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April 22, 2010 11:42 AM

What century is this again?

Because I just grabbed a streetcar (er, bus) in front of my house and I'm headed down to watch an afternoon baseball game in a small urban ballpark tucked into a busy corner of a major American city.

And what city is this again? Because I think I may be actually seeing the best team in baseball playing on that spectacular expanse of local grass.

If this is some sort of marvelous dream, please don't wake me up!

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It is a century that came with spellcheck. Kidding Rick. Kidding.

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM by moda253 Highlight this comment 1

I was a little thick-thumbed on the bus...

By the way, I'm sitting at the top of the aisle between 323 and 324. Beautiful skyline view, but the plate seems a long way away...

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 12:48 PM by Rick 2

Save your ticket stub. Future HOFer Drew Butera with his 1st MLB hit...

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 12:56 PM by Max Highlight this comment 3

Hey, that was Bruce Lambrecht on the big board. And the song playing? "They paved paradise and put up a parking lot..."

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 1:01 PM by Rick 4

rick - that seems kinda... dickish

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 1:07 PM by CJ Highlight this comment 5

That would be Joni Mitchell --- "Big Yellow Taxi".

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 1:08 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 6

Some insider knowledge here...The Twins are planning to add plaques by each player statue on the plaza. Its a nice additition in my opinion since not everyone knows who those players are.

Also I was watching the game last night on FSN and noticed someone sliding what looked like green wooden tiles with a white "K" onto a strikeout board during the game for every strikeout Liriano had. I could not tell where this was located from watching it on T.V. Is this strikeout board part of Target Field or was it someone's personal doing? Its just something that I have not noticed yet.

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 1:15 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 7

Strikeout board is on the front of the upper level in left-center. Maybe section 233?

It only goes up to 10 K's, though - I'd like to see a day where they run out of space!

Enjoy the game, Rick!

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 1:19 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 8

Yeah, I noticed that guy, too. After sliding in yet another 'K," he sat down and went back to his popcorn. Didn't seem to be wearing any official uniform, or anything. Could this perhaps be a daily honorary thing, like the US flag raiser?

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 1:27 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 9

Not dickish at all. The joke is, of course, that they tore up a parking lot to build a paradise. Funny. (Bruce was laughing.)

I'm in the sun now in 324. Too cool and breezy way up at the top.

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 1:35 PM by Rick 10

if bruce was laughing then it's all good - i appreciate the irony - that's for sure.

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 1:39 PM by CJ Highlight this comment 11

In regards to the K sign. I think it just goes down the row and whoever is sitting there gets to swap it. I think they then go down the front row of seating and let people flip them. I haven't been sitting close enough to tell for sure.

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 1:43 PM by Schda Highlight this comment 12

I'm sorry, but my mousing hand is wore out from searching this site:

What is included with a Legends Club seat? (Legend's Club? Legends' Club?) I have a chance at buying a couple of LC tickets, but need to justify the price. Complimentary food included? Access to exclusive areas included? I do know that it's one of the best views in the place...

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 1:53 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 13

Great outing by moonshot Scott. The Twins offense cant anything going in this series, they are winning with smoke and mirrors!

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 1:53 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 14

What happens when somebody accidently drops their K plate? Someone might take one in the dome.

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 1:57 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 15

Schweady: Exclusive access to the Puckett/Carew Atrium's which have bars and a pregame buffet for $19.95. Also have fireplaces, leather chairs, lots of space (unlike the main concourse), hightop stools to watch the game from inside the climate controlled Club Level. Little to no lines for concessions (especially nice for Kramarczuks, Murrays steak sandwich, Vincent burger, or other items that take a longer prep time). I've also run into several former Twins in the LC including Hrbek, Killebrew, Molitor, Gene Larkin, Koskie, Roy Smalley. The 573 Club is located behind home plate on the LC level with an outside patio and real nice bar setup. No lines for bathrooms is also an added bonus. Oh and waiter/waiteress service in your seats (only sunflower seeds/peanuts for food, but a huge drink menu to have delivered to you).

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 2:15 PM by Max Highlight this comment 16


Posted on April 22, 2010 at 2:21 PM by Rick 17

Thanks, Max. Sounds like a good time. It's maybe a bit of a $$tretch, but a celebration is in order: Retirement from 33 years of teaching looms in just a month...

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 2:46 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 18

Rick..That looks like my 306 Row 1 seats?

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 4:31 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 19

Steve,

I was directly beneath you, eating a cheeseburger at the drink rail behind section 206.

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 4:37 PM by Rick 20

I wasn't there but the view looked dam close..

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 4:40 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 21

Nothing yet from the "bouncer" I'll give it a few more days...

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 4:40 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 22

The new Target field is great! Definitely go check it out!!

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 4:50 PM by MLB C [Spam] Highlight this comment 23

Pics of new Target Field!

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Posted on April 22, 2010 at 4:51 PM by MLB C [Spam] Highlight this comment 24

FWIW concession speed is as bad in LC as everywhere else. Stood in line for 10 minutes behind one guy today while they tried to figure out change for a big bill.

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 5:08 PM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 25

MLB C [Spam], did your Delorean miscalculate? A story in your blog for April 22, using pictures from a Gopher game in late March?

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 5:33 PM by tk Highlight this comment 26

Sorry, MLB C dude. Contribute a little, OK, then I promise not to delete your spammish links.

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 5:48 PM by Rick 27

Just got back from my first game at TF, and there was one thing I noticed that I have yet to see pointed out here (though it's possible I missed it in the mix)-

The left field LED ribbon board. It's colors are visibly less vibrant than the other LED boards in the park. The board is dull from the Admin building to the batters eye (the board directly at the batters eye is normal brightness). Does anyone know why the LF board is dull? Was it an accident, or is there some rhyme or reason behind it?

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 6:06 PM by ace Highlight this comment 28

Good observation Ace, my only guess would be to the possible distraction to the hitter.

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 6:35 PM by tk Highlight this comment 29

Dullness could also be reflections of the sun off the board. I didn't notice it being any less bright last night.

Had a great time last night at the game. Sat in 318, really great veiw of everything, walked down behind the visitor dugouts and heckled Mike Redmond during Clevelands batting practice. He hammed it up for us a bit.

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 7:07 PM by Bandgeek Highlight this comment 30

Today I was bumming around watching the game from standing room around the ballpark. I saw that there were some seats open next to the overhang (not the bleachers) and dang, those seats ARE skinny.

I've never been one to complain about seat width even at the metrodome but those seats are crazy skinny. I'm 6'0 200 and it was comfortable but anyone bigger than me would not like it at all.

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 7:52 PM by Boof Highlight this comment 31

With the talk about ticket pricing increases, I would hope the Twins would follow a model set forth by the Brewers. Having non-existing fans pay a little more on tickets. If you send a competitive team to the plate, people will pay. Might keep your STH participants up and still make profit on planned trips/walk-up sales.

I also like having an Existing STH price and New STH price. However, look at the mark-up on some of their prices for the MARQUEE games. Click Name for link.

Field Diamond Box seats that cost $68.00/ticket for STH, cost the public $199.00!

I wonder how well the Brewers sell these seats for the Marquee games. They obviously can and will, as Cubs and Twins fans travel well!

We will just have to wait and see if the new stadium now keeps people close to home this summer. We still plan on taking our annual baseball roadtrip.

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 8:41 PM by tk Highlight this comment 32

I had my trusty tape measure with me in my camera bag (where it will stay from now on). In section 324, row 14, where my ticket was, the seats were 17 inches wide at their narrowest point.

Contrast that with section 318, row 10, where I ended the game, and the seats were 18 inches wide at their narrowest point.

You might not think one inch means much, but it was a noticeable difference between too skinny and quite comfortable.

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 8:58 PM by Rick 33

That seems really odd, Rick. Why would the seats be 1 inch wider when they're in the same level only a few sections away from each other?

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 10:38 PM by amputechture Highlight this comment 34

Through my own ineptness, I'm sure, I am unable to get registered on TC Traders. I would like to pay the fee and get registered. Might have some good quality/value tickets to sell on occasion, and buy at other times. I will be gone for 4 days, including tomorrow night at Fenway Park (first time!), with limited internet access. Maybe when I get back, I can get some mentoring before the May 1 deadline. If I get a chance I will check in on this wonderful site before that.

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 10:41 PM by robin Highlight this comment 35

Robin,

Drop me an email and I'll walk you through it now! (Looks like you may need to clear your cookies.)

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 10:53 PM by Rick 36

thanks. I have a morning flight though, and am not finished getting ready, so will have to wait till I return probably. (I'm a slow learner too).

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 11:42 PM by robin Highlight this comment 37

For those of you that have not made it to TF yet, click name for a video walk from the light rail to 7th Street on the promenade. Nothing exciting but it may give you an impression.

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 11:48 PM by Buzz Highlight this comment 38

Click for another video walking along 7th street to gate 29 on Wednesday, April 21.

Posted on April 22, 2010 at 11:51 PM by Buzz Highlight this comment 39

" --- the seats were 17 inches wide --- "

What of the Twins' claim of a minimum of 19"?

"Why would the seats be 1 inch wider when they're in the same level only a few sections away from each other?"

At the dome I found up to four different widths within small areas of given sections. It was not uncommon to have a difference of up to four inches (yes, I said four inches) from one seat to the next. I have not taken a tape measure to any seats at TF yet but it is clear from just trying out various seats that a similar situation exists there - and I did find seats that would be unacceptable to persons of even normal girth. This is probably my greatest disappointment about the park and quite contrary to what the team's claims in this regard were.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 12:30 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 40

---If all goes well Nordeast Beer coming to TF this summer---

http://wcco.com/local/nordeast.beer.schell.2.1650221.html

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 12:21 AM by sw Highlight this comment 41

After my measuring today, I believe that the quoted widths might actually include the armrests -- or at least one of them.

It makes sense that, when you're designing a stadium, you have to count the width of a given seat from the inside edge of one armrest to the outside edge of the other. That's the only way you can account for the full width needed for placement of the seat.

Since this yields a larger number than the ass-width between the armrests, it also makes sense that the marketing department would latch onto such a number when speaking about fan comfort.

I remember hearing that many seats at TF would be 22 inches wide and immediately measuring my office chair for comparison. It's 21 inches wide between the armrests. And I even remember writing that I'd never sat in a stadium seat anywhere near as roomy as my office chair, so something had to be amiss.

If called on it, the team can reasonably claim that they need to use that number because of "industry standards" and the need to create an apples-to-apples comparison with a previous venue. (Yeah, it's weasely.)

As happens, Marketing and Truth do not quite match.

The takeaway -- at least for me -- was that 17 inches was not quite comfortable, but 18 inches was, and that different widths may be found relatively close to one another, even within the same pricing area.

Everybody will be different, and we're going to need to do some documentation to help people figure out where the most comfortable seats actually can be found.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 01:02 AM by Rick 42

"As happens, Marketing and Truth do not quite match."

BINGO!!!!!

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 01:18 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 43

Not going to lie, Nordeast beer was extremely disappointing given all the hype for it.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 01:42 AM by Nate Highlight this comment 44

not going to lie.....but nate really doesn't know what he is talking about. you know......that's just my opinion and all.

ben - let us know when you finally take that giant stick out of your arse. it is like you are on some strange "i told you so" crusade against the twins that no one really seems to care about or really "get" except for yourself. but you keep on fighting the good fight if that is how you get your kicks.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 01:56 AM by Betaband Highlight this comment 45

Nate-

I am going to reserve my opinion about Nordeast until I try it. My expections for it are incredibility low since it is made by Grain Belt, and Premium is aweful.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 03:18 AM by Duffman Highlight this comment 46

Beta ---

I have no crusade - I just prefer facts over drool.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 03:42 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 47

"That seems really odd, Rick. Why would the seats be 1 inch wider when they're in the same level only a few sections away from each other?"

Most of the sections in the ball park are somewhat pie shape. Some more noticeable than others. The higher up you go in a section, the more seats that are added in each row. Prior to making the jump of adding either one or two seats to a row, they will incease the width of the seats to fill the space.

As you select seats, a general rule is the best (widest) seats will be in the last row right before they add more seats to the row. You never want to sit in the first row with the extra seat(s). They will be the narrowest.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 07:16 AM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 48

Grain Belt Premium is awful? I think most would disagree.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 07:52 AM by luckylager Highlight this comment 49

I went to the game yesterday with my dad and even though the Twins sucked it was still awesome. It was my first twins game,although I was at the gopher game. I noticed that my dad and I when we were up in the upper concourse it was a little chilly but from our seats in the sun on the skyline deck it was quite warm. My dad even had to move for a while because he said he was getting a headache from the sun. Also after the game, which we had taken the LRT from 28th street lot, we were standing in line to get on the light rail when we saw about two or three workers holding big signs. It turns out that on a weekday game at 12:10 the city and Twins want to get all fans out the ballpark area as soon as possible so the y line up all kinds of buses that you can take for free to either the 28th street lot, Fort Snelling lot, or MOA. What a great idea so we took the bus back to our lot.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 08:24 AM by Tom D. Highlight this comment 50

FWIW concession speed is as bad in LC as everywhere else. Stood in line for 10 minutes behind one guy today while they tried to figure out change for a big bill.

I work concessions for a NPO at TF. Love IT especially the portables because you can see the game when there isn't a line to service! But the cash registers are dumb. They are not like the dome where one key punch and you get the till and change. Once you get used to it it's fine but if you've never done it before its confusing as hell to figure out how to enter cash. They are very credit card biased and register training for volunteer NPO workers is non-existent and that is all who works those things. The FT DNC workers are all cooking or managing the stands but they get the POS system training. DNC by the way is a big step up from Center Plate but they take getting used to and there are quite a few bugs still. But I think every game it's getting better from a worker POV. I haven't been a fan yet so curious to know what it's been like for people that have been a few games

NPO = Non-Profit Organization
DNC = Delaware North
POS = Point of Sale

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 09:04 AM by j2eepgmr Highlight this comment 51

Tom, I had my 86 year old man out to see the new target field and was in the sun in the skyline view 3rd deck also. It did get quite warm up there as we were both in short sleves! Saw lots of school buses parked along 5th street as they had taken my secret parking spots. I was wondering if those were the busses being used to shuttle or maybe they had a bunch of school kids out there for a field trip. Great day for a game too bad the game itself was not all that great.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 09:41 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 52

j2, did notice that the 3rd level concession stands were not near as busy as the ones on level 1 or 2. At the ends of the sections 301 and 327 not busy at all including the restrooms!

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 09:45 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 53

twinkfan-yea i noticed that too, it was nice!

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 09:50 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 54

yeah, I've only worked on third level portable stands and the busiest one for me was the nacho stand at section 217/317 near the twins pub but yes it is less crowded up there.

I've gotta say too that I like the crowds. Very excited and very patient right now as we work through bugs in the concessions. I don't think that will last if things don't get better but I know we appreciate very much the fan's patience.

Another observation... I worked the Royal's game on Sunday and even though it was a blow out the fans stayed around... That's probably the lure of the new stadium but I hope it stays all season. What was cool was that with the blow out the fans stayed and a bunch walked around to see the sights and when the bottom of the 7th started to appear to have some late inning heroics everyone walking around would just walk up to the edge of the concourses and watch. So its nice that the stadium provides those sight lines from the concourses. That doesn't replace the experience from the seats but the energy on the concourses is refreshing. And from a stand working POV it's much more entertaining.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 10:13 AM by j2eepgmr Highlight this comment 55

Tom D - are those "express buses" for weekday day games only? I would hope they would eventually add those express buses for all games. Nice alternative for those parking at MOA, 28th Street or Fort Snelling.

I take the express bus from the Fort Snelling Park and Ride lot for Vikings games and it totally beats the light rail.

I also noticed an empty three-car train sitting in front of Sneaky Pete's on Wednesday night after the game on its way to Target Field. Perhaps we will start seeing more of the three-car trains?

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 10:19 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 56

No luckylager,
he said Grain Belt Premium is aweful, not awful. He obviously likes it quite a bit, as he in fully in awe of it. He also said that his expections for Nordeast are incredibility low...whatever that means...must be some strange mix of something he's inspected and something he has expectations for that also has the ability to be incredible.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 10:49 AM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 57

Doh!
and as I make fun of someone else's typos, I write "as he in fully in awe..."

...is!

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 10:51 AM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 58

Does anyone know why the TC behind home is only in white instead of the normal red and white?

It seems a bit odd considering the "opening day" logos down the baselines had color in them.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 11:00 AM by Karl Highlight this comment 59

(Now, you all be nice to Karl!)

Karl,

That is, I think, the single most frequently asked question ever on this site. Yet, since there's no FAQ page here (because nobody ever reads such pages), I'm happy to answer it again.

The solid white coloring of the TC logo behind home plate at Target Field is meant to honor the original Twins logo from the first ever season of Twins baseball.

(Hopefully I've put enough keywords into that sentence that it will come up whenever someone searches for an answer to that question -- though I fully expect that one of us will be answering it again.)

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 11:12 AM by Rick 60

yeah, I've wondered that too. Because the normal TC logo is blue and red, at least when it's on a white background. When it's on a blue background, it's white and red (like on the caps). When it's on a red background, it's blue and white. I guess I've never seen it on a green background, so maybe they're starting a new tradition?!?!?!? I've been thinking about this for weeks! We should start a congressional INVESTIGATION.

(sorry Rick. I disobeyed your orders)

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 11:20 AM by Elston Gunn Highlight this comment 61

j2, thanks for your comments. I'm glad to have someone that can actually address these issues on this forum. To be truthful, the issue here was a combination of really bad planning on the manager's part (he took all of the cash for change out of the drawer right before we walked up). Then it took 5-10 minutes to get him to come back with the cash he just took out of it.

And to be totally frank, compounding the issue was a rather lackadaisacal (sp?) attitude by both the employee and manager. As far as I could tell these were both regular employees.

As far as it getting better, my concern is that when visiting Kansas City and St. Louis, there was a similar lack of urgency by the concession staff there, and those parks have been open plenty long. The point being I think the issue is 1 part technical, and 2 parts lack of training and/or focus on the part of the employees...

It amazes me the Twins aren't more in tune with this. It seems to me one three hour training session with all the employees ordering imaginary food from each other would go a long way in fixing the problem.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 11:25 AM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 62

Regarding the logo, I did have the thought that with Grass and paint, the team would have the flexibility to change the logo mid season very easily.

Does anyone know if they did anything to remove the Opening Day logos besides a combination of rain and letting the grass grow and mowing? It didn't look like it, and those are basically gone now.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 11:26 AM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 63

A guy in the stands the other night wondered aloud whether the Twins would return to the Dump for post-season play. Interesting question if you think about it for a moment - the dome would have some comfort advantages not to mention that MLB would almost certainly covet those extra 15,000 seats if such a thing were not impossible. Has this contingency been addressed anywhere?

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 11:32 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 64

I will go on record as one who LOVES the all-white 'TC' logo and see no need for change. (I'm actually wondering if it would look as good with a red 'C' on the green grass background.)

Best comeback I've seen to a Skankee fan who was complaining that the all-white logo behind the plate is just 'trying to copy' the look on their home field: "If the Twins were really trying to imitate or somehow honor your team's logo, don't you think they would have been intelligent enough to use an 'N' and a 'Y'?"

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 11:37 AM by schweady Highlight this comment 65

Ben,
the thought has crossed my mind on occasion over the past few years as well, but I just can't imagine that with a new ballpark (possibly, probably, the best modern ballpark in baseball), and a new place of their own, that the Twins would ever agree to something like that. The team wouldn't want to play in some place that would actually be - gasp - unfamiliar like the dome! The players will be used to their own unique and new home field advantage, playing caroms off of the different materials on TF's right field wall, playing the more shallow foul territory, the slightly different outfield wall dimensions, not to mention having a feel for the way fly balls carry in the open air. All of these things lead to a home field advantage that the Twins would actually be giving up! By this October, they will have played 81 games at TF, and will have not played in the dome in about a year. That in and of itself would almost make the dome a neutral site, (save for the fan noise...)
The MLB might like the idea, if not only for revenue purposes, and the media would certainly like the idea, just for the ridiculous story it would create (imagine all the speculation about the Twins' wanting their dome-field-advantage, despite how overblown that whole thing was...didn't I read that the Twins didn't even have the best home field advantage in the dome amongst winning teams?)
Suffice it to say, it probably won't happen. And it if does, you can bet there will be a lot of pissed off Twins and a lot of pissed off fans.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 11:50 AM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 66

Odd... I hear that if it's chilly at Fenway, the Sox will host playoff games at the Gahden...

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 11:53 AM by schweady Highlight this comment 67

Rick,

Sorry for the dumb question. I've been visiting this site since Bat Girl linked to it and read it every day and I guess I never caught that question before. Helluva job on the site-love it minus everyone on here who just bitch in the comments section.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 11:55 AM by Karl Highlight this comment 68

The question about returning to the dome has been clearly addressed by the Twins, but I can't remember where. It was clear that they will NEVER play in the dome again.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 12:07 PM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 69

i'm w/ you, schweady, on the white logo, but i think it looks extra classy when they outline the home-plate circle in white chalk. they don't do that for every game for some reason (i bet rick knows why...).

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 12:07 PM by yeahklye Highlight this comment 70

That "playoffs in the dome" rumor belongs about three weeks ago on April Fools Day. Utterly ridiculous.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 12:18 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 71

yeah, they would go to Milwaukee before returning to the dome. The field is no longer approved by MLB.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 12:26 PM by Elston Gunn Highlight this comment 72

Karl's post makes me yearn for the days of Bat Girl musings. I think the only thing that could make this already potentially special season even better would be the return of Bat Girl.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 12:35 PM by ew Highlight this comment 73

I noticed they outline the home plate circle for night games. I've noticed it at every other park now.

What's that all about, great baseball minds?

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 12:56 PM by Andy1108 Highlight this comment 74

I miss Bat Girl too - especially the Lego people reenactments.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 1:11 PM by luckylager Highlight this comment 75

For those who might have missed Bat Girl, click the link. The site hasn't been updated for about 3 years, but is still entertaining for sure.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 1:18 PM by luckylager Highlight this comment 76

My thoughts on my first Target Field experience on 4/15/10 against the Red Sox. Overall it was a great day!!

1. The Carew statue has no connection to the plaza. My wife was inches from it as we walked up the 7th street side and didn't even notice it. During the game she asked where are those statues on the plaza?

2. Plaza was great, crowded, but in a good way. The plaza flowed seamlessly into the ballpark. Had a beer and Angie's Kettle Corn. That was some good stuff.

3. The concourses were very crowed before the start of the game, but by the 2nd inning when we went to get some food, it took less than 5 minutes. We were in section 110. The concourses are missing character, "the Twins touch," in my opinion. I know they are going for a modern clean look, but it just looks very sterile when its not crowded with people. I would like to see some murals, color, or even the red awnings like they should in some of the original renderings. The clubs and restaurants have such personality. I just don't see that in the concourses.

4. The concession signs look much better in person. I do wish they change the signs with pictures of food on them. It looks tacky.

5. The sound coming for the speakers were so loud in my seats. I was in section 110 row 22. I know the Twins are working on this issue.

6. Love the bright shirts the vendors wear. You are able to see them much better than at the dome.

7. We had cheese curds, Twins Big Dog, and a pretzel. My wife enjoyed the cheese curds, the Big Dog was nothing special but a good deal. I just wish I didn't have to get it with a bag of chips.

8. My wife questioned why the had cellphone charging stations on the concourse. She found out before we left when I had to charge my phone.

9. Section 110, row 22. Seats were nice, definitely an inch or two of more leg room, but the same width as the Metrodome seats. The only obstruction was no sun. Those Legend Club seats.

10. Hrbek's was completely dead during the 3rd and 4th inning. Enjoyed a beer, watched the game on the T.V. for an inning. Great feel to it in my opinion, memrobilia all around, very cozy feel. Roughly around the 6th inning people starting filtering back in and by the end of the game it was packed.

11. Loved the view from the Powerball Pavilion. If so many people didn't complain about the actual seats, I would most definitely want to sit there to take in a game.

12. Why do we need Best Buy sponsored gaming stations?

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 1:23 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 77

I'm gonna go ahead and put a target on my back and say I'd like to se the old 'm' logo behind homeplate next year ;]

When at Target Field on wednesday night for the first time(GREAT GAME btw) after getting through the concourse between sections 103 and 109, much of the concourse was very easy to travel through, but I already made my point, the concourse between section 103 and 109 was as bad as it ever was at the metrodome. I thought at first because it was because it's where gate 34 and gate 29 run into each other but it was the same way from the 1st inning through the 8th, (I bet jax loves that with his season tix). The only other crowded areas I really saw was the kramarczuk sausage stand (which was wrapped around twice) lol.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 1:38 PM by Jcm-Baseball Highlight this comment 78

Hey ew,
what about the return of firejoemorgan? I think that, along with batgirl would be the icing on the cake.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 1:51 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 79

I'm with you on the old "M" Jcm. It takes me back to the Puckett days of my childhood.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 1:55 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 80

Some thoughts regarding my trip to Oakland-Alameda County Stadium:

Definitely a product of its era. Very heavy on the use of concrete.
Options, when it came to food, were suprisingly good.
Not so much with restrooms, as they were difficult to locate at times.
Tipped my cap to their incorporation of history: Phil A's WS banners.
BART subway was a definite plus despite the ballpark's industrial view
Essentially the scoreboards were the same size/quality as the Dome's.
Gift shops were bountiful. Almost seemed like it was overkill.
Asphalt parking lots but no tailgating?? Unfortunate.
Yankee fans are obnoxious, no matter which ballpark they invade.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 2:02 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 81

I saw an A's game at the Coliseum back in September. Much like the Twins in their final years at the Dome, they are doing the most they can with the limited resources at their disposal. However, that stadium is a lost cause and they desperately need a new one. Unfortunately the political will to get anything done in the Bay Area roughly equates that of Minnesota's regarding a Twins stadium circa 1999.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 2:06 PM by Jorge Highlight this comment 82

True Jorge...

I asked a few fans about the political situation when I was there. (I was donning my Morneau jersey.)
They said it's at a standstill at the moment.
They just don't want to see the team move to San Jose.
I counted at least three banners placed by fans pleading to "Keep the A's in Oakland."
With the state - what - $25 billion in debt - I don't see anything changing soon.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 2:10 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 83

I heard that the Twins are playing all home games against the White Sox this year at the Metrodome.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 2:17 PM by FD Highlight this comment 84

I'm sure Ozzie would be onboard with that FD!!! He loved the Dome don't cha know!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 2:27 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 85

There is a spot on the edge of downtown Oakland near the harbor that many A's fans favor for a new ballpark. Apart from being close to those two centers, the freeway is right there and there is a BART station nearby. It's too bad the political and financial support for such a project isn't there.

Click on my name for an Oakland A's ballpark blog. There is a Target Field entry on the first page.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 2:31 PM by Jorge Highlight this comment 86

TTH,

Nice to know they acknowledge the history of the franchise prior to their arrival in Oakland. Wish the Twins had done more.

Any evidence of the A's stopover in Kansas City?

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 2:40 PM by Rick 87

Worthwhile piece in the Chicago Sun Times linked to at Gleeman.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 2:59 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 88

Not really Rick. The focus was on the championship years. I also forgot to mention there was a nice Irish bar in the place.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 3:01 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 89

Yeah, it's always a little awkward knowing how far back in time to go, but I really think that the flags in LF should have included the Senators' 1924 WS and their 1925 & 1933 AL championships. Maybe in grey.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 3:01 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 90

I would definitely have to agree with Jeff's first point. When I made my trip out to TF (same game, actually), I immediately noticed the that Mr. Carew's statue was just not in the logical place. Just a bit disappointing.

Just wanted to briefly share my TF story, too. I saw my first outdoor major league game when I saw the home team play Boston on the 15th, and I must say I was just in awe for all 9 innings. I'm a baseball traditionalist, and I always figured that I'd absolutely need to go to Wrigley one day. I'm not so sure that I need to do that now that TF is here!

Also, as a musician, the one thing oustide of the game that entranced me the most was the PA system. It was crystal clear!

Finaly, I've only posted a few times here, but just have to say that I really enjoy the site. I've been hitting it a ton the last few years, and I can gladly say that I've been sharing the TF love with all my buds up here in NoDak for a while now. Keep up the great work, Rick!

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 4:31 PM by DavidT Highlight this comment 91

I agree with Schweady, the Senators championships should be recognized too. The Nats don't seem to claim the legacy. The Senators accomplishments, though few, need to be remembered.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 4:33 PM by luckylager Highlight this comment 92

Schweady - I disagree. While the Twins technically evolved from the Senators, I don't think very many Twins fans really feel a connection with the Senator organization. I think the history of the Twins is good enough that we don't need to reach back that far.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 4:34 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 93

Fred,
These guys would disagree - they deserve to be remembered!

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM by luckylager Highlight this comment 94

in case anyone wanted more info on the picture I linked to, I found this interesting...

Fans of the era probably know "Germany" Schaefer as a bit of a clown but a very solid and popular deadball-era player (best known for supposedly "stealing first base") You can read more about him and his antics here:

http://bioproj.sabr.org/bioproj.cfm?a=v&v=l&bid=1734&pid=12553.

Also, don't know how true this is (from Wiki):

"Schaefer was a pioneer of baseball clowning, and his vaudeville act with teammate Charley O'Leary was inspiration for the MGM musical "Take Me Out To The Ball Game" starring Gene Kelly and Frank Sinatra."

On the left, Jacinto "Jack" [of course] Calvo, was a Cuban player who was both light (and dark) enough to play in both the Negro and White major leagues, back when that sort of thing mattered.

And Acosta, on the right, was apparently only 17 at the time this was snapped. He had a pretty lengthy career as a player for DC, Philadelphia, and the minors, as well as some minor league managing and at some point owned a Cuban league team.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 5:07 PM by luckylager Highlight this comment 95

luckylager: And isn't it sweet how Acosta's spikes and dental work match so perfectly?

Fred: Take it a step further, we wind up with thinking like that of like Jcm and theloniousjoe, who feel that Twins history need only go as far back as the 'M' and the Puckett era...

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 6:08 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 96

Heck, I'm for painting a 'W' back there on the next retro throwback day when the boys are wearing those godawful looking woolens...

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 6:11 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 97

luckylager - i wouldn't put too much thought into the beer comments from a guy who calls himself "duffman" and who apparently loves to drink beer with fruit in it (i think he is the one with an infatuation for leinenkugel's honey weiss).

also, if i recall correctly he was also the one who seemed incredibly dissappointed at the overall lack of wisconsin made beers (hint, hint) in a minneapolis ballpark (hmmmmm.....go figure there), so i am not too surprised at his general attitude towards minnesota made grain belt (which btw i wholeheartedly disagree with).

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 6:30 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 98

Beta,
I was thinking he was the Leinie's Shandy/Honey Weiss guy... my wife like those :) I try not to be a beer snob, I just try to buy local and luckily we have a lot of really good Minnesota beers to choose from.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 6:44 PM by luckylager Highlight this comment 99

Watching the KC game the camera seems so much closer...

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 7:11 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 100

From the sound of the cheers after Hudson's hit and Mauer coming to plate in the first inning, seems many Twins fans made the trip down to KC

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 7:15 PM by amputechture Highlight this comment 101

Lots of empty seats at Kansas City. I feel sorry for the Royals, there are probably more Twins fans there than Royals fans.

Anyone down there for the weekend? Wanna pick me up some KC bbq? *grin* (I lived in KC for a couple years back in the mid '80s, and fell in love with the ribs and burnt ends...)

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 7:30 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 102

When in KC...
LC's Barbecue
A local fave, this BBQ pit serves tantalizing burnt ends, double stacks, homemade sausages, and unforgettable French fries to an eclectic crowd of locals and tourists. Regulars rave about the service, and it's true that the waitstaff treats everybody, even out-of-towners, like long-lost kin. Before heading out the door, be sure to purchase a bottle of their famous "authentic" hot sauce for your own barbecue recipes.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 7:50 PM by luckylager Highlight this comment 103

I'm a fan of Smokestack (I think called "Jack Stack" now) down in Martin City. But seriously, you can't go wrong with any bbq joint in the KC area. Did you know they have laws as to what can and cannot be sold as 'bbq'? They take it pretty seriously down there!

Dang, I'm getting hungry just thinking about it!

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 8:15 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 104

God I love Bert, (http://www.facebook.com/joseph.kosowski?ref=profile),

I response to Dick asking him about the Dallas Braden-Alex Rodriguez incident yesterday:
http://oakland.athletics.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100422&content_id=9503546&vkey=news_oak&fext=.jsp&c_id=oak

"Alex Rodriguez, he's just arrogant...that's the word..."

"...I'd like to drill him...did I say that?"

-Bert Blyleven, future Hall of Famer

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 8:48 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 105

Another Blyleven gem:

Dick: "That's hit well to Center..."

Bert: "Yeah, but we got a man there."

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 8:50 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 106

Please do, Bert.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 9:07 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 107

Is anyone watching the Gopher baseball game at the Dome tonight on BTN?
I swear, there's probably about 100 people there.
And the Twins logo is still behind the plate

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 9:24 PM by luke Highlight this comment 108

Another First to note- The first save by the First aid staff at target field on a full arrest of a 60 year old lady on wednesday night. Way to beat the odds

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 10:50 PM by sw Highlight this comment 109

Somebody needs to go take these fools to school. clicky

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 10:53 PM by billymayshere Highlight this comment 110

Its strange to see that the Dome still has the championship and Twins retired number banners up still. But there isn't dirt around the bases anymore....just turf.

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 11:30 PM by ab21 Highlight this comment 111

HAHAHAHAHA, I almost lost it when I heard Bert say that, in fact I put that quote as my facebook status, I love Bert even more for saying that. I couldn't agree more, A-roid is just an arrogant pr*ck

Posted on April 23, 2010 at 11:43 PM by Jcm-Baseball Highlight this comment 112

BillyMay, interesting topic those *ahem* Royals fans came up with. Now, I love the 'K', but i've also been to Miller park, the 'old Jake', the 'old B.O.B and also the new Busch. My fav out of all was definately the 'K', until wednesday night. How arrogant can you be to say that a big Twins logo in center is not wordly? Are we supposed to have a camel or a giant soccer ball? Did this guy consider the giant CROWN ON TOP OF THEIR SCOREBOARD?! Quite the very thought and pointless thread if you ask me.. BTW, an ESPN stadium poll (pick your top 30 ballparks), the nation picked Target Field after seeing it opening day on ESPN. (I think the K was 17th or something
[IMG]http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i274/jcm028/26104_386225010799_615600799_447486.jpg[/IMG]

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 12:01 AM by Jcm-Baseball Highlight this comment 113

TWINS MAGIC NUMBER: 143

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 10:09 AM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 114

billymays, thanks for posting that.
"Cold and Sterile"??????? That would be 'the other place'.
and what the hell does "inward-looking" mean?? You mean, "inward-looking" as actually looking at the ball field instead of the sections of seats across from you, as we did in 'the other place'?

and apparently, he judges based on what he's seen on TV. TV doesn't do TF justice. Period.

At least WE can get butts in the seats and not have empty ones all over the damn ballpark - i.e. Kauffman Stadium.

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 11:07 AM by luke Highlight this comment 115

Is there an old joke that there are only two things wrong with Kaufmann stadium, the Royals play there and it is in Kansas City?

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 12:45 PM by Duffman Highlight this comment 116

Luke, this guy is describing Minnesotans in general as "inward looking," as in not concerned with anything going on with the rest of the world. Duff, thanks for that joke, I've added it to my response in that thread.

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 2:15 PM by billymayshere Highlight this comment 117

which will be posted in nine hours when my waiting period is up.

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 2:56 PM by billymayshere Highlight this comment 118

I love Neshek when he's on. People call Lincecum "the freak," but I think Neshek almost deserves the nickname more. The guy never stops moving. It's like he has three cups of coffee and two boxes of peeps every time before he goes out to pitch.

And Mauer's a HR shy of cycle.

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 8:15 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 119

Question: Would Neshek be susceptible to the balk if there are runners on base? Isn't part of the rule that a pitcher has to come to a "stop" for a second? With all his wiggling and moving around, he never seems to come to that 'stop'...

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 8:42 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 120

That's a good question. I tried reading the official mlb rules on "balks" recently, and they're (plural) almost too convoluted and general to make sense of.

Hudson's looked rather all over the place tonight. He's only actually made that one error, but he's made a number of other pretty great plays, while making them look hard at the same time.

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 9:09 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 121

Free baseball at The K tonight...

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 9:14 PM by rback Highlight this comment 122

he's pitching from the stretch.

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 9:14 PM by Jim Highlight this comment 123

If there are runners on base the pitcher has to come to a complete stop.

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 9:37 PM by Joe117 Highlight this comment 124

Wow, Delmon just dropped a few more pounds. Ran all the way to the infield grass.

Give that man some oxygen!

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 9:56 PM by rback Highlight this comment 125

Could you imagine, Rauch blows his first save, and then he gets a save anyhow, in the very same game...

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 10:09 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 126

And Mauer could get yet another shot at the cycle...

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 10:10 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 127

Rauch can't get the save anymore. He can only get the win.

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 10:22 PM by FD Highlight this comment 128

TWINS MAGIC NUMBER: 142

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 10:28 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 129

Oh boy. Why does that ending give me a slight knot in my stomach? 4.5 hour ballgame ends on that?

Ugh.

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 10:28 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 130

But I guess you have to take what you can get...

Did you see Casilla laughing as they gave each other high fives?

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 10:29 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 131

That last out was the WORST call I've seen this year.

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 10:29 PM by rback Highlight this comment 132

Was that Phil Cuzzy???

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 10:31 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 133

HAHAHAHAHA. Phil Cuzzy. Eternal Yankee fan.

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 10:41 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 134

I have to agree with you there rback. I'm scratching my head over that one.

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 10:42 PM by luke Highlight this comment 135

yeah KC did screwed on that call, but hey oh well i'll take it ha. 13-5 and another series win, now let's go for our first sweep, least both teams will be equally tired

Posted on April 24, 2010 at 10:48 PM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 136

I suppose we'll take it - but you really hate to see a call like that determine an outcome whether it goes your way or not.

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 01:09 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 137

Welp first wedding at TF, saw my friend tagged in a picture, click my name

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 07:56 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 138

Minn55441, just catching up on reading the site but no - haven't caught a ball yet. Must have been some other geeked blonde. lol

Trosy, still on the wagon?

Hopin for the sweep today!

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 11:55 AM by Jax Highlight this comment 139

Let's hope we finally get to use our brooms today! SWEEP TIME!

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 1:08 PM by Sass Highlight this comment 140

Casilla is useless should be in AA ball at best......

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 1:09 PM by bw Highlight this comment 141

Jax - Today is 3 weeks with no smokes...thanks for asking!

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 3:07 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 142

Good thing we gave Blackburn and Span contract extensions. This team can not get a clutch hit to save its you know what!

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 3:51 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 143

0 for 8 with RISP today. This needs to change! I can't remember a team that has left the bases loaded more times in such a few number of games.

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 3:52 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 144

Firedog,
there's no such thing as clutch, just suck. But you're absolutely right. Christ, Span is 3 for his last 20. THREE FOR TWENTY! For those of you following along at home, THAT'S .150! Ok, ok, to be fair, he has one walk in those 20 ABs in the last 4 games, so I guess his OBP is a whopping .200 for the last 4 days. We shouldn't be too hard on him...

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 3:56 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 145

At least we are struggling with bases loaded and RISP in the beginning of the season and we are still winning...our lineup has yet to start clicking...mainly 1 and 2 man, and bottom half...the only real production has been from the 3,4,5 hitters...

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 3:58 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 146

This is true Trosy,
something both our radio and tv guys have been saying for several days now, that we have the highest team avg in the AL, and our lineup has yet to catch fire. Should be really nice when it finally starts up!
And we really shouldn't be complaining. The Twins have won 6 of their first 6 series, something they've never done before. And as far as I know, only two other teams have ever won their first five series, NY and STL. So things are good in Twins Territory. I suppose it's only April. I should just have a beer, calm down, and watch some baseball.

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 4:02 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 147

TWINS MAGIC NUMBER: 141

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 4:56 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 148

Wtg Trosy!

I can't wait for the roadtrip to be over- I've developed an (unhealthy?) attachment to Target Field.

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 7:09 PM by Jax Highlight this comment 149

Best homerun call ever by Dick Bremer (Morneau's HR today):

http://minnesota.twins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100425&content_id=9562898&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=min

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 7:46 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 150

P.S. You're all welcome to take a look at some collages I made from pictures I took at the first TF game on April 2.

http://students.depaul.edu/~jkosowsk/images/3.%20In-Game%20Pictures/

And notice the AP photo that was in USA Today Sports Weekly's last issue.

http://students.depaul.edu/~jkosowsk/images/page%208

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 151

My collages

And notice the AP photo that was in USA Today Sports Weekly's last issue.

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 7:52 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 152

...it's about time I figured out how to do that...

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 7:53 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 153

So, how long should I expect to wait for a response from a seller on an offer on TC Traders? As of 5:45 tonight, I have been waiting 3 full days.

It was a *firm* price and so should be no problems with haggling, etc. Just seems like part of any sellers' agreement would have included an understanding that a response would arrive within a set amount of time.

There are other tix available that same day, and I am tempted to go ahead with one of them and bail on this guy, but frankly they're not quite the value that he offered.

I suppose if he's driving home from a weekend in KC or something I should cut him some slack, but get to a computer and check your ticket offers, huh?

(And, after doing a little searching on this site for section and row numbers that folks have mentioned holding, I believe I could identify the seller... but that would be pretty low, eh?)

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 8:09 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 154

For those familiar with Rob Arra's photography work, it looks like they will have two versions for Target Field....click link to see the "Inaugural Game" and "First Pitch" panoramics.

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 8:25 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 155

Rick. More. Pics. Please!!! I've developed a nervous twitch due to this current post that is devoid of a single picture!!

2nd topic: I don't know why I haven't shared this with everyone earlier but I found this nifty website a while back that gives a statistical analysis of every teams playoff odds. It also tells you what teams need to win/lose so your playoff % will increase. Click click

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 9:44 PM by MattW Highlight this comment 156

MattW, that is a really cool site!

Posted on April 25, 2010 at 10:16 PM by rback Highlight this comment 157

Ahhhhh Thanks Rick you cured my nervous twitch!!! anyways for those who missed my post last night (one of the last before the update) I'll repost.

2nd topic: I don't know why I haven't shared this with everyone earlier but I found this nifty website a while back that gives a statistical analysis of every teams playoff odds. It also tells you what teams need to win/lose so your playoff % will increase. Click click

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 08:44 AM by MattW Highlight this comment 158

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Posted on May 7, 2010 at 11:26 AM by Pharma436 Highlight this comment 159

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"You talk about the magic, the aura, but what really makes a stadium is the fans. Concrete doesn't talk back to you. Chairs don't talk back to you. It's the people who are there, day in, day out, that makes the place magic."

– Bernie Williams

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Here are 50 images chosen randomly from the 3042 found on this site. Click the image to be taken to the original post. A new list is created every 10 minutes.


Dan Kenney, my tour guide



5:45 PM, section 327, row 9, standing: sunshine.






Evidence of a food court behind the seating above the batter's eye






This is what I was working on while my photo was taken (click to see a VERY BIG version).






Impractical, expensive, undeniably cool (Angel Stadium, source LP)



An early concept drawing for the site



Click to see the full-size image.



Here's a closer look at the bullpen area. It's hard to tell for sure, but I think there is still an opening to the concourse right above.



One of those funny little sections above the entrance stairs









This is a slightly blurry view of the pavilion in center. It has a quirky shape, but one which is completely consistent with the overall ballpark design. Nice work there. You can also get a glimpse of the greenery which will rise above the fences.



Staircase view






This view, also from the same warehouse roof, shows the newly-rebuilt viaduct on North Seventh Street.









One thing that the design disguises nicely is that the Pro Shop (and other key components) are actually built over lanes of freeway. That can clearly be seen here.



This is what I was working on while my photo was taken (click to see a VERY BIG version).






Revised outfield configuration (courtesy HOK Sport)



Click to enlarge



Anna keeps the riff raff under control.






Some brick work out in the centerfield pavilion.



This was billed as a diagram of a super-suite. I'm not quite sure just where this (or these) will be located.



The shade of the canopy gives way to a brief shaft of light. It would do the same again a short while later when the sun passed through that tiny open sliver between the View and Terrace levels.






A last look on the way out.



Click to enlarge. (Photo by Tyler Wycoff)






At one point, we thought these windows might represent one of the so-called knotholes. But nope. Nothing to see here. (Nearest I can tell, there will be no view of the playing field whatsoever from the Seventh Street sidewalk.)






Signage for the concession stand which is available from the plaza (plaques are up on the fencing)






Photo by Jeff Ewer (Click to enlarge.)









The outline of an infield has appeared on the asphalt in advance of the ground-breaking on Thursday night.



That warning sign doesn't mention anything about the potential for bludgeoning or limb removal by the revolving doors...



Left to right: Opat, Oliva, Dave St. Peter, Melvin Tennant (Meet Minneapolis), Jerry Bell, Rybak



A walkway begins to form (this is as close as you can get right now)



And another angle looking at the overhang area of the right field pavilion. This looks to me like a great area to watch a game.



Look beyond the gigantic hand (a hounds tooth jacket? really?) and you'll get a glimpse of the main grandstand configuration. The two (or is it three?) levels of suites are visible, as is the design of the so-called "split upper deck," and the extensive use of limestone for decorative accents. Let's hope these little touches don't get cut as costs increase, because they make a nice tie-in from the outside of the park to the inside. Of most interest to me is the way that the very best seats are physically separated from all the rest of the seats by that limestone. There will be virtually no way to sneak into these seats. On one level, that's a somewhat sad design feature...



There's the opening through which the groundskeeping equipment will emerge (and disappear).



Concept drawing for the fan/player appreciation wall. (Click to enlarge.)





Glossary

BPM - Ballpark Magic

BRT - Bus Rapid Transit

DSP - Dave St. Peter

FSE - Full Season Equivalent

FYS - Fake Yankee Stadium (see also: NYS)

HERC - Hennepin Energy Resource Company (aka the Garbage Burner)

HPB - Home Plate Box

HRP - Home Run Porch

LC - Legends Club

LRT - Light Rail Transit

MBA - Minnesota Ballpark Authority (will own Target Field)

MOA - Mall of America

MSFC - Minnesota Sports Facilities Commission (owns the Metrodome)

NYS - New Yankee Stadium

SRO - Standing Room Only

STH - Season Ticket Holder

TCFBS - TCF Bank Stadium

TF - Target Field

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First Edition (1992)
 


Second Edition (2006)
 


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Selected Bibliography - Surveys
 


(1975)
 


Second Edition (1987)
 


Not a "Third Edition" exactly,
but it replaced the above title
(2000)
 


(2000, large coffee table)
 


Original edition (2000, round)
 


Revised edition (2006, round)
 


(2001, medium coffee table)
 


(2002, small coffee table)
 


(2003, medium coffee table)
 


(2004, very large coffee table)
 


(2006, very large coffee table)
 


Combines the previous two titles
(2007, medium coffee table)
 

Selected Bibliography - Nostalgia
 


(1992)
 


Book and six ballpark miniatures
(2004)
 

Complete Bibliography

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