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January 5, 2011 1:02 PM

Break out the machinery, because we need us a new gate at Target Field. (And get to work on that statue as well!)

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Click to see the whole page from this 1971 program.

Congratulations, Bert! It was worth the wait.

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Haha good work my friend!

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 1:03 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 1

Long overdue. Congratulations Bert!

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 1:03 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 2

This makes me so happy. Such a deserving guy.

Congratulations, Bert!

/cheer/

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 1:04 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 3

Well deserved and long overdue. Congrats, Bert!

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 1:12 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 4

Now to get TonyO in...

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 1:14 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 5

Bert DOES belong! Somebody needs to set his shoelaces on fire during his speech :)

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 1:19 PM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 6

LOL @ Stevie B's suggestion...

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 1:22 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 7

About time.

Think they will the play this video at the enshrining? (Click name)

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 1:45 PM by Duffman Highlight this comment 8

I have tickets to the July 24 Tigers-Twins game so I am hoping the Twins can play the induction ceremony on the main videoboard depending on the time of the induction ceremony. Or maybe change the time of the Tigers-Twins game to accomodate the fans, but that is highly unlikely given its a Sunday "getaway day"...

It will be nice to have another Minnesota Twin in Cooperstown!

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 2:19 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 9

Congatulations Bert! About time those writers get it right! Now just watch your language during the speech...it will be LIVE!

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 2:20 PM by Andrew Highlight this comment 10

"If Cooperstown is callin' it's no fluke ..."
"Talkin' Baseball" by Terry Cashman ca. 1981

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 2:29 PM by terry Highlight this comment 11

Time to retire #28,eh?

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 3:02 PM by fiesta Highlight this comment 12

"It will be nice to have another Minnesota Twin in Cooperstown!"

What, exactly, makes him a Minnesota Twin? He spent more than half his career elsewhere.

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 3:42 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 13

Circle me Bert!!!!!!!!LOL! Congrats to the Dutchman!!!!!

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 3:49 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 14

Ben 11 of those seasons with the Twins. 5 Clev, 3 Cal, 3 Pitts, 2 Tex. That makes him a Twin in my book!

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 3:57 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 15

There's speculation that he'll be going in as a Twin. And I could see that easily as he spent 11 years with the Twins and only five or fewer with each of the other four teams.

The majority of his K's, shutouts and complete games were with the Twins...and those three categories are a huge reason why he's going to the Hall.

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 3:58 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 16

He also gave everyone in the stadium the finger once - which is one of the reasons this took so long (being an insufferable jerk in the eyes of a great many sports writers being another). Don't get wrong (again) - I like Bert a lot, believe he deserves his "due", and personally find him a Twin. It's just another one of those pesky logic issues ----- .

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 4:17 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 17

"me" wrong ---

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 4:19 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 18

That's great news! But...what will he talk about during games after his birthday is over with?

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 5:43 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 19

Let's hope this ends the talk about it during broadcasts. It was getting really old.

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 5:55 PM by jctwins (aka jcoplanj@yahoo.com) Highlight this comment 20

I got 2 seats for the 3/10 &3/11 games red sox/blue jays... took about 20 mins in the virt room.. but i got it.. cant belive they charge 14 bucks to sit on the lawn though,

is anyone else gonna be there during those games? Luke if you send Jonie down i can show her a good time...

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 8:09 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 21

Here is a cool photo from TF

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 9:19 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 22

maz-

$14 for lawn seats is a crime. Most of the ballparks here charge $8, some are even as low as $5 for lawn seats.

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 9:33 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 23

The lawn is also very small and down the right field line. Other berms in the Grapefruit League are much larger with better views. I've had the best success buying tickets from the scalpers who hang out on the road in front of the stadium. Unless it's a night game, you can get seats close to the field under face value most of the time. Good tickets also seem to pop up on the Twins website from time to time. Spring Training is a great time and should be experienced at least once by every Twins fan.

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 10:31 PM by FD Highlight this comment 24

I just did some trip packages on Priceline, found some great deals for under $400/person for (flight, 5 days, 4 nights, plus car).

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 10:40 PM by tk Highlight this comment 25

"we are going to have to do this f-ing thing over again because i just f-ed it up. ohhhhh........we're live?"

classic!

Posted on January 5, 2011 at 10:43 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 26

Ben, He'll be asked two questions before official enshrinement.
1) What team does he want to represent in his HOF portrait?
and
2) would he like to go by Bert or, because it's a conventional induction ceremony and prestigious club, the more "logical" Rikalbert?

God I love the dutch

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 01:09 AM by N.D. (aka N.D. "Rube") Highlight this comment 27

Yay Bert! It's about time

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 06:59 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 28

Click my name for an article that includes an updated photo gallery of the Marlins' new whale of a stadium.
My God, it looks like the Jerry Jones Palace, only smaller.

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 07:18 AM by luke Highlight this comment 29

N.D. ---

Or, maybe his name at birth: Rik Aalbert Blijleven.

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 08:14 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 30

Has Bert already declared what team he will represent on his plaque?

Can't imagine it wouldn't be the Twins. Yes, spent most of his career here, but also broke into the majors with the Twins - a criteria previous HOF inductees seem to find important. Winfield spent more time with the Yankees than any other team, but was brought up by the Padres, and is enshrined as a Padre. (His stellar relationship with Steinbrenner notwithstanding)

Can't wait to see the "Circle Me Rikalbert" signs next year.

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 08:36 AM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 31

First of all he would be booed out of TF if he went into the hall under any other team than the Twins! So that is a no brainer. Just like Black Jack Morris should and will go in as Tiger!!

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 09:19 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 32

I suddenly feel like dropping my "c" in honor of the new HOFer!

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 09:22 AM by Rik (aka Rick) Highlight this comment 33

(Not really.)

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 09:22 AM by Rick 34

I miss the old thread.

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 09:29 AM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 35

Players aren't given the option anymore of what team they want on their hats. It was taken away after what's his face wanted to have a Rays hat on. Even last year Dawson wanted a Cubs logo, but the Hall said no and his plaque has an Expos hat on.

That being said, Bert's will be a Twins hat.

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 09:47 AM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 36

But on the subject of his cap, Bert's credentials as a Twin are considerably greater than with any other team. I think all of these have been mentioned. I'm just aggregating:

- came up with the Twins

- spent nine full and two partial seasons here (far more than anywhere else; second place: five seasons with Cleveland)

- one of his two ASG appearances as a Twin (other with Cleveland)

- won one of his two World Championships here (other with Pittsburgh)

- started 345 games for the Twins (tie for next closest: 103 each for Pittsburgh and Cleveland)

- pitched 2566 innings for the Twins (next closest: 760 for Cleveland)

- threw 2035 strikeouts as a Twin (next closest: 548 with Cleveland)

- got his 3000th strikeout as a Twin

- at one point requested a trade back to the Twins

- tried out for the Twins one last time before retiring

- has maintained a close relationship with the team (and fans) after retiring

- he is widely associated with the Twins more than any other team

Here are some potentially off-setting items, but they certainly don't reach critical mass:

- threw his no-hitter with the Rangers

- led the league in strikeouts/complete games in 1985, part of which was spent with Cleveland (remainder with the Twins)

- had his personal best overall ERA with the Rangers (2.74, next best: 3.23 with Cleveland)

- had his (arguably) most dominant season with the Rangers (1977)

- had his (arguably) least dominant season with the Twins (1988)

Looks pretty cut and dry to me.

My understanding of the cap selection process is that the HOF makes the decision on what cap the player wears, but that the player's wishes are considered, and it's somewhat rare that the two do not coincide.

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 10:09 AM by Rick 37

Hall has just announced the caps for each player...Bert = Twins cap, Alomar = Jays cap...first Jays cap in the hall.

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 10:22 AM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 38

Rick's opening is a bit tongue-in-cheek, but raises a fun question. Aside from retiring his number, will the team honor Blyleven in some more conspicuous way? A statue would make the most sense, since the other HoFers each have one.

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 10:37 AM by BR Highlight this comment 39

Anybody have 1 extra Twinsfest ticket? (Can be for a child.) Thanks

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 12:31 PM by Go Go Twins Highlight this comment 40

As expected, Twinfest 2011 is now sold out with the ticket sales being capped at 25,000.

Jerry Bell also announced his retirement this morning. Well deserved for Mr. Bell after all of those years fighting for the Twins' ballpark. Some very dark years in the mid to late 90's.

There was another front office person who resigned this fall too, can't remember his name, but I think it was Eric Curry (spelling?)

Also, according to my rep, the Budweiser Roof Deck is now sold out for the entire 2011 season...so there must be alot of group interest in that. There are also a very limited number of single game suites/event suites still available for select games. I never heard anything about Budweiser Roof Deck tickets available so that must be pretty much groups again this year.

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 12:42 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 41

Mike,

Do you know if the Roof Deck will still have single game tickets for Thursday and Saturday games or will it all be groups this year?

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 2:18 PM by Joe117 Highlight this comment 42

You know, of all the places I visited in Target Field during 2010 (and I hit just about everywhere at least once), I think the Bud Deck was the most overrated.

You can barely see any part of the game, most people wind up congregating at the corner closest to the field in a clump, trying to get a glimpse, and there's a whole lot of dead space behind the bar. The fire pit is a nice amenity but sort of pointless unless it's cold, and you cannot see even the tiniest blade of grass when you're standing next to it.

Rooftop bars seem to be all the rage now, and this one is just fine, but the cover charge (i.e. ticket price) is off the charts and what you get is a little underwhelming.

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 2:40 PM by Rick 43

Nothing was stated regarding single game tickets for the roof deck other than it was "sold out for the 2011 season"

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 3:07 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 44

I guess you don't go there to see, but to be seen.

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 4:09 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 45

"I guess you don't go there to see, but to be seen."

Go to a ballgame to be seen? Damn sad (just my two cents).

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 4:14 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 46

I'm not sure just who is going to see you up there.

I think you go there either just to hang out with your friends/coworkers/etc. (and maybe talk a little baseball while drinking) or you go there just to say you went there.

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 4:20 PM by Rick 47

Rick - I agree about the Bud Deck. I traipsed up there during the Open House last year, and I certainly wasn't impressed. If you're there to drink, be merry, mingle, then it's great. It's a great spot for like a career networking event or something, where between handing out business cards, you catch an at-bat or two.

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 4:34 PM by luke Highlight this comment 48

Typical crowd on a typical night:



Posted on January 6, 2011 at 4:43 PM by Rick 49

Rick's pics make me want to go start snowbanks on fire.

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 50

Just seeing those peeks of grass in Rick's roof deck photos (agreed: most overrated part of the ballpark) makes me yearn for ballgames here in the depth of winter.

It begs the question: single most favorite aspect of the park? As I type that, I realize how difficult it would be for me to distill my TF experiences of last year down to a single favorite. For me, though, I think it's just the ENERGY. I was happy any time I headed to the park. That enthusiasm wasn't as strong at the dome. Would there be things or people that irritated me at times? Sure, but that desire to be at the park was the #1 thing for me last year.

And, of course, it's already there this year, too. How about everyone else?

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 7:57 PM by fiesta Highlight this comment 51

I've heard that the Bud Deck will be available for single game ticket sales on Saturdays only this year - not Saturdays and Thursdays as last season.

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:33 PM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 52

I don't believe the Roof Deck is overrated. It serves its purpose as a big group private area. If you are going to watch the game would you want to sit there? No. But if you are an employer and you want to bring your employees for a group night out, I couldn't think of a better place in the city.

I will grant you that it probably could have been configured a bit better (mulitple tiers) so the crowding at the rail wasn't so bad, but chances are not everyone in the 150 people are going to be that interested in watching the whole game.

My favorite place in the ballpark has to be "The Captain's Deck." If you have a bunch of people attending the game, but were not able to get seats together, it is the perfect spot to get together and still watch the game.

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:38 PM by Duffman Highlight this comment 53

Duff - you are right on about the group hospitality attidude being great at the Bud Deck. However, you threw out the number of 150 people. The biggest problem with the Bud Deck is that there are seats for only 120 people, but they sell 250 tickets per game (130 are SRO). Most of that surplus hangs out either by the Fire Pit or the back bar, or they head to your favorite place, the Captain's Deck or the Town Ball Tavern.

Speaking of the Captain - does anyone know if he is scheduled to make an appearance this season along with his assistants?

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:50 PM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 54

Not to be contrarian, duffman, but there is a much more spectacular place for an employee group outing about 15 feet down and to the right -- namely the two megasuites they created just above the left field corner. Take the Bud Deck, add climate control, excellent views, and cushy seats, and you've got the megasuites.

That said, the Bud Deck does serve its purpose. And as long as everyone knows what to expect, I'm sure it can be a great time.

(Although, after I posted it, I noticed this detail from the above image:


Those girls are clearly not having a good time.)

But I think, for everyone who looks up and imagines some sort of Shangri-La or baseball nirvana, the myth needs to be dispelled. That's why I'm using the term "overrated".

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:59 PM by Rick 55

Rick - as always, you are right on. I would go one step further, and say that for the price, the Event Suites on the first base side are a little better deal and better view than the Skyline Suites (megasuites)

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 56

Good point. I forgot that those event suites are modular, so you can get as big or small a suite as you need, and the amenities are very similar (though they aren't quite as swanky).

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 9:15 PM by Rick 57

Fiesta - Thanks for making me think about what I liked about TF!   I loved walking over from work with other smiling fans, watching BP from the Overlook and then eating my sandwich while studying the lineups.  I liked listening to the national anthem and watching the fireworks while standing by the flagpoles.   I love watching the game from my 306 seats, the Batter's Eye and the Metropolitan Club drink rail. I love the color of the limestone, the grass, the dirt, the clouds, the sun, and the LED neon of Minnie & Paul.  I love seeing Kirby the kestrel snagging moths.  I like that I felt good walking out of TF, win or lose, because I spent time outside for an afternoon or evening with friends and neighbors. I liked how open and friendly everyone was having the joy of the moment in common. 

Posted on January 6, 2011 at 9:54 PM by Buzz Highlight this comment 58

The Twins FO needs to close the deal on Pavano and then move quickly on Jimmy.

Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:30 AM by TK Highlight this comment 59

Nobody wanted to buy those girls a beer?

Posted on January 7, 2011 at 01:20 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 60

And the Twins were even winning that game -- though I suppose they had no way to know it. Oh wait, they're seated facing almost directly toward the big scoreboard. They just had to look up. No excuses there.

Posted on January 7, 2011 at 01:23 AM by Rick 61

Two captions come to mind seeing that pic:

"Why are all these people around OUR bench"?
"When does the mall open anyway"?

Ben, apparently someone did, you notice the empty aluminum Bud Light bottle on the floor next to the blonde one?

Posted on January 7, 2011 at 06:58 AM by luke Highlight this comment 62

The only problem I have Rick with your picture with the two girls looking very bored. Is that you could take that picture on any given night with people sitting in even the best seats and you might be able to capture those same expressions.

I have not been up to the Bud Deck yet, but my Father-In-Law was up there during a game and came away very disappointed. He complained about not being to see much of the game. He also went in thinking there wasn't going to be a bad seat in the house at the ballpark.

On the other hand, my friend who was up in the Bud Deck during a game for a bachelor party and had a blast.

The Bud Deck is all about expectations. If you are going up there to wanting to watch and enjoy the game, then it probably won't be a great experience. If you are going up there to just hang out with friends, network, etc. then the Bud Deck serves its purpose perfectly.

I would like to see some other hang out areas on the roof deck. I think some nice comfy outdoor furniture on the other side of the bar area would be a nice addition. Maybe even a lawn bowling/bocce court up there might be fun. Heck even some outdoor pool tables, dart boards, etc. Make it more like a bar/pub atmosphere up there. You need to give people things to do up there that don't have views of the game.

Posted on January 7, 2011 at 08:09 AM by Jeff Highlight this comment 63

My favorite thing about Target Field is this: It's ours. :-)

(But if you're looking for a less hokey answer, I'll say my favorite thing is that the seats point towards 2nd base!)

Posted on January 7, 2011 at 08:35 AM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 64

Foxsports is reporting the twins are closing in on a 2 year deal for Pavano!

Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:11 AM by JoJo Highlight this comment 65

We HAVE TO sign Pavano!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:54 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 66

Favorite thing about TF? The combination of variety and quality. Lots of seating choices. Tons of food and drink options. Views galore.

Not every aspect is a home run - there are a few swings and misses, as have been noted in these posts. But the overall experience not only blows away what the Dome previously afforded us, it exceeds the expectations of most fans, and keeps us coming back for more.

That's a very good thing.

Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:50 AM by BR Highlight this comment 67

This from mlb.com:

And thanks to Wednesday's announcement, Twins followers will now take part in Blyleven's journey to July 24, 2011, when he will finally get inducted into the hallowed halls of Cooperstown.

"I think it will be fun for our fans to share this experience with Bert -- the anticipation of July 24, his work on his speech and of course all of the stories from the experience that he'll be able to share on the air," said Twins president Dave St. Peter. "I think it's going to be a very special season for the Twins and certainly a lot of fun to watch those telecasts."

St. Peter said that the Twins are planning to honor Blyleven's election to the Hall of Fame in the upcoming months, beginning with TwinsFest in late January, when the pitcher will make his first trip back to Minnesota since the announcement. St. Peter said there will also be consideration of whether to retire Blyleven's No. 28, which he wore for all 11 of his seasons with the Twins.
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Will be interesting to see whether or not #28 is hung up on the administration building this summer...

Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:21 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 68

I was just kidding about those girls, of course. But it does highlight the power of cropping. Here are some other selected scenes from the same image which tell very different stories. (You write the captions.)






I believe it's very important to know whether you can trust whoever edits the news you read or hear about. Last summer, the TV vans appeared on our street to cover a story. I recorded and then compared all of the broadcasts. There were four completely different stories told by the four stations, and none of them matched the one I heard when I talked to my neighbor (who was actually involved).

As for bad experiences at the ballpark, the worst one I had this year was when I got an email from a coworker just as I was getting comfortable in my seat. She was upset that I had rescheduled something so that I could go to the game. It essentially ruined the whole experience for me, but obviously had nothing to do with TF.

Contrast that with the game where I had seats on the aisle in row 10 of section 316. That was ruined because I had to bob and weave my head to see around railings and fans going up and down the stairs.

Happily, bad experiences were mere footnotes for me at TF in 2010. But I think my favorite aspect of the whole ballpark is how you can see into the place from three blocks away up Sixth Street.


Call that picture: "Baseball meets the rest of downtown and invites it in for a beer."

Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:53 PM by Rick 69

Now and then it's also fun to connect some dots which don't actually exist:


You just highlight this or that and blur a few things to allow a very neat -- and completely fabricated -- story to come into crisp focus.

That, by the way, is essentially the process which led the Strib to bestow upon Earl Santee a title tantamount to Godfather of Target Field.

Posted on January 7, 2011 at 1:26 PM by Rick 70

Not really Twins related anymore, but Matt Garza just got dealt again - to the Cubs.

Posted on January 7, 2011 at 1:54 PM by B Highlight this comment 71

Rick, you should PhotoShop the pic of the two girls and inset it into a pic from a Vikings game. As the caption, "We don't belong here"

Posted on January 7, 2011 at 6:20 PM by luke Highlight this comment 72

I can't believe how much Twinsfest tickets are going for.....

Posted on January 8, 2011 at 11:16 AM by Steve Highlight this comment 73

Steve I agree. It's also too bad that all those dollars aren't going to the Twins' Community Fund.

Posted on January 8, 2011 at 11:56 AM by Go Go Twins Highlight this comment 74

How much? And where?

Posted on January 8, 2011 at 11:57 AM by Rick 75

Ebay is getting 50 bucks a ticket..

Posted on January 8, 2011 at 12:18 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 76

Bear in mind that if there were no idiots there would be no eBay.

Posted on January 8, 2011 at 12:33 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 77

Looking through completed listings on eBay, I find the maximum actual sale at about $40 per adult ticket (and that was only a couple of actual sales). As late as Thursday, they were being sold at two for $40.

In other words, sanity has not been breached.

But it does suggest a strategy going forward, doesn't it? Not unlike the move from the Dome to TF, a smaller venue restricts supply, and good old demand takes care of the rest...

Posted on January 8, 2011 at 12:45 PM by Rick 78

If you notice/watch the ongoing auctions right now they will be selling for OVER the 2 for 40 you mention.

Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:51 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 79

How gratifying is it that we are now less than three months (89 days) away from the Home Opener at TF??
OMW's time is running down! Yes!

Posted on January 9, 2011 at 08:28 AM by luke Highlight this comment 80

Matt Garza just disappeared into baseball's black hole. He will be missed.

Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:15 AM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 81

Does anyone know if you can see the main videoboard from section 126, row 14? I think row 14 is low enough in the section that the view is not obstructed from the admin building. Also, we are in seats 3 and 4 so we are closer to section 125 than we are to section 127. (think there are 24 seats/row)

Rick had a posting last year about the different seat obstructions and such but cannot seem to locate that post.

Posted on January 9, 2011 at 2:44 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 82

I found the post...it's just hard to tell for sure from the 3-D seat finder but we should be ok since we are very close to section 125.

Posted on January 9, 2011 at 3:24 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 83

In case anyone is interested. The interchange transit design concepts will be unveiled on January 11th.

Posted on January 9, 2011 at 6:23 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 84

Mike, I was in sec. 126 row 7, seats 11-12 and i could see the scoreboard just fine.

Posted on January 10, 2011 at 08:21 AM by Duffman Highlight this comment 85

Here's a picture from the "No smoking in the Metrodome" blog of the construction going on with the second video board and the twins tower. Looks like the tower supports are about the full height now and nothing happening yet with the video board.

Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:21 AM by Grizzly Adams Highlight this comment 86

Grizzly,

Oh no, I am not going to be able to see the Stafford sign! What am I going to do!

Posted on January 10, 2011 at 4:42 PM by tk Highlight this comment 87

Rick,

I just wanted to publicly thank you for all your hard work and dedication. Last year I won the opportunity to purchase Opening Day tickets. This was due to the excitement you and your site built, my devotion to the Twins, and all the people on here with updates and people sharing that the Twins were giving that opportunity away.

After getting the tickets, I saw what people were paying on the open market, and suggested to my wife that if we played our cards right, we could turn a once in a lifetime shot into Season Tickets. We just needed to find someone to go in on tickets too. I sold the tickets, and then met Tyler through this site. I had tried getting season tickets before, but even talking with family, friends, and co-workers, people I saw daily, I couldn't ever make it work. By some chance, I met a guy on here that shared the same thoughts on getting tickets, and we were able to make it work via email.

We bought a 20 game package, split with Tyler and his family, and were so pumped for the season. Then with the luck of this site, I found that the Twins were selling OD tix again.

No only did we get the season tickets, we also got the once in a lifetime chance to go to OD at Target Field. And on top of that, I attended my first post-season game with my new friend Tyler.

So, once again. Thank You for all you have done. I owe a lot to you and your site. Can't wait for April!

Sincerely,

Josh

Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:57 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 88

Rangers interested in Thome. Dear Twins, get this done now!

Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:25 PM by TK Highlight this comment 89

Nice story Josh! Reminds me to thank you again Rick. Your work and dedication is greatly appreciated by so many of us. Wish I could afford to show it with $$. You being a choral director; I, a cellist. I'm sure you'll understand. Hope to down the road.

Happy New Year to you all.

Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:55 PM by N.D. (aka N.D. "Rube") Highlight this comment 90

With the Rangers interested in Thome they are no longer persuing Vlad. I think Thome is awesome and wanted the Twins to sign him back in 05 when he left Philly. But with that said is there anyone else who thinks Vlad might be a better fit? He had huge numbers last year: .300 Avg, 29 HR, 115 rbi and made about 5.5 mil last year. More importantly is right handed. Thome's Salary is likely to go up maybe not Berkman high but up. Sadly, I don't expect the Twins to spend too much more money on free agents and would be surprised if either guys come back for next season.

Posted on January 11, 2011 at 09:18 AM by PNB19 Highlight this comment 91

The Twins are obviously waiting, as usual, for February to do their shopping in the dust-bin. So long as the new park remains packed full of people throwing ten dollar bills at beer vendors and cold sandwiches, we are silly to expect anything else. The only real question is why we don't get it.

Posted on January 11, 2011 at 10:54 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 92

Neither playoffs nor instant replay will be expanded for the 2011 MLB campaign.

Posted on January 11, 2011 at 11:45 AM by tk Highlight this comment 93

So, WHICH Twins cap would Blyleven wear on the plaque? The TC cap or the M cap?

Posted on January 11, 2011 at 11:58 AM by hofflalu Highlight this comment 94

Hoffalu, I would think it would be the TC cap. I think they have buried the M version underneath the metrodome! LOL! I would take Vlad if he comes cheap. Like the RH stick!

Posted on January 11, 2011 at 12:05 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 95

I believe the "TC" cap is historically correct for Bert's career as a Twin. I would have to snoop a bit, but I think he missed the "M" era altogether.

Posted on January 11, 2011 at 12:20 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 96

Bert did sneak into the 'm' era during the '87 WS year. I think he needs the m so that his beard can also be inducted.

Posted on January 11, 2011 at 1:17 PM by fiesta Highlight this comment 97

Having Jim Thome around last year was fun, and it would be nice to have the '10 Thome around again this year. But the guy is another year older, and I don't know if he'll have the same kind of year this year. Maybe it turns out Twins fans are better off remembering the '09 Thome than watching the '11 Thome.

Posted on January 11, 2011 at 5:21 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 98

That should rea: "better off remembering the '10 Thome than watching the '11 Thome."

Posted on January 11, 2011 at 5:23 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 99

Dr. X, just like an unmentionable Viking?

Posted on January 11, 2011 at 5:26 PM by TK Highlight this comment 100

Exactly like said Viking. As fans, we can take a lesson from that experience and be grateful for what we were able to enjoy last year.

Posted on January 11, 2011 at 9:26 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 101

I see 21 people are visiting right now, but the last post I have is #101, from 2 days ago. Is there something messed up with my reception of this site?

Posted on January 13, 2011 at 4:03 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 102

19 for me right now, me just creeping...along with the following: Go Go Twins, JoJo, ajax, Fred, Dr. X, Steeks, Ben, Andrew, Jon, tk, terry

My guess is that we have this page open in a minimized window a lot!

Posted on January 13, 2011 at 4:21 PM by tk Highlight this comment 103

Nobody not saying nuthin.

Posted on January 13, 2011 at 4:56 PM by robin Highlight this comment 104

I miss Target Field

Posted on January 13, 2011 at 5:25 PM by luke Highlight this comment 105

This discussion board is as quiet as the Twins' front office this offseason....IALTO coming, IALTO coming...

Posted on January 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 106

Pardon my ignorance, but what is IALTO?

Posted on January 13, 2011 at 9:04 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 107

Here is some information about ballpark experiences for the coming year. I think the roof deck (under the game day event and party suites tab) would be entertaining for a game. Be sure to enter the chance for a luxury suite contest!

Posted on January 13, 2011 at 9:18 PM by NotMendoza Highlight this comment 108

Dr X - I Always Love That One = IALTO

Posted on January 13, 2011 at 9:29 PM by luke Highlight this comment 109

IALTO

Posted on January 13, 2011 at 10:46 PM by jctwins Highlight this comment 110

it's pretty obvious who the dinosaur is on this board. I'm assuming that's text shorthand that, of course, someone without a cell phone, or wireless, or whatever they're called these days, would have no familiarity with.

My laptop is as high-tech as my life gets. Heck, does anyone even use the term high-tech anymore?

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 03:33 AM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 111

Ladies and Gentlemen....Jim Thome....We got him!

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:51 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 112

Mike , I see one year deal. Wonder how much 5 mil?

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) – The Minnesota Twins have reached terms to keep powerhouse slugger Jim Thome on the roster for one more year.

The Twins announced Thome will be back to hit them out of the park in 2011.

Thome joined the team in the 2010 season after nearly two decades in the Major Leagues, including stints with Cleveland and Chicago.

In his 2010 season with the Twins, Thome hit 25 home runs, surpassing the record set by, among others, Twins legend Harmon Killebrew. Thome also had 59 RBIs in his 108 games last season.

The terms of the deal were not disclosed.

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:58 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 113

Wonder what the holdup on Pavano is? Rumor has it no other clubs going out of there way for Carl. I'm sure the Twins want to make sure they only go 2 years!

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:59 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 114

I heard base $3 million with incentives...not sure how accurate that is, but we will wait and see when the Twins hold their teleconference this afternoon with the media.

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 12:05 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 115

Can't wait to see Thome hit #600 in a Twins uniform. I hope it's another walk-off against the White Sox. :-)

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 12:26 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 116

Good news / bad news. The bad news is that this must have a "Morneau factor" somewhere.

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 12:27 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 117

Ben,

I thought the same thing. If Morneau is healthy, Thome's an expensive pinch hitter.

And Thome has made clear that he doesn't want to be an expensive pinch hitter. So either the Twins know something bad about Morneau, or Thome is an insurance policy (and agreed to be such).

I'm hoping for the latter...

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 12:33 PM by Rick 118

Indeed. Smith said something about being "optimistic" just recently but he was pretty much mumbling and it seemed like he was hoping the conversation quickly went elsewhere. I've had a bad feeling all along but hope that, as usual, I'm dead wrong.

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 12:49 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 119

To Josh and N.D.:

Following up from earlier in the thread, thanks for the kind words. Working on this site is always a pleasure -- one I wish I had more time to indulge.

It seems like it's been kind of a sleepy winter for baseball. I follow the transactions, of course, but there's hardly anything of interest.

I did get down to TF the other day and have some photos to share.

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 12:59 PM by Rick 120

Wonder how much Vlad would have cost? Sounds like he may be heading back to the Angels. I wonder if he would have been a better fit if price was the same? Plus then you have another RH bat.

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 1:45 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 121

Is Vlad solely a dh or does he still play in the outfield?

Did anyone sit in Row 1 of the grandstand last year? Sec 239, specifically? It was pretty much the only place open to upgrade to a full season for tickets, so I ended up there.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 2:00 PM by Duffman Highlight this comment 122

He rarely plays in the outfield anymore.

Rangers general manager Jon Daniels said Wednesday that the club is out on Vladimir Guerrero.
To be expected now that Adrian Beltre will play third base and Michael Young will be the primary designated hitter. There aren't many opportunities left for aging DH-types, so Guerrero has virtually no shot at getting the two-year deal he coveted earlier this winter. Some have speculated that he could return to the Angels, but there doesn't appear to be any real interest, at least right now.Source: Anthony Andro on Twitter

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 2:19 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 123

Rick,

I came home and found this wonderful package on my porch that turned out to be the framed picture from the Playoff Contest. I feel like the dad from A Christmas Story, "It's a major award!"

Thanks, it looks awesome! I'll be sure to post a picture after I hang it up!

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 3:10 PM by Andrew Highlight this comment 124

I had a meeting near the Basilica that ended early today. I was glad to bike over to check out the ballpark in the snow. (The sort of thing I'd never have done with the dome. The calmness stood out most of all. Someone had built a snowman on the RF plaza (waving a homer hanky and all). Paths were cleared on the plaza, including one to Carl & Eloise. 4 new tradition walls have been hung. Lastly, I heard some workers in the RF stands, but didn't make out noticeable progress.

All in all, it was a fine activity for a snowy January Friday. I highly recommend it!

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 3:37 PM by fiesta Highlight this comment 125

Rick-
I don't know if I agree with the whole "Morneau" factor. It is possible though. I've actually heard the opposite about Thome's requests. Last year, he said he had to get his rest, he said he couldn't be a full time DH...which is why he fit with us, we couldn't give him full time.

It was what he was pre-Morneau injury and it is what he is now, Morneau present or not. I don't see how that has changed because he physically can't take much more than 300 PA's (total pre & post Morneau injury in 2009). I haven't seen anywhere that he wanted more AB's.

I think he could see more action than he saw pre-Morneau injury whether Morneau is good or not, especially if Kubel sucks for 1/2 the season again....but still, he can't full time DH. Morneau good or not, the Twins actual need was/is a RH bat. Thome's more of a luxury than a need.

If Morneau's down, then the bigger need than Thome would be a guy who can play a position (first obviously). Thome's bat fixes Morneau's absence, but it puts Cuddy at first and he's either amazing (2009) or bad (2010).

I mean, if he did request more than he got last year total, I'd really question him because once Morneau was down there was a week or two where the Twins wanted to put him in but couldn't because he was sore or had back stuff.

TwinkFan-
Vlad probably would have been a better fit, but I don't see him taking 3 million guaranteed. He made 5.5 and did well (minus a mostly bad second half). I see it going up, not down.

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 3:51 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 126

"Is Vlad solely a dh or does he still play in the outfield?"

That's a question which could only be asked by someone who is forgetting Game 1 of the 2010 World Series. Watching Vlad stumble around right field in San Francisco was the best argument I've seen yet for extending the DH to both leagues -- at least in the postseason.

Sometimes, as I fall asleep, I wonder, "What would I do if I were commissioner of baseball for a day?"

It's a long list.

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 3:56 PM by Rick 127

From the Strib article on the Thome deal:

"This new deal includes performance bonuses for plate appearances."

That just doesn't sound like somebody wanting to limit his playing time.

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad Thome's back, and I look forward to seeing that 600th homer as well, but I'm sensing something about Morneau between the lines and hoping it's not true.

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 4:01 PM by Rick 128

If I remember corectly his contract last season had incentives for plate appearances.

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 4:59 PM by PNB19 Highlight this comment 129

PNB19-
You are correct. Thome's 2010 contract did have incentives in it and one of them was plate appearances. He ended up making $200,000 + the 1.5, but could have made $750,000 in incentives.

So there really isn't a difference from then and now. There is more money guaranteed, but there were also way more teams after him this year.

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 6:37 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 130

Yeah, the Morneau situation just hasn't been sitting too well with me since late last season. I just have this feeling that this is going to be a chronic condition for him, and if he does play this year, I wonder if he'll be able to start and finish a significant number of games.

Geez, I hope I'm wrong.

Posted on January 14, 2011 at 9:43 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 131

What they should do is bench Cuddy against RH pitchers, put Kubel in RF, and have Thome DH. Against LH pitchers have Cuddy in RF with Kubel and Thome platooning at DH. But that wont happen because Gardy lves Cuddy too much.

Posted on January 15, 2011 at 09:54 AM by Iowawigman Highlight this comment 132

I was at a Christmas party last night which some state Legislators attended. I talked to one from Paynesville and asked her about how she felt about the Vikings stadium issue.
We talked for about ten minutes on the subject, and hearing what she had to say, primarily about the state deficit, I think I've crossed the aisle on the issue, and if she and I were colleagues in the Legislature, we'd both be voting no.

Posted on January 15, 2011 at 11:36 AM by luke Highlight this comment 133

That's funny. You've already decided to vote against a bill that you haven't seen or read, and which hasn't actually even been written yet? That's certainly not what I'm looking for in my legislators...

I've said it before: Stadium deals are complicated negotiations, and lawmakers are hired to do that hard work and get us the best possible deal.

It's hard to imagine a scenario where no stadium is the best possible deal. And if you wait until the state has no financial problems before doing anything, nothing will ever get done. This whole "we have to solve problem X before we can even talk about problem Y" is total BS, and every legislator worth his or her salt knows it.

Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:26 PM by Rick 134

I suppose that's true in principle Rick...but there are a couple things that we do know, even without a bill on the floor: the Vikings are only willing to pony up 1/3 of the cost, which leaves anywhere from, I would say $700-900+ million that is unaccounted for.

And, I just think it's inevitable that the Vikes are going to go after state money, instead of looking for a deal like the Twins got with the partnership with Hennepin County. I guess I've just become more conservative about using state money...and that's what I've "crossed the line" on.

Certainly, you're right about solving problem X before talking about Y. It's kind of like waiting to get married until you're financially stable. What exactly does "financially stable" mean?

Posted on January 15, 2011 at 2:07 PM by luke Highlight this comment 135

The whole "we'll pay 1/3 without a roof" is their negotiating stance. Frankly, I think it's a somewhat misguided one, though I realize what's going on.

As we saw with the Twins, sources of money are numerous and not always obvious. And it's important to remember that "economic stimulus" is a very salable thing in our current climate.

Posted on January 15, 2011 at 2:22 PM by Rick 136

Do the friggin Racino for cripes sake...Canterbury is a GREAT facility with some GREAT people working there..Let them put in some slot machines to help the horse racing there "AND" build a Vikings stadium.

Posted on January 15, 2011 at 3:49 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 137

A racino at Canterbury seems like a great idea, but it competes directly with Mystic Lake. I can see why that issue is not reconciled so easily.

Posted on January 15, 2011 at 4:18 PM by jct (aka jctwins) Highlight this comment 138

And what is wrong with competing with Mystic Lake? I have a ton of competition in my business.

Posted on January 15, 2011 at 4:24 PM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 139

BIG $$$$ by Mystic going into campaigns of YOUR elected officials to vote AGAINST a Racino,,,I say,,,Mystic gets MORE than enough profit..spread it around and "help" build a Vikings stadium.

Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:51 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 140

DO IT NOW!!!!

Question: Why haven't the vikings organization joined forces with the racino group to push for a racino which would help finance a new stadium for the vikings?

Lester Bagley: There's no question that there's stron...g public support for using Racino or casino revenues as a funding solution for the stadium issue. It seems to us that the Canterbury Park proposal is the most viable - they have the infrastructure in place. They've been a good business/operator in Minnesota. If the governor and legislative leaders tell us that the Racino/casino is their preferred solution, then we will jump on-board. However, any gaming proposal would have to be vetted and approved by the NFL. Right now, we expect to start the discussion where we left off last session - utilizing user-based financing along the lines of State Lottery scratch-off, a surcharge on NFL merchandise, hospitality taxes, etc.

Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:11 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 141

For anyone interested, here are the design ideas for the Interchange project next to Target Field. Click my name if anyone is interested in the ideas.

Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:59 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 142

Thanks for posting that Jeff. I got a kick out of Group 2's description: "[We] wanted to embrace the Hennepin Energy Recovery Center facility’s proximity to the project area." Pleasant, optimistic rhetoric from the young architects.

Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:45 PM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 143

Exactly 1 month until pitchers and catchers report. We are almost out of the baseball abyss!!!

Posted on January 16, 2011 at 10:40 AM by Tyler Highlight this comment 144

I am not here to make this argument, but it is a legitimate argument...

Indian gaming is essentially reparations for past wrongs done to these people. To compete against it is essentially going back on the reparation that is currently in place.

As I said I AM NOT MAKING THIS ARGUMENT, but I can't say it isn't a fair discussion, and it is going to be an issue with strong feelings on the other side.

Mystic wanted a piece of TCF stadium. I think they eventually did do something there? It might seem logical that there'd be a joint venture opportunity there. Essentially naming rights on steroids?

Posted on January 16, 2011 at 12:35 PM by jctwins Highlight this comment 145

jctwins has a valid point. Until there is precedent for the White Man going back on his word then no racino/casino should be built by non-American Indians.

Posted on January 16, 2011 at 3:17 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 146

What are the chances of that happening?

Posted on January 16, 2011 at 3:56 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 147

Maybe if "we" gave the Black Hills back to them?

Posted on January 16, 2011 at 4:29 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 148

As I am starting to prepare my taxes for this upcoming year, I am trying to go back and track down all my transactions on StubHub, etc. as income. Not something I am looking forward to claiming on taxes this year, as it is considered self-employment and a high tax rate...

Posted on January 16, 2011 at 4:44 PM by TK Highlight this comment 149

TK why would you report the income?

Posted on January 16, 2011 at 5:31 PM by jctwins Highlight this comment 150

The citizens of Minnesota just elected a Gov. who is in favor of a state run casino..It's gonna happen..Not saying it's right or wrong..j
Just sayin...........

Posted on January 16, 2011 at 5:39 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 151

Isn't it a law that you report all of your income?

Posted on January 16, 2011 at 5:56 PM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 152

Income yes, but not sale of property.

Posted on January 16, 2011 at 6:37 PM by jctwins Highlight this comment 153

Boy, I hope you're a tax attorney.

Posted on January 16, 2011 at 10:10 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 154

If StubHub sent you a 1099, then A) wow, you sold a lot of tickets, and B) you sure as #!@$ better report the income.

As for casino gambling: See? I told you there were non-obvious places where money can be found. It's not exactly a progressive tax (being overly weighted toward people who are bad a math), but it sure is voluntary.

Frankly, I think there are probably better (i.e. less provocative) options out there, but if it works, fine by me.

Posted on January 16, 2011 at 10:29 PM by Rick 155

Rick is right. If you got a 1099 you have income to report. If you didn't, you (most likely) don't.

I'd be interested if the OP got one.

Posted on January 16, 2011 at 10:37 PM by jctwins Highlight this comment 156

After a quick google search:

Starting January 2011, we are required by the IRS to collect a Tax ID Number (TIN) for sellers with more than 200 transactions and $20,000 USD paid to them by StubHub per year so we can create an annual 1099k form. Learn more about providing us with your TIN (http://www.stubhub.com/help/services/HelpTopic?nodeId=30888)

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 08:07 AM by jctwins Highlight this comment 157

i would say last year i did 20 transactions between stubhub abd craigslist, but only for about 2k... 20 k wow thats a full time job keeping track of that stuff

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 09:55 AM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 158

I suspect most "ticket brokers" fall into the "two bit hustler" rather than the "high octane businessman" category.

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 10:01 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 159

put racinos in at canterbury (shakopee) and one in at running aces racetrack (forest lake/columbus) and be done with it. people in the metro area shouldn't be forced to drive out to indian reservations just to gamble. and reperations my arse. we don't owe indians exclusivity to gambling revenues within this state or any other state for that matter. whoever came up with that logic back in the day surely would not have my vote now.

just like affirmative action, gambling exclusivity for indians is a bad idea built on a false premise.

i hope they tear down this silly monopoly that indians currently have when it comes to gambling throughout much of the u.s.

and i am a democrat folks.......

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 12:06 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 160

I'd be interested in seeing if the Indian casinos would put Vikings machines in their casinos so the people at the Indian casino already can choose to contribute to the cause if they want to. Those machines would have a mandatory split to the stadium fund.

I'd like to see Vikings machines in any state run casino also, to give the gambler a vote for or against, where the Vikings machines contributed to the stadium funding more than other machines.

Similar concept on lottery tickets.

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 12:18 PM by jctwins Highlight this comment 161

In no way shape did I get a 1099 from SH, however, my accountant knows that I have sold tickets for a profit and that is classified as income. Similarly to those that babysit, it is still considered income and taxable.

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 1:15 PM by TK Highlight this comment 162

If it starts January 11 you may be off the hook. But if not, see if you can document losses to offset some gains, and if you donated tickets and have records, add that to your charitable contributions.
I think some brokers would keep their unsold tickets as backup proof of losses, at least in the days before scanning.

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 1:17 PM by robin Highlight this comment 163

You are to be commended.
If some were at a loss, you should be able to offset them. I believe for example, if you won a lottery, and happened to have old losing tickets, you could deduct those. Not that I would worry about that if I actually won something big, but I suspect it's the same principle.

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 1:20 PM by robin Highlight this comment 164

Yes, there are many ways to off-set the deductions (losses; travel expenses; donations; research costs)

jctwins, it is my understanding that the sell of anything for more than what you paid, it is considered capital gain, and subsequently taxable on the profit.

I did not mean to turn this discussion into this, but looks like I have.

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 1:29 PM by TK Highlight this comment 165

Considering it's the offseason, I think this is interesting to discuss. As we are having this discussion I am in the middle of very indepth tax study for a professional certification.

In 10+ years of professional business, I have never run into someone reporting profits on sale of non-investment assets on a tax return, without a 1099 being issued to record the dollars with the IRS. I am not saying you are not correct, but I don't know that you are avoiding a legitimate tax by not reporting the income.

Apparently Stubhub is concluding that anyone grossing 20k on ticket sales is in the business of selling tickets. I would GUESS they came to that conclusion based on an IRS ruling somewhere along the line. Searching the IRS guidelines I can't find the keywords to confirm either side of this discussion.

Interesting, because in some ways it's probably like the hobbyist photographer that earns a few bucks of profit, and it is generally only reported on a tax return if the same person wants to report a loss at some point.

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 1:55 PM by jctwins Highlight this comment 166

I guess this covers it, under business income:

Fair market value of property or services received through bartering.

The link isn't an IRS link, but an about.com link.

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 1:58 PM by jctwins Highlight this comment 167

So who is pitching in the pen for the Twins this upcoming year? I cannot keep track with all the departures.

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 3:33 PM by TK Highlight this comment 168

"it is still considered income" --- probably because it IS income.

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 3:41 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 169

The IRS expects you to report the $5 bill you found on the street. In other words, every single penny you make, regardless of how.

If you get a 1099 form then you know the IRS knows about that income, because they got another copy of the same form. My understanding is that there is a minimum amount you have to have earned before a 1099 is required to be sent, but I don't know what that amount is.

If you get audited, you may have to provide bank statements, through which the IRS will comb looking for any unreported earnings. This isn't very likely, but it IS possible.

So, should you report any StubHub earnings even if there's no 1099? The IRS would say yes.

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 4:11 PM by Rick 170

The takeaway being that it's business ordinary income, not capital gain income as proceeds from an investment, with a cost basis. I think there would still be question on the necessity of claiming every profitable sale as taxable business income, as there must be some threshold the IRS would use.

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 4:12 PM by jctwins Highlight this comment 171

Posting at the same time Rick, not meant as a followup to your post.

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 4:13 PM by jctwins Highlight this comment 172

Rauch to Toronto and Fuentes likely to Oakland. Click Name.

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 4:34 PM by grizzly adams Highlight this comment 173

There are people who would not bother to report income that the IRS has no way of knowing about - my guess is that JCT's guy wants things on the up and up, that he would prefer not to sign off on the return knowing it is not a true and faithful accounting. What would Denny Hecker do?

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 5:21 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 174

Rauch gone; Fuentes posssibly gone; it looks like the Twins will be going with Nathan as closer this year (I don't know what Matt Capps's contract situation is). I get nervous about recoveries from Tommy John surgery. Couple that with his age, and I have grave concerns.

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 5:43 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 175

Capps is arbitration eligible, so they'll get something finalized in the next week or two. I'm guessing as of now the job is open with the two of them competing for it.

Also Nathan was older when he started pitching so his arm isn't as shot as most pitchers' by his age. He came up as an infielder.

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 8:14 PM by jctwins Highlight this comment 176

Nathan is 36 years old; a couple years younger than I thought he was, but still I wonder how well he'll have recovered from TJ surgery that was performed only last spring. That usually takes about two years for pitchers to regain their velocity and confidence. Has anybody heard anything about his progress?

Posted on January 17, 2011 at 10:01 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 177

btw everyone, I'm Indian they are Native American!

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 01:58 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 178

History generally shows that relievers heal quicker from TJ surgery. Starters usually take two years, relievers usually less. I'm not sure Neshek will ever recover as he's all elbow all the time.

A comparison Nathan and fans will hope to happen is that he'll be the next Billy Wagner. Surgery in Septermber 2008. Returned to baseball August 2009, less than a year later...pitched amazing for 15 total innings that year. Then in 2010 he pitched one of his best seasons ever with an ERA of 1.43 for 69 innings with 104 K's and 22 walks. He retired after the season to spend more time with his family.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 08:52 AM by AJ Highlight this comment 179

Man there are going to be some huge question marks with that bullpen for sure. Won't miss Herman Munster closing. Although the Mad Capper can sure make things exciting in the 9th. I think Nathan will be a non factor coming back from surgery. Even though he threw like a girl I liked Fuentes and he was a lefty. If the other lefty Mijares comes into camp at 4 bills we are in big trouble. Don't trust Neshek! Middle infield unknow. I got the boys fighting with Cleveland to stay in 3rd place. Brutal early schedule with 3 in Toronto and 4 in NY to open the season! 7 with Tampa Bay also in April. I think anything over 500 might be optomistic this year. Anyways will be fun at the yard year 2.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 08:58 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 180

I also forgot to mention that Wagner was 37 when he had TJ surgery, which was the main point of my post. He was even older than Nathan and was a good pitcher pre-surgery.

TwinkFan-
I'd much rather have Rauch than Capps. Much, much, much rather. Capps supposedly has better "stuff" than Rauch but the results are usually the same. Rauch is about two times cheaper and gives fans less heart attacks than Capps does.

I think the BP will be something like:
Nathan/Capps
Capps/Nathan
Mijares
Diamond
Veteran FA
Slowey/Duensing (If Pavano is signed)
Burnett/Slama/Neshek/Hoey/Delaney/Manship/Perkins (competition)

That bullpen doesn't look too bad to me. The Twins always do this with their bullpen, not so many guys at once, but there is always turnover. I do think they will miss Guerrier though. He was a workhorse set-up man and I don't think we have that any longer.

Gardy flat out said that Duensing has earned a starter spot the other day, so I guess I can take my Duensing out...but I'll leave him there just in case. I see Carlos Gutierrez as a mid-season call up into the bullpen. And if the Twins do what they normally do, Gibson might be put into the pen before he becomes a starter in the bigs.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 09:29 AM by AJ Highlight this comment 181

Have the Twins always instituted the following "Autograph Restrictions" at Twinsfest?? Is the autograph party the same way??

It's rather disappointing they charge you $25+ for these players and make you wait in line for several hours. I understand that several people turn around and sell this stuff for huge profits, but there are a lot of fans out there that would like a jersey or bat or something personal signed with no intentions to re-sell.

Do I really want a Bert Blyleven signed baseball with Matt Tolbert's signature on it? I am just happy and fortunate I have had several opportunities for Bert Blyleven autographs BEFORE he was inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame.

Autograph Restrictions:

Bert Blyleven
Will sign flat items, only personalized baseballs and specialty items signed by multiple players (Homer Hankies, prints, programs, etc.)
No bats, jerseys or HOF inscriptions

Rod Carew
No bats, jerseys or game-used items

Joe Mauer
No game-used items

Justin Morneau
No game-used items

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 09:29 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 182

The HOFers almost always have restrictions, like the Carew one for no bats sounds very familiar. I think that's more of a player thing rather than a Twins thing because I think every guy in the Hall does it. Blyleven would sign whatever before, now he doesn't have to.

The Mauer/Morneau ones are new to my knowledge, but maybe they were present before. That could be a Twins thing...

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 09:47 AM by AJ Highlight this comment 183

There's a little nugget buried at the bottom of this article (click name).

"On a side note, Smith said the pine trees behind the centerfield wall at Target Field probably will be replaced, because some hitters find them distracting."

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 10:09 AM by Tyler Highlight this comment 184

Hmm, I thought they were already ripped out. My friend's brother-in-law works for the Twins and he said they were, maybe he meant that they're going to be.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 10:13 AM by AJ Highlight this comment 185

Re Auto's and Twinsfest - What's a "personalized baseball," and does that need to be signed by multiple players, or only the "specialty items"...?

Many of these guys get paid by companies to sign/sell items, and those companies pay for certain exclusive rights, e.g. Blyleven auto's with "HoF" inscribed on it. So the players can't sign certain ways or certain items because of contractual agreements.

I think Carew is just trying to limit the overreaching of merchandise resellers.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 10:15 AM by BR Highlight this comment 186

The pine trees are distracting? And the OF walls are too far away. Could the hitters be bigger whiners??!

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 10:17 AM by BR Highlight this comment 187

I'm guessing a personalized baseball is one addressed to you with your name on it as well as his signature. Not many people want to buy autographed balls with someone else's name on it, so they know it won't sell. It doesn't sound like that needs to be signed by other players.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 10:22 AM by AJ Highlight this comment 188

Thanks, AJ, that makes sense. And honestly, my son would RATHER have that kind of auto, I think, than a generic one. (Especially since, like others ehre, we've got Bert's auto on other items already.)

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 10:58 AM by BR Highlight this comment 189

Bert could be found at Spring Training games walking up and down the fences looking for people wanting something signed. And I believe it's true that predatory resellers ruin things for simple autograph seekers - the guys who push their own little kids around are real jerks, same as beggars.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 12:17 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 190

The long lines and multi-hour waits are just terrible. The Twins should be selling timed tickets for all autograph seekers, just like museums do.

It's not that hard, and better for -- literally -- everybody concerned.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 12:22 PM by Rick 191

I know that many fans love to get autographs from athletes/famous people....but for the life of me, I don't understand the popularity of it.

Back in my college days, I worked for SIMS security at the Dome for Vikings games and had to escort the players to their vehicles before and after games. I actually saw grown men chasing players across the parking lot just to get an autograph.

In my opinion, autographs should be just for the kids. I can understand the thrill that a child would have meeting a famous athlete and asking for their signature on a baseball or whatever. But I've never once had the urge to ask for an autograph as an adult.

Oh well, to each his own. Just my opinion.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 1:45 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 192

Yikes, Capps was signed for 7.1. A little more than I expected. Perkins got 700K.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 1:51 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 193

Fred-
I like getting auto's. That thrill a kid gets, I get. I never had a chance to do it as a kid. I don't chase or push anybody though. It's not THAT big of a deal to me. If they are working or paid to be at a signing, I don't see the problem with it.

I don't sell my stuff though, just add it to my memorabilia room. If you just see baseball as a game, it's understandable to not see the point. It's a huge passion of mine, more than just a game.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 1:57 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 194

" --- grown men chasing players --- " = the aforementioned jerks. There are many who seem to make a little business of it. Anyone walking past the employees entrance at the dump saw pretty much the same guys day after day.

The best time for autos is early in a player's career when it is still a thrill for them. I gets old in a huge hurry, even for the nicest of them.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:49 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 195

7 mil for the mad crapper? OUCH! If this season is bust you can expect some major salary dumpiing next year me thinks.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:54 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 196

I'm with you, Fred. The allure of the signature escapes me.

I believe I have only collected five autographs in my life: Killebrew, Oliva and Blyleven (all at TwinsFest, after excruciatingly long waits that had me wondering if I had gone crazy), Twig at a Saints game when an easy opportunity presented itself, and one TV/stage actor as a result of an awkward situation.

The latter happened when we bumped into this guy (a character actor on lots of sitcoms whose face you'd recognize but whose name you probably don't know) by accident coming out of the stage door after a show. We said HI and shook his hand, then were surrounded by people asking him for autographs. He kind of looked at us like, "Well? What do you want me to sign?" So I stuck out my program. Then he asked for a pen, and I kind of said, "Oh, yeah, right," and fished one out of my pocket.

Every time I see the guy on TV now, I think about that awkward moment and how I had to pretend for a second that I cared about getting his signature when I really couldn't have given a rip.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:07 PM by Rick 197

Capps was in a good spot. Solid numbers, and the distinct possibility that he will be relied upon in important situations.

Think of it as another insurance premium.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:09 PM by Rick 198

Well --- I guess neither Rick nor Fred would be interested in my Luis Rivas auto :-).

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:18 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 199

Did he have to pay you for it, Ben?

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:36 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 200

The question: Does he sign game-used items? HOF?

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:40 PM by Rick 201

I used to get autos at Spring Training games when they were too easy to pass up. And yes, I do have some clunkers.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:05 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 202

Here's why I was willing to wait so long for the autographs that I did get:


I had them sign pictures that I'd taken of them out at the Met when I was a kid. For what it's worth, they were all three so fried by the time I got to them that they didn't even register what they were signing, and didn't really seem to care. And there was no conversation to be had -- not that I really had anything to say other than "thanks".

Vic allows me to display these next to my ball case over the piano in our living room.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:11 PM by Rick 203

Speaking of TwinsFest and signatures (Mauer and Morneau) click link and bid on your chance...

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:38 PM by tk Highlight this comment 204

I have a few autographs I am fond of but don't regularly go seeking them. I was at the final game of 2006 season when Twins beat Sox and Tigers lost to KC and give the Twins the divsion. Later that evening I was at a grand opening for a sporting goods store and Tony Oliva was there. It was near the end of his signing and NOBODY was there. Bought a ball and took it over to him with my then 2 yr old son. He signed it for us (it sits on my son's bookshelf) and spent several minutes talking to us. Genuinely nice guy.

I was in Kansas City earlier that year and at the Negro Leagues Museum. Buck O'Neil showed up in the lobby for some kind of ceremony and was willing to sign autographs and pose for pictures so I got him to sign a postcard I bought from the gift shop. Still kicking myself for not buying a baseball instead. About 2 days later he went into the hospital for a couple days and then again a few months later before passing away. I did get my picture taken with him as well.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:40 PM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 205

Can we really refer to them as the "M&M boys".

I mean, really? I cannot think of an anaology to support why they shouldn't, but...to quote a previous poster, "to each their own."

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:42 PM by tk Highlight this comment 206

See that's the kind of thing I do with mine. I have a whole room like that. It has a very tiny bit of Vikings, lots of hockey (easily the nicest pro players out of NFL, MLB, NHL) and then a ton of MLB. And I don't go after the random guys, just the guys I like. Unless I'm doing a special project, like I am right now for the 2010 season.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:42 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 207

Regarding the replacement of the Metrodome, if the discussion merely centers around a "Vikings stadium" then it's hard to justify the cost . However, if you consider a new facility as a "National Event Center" then it becomes a no brainer.

Simply look at the events that Dallas, Indy, and Houston are getting because of their new facilities: Super Bowls, Final Fours, NCAA bowl games, concerts, NBA and boxing events, the list goes on.

In Phoenix they just hosted three college football games. The greater Phoenix area received an economic injection of more than $400 million because of ten hours of football.

If we can bring more revenue into the state then that means more dollars for education, lower taxes, etc. A Metrodome replacement will help.

Until we do that, however, we will miss out on huge events that can have a very positive impact on our local economy. Case in point: Minneapolis is now out of the running for the 2012 Democratic convention because of the Metrodome's status. (Sure, a tour of the facility would have killed their chances anyways....)

Prediction: the legislature will approve a $900 million fixed roof facility. Vikes will pay about a third and the NFL might even kick in a guarantee of a Super Bowl. Financing will be tricky, but they'll get it done with just a few votes to spare. And naming rights will not go to the Wilfs, but towards the cost of the facility. Best Buy Stadium perhaps?

K

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 5:19 PM by Kramer Highlight this comment 208

You know, sometimes the Twins just don't seem to get it. That exclusive "M&M autograph" auction that tk links to above? You get 2 tickets to Twinsfest as part of the auction. However, only ONE of those two people can go into the autograph session. Once inside, that person can have M&M each sign ONE item - that you supply - and take ONE picture, with your camera.

Ok, so who actually takes the picture, some staffer?? What does the other person do, twiddle his/her thumbs for 3 minutes while you get that exclusive opportunity to meet M&M?? And if I'm thinking about bidding on the auction for my kid, I just send him in and hope for the best?? Kind of stupid not to let dear old dad in to snap the picture, don't you think?? Unless of course the team is simply expecting the autograph hounds to be the only people bidding. Just kinda dumb, imo.

(And don't even get me started on the fact that I tried to make 2 separate purchases of a total of 6 tickets to spring training games during the STH presale and the system wouldn't let me in for the 2d purchase. And no one answered the customer service line. And no one from the "VIP STH phone line" returned my message. Etc. Sheesh!! Ok, end of ranting.)

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 5:27 PM by BR Highlight this comment 209

"If we can bring more revenue into the state then that means more dollars for education, lower taxes --- ".

What color is the sky on your planet?

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 7:08 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 210

Rick, there really is a contrast when you look at Harmon and Bert's autograph. When you look at there two autographs together, Bert's is really elementary...

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 8:09 PM by tk Highlight this comment 211

Kramer - thank you for being the voice of reason in regards to some sort of a roof on a new building.
Minneapolis has been a laughing stock since 2007. The Final Four hasn't been here since 2001...and unfortunately, we really can't get one til 2017 anyway, as the NCAA has delled Final Fours out until 2016.
Ben - simply put, Minneapolis hasn't generated any revenue for anything in the last 15 years. That's why our shopping malls (i.e. Crookdale and City Center) are closing. That's why corporate headquarters dart out of here faster than you can twist your neck (i.e. Honeywell).
Just think of what this cock of a city will gain by building a fixed- or retractable-roof replacement to the Metrodome: Final Fours, Super Bowls, maybe even the Toilet Bowl (a new BCS bowl game to begin in 2016, aptly named for the new stadium's predecessor), monster truck shows, WrestleMania for Christ's sake! The list is endless.
Or better yet, why can't we do what New Orleans did? The Superdome was all but dead after Katrina in 2005. They've had two significant rounds of renovation. End result? The place looks BETTER than it did pre-Katrina. City officials even claim it's as good as a "new stadium".

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 9:58 PM by luke Highlight this comment 212

A mall in Brooklyn Center is closing because Minneapolis isn't generating enough revenue? Just stop. Please.

I'd say odds are 50/50 at best that Minneapolis would again host a Super Bowl, even with a new stadium.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 10:38 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 213

And taxes do not go down - even my parrot knows that.

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 10:58 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 214

luke,

the biggest joke in Minneapolis is you!

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 11:01 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 215

Well, TTH, in all due respect, what I said about city revenue and shopping malls isn't entirely off-base. While shopping malls are privately-owned entities, I do believe it's the city's responsibility to promote further development around the area: housing, office space, infrastructure, etc. Just look at what's happened in and around MOA. Was Bloomington essentially a "third downtown" before MOA opened? Certainly not. Now look at it.
It's because of MOA and the revenue it generates, I believe, that's made Bloomington what it is today. Conversely, I think a stadium that can attract as many events as it can, will have the same effect on Minneapolis. Downtown Minneapolis is a colossal failure. The non-Metrodome side of town is starting to show some life again. Why? Target Field.
So, the reason I made the statement about Crookdale is just that, the city has done nothing to attract further development in that part of town. They've let it go to pot. Conversely, if they did decide to build a new stadium on the Crookdale site, you just watch, that Sheraton there on Freeway Blvd won't be the only hotel...like it is now.
It's a collaborative effort between the team and the city to make it work. The Twins did it.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 07:12 AM by luke Highlight this comment 216

Anyone else the least bit courious who this mystery actor, whose autograph Rick has, is?

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 07:21 AM by Duffman Highlight this comment 217

Kiefer Sutherland maybe?

79 days til OD. A thaw in the making for next week. Winter is definitely on its way out.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 08:52 AM by luke Highlight this comment 218

Kiefer is much more of a movie actor than a tv guy. Besides 24, he really hasn't done much tv. Plus, Kiefer is awesome and I wouldn't think of him as some random as Rick is making the actor sound.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 09:33 AM by AJ Highlight this comment 219

Louie Anderson? :p

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM by tk Highlight this comment 220

"U of M study shows that fans love their liquor"

Click name for article.

I agree with the premise that fans love their liquor, but I would like to see the study that the UofM conducted, including their methodology and analysis of the data.

If they surveyed 362 adults, leaving MLB and NFL games, I am not too sure if only 362 surveyed is enough to have a statistically significant. Let's say they only went to 2 games. Average fans at a Twins game (40,000) let's say half are above 21 (sample population 20,000) and Vikings game (64,000) and how about 41,000 are above 21.

If my possible inflated assumptions of those that are over 21 at the 2 events is close, that would mean 61,000 people at 2 events would be over the age of 21. 362 of a possible 61,000....

That would be slightly higher than one-half of one percent. Almost close enough for a MN election recount :)

How many people were asked to take the survey, how many refused?? How were people selected??

I would hypothesize, those that were asked to use a breathalyzer and were intoxicated, would be more apt to participate, in their own curiosity to see what their BAC registers; compared to those that are sober, want probably just want to get home, and know they would have a .000 BAC.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 11:23 AM by tk Highlight this comment 221

They also stated that most of the games that were attended to research were baseball games. I would like to see this research expanded to get a more conclusive picture and one that could actually be published in a peer review.

I think this is fine for entertainment purposes, but I do not think this is actually more than just a new piece.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 11:27 AM by tk Highlight this comment 222

I didn't really intend to start any rampant speculation by leaving out the actor's name. The phrase "character actor" should be an indication of his relative level of fame (recognizable, but hardly A- or even B-list).

But I guess that anything goes in January. So, in that spirit, here's a clue:

In one of the Pixar movies, his character was said to have made a mistake while in a certain Minnesota city near which one of the aforementioned casinos can be found.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 12:00 PM by Rick 223

It's January and it's going to be -15 degrees soon. Not much else to do. I have no idea though, since I've seen maybe two Pixar films.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 12:10 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 224

what kevin said........

luke: serious question.....are you mentally challenged or something? what is your deal with some of the random (and often clueless) crap you come up with? again, serious question. not trying to make fun of you.

p.s. you do realize that brooklyn center (a city) is NOT in minneapolis (a city) correct? so why in the world would the city of minneapolis ever have been concerned with promoting a mall complex such as brookdale that is not even within the minneapolis city limits? that is your argument here in taking lame cheap shots at minneapolis? really? that would be like saying the city of minneapolis should go out of its way to promote ridgedale IN the city of minnetonka. why?

p.p.s get a clue luke.....stop, breathe and think before you type some of your random musings in the middle of the night.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 12:30 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 225

Here is more informations about the fans & alcohol study. Amongst the news it is mentioned that:

the study is reported online Jan. 18 and will be published in the April print issue of the journal Alcoholism: Clinical & Experimental Research.

research was done in May through October of 2006 after 13 baseball games and 3 football games.

fans were asked to consent to an anonymous breathalyzer test and a five-minute verbal survey assessing their alcohol consumption levels before and during the game.

those who tailgated before the game were 14 times more to leave the game drunk (.08 and above).

as with most good research, it probably brought up more questions than answers.

Erickson (the researcher) said it was challenging to get fans to consent to the test, not only because they may have wanted to obscure their blood alcohol levels but also because "they've got one thing on their mind -- to beat the traffic and get home."

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 12:56 PM by NotMendoza Highlight this comment 226

The movie you are referencing is Cars...not sure who the actor would be though.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 1:01 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 227

Richard Kind

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 1:24 PM by The Rational Actor Highlight this comment 228

News from the Twins Caravan

Target Field to get statue honoring Oliva
FARGO, N.D. -- Twins president Dave St. Peter joined the Caravan on Tuesday night for the leg's night stop at the Hub in Fargo and he provided updates as to what's going on at Target Field for the 2011 season.

St. Peter's big announcement to the packed crowd was that the Twins will be unveiling a Tony Oliva statue outside Gate 6 on Opening Day. Oliva's statue will join the three statues that are all currently in place at Target Field -- Hall of Famers Harmon Killebrew, Kirby Puckett and Rod Carew.

"Tony we all know is a player with a Hall of Fame resume and we're keeping our fingers crossed for the Veterans Committee voting that takes place next December," St. Peter said. "But he's also probably been as good an ambassador as we've had in our franchise. So we as an organization frankly felt really good about the fact that Tony Oliva should be the next statue. Over time there will be additional legend player statues, but we are really proud of the fact that there will be a Tony Oliva statue on or around Opening Day next year."

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 1:30 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 229

At first I was like...who the heck is Richard Kind...? If that's the guy, than Rick did a perfect description, "you'd know if you saw him." The name was not familiar, but the face definitely is.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 1:39 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 230

We traveled to Chicago specifically to see a Stephen Sondheim work in progress called Bounce (alternately known as Wise Guys and Road Show). Richard Kind (center below) was playing Addison Mizner, one of the leads.

After the show we stayed for Q&A with the cast, which is what caused the timing to work out the way it did.


Kind was good. The show was not. But it was a thrill to see ideas being worked out (though they still haven't been; the show has yet to make it to Broadway, and may never).

Kind later played Van in Cars, who got lost after being unwilling to ask for directions. As spouse Mini explained, "He did the same thing on our trip to Shakopee. You know, we were headed over there for the Crazy Days." (It was an ad lib by Edie McClurg. Apparently there is no Crazy Days festival in Shakopee.)

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM by Rick 231

He was also in the Coen brothers movie before True Grit...I think Kind is from here too right?

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:24 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 232

I just looked at Opening Day tickets on Stubhub. How is it that some broker has 30 GA tickets on there? When did the Twins start selling those in bulk to brokers? I'm kind of mad about it to be honest.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:29 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 233

Found an article on ESPN.com about the Yankees signing Rafeal Soriano and how Cashman disagreed with it. That wasn't the important part.

There was a quote from their team president Randy Levine, stating "the club is running a "$5 billion" business and the team has a "sacred obligation" to its fans." He managed to acknowlege they were running a business, but also mentioned the fans in the same sentence.

It may just be good PR and he may be just blowing smoke up the fans asses', but it would be nice to here Dave St. Peter talk that way from time to time.

I understand they spent $91 million* last year on players but they could more than afford that with the additonal revenue form Target Field.

*That figure is their stated $103 million payroll, minus the $12 million of Joe Nathan's salary, which was covered by insurance.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:22 PM by Duffman Highlight this comment 234

If you notice, those 30 tickets for the Opener do not have barcodes listed for them. The seller stated the tickets will be available on April 2. If those 30 sell, the seller will clear over $1,500 after paying for SRO from the Twins.

If the seller is unable to purchase the SRO from the Twins, with that mark-up, they have a lot of $$$ to play with to buy SRO on the secondary market and still make out ok.

No doubt, they are taking a gamble. But on the other hand, every time a broker buys tickets he is taking a gamble.

While I don't think it is the case, I am sure that some of you are thinking that the listing for the 30 SRO was posted by the Twins. Are they taking an early stab at establishing the secondary market??? They did say that they will be offering variable pricing on a game by game, and even hour by hour basis. It is truely in their best interest to establish the bar as high as possible.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 5:19 PM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 235

So...It's not Vic Tayback?

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 6:03 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 236

what kevin said........

luke: serious question.....are you mentally challenged or something? what is your deal with some of the random (and often clueless) crap you come up with? again, serious question. not trying to make fun of you. Beta: serious answer...no. and, I can't be credited for all the "clueless" "crap" you see on this site.

p.s. you do realize that brooklyn center (a city) is NOT in minneapolis (a city) correct? so why in the world would the city of minneapolis ever have been concerned with promoting a mall complex such as brookdale that is not even within the minneapolis city limits? that is your argument here in taking lame cheap shots at minneapolis? really? that would be like saying the city of minneapolis should go out of its way to promote ridgedale IN the city of minnetonka. why? Beta: what I failed to interject in that statement is HOW a building like a stadium can inject revenue in the city in which it is located. You made it seem like a stadium couldn't possibly inject any sort of substantial revenue that the city wouldn't benefit from in other areas. That, in my estimation is false. Correct, Brooklyn Center is a suburb of Minneapolis. The point I was laboring to make was that a new stadium can inject the revenue that will promote further development.

p.p.s get a clue luke.....stop, breathe and think before you type some of your random musings in the middle of the night. random? No. I was just answering your questions. you know as well as I do the conversation can get, slightly off topic around here

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 6:32 PM by luke Highlight this comment 237

So Pavano for 2 years, $16.5 million, a lot cheaper than everyone thought.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 6:42 PM by Duffman Highlight this comment 238

hello everyone, how how is everyone?

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 7:14 PM by ulyssesp2 Highlight this comment 239

the PHX area gets those games not only becuse of the new stadium they have in glendale.. 1 is always on Tempe in a old stadium the cards used to play in.. its the weather, the area, there are only so many things to do in the twin cities on feb 1st.. all of them are inside.. most super bowls are not played in "new" stadiums new orleans, pasadena, san diego, miami ect... sure we would get one super bowl..ONE thats it and ack to the rose bowl 16 more times before we get another.. there is a reason i have been to PHX 4 times in the last 12 months.. its warm nice and a getaway from the cold.. this is not true of mpls i would not go to minnesota for a super bowl and spend prob what would amount to 5-7k on a vacation for 2 for a game and partying indoors for a weekend.. thats why im already booked in ft myers march 8-15 warm weather goes with vacations in turn goes with making you want to spen more MONEY.

now some one please do what you do and tear down my opinion. cuz it always happens from the new breed of know it alls on this site..

vikes dont need a roof, and we dont need to pay for it, just for 1 super bowl, 1 final four and a handfull of sweet 16 rounds in the life of the stadium..

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 7:21 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 240

Luke,

If i see you are TF this year i will A)be nice and buzzed B)have to hold back the urge to punch you in the head.. not the face.. your head..

I will be at about 25 games this year.. same as last so you do the math..

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 7:24 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 241

I'd like to recommend an article. January 17 print edition of SI, with the Auburn/Oregon game on the cover. It is about the reasons for home field advantage in sports and is excerpted from a soon to be released book called Scorecasting: The Hidden Influences Behind How Sports are Played and Games Are Won. Definitely food for thought.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 7:32 PM by robin Highlight this comment 242

Super Bowl talk reminds me of something better: the All-Star game. Anything new on Target Field chances? 2014 was mentioned often as a likely time.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 7:35 PM by robin Highlight this comment 243

Back to Pavano - yes, 2 yrs/16.5M IS a lot cheaper than most were expecting. Twins did well to wait this out, as they kept both the years and money short. Very nice deal, imo.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 8:04 PM by br Highlight this comment 244

Punch the guy in the head? Yikes! I guess we better watch what we write around here.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 8:17 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 245

I may be in the minority, but I think the Twins payroll has grown a lot in the last couple years and after the Pavano signing according to ESPN: "Twins' projected Opening Day payroll to about $115 million, which would more than double their Opening Day payroll from 2008.

That stat shows the Twins ARE using the Target Field additional revenue to their advantage. We will never be the Yankees, Red Sox, or other big market teams. The Twins are in contention EVERY year. Again, I may be in the minority, but I'm happy if my favorite team is playing meaningful games in September. This makes it fun to be a fan. I don't expect a World Series every year.

Robin - I read that SI article and also found it excellent. Great call.

This winter seems so much longer - either I'm getting older (true), or I am getting more excited for this season than even last season. I've been to Target Field, I KNOW how unbelivably awesome all my trips were last year, and I can't WAIT to get back!!

Luckily, my wife works at a certain place in Rochester that is having a private visit from the Twins caravan. I'm fired up to see Gardy, Span, and TC in less than two weeks.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 8:40 PM by ole Highlight this comment 246

Kev - I choose a) nice and buzzed. Cause I don't think you're the type of person that would hit anyone.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 9:08 PM by luke Highlight this comment 247

There will be fans that complain either way...either the Twins overpaid on some player or else they don't pay enough for players...as ole mentioned, its a FACT that the Twins will have a top 10 payroll in MLB in 2011 (maybe top 12, not sure of exact ranking at this moment...they were #11 on Opening Day 2010)...You also need to remember that Mauer ($23M), Morneau ($15M), Nathan ($11M) and Cuddyer ($10.5M) alone will make a combined $60 million this year. More than half of the projected payroll for just four players...two of which are trying to rebound from injuries.

I think they may have overpaid a bit on Capps, but he may end up being the closer depending on Nathan's return from Tommy John.

I think Valencia and Delmon Young are going to have big years in 2011. I am also happy to see Nick Punto gone and am excited to see Tsuyoshi Nishioka.

Not sure yet about the rotation, but am glad Pavano is coming back since he was the only consistent pitcher last year and he pitches a lot of innings.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 10:12 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 248

Hey Luke, Kev wasn't the one making vailed threats. perhaps you need to reread the posts. I'd hate to hear that you were maintaining a wary eye for one guy while another came up and bashed you one.

Posted on January 19, 2011 at 10:38 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 249

Maz: where are you staying in Fort Myers? Extra bunk for your pal Luke?

RE: Bert not signing HOF etc.

There is a reason that he has campaigned so hard for HOF induction over the years. It is worth huge bucks for the rest of their lives.

Anyone going to the Diamond Awards next week at Target Field in the Legends Club? I'll be there...

Posted on January 20, 2011 at 01:12 AM by Max Highlight this comment 250

lol Max

Posted on January 20, 2011 at 07:41 AM by luke Highlight this comment 251

I am more interested in what the roster will look like next year...a lot of money coming off the books. Almost $20MM between our two closers, another $11MM from Cuddyer. Hopefully Joe Benson is ready by 2012, because if we don't try and re-sign Cuddy then we would have some serious cash to play with.

In regard to the SRO's, I didn't think the Twins were listing them--but did they start selling SRO's in season ticket blocks? I wouldn't be surprised if they did, but the only people that would want a years worth would be scalpers.

Posted on January 20, 2011 at 08:56 AM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 252

I think Luke has had too many blows to the head already.

Posted on January 20, 2011 at 08:57 AM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 253

Now they are saying the Metrodome roof might not be fixed until August...something is suspicious with this whole issue.

They are blaming the cold weather for not being able to inspect the roof. They keep pushing back the deadline for the lab results from inspecting the torn panels.

This whole thing is just getting more and more suspicious and I think the Vikings honestly do not want to play another game in that facility and I am becoming more and more convinced the Vikings have played their last game in that facility. This will definitely be an interesting topic to follow over the next few months, especially with the issues at the State Capitol.

Obviously they are trying to prolong this roof issue as long as possible to see what happens in St. Paul this legislative session.

There was a major freeway interstate bridge collapse in August 2007 and they had a brand new bridge built and opened on the same spot just 1 year and 17 days later on September 18, 2008.

Posted on January 20, 2011 at 12:20 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 254

Since the Vikings don't control the facility, how is it suspicious? They may or may not want to play in the dome again but the team/owners don't really have anything to do with the timeline for repairs, etc. It would be in the best interests of the sports facilities commission to NOT drag their feet on things.

The bridge is not really a comparable event, either. Once the debris was cleared they built a new one. They are trying to repair the dome roof in the midst of one of the snowiest winters in recent memory.

Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:32 PM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 255

With the roof estimates being pushed back farther and farther, at what point do they look at TCF Bank Stadium and decide to attempt to retrofit it with field heating coils?

Posted on January 20, 2011 at 2:17 PM by Duffman Highlight this comment 256

When you really think about it, how many times does paying a fortune for a trading deadline ace ever get you a World Series title? It seems more often homegrown pitching wins.

Phillies won the WS with Hamels (homegrown). They didn't win with Lee, or Halladay. Texas didn't with Lee. Brewers didn't with Sabathia. Giants won WS (w/homegrown young staff).

Hopefully the Twins let K. Gibson show his stuff this year. He's Hard throwing and Naive like 2006 Liriano was.

Posted on January 20, 2011 at 2:58 PM by Jon (aka Hops) Highlight this comment 257

Kev - that might be true, after banging my head against a wall repeatedly after not getting OD tickets at TF last year...lol.

Posted on January 20, 2011 at 5:05 PM by luke Highlight this comment 258

I can't help but wonder if the MSFC isn't dragging their feet on the Metrodome thing simply because they'd like to have a new toy to play with.

Posted on January 20, 2011 at 5:35 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 259

Luke,

Don't do it again this year. Check out Stub Hub, Ticket Traders, Ticket King or a host of other secondary markets. As we are learning from Morneau, head injuries are serious and they can be lasting.

Posted on January 20, 2011 at 6:08 PM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 260

clublevel, I can't believe you...you listed a slew of secondary markets, and didn't put Rick's creation, TCTraders first...lol??

Posted on January 20, 2011 at 6:17 PM by luke Highlight this comment 261

Anyone else having trouble with the board? Watch this post but my other thing won't...

Posted on January 20, 2011 at 7:11 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 262

Yep, just my other post...hmm

Posted on January 20, 2011 at 7:11 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 263

luke,

I think clublevelfan just typed "Ticket Traders" when he really meant "TC Traders". He was active on the service all through last season, and has told me he will be again this year.

AJ,

Describe the trouble you're having. Nothing is amiss as far as I know, but certain content in posts does trigger spam filtering.

I'm actually pretty proud of my spam filtering, which has already zapped 520 attempts in this thread alone.

I just checked and didn't find anything filtered that wasn't actually spam.

Posted on January 20, 2011 at 10:19 PM by Rick 264

Richard Kind? I was on a show with him once. Nice guy.

Posted on January 20, 2011 at 11:51 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 265


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Upper deck view of the out-of-town scoreboard.






Look! Speakers!



The art panels on the Fifth Street facade as viewed from the top of the Minnekahda building.



Staircase entrance. You cannot miss them.









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Nathan greeting the other pitchers on the all-Metrodome team (October 4, 2009)



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Usher Anna hands out Homer Hankies



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