guys all getting downtown tomorrow at?

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 10:07 AM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 203

DSP just tweeted that the flags atop of the RF scoreboard will be used to display division standings, using flags. Pretty cool if you ask me.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 11:08 AM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 204

^^Wrigley Field does the same....anyone know of any other ballparks that use flags for division standings?

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 11:24 AM by Fred Highlight this comment 205

Mauer out on umpire negligence. Why the H didn't he ask to see the ball? Scared of showing up the Skanks, I guess.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 12:18 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 206

there we go... make-up K call on Pissada.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 207

View of TF from CC update: AL pennant with eagle flying on new right field pole (closest to center). Two people are walking around in the stands methodically (one with red shirt, other with white). Wind veil is getting cleaned or maintained for second day in a row. One ticket window open. Infield dirt watered daily. Grass freshly cut today.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 1:02 PM by buzz Highlight this comment 208

Anyone else annoyed that Home Opener comes during The Masters?

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 1:07 PM by Duffman Highlight this comment 209

Duffman: Nope!

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 1:11 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 210

Annoyed? No...awesome? Yes.

Get to go drink and celebrate Home Opener tomorrow and then lay around all Saturday and watch golf before it is time to head back down to Target Field.

Masters party Sunday. Boom.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 1:21 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 211

Too many pitches, too many walks, not enough innings from Liriano. This will be, I believe, the rule rather than the exception. I was hoping he would turn into an ace, but I just don't see it happening. I'm not sure he would even be a realiable number two on a lot of clubs.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 1:51 PM by Another Rick Highlight this comment 212

They got the grass cut in the old checkeboard pattern I hope?

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 1:54 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 213

Yep, checkerboard pattern.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 2:12 PM by buzz Highlight this comment 214

Liriano continues to struggle with high pitch counts and long innings...no rhythmn whatsoever when he is on the mound. It could be a long season ahead of us if the starting pitching does not improve.

Hopefully Pavano can get things going tomorrow with a nice 7 or 8 inning performance to open the home schedule.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 2:18 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 215

I have been waiting for the countdown to eliminate the days and only show hours, minutes and seconds for months!!!!

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 3:27 PM by tk Highlight this comment 216

So if Nishioka is out for the rest of the season, are we stuck with Tolbert and Casilla?

Let's just hope Nishioka's injury is not as bad as it looks...

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 3:37 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 217

broken fibula it is for Nishioka

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 3:54 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 218

Clean slide???

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 3:55 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 219

Welcome to the major leagues, Nishi. :-(

Hope he comes back strong.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 3:58 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 220

In my opinion, No. Intentionally late slide far to infield side. You can see Swisher change direction right before the slide. Only legal because he was apparently able to reach for the bag.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 4:00 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 221

Isn't it true that, in the long run, a broken fibula isn't as bad as some sort of knee injury?

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 4:13 PM by Rick 222

Fibula isn't that bad, but still not good. Will Gardy move Mauer to 2 and bat Hughes 8th now?

Nishioka was batting .208 at the time of the injury. I know he would get that up, but how much?

Hughes is about a lock to bat .250 with a lot more pop and a low OBP. Over a 6 week period how many runs does he cost us?

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 4:22 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 223

so how is that so-so acquisition working out for you bill "i am too fat for my own good" smith and gardenhire? you turds got a whole one week out of him for $10 million. sheesh!

p.s. nick swisher is a meathead idiot.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 4:23 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 224

It also is important to know if there was any displacement.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 4:25 PM by tk Highlight this comment 225

Displacement? I don't know anything about the injury other than what has been quoted, but I hope it heals fast.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 4:39 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 226

Maybe some day you can post a full-body photo of yourself here, Beta, so we can see just what kind of physically perfect Adonis you are. We got the point along time ago. You think Bill Smith is fat. Can you please move on, now?

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 4:51 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 227

By displacement, I meant if it was a clean break or displaced.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 6:29 PM by tk Highlight this comment 228

Beta--

Isn't it crazy that stupid, fat DSP knew that Nishioka was going to break his fibula, and he still signed him? What was he thinking?!

FCOL!

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 7:18 PM by Chad Highlight this comment 229

Looks like the Twins are going to keep releasing tickets and keep releasing tickets and.....

I am wondering if they not only held back tickets from the pre/public sale to slowly release to see how that would impact the secondary market.

StubHub prices never were too high for the Home Opener and it is actually cheaper right now to buy a pair of HPB on StubHub than from the Twins.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 8:31 PM by tk Highlight this comment 230

In my humble opinion, Mauer is more of a #2 hitter anyway and should be hitting in that spot anyway!

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 8:39 PM by Ole Highlight this comment 231

PatMeares- i plan to get to the bars around noonish

I'm thinking Nishi will be out maybe a month, but I'm not doctor i don't know (even if i am Indian haha)

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 9:15 PM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 232

I hope that when Nishi returns he get get some time at AAA and I hope that Hughes makes the most of his opportunity!

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 9:19 PM by tk Highlight this comment 233

1st "get" = can

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 9:20 PM by tk Highlight this comment 234

I agree, hopefully Hughes makes the most of this opprotunity, then when Nishioka comes back, Casilla can finally disappear for good.

Posted on April 7, 2011 at 11:58 PM by Duffman Highlight this comment 235

Looks like nice weather for today ...

Posted on April 8, 2011 at 07:14 AM by Jfh Highlight this comment 236

Anyone have the actual schedule of pre-game events?

Posted on April 8, 2011 at 07:15 AM by Jfh Highlight this comment 237

Nishi got a tremendous ovation today.

Really nice to see the bats come alive in the 8th. I was going to be very upset if we had lost 1-0 because of Sloppy little league play in the first inning.

Posted on April 8, 2011 at 8:00 PM by Jfh Highlight this comment 238


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Storage tracks in the foreground.



Inexplicable bright yellow baseball amid the trees.



Here's a correction: The LRT platform will actually be able to load outbound trains from both sides.



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Nearby, workers are finishing a support column. The guy at the bottom is using some sort of personal dirt mover (inset). Very cool.


















Here's the barricade in context at the end of the walkway



The base of the old Met Stadium flagpole. (The plaque refers to the "Flame of Freedom" and not the origin of the pole.)



As mentioned earlier, one of the best climate-controlled views of construction is from the 7th floor elevator lobby in the A ramp. (That's Noah getting his first glimpse of the new ballpark.)



The admin building (note TF logo on banner)



Trees now line Seventh Street



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Another view of the escalator, which apparently comes preassembled!



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Overview of the storage tracks.






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Nine spots for hops bats.


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