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Opening Day 2013

April 3, 2013 2:50 AM

Bases loaded with Twins

Late Monday afternoon I found myself standing almost alone at the very top of Target Field, in the last row of section 305, cheering at the top of my refrigerated lungs for something -- anything -- good to happen with one out and the bases loaded with Twins. I don't have to tell you how that turned out.

Then I grabbed an elevator down to the main concourse, proceeded to and through the First Base Lounge, and stepped out again into the frigidity only to find -- you guessed it -- the bases loaded with Tigers. How quickly fortunes change.

Bewildered, I asked an usher what had happened. She rolled her eyes and spoke with great efficiency: "A hit. Two walks. One intentional."

But I have to say that keeping that game that close for that long is what I'll take away from yesterday afternoon. Well, that and a chill that was still emanating from somewhere deep within me nearly 24 hours, and a couple of very hot showers, later.

(That paragraph is dedicated to the college professor who tried to convince me that the word "that" could be forever stricken from my vocabulary -- that it served no useful purpose. Imagine that!)

In addition to seeing that our boys could hold their own against the odds-makers favorites, there were so many other things to see yesterday that it's nearly impossible to know where to begin. So I'm going to jump in with no real rhyme or reason (something various other authority figures have also tried to teach me to avoid).

What's Missing Here?

Perhaps the first thing I noticed was that the ballpark looked a little spare. Lots of carts that I'd come to expect in certain places were simply not to be found. Whether this represents a concession to the realities of early-April concessions or a new frugality remains to be seen. But frugality leapt to mind when the Hairy Star-Spangled Banner Dude lingered on the word "glare" and no glare appeared. (My camera was poised, this being the first time I actually remembered it was going to happen with enough time to frame a proper shot.) Maybe it was just technical difficulties. (Edit: Apparently, this was a one-time thing, intended not to spook the eagles who were participating in the ceremony.)

One elevator ride and a few steps later...

Spareness would become a theme as the innings passed and the crowd either dwindled or just moved indoors. As predicted, sunshine was at a premium. When I looked out at the park from behind the Skyline Deck in the 8th inning, the main grandstand (now fully in the shade) was very sparsely populated, while everything in the outfield was still relatively full.

For a time, I sat in the Home Run Terrace with my back against the wall and simply basked in the pleasant warmth of the sun. A slight breeze could still be felt, but it was probably the most comfortable seat I sat in all day. And it was considerably better than the standing room right above it, where my face was nice and toasty while my ears were lashed by a brutal wind from behind.

Target Field, if nothing else, exhibited a wide variety of personalities yesterday. But I stand by my original hunch that there was something for everyone. Some people huddled in blankets or wore the serious winter gear, while others stayed cozy by the fire. Some examples:

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Slideshow: BeingThere

For my part, I tried to get as wide a variety of experiences as possible. Ultimately, I spent about half the game outdoors, and the other half split between various indoor and otherwise climate-improved options (including, yes, the french fry lights, and at least one restroom that felt like a sauna). I can attest to the fact that, in the shade, the cold was brutal. In the upper decks, wind burn on the face was a real possibility. Unprotected ears anywhere (rare as they were) probably risked a touch of frostbite.

Special thanks to Kevin Smith and Chris Iles, seen here with Clyde Doeppner, for making my coverage of opening day possible.

And though there were a surprisingly large number of chairs filled in the early innings (officially, the game was a sell out), the population ultimately seemed to be even more nomadic than we've come to expect at TF. The bar area behind the Skyline Deck (the former Captain Morgan's) steadily grew in popularity throughout the game, unlike the Two Gingers Pubs which were packed from first pitch to last (with the temperature inside likely in the mid-80s because of all the body heat).

Plenty of people took the "shark" approach and simply never stopped moving. I saw two fellows in a brightly colored suits (not intended for outdoor winter wear, I should say), making brisk laps around the ballpark. They may have been fashion orphans, but their temperature management strategy appeared to be widely-shared.

Were You There?

As I saw such a large number of people experiencing the game from climate-controlled areas with no direct view of the field, I had something of an existential crisis. I mean, if something amazing happens out there, some sort of MLB history gets made, and you are watching it from inside a club on a flat panel screen -- the exact same way people at home would see it -- can you really claim later that you were "there" when it happened? Where do you have to be in relation to the action to really be able to claim you were "there"? What does it even mean to be "there" if you don't have to be there? Is just being nearby or in the same building enough?

Will we tell our grandchildren something like this: "Sonny, I was there the day Joe Mauer got his 2000th hit. I saw it right there on the screen while I was waiting in line for a Walk-a-Taco!"

Sharks, I suppose

I'll never forget the day Prince Fielder hit an inside-the-park home run back at the Metrodome. (I know it seems implausible, but it actually happened.) Well, I was in the ballpark that day, but had run to the restroom when it happened. I was "there" but not there. Or was I?

It was that thought which propelled me out into the cold -- to see the game, through my own eyes instead of some camera's eye, and feel the same air that the players were feeling, and to somehow own the memory just a little more deeply (as much as I can, given the certainty that I'll someday misremember it even better than I actually remember it today -- if you didn't read my previous post, I realize that won't make much sense).

It's a subject worth considering, I think, and became the theme of my thinking while walking around on Opening Day 2013. (When you're on your own, in the cold, with only a camera and the occasional short conversation with a stranger, the mind can do weird things.)

But here's the upshot: By asking the question about what it meant to be there, I was somehow able to more fully do it. The cold just became an ingredient in the soup of being alive and doing something I love: watching baseball. Both the place and the game felt like home, and I was returning. Our long winter has the potential to turn into a long summer, but on opening day, especially when your team makes a game of what might have become a blowout, does it matter? Worrying about tomorrow is another way of not being there. It had to be let go.

Al Newman, pre-game

By not being somewhere else, and not being nowhere, I (and all of us) could be there to revel once again in the renewal of this great cycle. The earth has reached that point in its orbit again, and I'll be damned if this isn't the perfect way for 40,000 bags of stardust to engage the mystery of their own incarnation. Even if they wouldn't call it that. Or give it a second thought. Or something like that. (Oh no, it's that again.)

Last night I squished a tiny moth that was fluttering around our bedroom. These things basically turn to dust when swatted and you can just blow away what's left of them. "They're just dust flying around," I said to Vic.

Then I caught myself. "Of course, I suppose the same is true for us. We're just dust walking around, right?" That was me at the game. Dust, walking around, smiling. Alive. There.

The Voices of Dust

As I wandered through the day, I caught some familiar faces: Al Newman and Frank Quilici (eating in the Metropolitan Club -- not together, though it makes me wonder what they might talk about), Bert Blyleven (opening Gate 3), Tony Oliva (of course; I shook his hand), various Pohlads, Dave St. Peter, Clyde Doeppner, and Kent Hrbek (enjoying a pre-game brew at an awesome tailgating party).

I also heard a couple of quotes which stuck with me:

"Solamente pizza aqui!" -- From an exasperated chef in the Carew lounge as he opened a heated drawer and unexpectedly found tortillas.

"We're still waiting for security in section 109 for a possible ejection." -- Overheard on a security guard's radio. (Indeed, by chance I was walking that direction and saw the dude get tossed. Somehow I had pictured Hairy SSB Dude, but it wasn't him.)

But the best quote of the day came from my seven-year-old, who caught me off guard just a few moments after I woke up: "Dad, who are the Twins playing today?"

I felt like saying, "Who cares? They're playing!" but replied instead, "It's Torii Hunter and the Tigers today."

My four-year-old jumped on the bandwagon with the enthusiasm I felt inside, "This is gonna be a great day!"

It sure was. And I was there.


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That last photo from Sec 311 just doesn't look right without the flyover.Why aren't they doing those anymore?

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 06:40 AM by luke Highlight this comment 1

Luke, The flyover was cancelled due to the sequester and automatic spending cuts.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 08:49 AM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 2

Rick, DSP said that there were no fireworks yesterday because they "couldn't spook the eagles." Said it was a one time thing. They should be back for today's anthem.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 08:56 AM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 3

One of the few criticisms I have had of TF is that the seats (except for the luxury areas) are too narrow, i.e. they are Metrodome-sized. That flaw was more prominent Monday because everyone was bundled up in winter clothes. Still in all it was a good day.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 08:59 AM by terry Highlight this comment 4

Thanks, Mike. I updated the post to reflect that info.

Terry, where were you sitting? I've found that seat width varies so widely that it's hard to draw any general conclusions. Some of the cheapest seats are also some of the widest, and some of the more expensive (especially the Skyline Deck) are the stingiest.

There's no question that adding a few layers will certainly amplify the discomfort in those skinny seats...

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 09:47 AM by Rick 5

Rick- I think the terrace level seats are too close together, but down the lines in the lower bowl the seats are fine. Your assessment of the skyline decks does not jibe with what I think. The seats in the skyline deck are not too close together and I sit there almost every game. Also I think at 23 dollars the skyline deck seats are the best value seats in the park year after year.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 10:16 AM by Tom D. Highlight this comment 6

That's interesting, Tom, and I think it may actually go toward my initial point about variability.

The Syline Deck row and section I seem to always end up in (which I think is section S row 5) are among the skinniest seats I've ever experienced at TF. But it makes perfect sense that it wouldn't be true throughout the whole section -- just like upstairs in the View level.

But I agree wholeheartedly that, between the view and the price, the Skyline Deck is a great value.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 10:39 AM by Rick 7

At the time, I speculated the lack of rockets red glare was to not spook the eagles. Every so often I get one right.

In the RF grandstand, the seats were comfortable enough. because a couple in my group did not come (what!?!), a little extra space maybe helped the comfort level, too.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 11:23 AM by fiesta Highlight this comment 8

I was in 108. If some baled to one of the indoor spots it was OK, but if a row was pretty much full, people were squeezed. Look at the TagOramic photo on the Twins site and check out the rows that were full or nearly full. Again, I recognize that Monday was something of an abberation in that everyone was wearing multiple layers of clothes.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 11:36 AM by terry Highlight this comment 9

DO you have a link to that panoramic photo? (I don't think I sat still for the whole third inning, so I'm guessing I won't be visible...)

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 11:48 AM by Rick 10

Rick, Try this link. Outfield seats are not well represented.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 12:31 PM by fiesta Highlight this comment 11

In all a pretty lousy panoramic photo, if you ask me. The section I might have been in is just off to the right of the image, but that's neither here nor there. The image is kind of blurry, the colors washed out, and a gigantic chunk of the ballpark isn't even shown.

What happened to the old vendor? Gigapan, was it? The images were so much better.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 12:49 PM by Rick 12

Thanks CSG. I had forgotten about that.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 1:05 PM by luke Highlight this comment 13

So ---- the sequester put the kibosh on military training?

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 1:20 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 14

I don't think they were ever part of training. Instead it was done by aerial flight teams. Check out the link.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 2:34 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 15

Well after today we will be on schedule to win 0 games this year or 81. Looks like a much nicer day out today with calm winds and temps at least approaching 50. Be interesting to see what the crowd is today.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 3:04 PM by twinfan Highlight this comment 16

It looks empty on TV.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 3:37 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 17

Different subject, briefly: Rick Pitino to be next Rodent basketball coach.
Rick Pitino Jr that is.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 3:47 PM by luke Highlight this comment 18

Luke - Richard Pitino, not Rick Jr.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 4:39 PM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 19

Another interesting note from Monday: DSP stated on the radio that they decided not to sell SRO so that space could be freed up for people to be able to utilize the french fry lights. The Twins are always thinking of us fans aren't they? :)

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 4:49 PM by jared Highlight this comment 20

@LaVelleNeal: Tonight's attendance: 22,963

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 6:14 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 21

That's what I said Stevie. Richard Pitino is Rick Pitino's son. Rick is short for Richard. That's why I said Rick Pitino Jr.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 6:47 PM by luke Highlight this comment 22

I'm here to tell you that Rick is not always short for Richard...

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 7:00 PM by Rick 23

Just got back from the game not long ago and I can tell you it was cold pretty much the whole game. But it sure was worth it to tough it out because of the great finish. 2 days in a row of decent starting pitching-who'd of thunk it? Going to the game tomorrow as well- got free tickets. Hoping for another win. My 0 for 11 losing streak from last season is now over.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 7:39 PM by Tom D. Highlight this comment 24

You're not a Richard, Rick?
Tom, I can iagine. Yeah the therm was like 43 degrees when I left my downtown office at 3:30, but the wind was brutal. Sure didnt feel like 43.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 8:16 PM by luke Highlight this comment 25

I know two people whose given first name is "Ricky." We call them Rick, but that's not short for Richard. Also, one should never assume that the "JR." is a given. Richard Pitino has no Jr. at the end of his name.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 8:55 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 26


I believe that the Twins usually will only sell SRO tickets when they have sold out of regular tickets. So DSP might have been spinning his words a bit.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 9:47 PM by FD Highlight this comment 27

Luke's last post brought up something extremely troubling to me:

If Luke has an office downtown, chances are someone has an office next door to Luke's.

For the love of humanity!!

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 10:13 PM by Rube Highlight this comment 28

No standing room? Just how stupid does he think we are? There was maybe 15,000 there today. Lots of sections with no more than a dozen people in them. After the sixth entire sections empty.

Posted on April 3, 2013 at 10:57 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 29

Couldn't make the opener this year. But I'll be at the Rockies opener on Friday - forecast is 71 degrees. :)

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 12:21 AM by Jfh Highlight this comment 30

Rube...I have me a nice job. I WORK during the day. I don't sit in front of the telly watching reruns of Golden Girls.

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 06:01 AM by luke Highlight this comment 31

Posted a couple of other shots from the Great Clips section (thought I had more, apparently not) and a couple of a pair of Piranha diehards sitting in that section.

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 07:40 AM by jared Highlight this comment 32

Oh and if you are curious about the new Vikings Uniforms before they are released to the world, @Vikeologist is tweeting the clues.

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 09:09 AM by jared Highlight this comment 33

The only section that wasn't freezing cold yesterday was directly under the stand up to cancer sign. Hardly any wind and in the sun the whole game. The Surly booth((Twins Pub?) is in a great spot now, unfortunately the price went up 50 cents, and I'm pretty sure the size came down 4oz.

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 09:15 AM by Chad Highlight this comment 34

Twink win o meter surges to 81 wins. Nice job by all the #9 hitters! We even average 20,000 per game this month? What a horrific home schedule. I look at July with one weekend series with the tribe and only 9 games at home and then look at the April and Sept dates with 15 and 16 games? The boyz are gonna lose a lot of revenue this year with that schedule for sure!

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 09:22 AM by twinfan Highlight this comment 35

Jared/Vikeologist, awesome! Thanks! I was hoping I could find a way to see these without having to play the Vikings social media game.

Mauer catching a day game after a "night" game. Nice!

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 09:45 AM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 36

Dan Gladden is still in spring training mode - he just said "The starting lineups from Hammond Stadium"

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 12:10 PM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 37

On Monday Dickbert announced Mauer as the clean-up.

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 12:24 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 38

I checked out the visual clues for the Vikings' new uniforms and feel both impressed and disappointed. On one hand, the gold neck band/roll bar effect appears to have been eliminated, a welcome change. On the other hand, "Vikings" appears in gold lettering just beneath the neck and is absolutely out of place regardless of how the remainder of the jersey looks. The team had a chance to reinstate the classic look it's used as a throwback, but tossed that opportunity aside.

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 2:35 PM by Jorge Highlight this comment 39

Well it only took 3 games for the blue softball tops to make their first appearance of 2013...they only wore them 98 times last year out of 162 games. (41 home and 57 road).

I hope we see more of the home whites/throwbacks/road grays this year and less of the blue tops.

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 2:55 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 40

Jared, can you repost the link to your photos? Not seeing it on this thread. Thanks.

The new Great Clips Great Seats section in RF has numbered seats, so I am sure they will be sold during SRO and the playoffs (I just laughed when I wrote that).

This team may win 70 games. Eventually only scoring 3 runs per game will catch up with you. And the strong starting pitching won't last. They will come back to earth, and if there are SP injuries... look out.

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 3:02 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 41


Search "IceDavis" on Flickr.

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 3:09 PM by Chad Highlight this comment 42

Bats are working today! Hicks gets his 1st MLB hit in the 8th to drive in 2 more and the Twins have busted the game wide open. Great pitching from the starters and the bullpen to open this season against a (supposedly) big hitting Detroit team.

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 3:34 PM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 43

3 quality starts in a row! Twink win o meter soon to surge to 108! A real beatdown on the Tigers today.

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 3:40 PM by twinfan Highlight this comment 44

What a great way to start the season. Three good games, two good wins, strong pitching and one big inning.

This makes me much more excited about the 2013 season.

And as someone who usually watches the game on TV, after listening to these three games on the radio here at work I've decided I really like this Cory Provus kid!

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 3:51 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 45

First time we are over 500 since when? When was the last time we were over 500 anyways?

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 4:09 PM by twinfan Highlight this comment 46

@Twinfan - You have to go back to 2010.

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 5:03 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 47

Rick, I understand that you own the Old Met Stadium website. I was wondering if you'd be able to help me identify the section, row and seat of Harmon Killebrew's 520-to-530-foot home run at Metropolitan Stadium in 1967.

My research shows that the home run was believed to have landed in the 8th row of the left field upper deck. Based on an image I found, it looks like the ball landed four sections in from the far left if facing left field from home plate. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 6:45 PM by UBERFAN Highlight this comment 48

Hey, we only gave up 6 earned runs to the Tigers over 3 games. If someone had predicted that on 3/31 we all would have laughed. Nice job new pitchers (saying that because I don't really know their names yet)!

Posted on April 4, 2013 at 11:40 PM by Lincster Highlight this comment 49

anyone following the Viking stadium funding with regard to bonds and legislature looking to postpone sell until gambling funding shortfalls get figured out?

Posted on April 5, 2013 at 12:24 AM by tk Highlight this comment 50

I have 2 extra tickets for the Gophers at Siebert today (Friday) at 3:10. Section 3 Row A

Posted on April 5, 2013 at 12:30 AM by gogotwins Highlight this comment 51


I'm following very closely. Can't say that the deal is really in trouble yet, but the drums are beating...


I might be interested. If it's not raining, I hope to go to this game. (I was planning to buy a walk-up, assuming it would be possible because of weather concerns.)

Posted on April 5, 2013 at 12:36 AM by Rick 52

UBER- somewhere on that site I believe Rick has a seating chart of the Met.

Posted on April 5, 2013 at 05:44 AM by luke Highlight this comment 53

Thanks Luke. Unfortunately, the Old Met seating chart is of 1961, which is before the left field upper deck was constructed.

Posted on April 5, 2013 at 07:13 AM by UBERFAN Highlight this comment 54

As a weather geek and baseball geek, this isn't entirely new information (probably for all of you as well) but having an app predictor could make for some extra game day fun. Clicky the linky.

Posted on April 5, 2013 at 11:39 AM by jared Highlight this comment 55

App finally downloaded. Its a pretty simple one that gives HR potential on a scale of 0-10 (ten being the best conditions). It only takes into consideration weather conditions for a time and location you choose. This means it excludes pitcher, batter and ballpark dimensions, amongst other variables. Does leave the door wide open for further upgrades to include these variables, or potentially have the MLB app absorb their information into their own "predictors" should they ever include them.

Posted on April 5, 2013 at 11:46 AM by jared Highlight this comment 56

Twins Grounds Crew is replacing all the sod in the aforementioned "rough RF area"

Linked image is from their twitter.

Posted on April 5, 2013 at 3:24 PM by jared Highlight this comment 57

Hey Rick that pick of the centerfield drink rail... the guy with the grey Mauer jersey is my brother and i'm standing right next to him.

Posted on April 5, 2013 at 3:32 PM by moda253 Highlight this comment 58

You know UBER...shortly after I posted I thought that was the I couldn't remember. I have a book at home that had the Vikings seating chart in it, which might have the Section #. I can check and post if Rick doesn't beat me to

Posted on April 5, 2013 at 4:05 PM by luke Highlight this comment 59

It's a great spot to watch from!

Posted on April 5, 2013 at 4:06 PM by Rick 60

I'm just returning from watching the opening pitch at new Siebert Field. Anybody else go out today?

It was snowing both before and after the start of the game...

The ballpark, which I've sort of watched develop, is very minimalist, but definitely an improvement over what was there. From what I hear, though it's open, it isn't really finished yet. It will be finished in phases as the money is raised.

For example, there is one light standard, but certainly not enough to actually play a night game.

Posted on April 5, 2013 at 4:08 PM by Rick 61

Agreed Rick it's pretty much where I always end up

Posted on April 5, 2013 at 4:13 PM by moda253 Highlight this comment 62

So after one series they suddenly realized there was a problem in right field? I really don't get why they can't work on a long term solution to that. I'm not sure what it would be, different seed or artificial light?, but there must be one.

Posted on April 5, 2013 at 5:02 PM by jctwins Highlight this comment 63

Thanks Luke! That'd be awesome!

Posted on April 5, 2013 at 6:19 PM by UBERFAN Highlight this comment 64


Take a look at this image. Killebrew's homer landed in section 34 in the front of the upper deck left field pavilion. (In those days, section numbers could be repeated because your ticket stub also said which pavilion or deck you were in.)

Posted on April 5, 2013 at 9:26 PM by Rick 65

Uberfan - this was an image I found from the Encyclopedia of Football, circa 1975 maybe. It looks to me, it might have been around Sec 18 or 20. At least in this pic it looks that way. Hopefully - HOPEFULLY you will be able to see it. I'll test it out after I post.

Posted on April 5, 2013 at 9:34 PM by luke Highlight this comment 66

If you can't see the pic on my FB page, I also linked the photo to my Flickr (clicky). It's light...but I think you can still make it out.

Looks like the sections were even numbered from left to right starting with Sec 12.

Hope this helps!

Posted on April 5, 2013 at 9:40 PM by luke Highlight this comment 67

Luke, you have some very good photos of Target Field on your flickr site. You are a man of hidden talents.

Posted on April 6, 2013 at 07:42 AM by terry Highlight this comment 68

Thanks! Not the caliber of photos Jared has, or the ones Rick takes, but I try my best :).

Posted on April 6, 2013 at 08:59 AM by luke Highlight this comment 69

Thanks Luke and Rick! Rick, you've got some superb research skills. Section 34 makes sense since the document you found is dated 1968. Thanks again to both of you for helping!

Posted on April 6, 2013 at 11:09 AM by UBERFAN Highlight this comment 70

Just saw some snaps of the new Siebert Field on the Gophers Facebook page. Place looks pretty nice, vast improvement over the old one.

Posted on April 6, 2013 at 12:57 PM by luke Highlight this comment 71

Luke, your Vikings’ Met Stadium diagram is from their years prior to the construction of the left field pavilion. From 1961-1964, the east stands were assembled in left field once the Twins’ season was completed. Some of the components from the disassembled left field foul line seating were used to complete the temporary stands for the Vikings. Note the absence of the north stands in the diagram and the position of the field of play relative to the main grandstand. For some strange reason, the diagram you have was used in football publications until the Vikings moved to the Metrodome. Diagrams for the Vikings featuring the double-decked east sideline stands are as rare as do-do birds. Here’s a photo of what your diagram is referring to.

Posted on April 6, 2013 at 02:12 AM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 72

I wouldn't describe the new Siebert as a "vast" improvement. It's an improvement, but I was thoroughly underwhelmed. I'm trying to withhold judgement until some of the niceties have been added, realizing that it will take a few years.

(I have pictures, too. Coming tonight.)

Posted on April 6, 2013 at 1:26 PM by Rick 73

Oh crumb. Yeah, you're right Winona. Thought I might have had something there. But seeing your photo, you're righ

Posted on April 6, 2013 at 2:10 PM by luke Highlight this comment 74

*right. Damn tablet cant type.

Posted on April 6, 2013 at 2:10 PM by luke Highlight this comment 75

Not my photo, but found this photo of the grass at Dodger Stadium on Flickr, first game of 2013 season (clicky). Why can't Larry Boy do something like this at TF (of course, with our TC, not an LA)? Looks clean, crisp and downright nice.

Posted on April 6, 2013 at 3:29 PM by luke Highlight this comment 76

So am I understand right (and from Winona Mike's pic I think I am)...from 1961-64, they would deconstruct those rickety seats down the left field line and use them in part for the east side Vikings stands? That's what it looks like to me. Then the permanent east/outfield bleachers were added in 1965.

Does that mean that for September Vikings games they did not have anything on the east side for seating? Some of the early pictures look like there were always bleachers in the outfield, but Winona's picture clearly has them ON the baseball field. So just curious how they handled those September Vikings dates.

Cool pic!

Posted on April 6, 2013 at 3:52 PM by Lincster Highlight this comment 77

Now I'm all The photo linked is a photo I found of the actual home run. It looks like it would match the pic I had earlier, because of the entry portals at each section. And checking the Copyright dates of the book I found the diagram in, first print was 1970, and several more after that.

So, with the pic that Winona had of the aerial view of the Met - compared to the seating chart I had posted, which apparently was after 1970, where on that chart is the bank of seats in Winona's pic? Because I don't see entry portals in that pic. I'm curious NOW if those seats were totally deconstructed at some point after 1970?

I remember my grandpa used to talk about those bleachers shown in Winona's pic - how rickety they were. They would sway back and forth when people stood up after a touchdown. So, I'm confused It's been an interesting discussion though.

Can anyone confirm, is it true that the third deck at the Met was condemned by the county in it's final years?

Posted on April 6, 2013 at 4:27 PM by luke Highlight this comment 78

The left field pavilion was built in 1965.

Before 1965, temporary seats were constructed for football when it was possible. Many of the details about what was built and when appear lost to the sands of time. The photographic record shows that it did happen, and that they generally spanned the distance from the left field line into center field, but that's about it. I can't confirm that it was always the same configuration, or that it even happened every year, but I think that it did.

After 1965, the configuration of the park did not change significantly until it was torn down. There had been a plan to make the left field pavilion roll forward and backward so it could be brought up to the sideline for football, but that definitely did NOT happen. The Vikes paid for that pavilion, and such a feat of engineering would have been WAY out of their budget.

The third deck of the main grandstand was closed in the late years of the park, though it was not widely publicized at the time, making the exact date of closure hard to pinpoint. I can't recall that it was ever actually officially condemned by any governmental authority. Official condemnation generally requires that a structure be torn down, so I think it's unlikely.

It's certainly possible that the closure was due to unsafe conditions detected by an inspector. The place was in pretty bad shape. The Twins actually neglected the ballpark intentionally in order to make a stronger case for getting a replacement built. Thankfully, there are contractual clauses in place to prevent the team from doing the same thing down the road with Target Field.

Posted on April 6, 2013 at 4:47 PM by Rick 79

Here's a nice interactive diagram of the Met's configurations. Hover your cursor over the dates at the right to see the changes by date. (This is accurate as far as it goes, but may not be complete. In other words, there may have been additional configurations that Andrew has not documented.)

Posted on April 6, 2013 at 5:07 PM by Rick 80

If the third deck at Met Stadium was actually closed due to safety hazards, how did the Vikings manage to get around that and sell tickets up there?

As far as temporary seating goes, there were a number of other ballparks that saw construction of such seating occur after baseball season was concluded at that venue. Off the top of my head, I can say that this was the case at Fenway Park, Griffith Park, Shibe Park (Connie Mack Stadium), Wrigley Field, Sportsman’s Park (Later named Busch Stadium ) County Stadium in Milwaukee (back when the outfield seats were only bleachers click link), Municipal Stadium in Kansas City, and Mile High Stadium (previously known as Bears Stadium). Football teams, taking a back seat to their baseball landlords, had to get by with smaller revenues until such time as the baseball team was finished for the year.

Posted on April 6, 2013 at 10:18 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 81

I've read elsewhere about the third deck being condemned in the Met's final years, but I attended Vikings games regularly in those years and the third deck was always occupied. I also know the Bloomington building inspectors had for a number of years "condemned" the "temporary" bleachers along the 3d base line, but those seats were also always occupied. I'm speculating, but is it possible these "condemnations" were more findings of deficiency which did not rise to the level of actual shut down orders? Either way, Rick is correct that the teams purposely let the ballpark fall into disrepair.

Posted on April 7, 2013 at 07:06 AM by terry Highlight this comment 82

Was it so much to highlight the age and condition of the building to gain leverage with lawmakers, or did they simply stop putting money into the place knowing that the Metrodome would be open in a year or two?

Posted on April 7, 2013 at 07:18 AM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 83

I don't think it was for too long. I thought maybe just the last two seasons if not just THE last season. Wherever I had read it the reason cited was because of poor maintenance and that it was beyond repair.

Does anyone know what the actual football capacity was at the Met? That pic I had posted, just below it I thought the publishers had listed capacity at like 48,000 or something like that. Really small. Perhaps the smallest in the NFL at that time??

Posted on April 7, 2013 at 07:19 AM by luke Highlight this comment 84

My take is the ruling on the third deck being closed wasn't permanent. It likely happened after an inspection prior to Twins season with no one in a big hurry to make repairs due to the Twins not drawing well at the time, but ultimately fixing the broken railings (that was the issue) by Vikings season. The third deck was open to the end for the Vikes, closing it would have reduced the capacity beneath an acceptable level given demand. The official Vikings capacity at the Met by 1981 was 48,446, the smallest in the NFL by that point and the only stadium in the league with fewer than 50,000 seats.

Posted on April 7, 2013 at 1:59 PM by Jorge Highlight this comment 85

Just got home from seeing Gopher baseball at the new Siebert. I'll definitely be back a few times this season. That said, I would still be going to several games a year at the old one had the U not moved all games to the Dome.

Yes, Rick, it is underwhelming. The press box/concessions structure is very utilitarian with nothing dressing it up. I was surprised by the low slope of the main grandstand. Sat in SEction 1 right behind the plate (and three rows in front of Paul Molitor). Sightlines and the field itself are all fine. I was also surprised by the netting that stretched from the end of one dugout all the way around to the other. I guess at old Siebert they had chain link fences down the lines.

I'm curious about what will happen in left-center field. There is a chain link fence rather than the padded fences the rest of the way. A future patio seating area? I do miss the large shade trees that were over the LF fence. It was always nice to watch those leaf out as the spring progressed. The turf seemed to play fine, but another loss is just smelling the grass and the dirt. After a long winter, that was always welcome.

The other thing missing is any recognition of team history. Other than the new scoreboard (an imnprovement, though that's not saying much), there is little rah-rah maroon & gold, championship banners, retired numbers, etc. Given that they just tore down and rebuilt it in less than a year, all of that is likely to follow, I guess.

I was very happy to sit in the sun, feel the breeze and see a good ballgame. (Gophs won 1-0 on a solo HR by the 5-10 #9 hitting second baseman Skjefte.)

Posted on April 7, 2013 at 3:29 PM by fiesta Highlight this comment 86

One last Siebert comment/question: Since the infield, outfield and warning track are all the same "Mondo Turf," how do outfielders know they're on the warning track without a different "texture" underneath?

Posted on April 7, 2013 at 3:38 PM by fiesta Highlight this comment 87

Great day at the ballpark last Thursday for my first game of the year, made doubly-great by the fact that my sons (and a few hundred of their schoolmates) were singing the National Anthem! As all the kids were marching out to the "singing place" in center, it was entertaining to see a few startled jumps as they unknowingly passed by the bullpen, and were surprised by the loud THWACK of ball in catcher's mitt....

Unrelated - as a resident of St. Paul, I just received a flyer about an "alternate" design for the new Saints Park, floated a few weeks ago by a group of the stadium's future neighbors interested in preserving as many parking spaces as possible. Instead of demolishing the old Gillette factory, it proposes cutting a massive notch out of the building, into which the park would be wedged. The remainder of the still-standing factory would be used for parking, and to complete a "multi-use, year-round development unlike any."

Linked is MPRs Stadium Watch blog, with more info. Definitely a "unique" idea, but looks like it has a few problems, not the least of which is the design of the grandstands which dates from circa 1910, obstructed views and all. Coleman has personally shot this down and not surprisingly, will not be attending the public hearing about the proposal this Wednesday.

Posted on April 7, 2013 at 8:28 PM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 88

The Twins talk has been a little quiet. I am not sure if MLB.TV is giving me some false information, as I am away from MN, but it looks like it is showing the boys having a nice start to the season.

I know it is early and it is a long season, but it sure is nice to see them out of the gates with a home and away series win. This is the last thing I could have expected.

Why does the MN Twins always seem to play better when the expectations are low? Again, it is early, but this is the brand of baseball that is nice to watch again. Errors made, bad pitches thrown, but a team that comes together at the end to find a way to win.

Posted on April 7, 2013 at 11:48 PM by tk Highlight this comment 89

A year ago two runs late in the game would have been nothing more than individual stat building. In the first six games this year the team has been close enough that two late runs have the potential to get them a win.

Posted on April 8, 2013 at 07:27 AM by terry Highlight this comment 90

File this under "How Predictable". Some in the legislature are proposing "racino" as the answer to the Vikings stadium dilemna.

Impose a fair, reasonable and RELIABLE tax on people or businesses that will derive the most benefit from the Vikings being in downtown Minneapolis - as was done for TF. The contortions politicians go through to avoid imposing a tax, even for something like a Vikings stadium which most seem to want, is mind boggling.

Posted on April 8, 2013 at 11:14 AM by terry Highlight this comment 91

I'm not so sure the third deck of the main grandstand was ever permanently closed. I am pretty certain that I spent last Twins game I ever went to at the Met up there - specifically because I wanted to see the bucolic view out toward the river valley on a nice summer night.

Have liked high-level seats ever since, so I feel right at home in Skyline View.

Posted on April 8, 2013 at 3:28 PM by ClarkAddison Highlight this comment 92

Winter storm watch for up to 6 inches wed into Thursday! What will old Larry do now with the next home game on Friday??? Better turn that heat dial up to 11! Mercy what a horrific winter spring so far!

Posted on April 8, 2013 at 3:54 PM by twinfan Highlight this comment 93

I just saw the Winter Storm Watch. Yuck! I am going to the game on Saturday afternoon. I was hoping that I didn't have to bundle up as much as I did for the opener... There goes that idea.

Posted on April 8, 2013 at 4:43 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 94

I cannot believe they STILL insist it must snow. Hard to believe snow when the sun doesnt even set until 7:45.
Well, you wont hear the word "roof" from
And, I thought part of the Vikings legislation put a grinding halt on any racino talk? And now they might bring it up again?

Posted on April 8, 2013 at 7:31 PM by luke Highlight this comment 95

Well that watch is now a warning! I doubt they play on Friday. Wrong call Dahl saying it could be 6-8 inches by Thursday morning! Get the snowplows ready. Will the Twink offer fans to come in and shovel out the stands like the do at Lamebow field? Poor Larry!!

Posted on April 9, 2013 at 08:22 AM by twinfan Highlight this comment 96

Oh boy! If they cancel the Friday game I might try to pick up a ticket and do the doubleheader on Saturday. I highly doubt that would happen, but what if....

Twins just announced an "early entry permit" for sale that will allow access 45-min prior to normal opening. First 60 fans who go to the Target Field Box Office day of the game and drop $15 can get access to Twins BP. I wonder if that is on the field BP or just in the stands?

Posted on April 9, 2013 at 09:49 AM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 97

I doubt they would ever let many fans on Larry boys masterpiece! If they do cancel Friday I would imagine they would switch to a noon and 7pm day night doubleheader! Should be hopefully in the upper 50's or near 60 come May 31st. That's my first game! Meanwhile enjoy the winter weather!

Posted on April 9, 2013 at 10:01 AM by twinfan Highlight this comment 98

Canada sucks and so does it's weather systems. This is making me ornery.

Posted on April 9, 2013 at 11:11 AM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 99

15 bucks to watch the Twins take BP?? I'd suggest putting the money toward a trip to an away game to see your favorite players in the cage. It's been a very relaxed and intimate pre-game atmosphere in most of the out-of-town parks I've visited.

Posted on April 9, 2013 at 11:27 AM by schweady Highlight this comment 100

Early BP access: I agree...steep price for low reward. But, like the airlines, they're always looking for new revenue streams.

Posted on April 9, 2013 at 12:48 PM by fiesta Highlight this comment 101

If you are into that sort of thing, $15 is pretty reasonable. I've no doubt there will be demand because it's pretty easy to snag a ball (which I always seem to do without trying when I've been there that early).

Posted on April 9, 2013 at 12:54 PM by Rick 102

Well the old days they would open the gates up early and it was free. And that's the way it still should be!. How much earlier to the Twink take batting practice anyways? I prefer to arrive about the bottom of the 1st or top of the 2nd and am out the door most times after 7!

Posted on April 9, 2013 at 1:27 PM by twinfan Highlight this comment 103

Wow that's one ugly 3 day forecast for this weekend series. Sunday looks like a washout. This has got to kill em at the gate. Lets hope they can somehow play Friday snow or no snow!

Posted on April 9, 2013 at 1:42 PM by twinfan Highlight this comment 104

So, $15 to have a chance at a ball you can get at one of the BigMarts for $10, just because it was actually on an MLB field of play? Hey, I'm not knocking it (entirely), I get the draw of telling the tale or maybe having it autographed... But a lot of BP balls are marked in weird ways that make them less appealing anyway, so that can't be the whole thing. To me, it's more the I-get-to-be-up-close-and-personal atmosphere. And, I suppose that has a price nowadays. Sigh. I'm with twin(k)fan... at least the part of him that pines for the old days of greater access. (But I'm a 1-hour-early-and-stay-'til-the-last-out sort of guy.)

Posted on April 9, 2013 at 3:32 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 105

The ball that landed at my feet during BP on opening day had the hugest gouge I've ever seen in a baseball. And I have no idea who hit it (never can tell in BP). Still, when it lands at your feet, you pretty much have to pick it up.

Selling BP tickets seems like a natural progression to me. Eventually, I can imagine them selling tickets to the post-game press conference (which you can already watch through a glass window in places like Washington), the batting cages -- hell, why not charge to watch the grounds crew on off days? Some people love that.

In fact, I've always thought they were missing an opportunity by not selling cheap ($2) tickets to watch away games on the big scoreboard. Imagine doing that on a beautiful evening this July -- when it will be nigh on impossible to see the Twins actually play live at Target Field due to the schedule. I gotta believe you could find a couple thousand fans who would want to do that.

Posted on April 9, 2013 at 3:46 PM by Rick 106

$15 to watch old Larry boy screw up that field even more??? Maybe Larry need me to get on that mower to show him what a good field looks like! FCOL!

Posted on April 9, 2013 at 3:52 PM by twinfan Highlight this comment 107

The Twins just cancelled the BP thing. Oops.

Posted on April 9, 2013 at 4:24 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 108

There was an uproar on Twitter about them charging $15 for early entry and it seemed like the access was for the overlook. Where as other teams have BP access for more $ but it is on field behind the plate.

I look forward to my STH benefit of getting on the field for BP for "free"...

Posted on April 9, 2013 at 4:27 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 109

Here's the quote from Chris Iles:

My apologies as I sent a release out prematurely earlier today. The early entry program outlined in the release was not fully vetted across the Twins organization. To that end, please disregard the earlier release as the Minnesota Twins will not be offering an early entry program as stated earlier today. There will be no change in policy regarding gate opening times and season ticket holders will continue to be given early-access priority as part of the Sweet Spot program. On behalf of the Twins, we apologize for a lack of internal communication which led to the premature release of this misinformation.

So, wow, that's weird. And Iles basically fell on his sword, even though it's hard to imagine this was his mistake. In fact, I'd say the PR team as a whole has fallen on their sword, since they don't issue press releases unless someone within the organization tells them to -- especially things like this which have the potential to be rather high profile.

Somebody's in trouble, but I bet we'll never know who...

Posted on April 9, 2013 at 4:38 PM by Rick 110

Ok somebody help me out here since I never get to games early anyways. When does the home team take BP??? And when do the twins open the gates? I assume the gates are open when the visiting team is taking BP??? What's the freaking big deal in letting people into the park 2 hours early. Maybe they buy concessions anyways??? They don't want people wandering down near the field during BP? Curious to know what the polices are around the league.

Posted on April 9, 2013 at 4:54 PM by twinfan Highlight this comment 111

Twin...I was thinking about that today. IF I remember right, I thought the Twinks took BP like an hour before gates opened, even at The Other Place. The gates would open 90 minutes before first pitch, and that was when the opposing team took BP. Not sure if that changed once in TF because don't the gates open 2 hours before first pitch on the weekend games at TF?

Posted on April 9, 2013 at 5:24 PM by luke Highlight this comment 112

Schweady - I am not a true ballhawk but I know many and to them, the baseballs with the weird (non-field of play) markings are all the more interesting. Some have special logos (i.e. final season at the dome, first season at TF, opening day), special markings, team markings and all generally have an invisible (without blacklight) marking stamped at the manufacturer as part of their approval process that it is a good ball. There are a lot of cool stories out there about baseball markings. See: Zack Hample baseball ball-hawk blog.

Not to mention, many of the ballhawks donate money to charity for each ball they catch. Zack Hample does Pitch in for Baseball. One other person i am familiar with does that ALS one. My best friend does NAMI (we both, as well as my fiance, suffer from mental disorders) so we thought it appropriate to donate there.

Regarding the BP times: Working backwards (and from past experience);

visiting teams BP usually ends at 6:15pm for a night game. They usually are taking the field about the same time or barely just before gates open for the game. There is usually at least 10 minutes between teams hitting, most of the time a bit longer but it depends on if any Twins extend for a few extra cuts. The twins bat for about the same length of time as the visiting team, that I know of from the few experiences I have had seeing them take BP at TF. Occasionally the twins will linger at BP until after gates have opened, which usually pushes back the visiting team's time a bit, so it varies but these approximate times are pretty sound.

I think a $15 early entry fee is not a bad idea. KC does it for $10. Even if you are limited to sections like the overlook, there is still a large potential to nab some baseballs. We get there early enough for me to know. We never got to utilize our KC ones because of a hurricane lingering in the area, nearly raining out the game last season. But according to many friends that have used them, quite often this gives fans a better opportunity to watch BP. Especially if you are in a visiting stadium like KC, the Twins are MUCH MUCH more likely to sign autographs in an away stadium and with that early access you are even more likely to grab an autograph too. Apparently they will chat with fans much longer and generally have a better fan interaction.

We had on field access for BP at TF last year (snagged some pics, not sure if I posted them) and even that would have been worth some money to do once or twice a year, our passes were comped by our rep. We saw the majority of Twins BP and all of the White Sox BP from on the field behind the plate. It was the first game for Youkilis in the White Sox lineup after being moved. My buddy tony is a huge Robin Ventura fan. We chatted with Robin for a bit, got some autos and pics, chatted with some twins coaches and just enjoyed the experience. Being able to hear the discussion around the cage is pretty interesting too. Not to be nosy but one of those things that as a general fan, you never really get close enough to hear those things so you never really know what is said. The perspective and the speed of the ball is way different and gives you a greater respect for the game. Overall just a really cool experience.

Worth it every game? No but once or twice a year? Heck yeah.

Posted on April 9, 2013 at 6:19 PM by jared Highlight this comment 113

Wow now I see they are forecasting 8-12 inches. Good luck getting a game in Friday! Unless somehow Larry can crank the grass heat up to 80? Will they try the hoses to clear the seats and stands?

Posted on April 9, 2013 at 9:42 PM by twinfan Highlight this comment 114

As far as Iles falling on his sword, he also initially gave out the straight story on the Terry Leach bobblehead deal but was quickly shut up by the spinmeisters. Telling the truth is seriously frowned upon in the Twins organization.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 12:53 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 115

Gates open 1 1/2 hours before game time Mon-Thu and 2 hours before Fri-Sun games. Twins start BP 2 1/2 hours before game time, visiting teams 1 1/2 hours before. So if your there and enter right when gates open on the weekend you have a chance to see some of the Twins BP. You for sure will see the visiting team BP.

Given you have a chance to see the Twins and for sure the visiting team take BP for free, not sure why one would pay $15. If you get there early now, you still have a good chance to get a BP HR ball. Knowing where a hitter typically hits them out is key.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 01:58 AM by Dave Highlight this comment 116

Congrats to Torii Hunter on 2,000 career hits!

Congrats to Joe Nathan as well for 1,000 career saves!

Ironic that AJ Pierzysnki is now catching for Joe Nathan in Texas considering the Twins traded AJ for Joe ten years ago.

Will be interesting what happens with Friday night's game...the forecast for the upcoming homestand is not looking good at all.

That all-time low attendance mark of 22,000 at Target Field could very well be in jeopardy come Monday, Tuesday and/or Wednesday night. They will be lucky to draw 15,000 some of those nights. Of course, we will get the "tickets sold" spin from the team rather than the actual in-stadium attendance.

I can't say I miss my season tickets this year!! Very glad I did not renew.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 08:26 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 117

Nathan's save was #300.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 08:35 AM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 118

There was a fat kid that always used to hawk the BP balls in left field at the dome. It used to piss me off when he kept jumping in front of the little kids.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 08:58 AM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 119

Thanks for the correction F_T_K!

I knew it was #300, not sure why I wrote 1,000

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 09:12 AM by Mike (aka Mike) Highlight this comment 120

Ballhawks are interesting. It's a whole subculture of baseball fans.

I've followed Zack Hample for a few years, mainly just because he posts LOTS of pictures of the different stadiums. I love seeing what games are like from all over MLB. But it seems like he doesn't really watch the game. He is just there to get as many balls as possible. I know that over simplifies it, but still I can't imagine running all over.

I have been to TF on average 15x a year and I usually get there 15-20 min before 1st pitch. I do make an effort to get there when gates open once a year. Seeing BP is fun on a nice sunny day and it lets me really wander the whole stadium again. I am still finding new features and hidden corners in TF after 50+ games.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 09:19 AM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 121

CSG, what are some surprises you've found at TF lately?

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 10:20 AM by fiesta Highlight this comment 122

I just looked back through recent Zack Hample blog entries, and he has one from when he visited the Metrodome in September 1999. Paid attendance of 11,308 for the first game!


Posted on April 10, 2013 at 10:20 AM by Chad Highlight this comment 123

Went to a Cubs/Atlanta game this weekend in Atlanta. Their season ticket holders receive a 33% discount on food and beverage. Of course this doesn't include alcohol and some of the food places, but it is still a pretty good deal. They did the wave during the game which got me to thinking - Was the wave done at Target Field on opening day? We were there for the whole game, but may have missed it when we were by the elevators warming up. Just curious..

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 11:50 AM by gogotwins Highlight this comment 124

Fiesta, nothing yet this year. I was a little late on opening day and only had time to grab a beer, get down to my seats, anthem, 1st pitch!

Over the years, it was things like Hrbeks nachos beat the concession stand nachos, finding Sue upstairs playing the organ, different ways to access the LC, (my fav is using the stairs in the elevator lobby or directly from Ramp A. It's WAY easier than using the main entrances on either end of LC), etc.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 11:54 AM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 125

gogo, I don't think we did the wave on opening day. It may be harder to do this year with so many open seats. ZING!

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 11:54 AM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 126

Zack Hample is a rare breed of ballhawk though too. With over 6000 baseballs in his collection now it would seem as though he pays no attention to the game. But I encourage people to look through the many, many archived posts and read a bit deeper. Yes, the majority of his snags is an insignificant toss up or the random BP ball. But there have been many occasions such as this: There was one ball he grabbed in which I believe the circumstance was a home run ball for a Met that happened to be his first career hit. He knew right away and ended up being able to hand the ball to the guy after the game and asked for nothing in return. Obviously a game ball is fewer and further between than the BP ball, so the opportunities are less but from the posts I have read, it seems he has his head in the game way more than the average fan AND he ballhawks at the same time.

GoGoTwins - I was only away from my seat during OD twice for a short time each and I don't remember a wave during the game.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 12:01 PM by jared Highlight this comment 127

It was a wave-free opener. There is hope for us after all!

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 12:33 PM by fiesta Highlight this comment 128

Regarding the ST discount --- the DickBert spiel every broadcast states that ST customers will get a 10% discount on all food, beverage, and merchandise. Is that true?

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 12:43 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 129

I read Zack Hample's recent book a while back, and the guy is totally into the game, primarily because that's the best way to get a ball.

He knows, for example, which players tend to foul balls which direction and almost exactly where he has to stand if he wants to get one (he also recognizes certain pitcher-hitter combinations which are likely to result in balls hit to specific spots). He knows where to place himself as innings and games begin and end to maybe get a toss from a player or umpire. He knows when during the game -- based on the game situation -- he can hang out near the bullpen and have some hope of getting a toss as the guy warming up gets called in.

It's actually pretty astonishing just how much he knows about individual players and specific game situations. I came away from the book feeling like I don't see (or retain) 90% of what he sees.

That said, ballhawks are known to be big storytellers, and prone to exaggeration. Take that however you will.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 12:46 PM by Rick 130

Yes, the discount is true, if you show your little card (at selected locations, of course).

I got 60 cents off my pulled pork sandwich on opening day, but only because the order taker asked me if I had a card. Until then, I'd totally forgotten about it, and probably could have saved a few bucks earlier in the game.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 12:48 PM by Rick 131

Rick --- the operative word is "all".

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 12:53 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 132

Indeed, it at least does not apply to any food purchased in your seat. It would be highly deceptive to say that STHs get 10% off of "all" their food and drinks. Just plain not true.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM by Rick 133

For merchandise, the Sweet Spot discount applies only at the Majestic Twins Clubhouse Store, and does not apply at "Target Field Merchandise Outlets," whatever that means.

Linked is the complete breakdown of discounts...

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 1:02 PM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 134

I used my 10% discount on opening day, treating myself and three teenagers to walleye ruebens and Lucy Lucys in the Town Ball Tavern prior to the game. I think the card saved me 7-8 bucks before first pitch. Dang, I can't afford NOT to go to the ballpark now.

Sorely missed the Fulton Sweet Child of Vine in TBT. But they now have Summit Saga up there, which is pretty good.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 1:11 PM by ClarkAddison Highlight this comment 135

Anyone following this Vikings stadium financing saga? You just can't make this stuff up and only in Minnesota do we make such a stupid deal.

Now we are hearing racino proposals again, sports memorabilia taxes, and amongst other things, the state getting naming rights revenues.

If you want to tax Vikings and NFL-licensed merchandise, that is fine, but I don't want to have to pay for the Vikings stadium if I buy a Twins cap or a Wild sweater.

And as far as naming rights, the naming rights are worth nothing if not for the Vikings and the NFL. So the state thinks they can benefit from the Vikings stadium naming rights? They are in over their heads if they think the Vikings will agree to that deal.

This whole Vikings stadium deal has been a bad deal for everyone but the Vikings since day one and Minnesota should be embarrassed.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 1:13 PM by Mike (aka Mike) Highlight this comment 136

ClarkAddison - So you are telling us you spent $70 - $80 on food before the first pitch. Ouch.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 1:16 PM by gogotwins Highlight this comment 137

Cue twinfan with post about Holiday dogs in 3......2.....1......

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 1:22 PM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 138

"It would be highly deceptive to say that STHs get 10% off of "all" their food and drinks. Just plain not true."

So, just to be clear, the TV ad is a lie.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 1:32 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 139

The Vikings stadium saga probably couldn't get any weirder. I'm trying to write a new post about it, but it's just such a mess...

Bottom line is that it looks like they will start selling bonds in August whether there's financing to back them up or not. The buyers of those bonds will be assuming (and I think it's true) that they are backed by the full faith and credit of the state. This means that if the assigned revenue streams aren't enough, the general fund -- i.e. you and I -- will be on the hook for the difference.

The central figure here is once again Julie Rosen, who has managed to keep her name out of the press so far. But she's pulling all the strings and trying to keep the deal she crafted from blowing up. If anybody can do it, she probably can.

But blowing it up could be good for the project -- even if it would scare a lot of people first. Right now, however, it seems to be just throwing sh!t against the wall, and nothing appears to be sticking.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 1:36 PM by Rick 140

How the heck is Larry gonna get rid of 12-15 inches of snow by Friday is what I would like to know! That forecast looks worse every time I look at it! Yep the Holiday dogs are your best bet and value! Much better than the dogs they serve at TF and 1/4 of the price. I do use their condiments though!

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 1:58 PM by twinfan Highlight this comment 141

If that's exactly what the TV ad says then, yes, it's a lie.

But watch out for sneaky language. All of those blurbs have to pass through multiple levels of review (including legal). My guess is that it sounds like they are saying one thing but actually saying something else. In fact, legally speaking, this language could not be considered a lie:

"Season ticket holders now get 10% off all their food and beverages. Just show your card anywhere within Target Field that you see the special Season Ticket Holder discount sign."

Splitting hairs, I know. If it actually means something other than what it sounds like it means, it's deceptive. But that's the rule rather than the exception these days.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 2:12 PM by Rick 142

I'm just glad that the 10% applies to beer. :) Also, as of right now you can pass your card. On OD I never went to the concession stand. I passed my card to whoever was making the run up for drinks. It worked every time.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 2:17 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 143

Last night's game made me shudder as it brought back lots of bad memories of 2012. Lots of crooked numbers got put up in the 1st innings last year. The good news is we got to the 8th game before it happened. In 2012 it seemed like it was a nightly occurence.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 3:37 PM by terry Highlight this comment 144

Sadly, Terry, it has been a trend so far in 2013 as well. Twins pitching has given up 1st inning runs in 4 of 8 games so far and 10 runs total in the 1st. Total runs given up is 35, so 28.6%. They also gave up 3 in the 2nd on Sunday but held scoreless the rest of the way for a comeback win. That trend needs to diminish.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 3:54 PM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 145

Yeah, I guess you're right Steve, but until last night the first inning numbers were not so crooked that they had you reaching for the remote. 5 runs is what made last night feel like 2012 whereas 1 or 2 runs still leaves room for realistic hope, as some of this year's wins have shown.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 4:16 PM by terry Highlight this comment 146

That's for sure. Anything over 2 usually feels like a big inning, especially when the Twins struggle so often to push runs across. And when those 3 or more runs come without even the benefit of a home run it is easy to lose faith in the pitching and wonder how they can keep up in that game.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 4:22 PM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 147

Is it atill blasphemy to suggest Mauer's pitch selection in the beginning of games may have something to do with the early runs scored?

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 4:24 PM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 148

"If that's exactly what the TV ad says then, yes, it's a lie."

The ad as it appears on the screen and is read by DickBert:

"Purchase any of the Twins season ticket packages & receive 10% off all food, beverage & merchandise at Target Field."

So, maybe applies to new ST plan purchases only? Or, should ST holders be getting "dollar" hot dogs for 90 cents?

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 5:31 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 149

Vikings financing question: I thought the funding bill put an end to the racino talk? I thought there was some provision in the bill that put the kebash on the racino. Now they are bringing it up again?

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 5:34 PM by luke Highlight this comment 150

Kauffman turns 40 today! Wow! Linked is a pretty cool story about the development history. I knew about the proposed rolling roof to be shared with Arrowhead Stadium. I had no idea they almost built a combo dome. Cool stuff. I'm glad they built Kauffman and then renovated recently. It really is a beautiful park and a MUST do road trip for Twins fans.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 5:40 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 151


The funding sources which were dedicated to the Vikings Stadium are not generating enough money (by a wide margin). So the debate is open again on how to fund the state's contribution to the thing. Everyone is resurrecting old ideas hoping that they'll get another shot.

What's going to come out of this is anybody's guess.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 5:57 PM by Rick 152

I usually go to about 20 games. I probably drink an average of 1.5 beers a game. At about $8 each that's $240. With the discount I save $24 on those beers. That's about what I pay for my two seats for one of my games! If I pick up the pace and drink more, eventually all my tickets will be essentially free! Dang this thing just gets better the more I think about it.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 6:37 PM by ClarkAddison Highlight this comment 153

The game is only in the 3rd inning so perhaps he has a chance to help his own cause, but Aaron Hicks has been BRUTAL. Two for 32 so far. Two Ks tonight already, one with bases loaded and no outs. I know some of you have said "be patient" but I care more about hurting the team's chances over giving him a chance to grow in the big leagues. How long do you wait? Do you swap him and Florimon in the order? (Don't get me started on Florimon's porous defense.)

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 8:17 PM by TheTruthHurts Highlight this comment 154

Rick - I suppose so. Do you know how many bars/restaurants are doing the E-pull tabs (EPT is my acrostic)? Does each individual establishment have to purchase them, or are they distributed to ALL bars and restaurants eventually? I hope this little financial setback doesnt delay construction.

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 8:31 PM by luke Highlight this comment 155

I think Aaron Hicks needs to spend some time watching Joe Mauer take batting practice. Hicks seems like he's trying to pull the ball, and he'd do better working on getting some line drives to the opposite field before he tries pulling the ball.

I feel a whole lot less excited about this season with the team 4-5, than I did when they were 4-2. Being swept by KC is not a good sign of things to come.

Posted on April 11, 2013 at 08:36 AM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 156

Think they cancel or play tomorrow? Place you bets. Larry has to love that the totals were adjusted downward. I see the twins ground crew asking all employees to show up with shovels today! LOL! Merry Christmas everybody!

Posted on April 11, 2013 at 10:27 AM by twinfan Highlight this comment 157

I think they play. Really. There will be very few fans, but they will have the field ready and they'll play.

Posted on April 11, 2013 at 10:53 AM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 158

If its dry tomorrow night, they almost have to play regardless of the cold because Sunday's game is going to be rained out more than likely looking at the latest forecast.

And this is the only Mets visit to Target Field this year.

I can't imagine the players are too thrilled to look outside today. Coming off a 3-game sweep to the Royals and landing at MSP late last night in the midst of this snowstorm. Not to mention the cold and miserable forecast for the next 7 days.

A triple header on Saturday would probably be our best bet at this about a 11am, 3pm and 7pm triple-header??

Posted on April 11, 2013 at 11:04 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 159

You know, I might actually go out to a snowy game tomorrow night. It isn't on my calendar now, but it could be a very unique baseball experience...

Posted on April 11, 2013 at 11:17 AM by Rick 160

My wife attended a game in late April or early May of 2011 (I can't remember which) that featured cold temps and flurries. We treated the night more like the State Fair than a ballgame by arriving in the third inning and mostly wandering since it was too ugly to sit in the stands, sharing different specialty food items. We eventually grabbed empty seats in a lower left field handicap row so we could be under a heat lamp and then took off after the 7th inning stretch.

Posted on April 11, 2013 at 11:25 AM by Jorge Highlight this comment 161

By the way, my wife is Twins group game leader for the school she teaches at. The park not being so new anymore, expectation that the team won't be any good, and terrible weather for the group games in 2010, 2011, and 2012 have contributed to a substantially lower number of ticket requests. The sign up period hasn't ended yet, but it'll be a push to match turn out for any of the past three years. I imagine many other groups are facing similar challenges this season.

Posted on April 11, 2013 at 11:30 AM by Jorge Highlight this comment 162

Rick, I was thinking the same thing. OR if they postpone it, I will have tickets for the doubleheader on Saturday.

Posted on April 11, 2013 at 11:43 AM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 163

I'm suprised not to hear rumbling of a Block E casino to fund the State portion of the Vikings Stadium. It would make a lot more sense than e-pull tabs or any other BS ideas being thrown around. You would think the new owners of Block E would be licking their chops. They finally have the State in a position where it would be hard to say no.

Posted on April 11, 2013 at 4:15 PM by Jon Highlight this comment 164

On the 10% off deal, do know that you can stop by one of the season ticket service booths and get a nice one pager that shows all the places that take your card. It looks to me that it is all stands that have a cash register that can swipe the card. There are some stand alone kiosk stands that do not have registers. I think those are the ones that are excluded.

So, yes technically not every stand takes it, but I believe you can get every food and beverage item and get 10% just need to go to the right stand. Trust me, I now know where to get a Summit for $8.10 vs. $9 :)

Posted on April 11, 2013 at 8:35 PM by Lincster Highlight this comment 165

I think they'll play tomorrow. The fact that it is inter-league and rescheduling is already a nightmare, and with the threat of rain on Sunday means to me that they'll do everything possible to play.

I think I'll stay about 4 innings :)

Posted on April 11, 2013 at 8:41 PM by Lincster Highlight this comment 166

Rescheduling a nightmare? Try being an A.D. at any high school in Minnesota right about now. THAT'S a nightmare!

Posted on April 11, 2013 at 9:12 PM by antifire Highlight this comment 167

My 8th grade baseball team has been practicing for almost a month and have practiced outside one day and have had all four games postponed. (I'm giving the boys the day off tomorrow - not sure we can handle another day of being in the gym) I know our AD is about to throw in the towel!

Posted on April 11, 2013 at 10:20 PM by ole Highlight this comment 168

My prediction is we play Friday and Saturday as scheduled. No game can start before 3:10 on Saturday because of the exclusive FOX TV window. I doubt seriously the Twins would do a "true" doubleheader on Saturday and lose that extra game revenue. Sunday is the biggest question mark, and if they have to postpone, they will reschedule on a mutual off day when the Mets are traveling to the West coast.

Posted on April 11, 2013 at 11:35 PM by antifire Highlight this comment 169

We'll play today. Someone's gotta kick Old Man Winter in his shriveled nards, might as well be the Twins, ay?

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 06:07 AM by luke Highlight this comment 170

Three years ago today it was a beautiful 60+ degree sunny day to open Target Field against the Boston Red Sox! A special day that most Twins fans will never forget.

I just browsed both teams (Mets and Twins) schedules and I think Monday, August 19 is the only real possible make-up date. The Mets are at San Diego that Sunday and would fly back to New York on Sunday night. They could than stop in Minneapolis for a make-up game on Monday before hosting the Braves on Tuesday.

The Twins are at home against the ChiSox and than have a road game at Detroit on Tuesday so they could easily stay home an extra day than fly to Detroit following Monday's make-up game.

With that said, I am guessing they will make every effort to play all 3 games. They will play tonight as long as its dry. Sunday will be the bigger concern, and I hope the Twins do the fans a favor and call the game early enough so that fans do not have to travel to Target Field and sit in the rain to only have the game postponed.

This happened in 2011 on a Friday night in time was 7:10pm and they decided to call the game at 6:45 after most people were already there.

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 08:35 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 171

Mike, I was at that game in '11! It was VERY annoying. What else was bad about it was it moved from a Friday night game to a midweek noon game. I know rescheduling can be hard, but it was definitely not the game experience I paid for.

Only a 30% chance of more precip later today, I think they get it in. The grounds crew is doing an amazing job.

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 08:53 AM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 172

Cold and snow are not unheard of in April, but usually there are some warm and sunny days mixed in. Not so this year. The weather has been consistently horrendous for the last 6 or 7 weeks. 2010 was a charmed season; it seemed like every time the team was at home the weather was good and it only rained or got cold when the team was on the road.

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 11:31 AM by terry Highlight this comment 173

I do actually recall going to a game in MAY 2010 where it did snow a little bit. The game was May 6 2010 vs the O's. Next night, May 7 was actually called off because of the threat of more of the damn white stuff.
And Paul Douglas STILL insists global warming is scientific fact :/

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 12:46 PM by luke Highlight this comment 174

Look, Luke, I don't want to get into some extended discussion of global climate change with you. But if you want to comment on such current events, you need to at least do a little reading on the subject.

So, if you want to understand how uninformed you sound on this very complex issue, start with the two very current articles here and here. Be sure to read all the way to the end of each one.

And if these are too complex for you, keep yer yap shut about it. On this here blog, we prefer that all of our uninformed comments at least be about baseball.

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 1:41 PM by Rick 175

"This happened in 2011 on a Friday night in time was 7:10pm and they decided to call the game at 6:45 after most people were already there."

Sorry for your misery. I just have to smile. Every time this night is brought up it brings back memories of our anniversary dinner at The Capital Grille. (What a meal!) Having drinks and waiting for our table, a LOT of very wet, very upset people crowded in, looking for some relief from the rain and for anyone who would hear their tales of woe. In addition to their anger at the late announcement, I seem to remember many of them telling stories of a promotional item that some were given and others were turned away from collecting ?? To think that, earlier, I had been lamenting not being able to get tickets to that one... :)

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 2:16 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 176

Earth Day Cap --- the teams were going to be wearing green caps that game and caps were a promo as well.

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 3:14 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 177

Wonderful....the MASTER is now telling us what we can and cannot post now. Everyone has an opinion, just like everyone as an A-hole. Agree or disagree, but don't act like a Commie and try to censor. PS...don't believe everything you read or hear from one source. I could list just as many arguments against MAN-MADE global freezing or was it MAN-MADE global warming...Oh wait, it now has been changed to MAN-MADE global climate change. What is it going to be called in five years? Enjoy the game Twins fans.

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 6:50 PM by unknowntwinsfan Highlight this comment 178

Rick, are you really a "commie"? Heavens to Joe McCarthy!

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 7:22 PM by terry Highlight this comment 179

Decent articles, but still, it seemed to be mostly theory. Global warming "exacerbates" the problem. But neither article seemed to give verifiable proof that global warming is actually happening. It "exacerbates" already existing cyclical weather patterns. And yes, there is that damn Canada and their unmoving jet stream.

Verifiable proof is my thing. Mere conjecture and theory just doesnt work for me. Ok, the Bill Nye the Science Guy portion of our program is done now, back to

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 8:28 PM by luke Highlight this comment 180

The earth is flat. This theory about it being round is just conjecture. And if it is round, you can be sure the sun revolves around it - not the other way around. Those scientists - from Gallileo to Copernicus to the climate scientists - probably think a curve ball really curves too.

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 8:58 PM by terry Highlight this comment 181

Luke, I couldn’t care less what your stand on the whole climate change issue might be. My beef is that every time it gets cold for an upcoming Twins game, you post these same tired, lame remarks about global warming. No one here finds them clever or even humorous. Can you possibly put them to bed, please? Good God, enough’s enough already.

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 9:49 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 182

Rick, one of those links must have had a hidden link to a thesaurus for Luke's, aka, unknownTwinsfan, latest comment.

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 10:00 PM by tk Highlight this comment 183

Beer league softball jerseys (our others are too hot dammit) and a 10-2 deficit after two innings. These are the Twins we've all come to love.

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 10:01 PM by Raging Peasants Highlight this comment 184

Winona, go to bed.
Tk, IF i WAS unknownTwinsFan, the aka would have shown up in parantheses. Which it did not. Two different people. I am not smart enough to mess with the blog's algorithm. Winona, shut up.
Again, this isnt Bill Nye the Science Guy, back to baseball. I am, and always will be an evolutionist. Master Darwin is my personal idol. OK, enough science.

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 10:10 PM by luke Highlight this comment 185

Winona, go to bed.
Tk, IF i WAS unknownTwinsFan, the aka would have shown up in parantheses. Which it did not. Two different people. I am not smart enough to mess with the blog's algorithm. Winona, shut up.
Again, this isnt Bill Nye the Science Guy, back to baseball. I am, and always will be an evolutionist. Master Darwin is my personal idol. OK, enough science.

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 10:10 PM by luke Highlight this comment 186

Sorry, not sure why the double comment. Only meant the one.
Winona, again, shut up.

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 10:12 PM by luke Highlight this comment 187

So…if there are flurries for any other game this weekend, we can expect more of the same, Luke?
And what the hell does Bill Nye the Science Guy have to do with any of this?

And by the way, to whom it may concern, Rick can hardly be accused of censoring Luke. After all, his rather provocative post is here. Were Rick to have censored him, his post wouldn’t be here for us to read. Telling someone to shut up isn’t censorship, but not allowing them to be heard is is.

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 10:24 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 188

As your friendly moderator (which -- and you can look this up -- is different from a censor), I merely wanted to rescue Luke from the embarrassing appearance of total ignorance on a subject he chooses to raise with grating regularity. (Mission not accomplished.)

Frankly, I don't give a sh!t what anybody thinks about climate change. And even if I did, those who hear what they want to hear and do not understand the scientific method are beyond my help. (Maybe they might listen to Bill Nye the Science Guy.)

Now, being called a "commie" has a sort of kitschy retro-ignorance that cannot go unacknowledged. So, as a casual fan of all things Mid-Century Modern, I'll stand with the accused and wear the color -- but I won't name names!

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 11:17 PM by Rick 189

So...back to the Twins for a sec. Very little wind tonight until about the 5th inning made it warmer than Opening Day or last Wednesday IMO. That said, at 6:30 it looked almost like a light blizzard out there. I will say TF was totally clear of snow that I could see, and the field looked very playable. So credit to the grounds crew and the snow clearing help in the stands. No problems at all.

I also give credit to the Twins for putting out free coffee and hot chocolate, and refilling the containers all night long. People were lined up for this through the 7th inning (when I finally bailed), but it was a great gesture and especially parents with kids really appreciated it. Applause!

The other gesture was actively telling those seated in the upper deck that they could move to sections 126, 127, or 101 if they would like. While that was a nice thought and they told us earnestly, I'm not giving up a seat over home plate for section 101. No one else in my section moved either. When I got cold, I moved to shelter/heat lamps/and so forth.

I will say that I think this spring is the first real test of TF being able to reasonably function as a MN outdoor ballpark. My honest evaluation from tonight was that with 20K in the house, it works. There is enough shelter, enough heat lamps, and the ability to move around throughout the ballpark saves folks from feeling trapped in the cold wind somehow. If I ended up in cold/drafty spot, I could move and get warm and still see the game. I don't know if it works with 40K (I don't think so), but tonight people were still having a good time on a Friday night even with a cold bad ballgame.

Posted on April 12, 2013 at 11:33 PM by Lincster Highlight this comment 190

The reference to Bill Nye was simply referencing the light-hearted scientific discussion in the last couple posts :). Back to baseball.

Posted on April 13, 2013 at 05:50 AM by luke Highlight this comment 191

Lincster, Good on ya for going last night with the other 23,000 folks! Despite the horrid showing on the field, glad to know so many went out for it. I wonder if other towns would've even cracked 10,000.

On the global warming scale, check out the movie Chasing Ice. Visual proof that something is amiss.

Posted on April 13, 2013 at 08:50 AM by fiesta Highlight this comment 192

Thanks fiesta. I will have to check it out.

Posted on April 13, 2013 at 11:47 AM by luke Highlight this comment 193

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