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Deep Breath

October 8, 2010 11:58 PM

"What is this?"

The voice came from my right as I sat down during BP on Wednesday. I had no reason to think the comment was addressed to me. Indeed, I looked toward the voice and saw a woman essentially talking to no one in particular, which turned out to be me.

She was looking out at the ballpark and shaking her head very slowly. "It's so beautiful, seems like a dream or something."

She continued to talk, somewhat breathlessly, and managed to capture the sense of the place almost perfectly. She kept saying, "Everyone seems so...calm. It's almost eerie."

Perhaps these very bold, Hitchcockian birds picking at left-over popcorn and peanuts were portents of what was to come.

I had already noticed the calmness, and had chosen to read it as readiness. The team had seemed loose and in very good spirits during BP.

"I've never seen them do that before," said a Metropolitan Club waiter as I snapped this picture.


Guerrier had tossed a ball to a fan wearing a Twins jersey, who dropped it. If you're going to wear the uniform, he was saying, you gotta make the play. The ball ultimately went to a fan wearing a Randy Moss jersey, and everybody laughed.


Before the team came out to warm up, Kirby Puckett, Jr. was playing Frisbee out in center.


I took this picture from the Overlook at great personal risk, because everything Thome was hitting was landing out that direction.


The Pohlads were loose. A-Rod looked, um, you decide.

Judging from what I've read and heard since, much of that calmness may have been Twins fans holding their breath, hoping that we wouldn't be down 2-0 when getting on the plane for the Bronx.




Well, here we are. It's not a good spot to be in, but somebody once said that it ain't over till... Wait, that was a Yankee.

I'll just say that it's too early to declare Target Field's inaugural season over. Given the pure beauty of these exceedingly warm October days, I still imagine a game next Tuesday night, in which our boys complete a miraculous comeback.

I'm dreaming that we will fill those stands at least one more time this year, and really make some noise. (Confidential to the scoreboard guys: We can't fake enthusiasm. If it's quiet, and there's a good reason, asking over and over for us to make more noise just seems kind of, well, desperate. You may want to try distracting us, or maybe making us laugh or something.)

If the Twins' season ends out east, then I'm dreaming that there's an opportunity for us all to get into Target Field one last time and say thanks to the place and the guys who have already made this a magical season.

So, exhale, relax, and revel in whatever fun may be left in this season. There are at least nine innings to go. Tight equals dead. Loose equals hope.

And, for the moment, let's enjoy the fact that we got to see a couple of games after the plaza began to show off an amazing fall gold.

The media had some beautiful foliage to use as a background.


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haha arod looks like he needs to take a dump, so does Texiera when he bats haha, and actually Berkman too. It's funny how Yankee players just have asshole looks ha!

Call me crazy but i till have hope. Sometimes i wish i wasn't so confident and hopeful, but i am! GO TWINS

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 07:03 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 1

*still

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 07:05 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 2

You must still be young. I hope you never lose that optimism and hopefulness.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 07:46 AM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 3

When it comes to my twins I always try to stay positive. I wanna remember a twins world series, I was 1 and 5 in 87 and 91

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 08:00 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 4

Wow, Kirby Jr. looks way different than he did on opening day.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 08:50 AM by Elston Gunn Highlight this comment 5

I hope you know, Sooj, that I was just kidding with you. Nothing would make me happier than to see the Twins turn this thing around. Perhaps my fatalistic views of the Vikings and football Gophers are starting to bleed into the only team I can invest any emotion in after all these decades.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 09:06 AM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 6

Perhaps if we lose, we can still claim we won via an old Western League connection:

Disputes in League history
There is an inconsistency in the history of certain teams as shown in various sources.[specify]

Indianapolis Indians → Philadelphia Athletics, 1901 → Kansas City Athletics, 1955 → Oakland Athletics, 1968
However, some sources' information contradicts the above:

Indianapolis Indians → Baltimore Orioles, 1901 → New York Highlanders (renamed New York Yankees, 1913)[4]
Other sources have: Minneapolis → Baltimore → New York

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_League_(U.S._baseball)

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 09:17 AM by Frederick Highlight this comment 7

Time for a Minnesota re-structuring. Fire Brewster. Fire Gardy. Fire Chili. Fire whoever the hell coaches the T-Wolves (at least this week), GET RID OF THEM ALL. Gophers lose again.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 2:13 PM by luke Highlight this comment 8

Haha I know dr. X! Just expressing my hope that's all

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 2:50 PM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 9

is a fat lady warming up? or is she just readjusting and getting comfortable in her seat ready to take in a long show?

me thinks a realist knows what the "correct" answer is here.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 4:26 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 10

Here's some serious swagger.

But you should really win things first, and plan parades later.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 4:35 PM by Rick 11

At least the fat lady can fit into one of the seats at NYS. She had to buy two of them at the old place...just like on the plane [rimshot].

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 4:44 PM by luke Highlight this comment 12

Maybe the Yankees can be persuaded to wear White Sox uniforms?

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 5:06 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 13

Further proof that fiction is stranger than truth (I know, the saying is the other way around), but in my MLB10 game on my PS2, your Minnesota Twins finished the year with 103 wins...and are a breeze through the ALDS against Boston.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 6:22 PM by luke Highlight this comment 14

I'm sorry, my Twins team won 106 games in the RS, the Red Sox went down 3-1 and now it's on to the Angels in the ALCS.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 6:42 PM by luke Highlight this comment 15

Not sure what Kubel's contract is, but I wonder if it might make sense to take a run Crawford this offseason, trade Kubel and put Delmon at DH.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 7:11 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 16

If you are looking for the game, it's starting on TNT and will switch back to TBS once the Rangers/Rays game is over.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 7:31 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 17

Is that you Luke? Did you steal TTH's ID/Password? That just can't be the real Truth Hurts.

C'mon son. I hope that was facetious. There isn't a snowballs chance in hell that the Twins will be able to squeeze the Top position FA of the 2010 class into the payroll. He is expected to get 115-130M for 6-7 years. Likely from the Angels or Red Sox...

Kubel is signed for 2011 at approximately 6.5M. Value is real low right now.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 7:36 PM by Max Highlight this comment 18

TTT-
Kubel has a 5.25 million club option for next year. The payroll will likely be 100 million after arbitration & pay raises. That's before any FA signings and I don't see them going after big names.

We'll see how high they go with payroll. This really was the year to do something in the playoffs, because the team is getting really expensive now.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 7:40 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 19

I'm going to cry.... We're just rag-dolls

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 8:38 PM by MattW Highlight this comment 20

OUTCLASSED....MLB VS AAAA

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 8:45 PM by tom (aka tcmark) Highlight this comment 21

Hate to say I told you so antifire and theloniousjoe. I think I said you can take it to the bank the Twins will get swept! The Twins are a joke. Good thing they took the last 2 weeks off and got ready for the playoffs or should I say 3 weeks since they took the playoffs off too. We have become the laughingstock of baseball in the playoffs.The Yankees havent won an ALDS series against anyone except the Twins since 2002. So those that are saying The Yankees have this and that, they are beatable just not by the Twins. Rant over!

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 8:47 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 22

We need to cut Hardy and Hudson loose, and get Cuddy off the payroll ASAP. Morneau playing a full season would be nice too. Valencia and Young are the future of this team, and Mauer and Morneau are the now. Everyone else is expendable. Is it true that Cuddy is making $11M next year? That's a lot for a .268 stick, I don't care how many positions he plays.

Oh well, I hope somebody can get Konerko away from the White Sox...then that should be enough to guarantee us another AL Central title, and another ass-whipping at the hands of the Yanks.

This series is why Gardy should NOT be Manager of the Year. Look to Arlington to hand that award out. Game #1 was very winnable if he pulls Liriano a few batters earlier. If we win game #1, it gets more interesting.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 8:50 PM by twinswschamps2010 Highlight this comment 23

When does the Varsity play?

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 8:51 PM by TK Highlight this comment 24

Might be time to change the name of this post to "Gasping for Breath". :(

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 8:55 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 25

Twins are getting congratulated for hitting a single.

Yankees are getting congratulated for hitting a home run.

It's not even close.

Agree that Cuddy is not worth 11 million (if that's the number for 2011). Agree that we need Morneau healthy (although that might not be possible). Agree that Kubel has stars in his eyes in the postseason.

Agree that the damn Yankees are just another level better than our Twins.

But, we have a nicer ballpark. ;-)

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 9:03 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 26

Does any Twins fan honestly think they can come back from a 5-0 deficit in New York, down 2-0 in a best of five series?

It's just depressing the Twins were the first team to clinch a playoff berth in 2010, yet the first team to be eliminated...does that mean bad division or what???

At least the '10 AL Central Division Championship flag will look good at Target Field next year along with the '02, '03, '04, '06 and '09 flags....

The weather would have been perfect for the ALCS next week as well...

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 9:06 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 27

firedog - exactly. I hate to say "We told you so," but, "we told you so."
Something just doesn't click with this ballclub and the playoffs. After all I had heard, the similarities to the 1987 team and everything, I had a sliver of a ray of hope. I hate to say this too, cause we say it alot around here: just wait 'til next season.

Well, I guess except for when I take the light rail down to MOA to do holiday shopping, the only glimpses of Target Field I'll have until April 2011 will be within the confines of my $40 hardcover commemorative book by Steve Berg.

*sigh

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 9:11 PM by luke Highlight this comment 28

Yankee fans = Heckle Span religiously, even chanting Torii Hunter at him.

Twins fans = Maybe boo a few Yankees for the first couple innings and then go silent. Carl Pavano comes out after only giving up 4 runs on 10 hits in 6 innings and he gets a standing ovation. Do you think he would get the same treatment from Yankee fans?

No wonder we're horrible in the postseason. Our fans are just clueless.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 9:13 PM by FD Highlight this comment 29

^^^^^

This is true...Twins fans are a bunch of nerds compared to Yankees fans.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 9:21 PM by tom (aka tcmark) Highlight this comment 30

Looks like it is Mauer commercial taping season...

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 9:21 PM by TK Highlight this comment 31

Having Morneau back would have been nice, but would it have leveled the field? I have a bad feeling that we've seen the last of Morneau.

The LAST of Morneau.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 9:34 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 32

The bats are silent, in part, because the pitching is clearly not of the same caliber. Hitting gets a lot harder when you know going into it that you're going to need six, seven, eight runs to even have a chance.

The Cliff Lee non-deal looms large in the rear view mirror.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 9:38 PM by Rick 33

Confidence is everything.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 9:39 PM by Rick 34

The Twins appear to have none.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 9:40 PM by Rick 35

And lack of confidence is everything.

I'll re-state something I wrote a while back: I predicted that the Twins would go zero-for-October. It looks like I'll be off by ONE win.

I also predicted that it would cost Gardy his job. We'll see about that prediction.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 9:43 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 36

Gardy has to be done...something needs to change

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 9:46 PM by TK Highlight this comment 37

Last of Morneau? On what basis? They shut him down, knowing that the extra roster spot he would be taking for a pinch hit here and there was not a smart move to make. Then they shut him down for the playoffs, I can only assume for the same reasons. I would much rather have a healthy and up to speed Morneau next year, than risk pushing him and eating a roster spot in the playoffs.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 9:47 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 38

So that makes Kubel 2 for 29 in the playoffs. Here's hoping to seeing a new right fielder, new second baseman, and a new DH next year. I would not be sad to see Cuddy, Kubel, and Hudson go for next season.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 9:50 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 39

Josh,

The conclusion's are going to take him out just like Corey...

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 9:51 PM by TK Highlight this comment 40

I agree with you Jeff, however I have a feeling Cuddy will be back, as much as that would make me sick. Great person, great in the community, but I can do without his lack of pop.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 9:55 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 41

I have full confidence Morenau will be back and solid in 2011. He was handled with extreme (too much) caution this season, especially for a non-contact sport. But, I won't get back into that. My pessimistic takeaways from this season:

1) Paid Mauer too much, but would've been saddled with at least 20 million/year at best.
2) The extension given to Span is looking incredibly dicey at this point. (What exactly does this guy bring to the table?)
3) Hudson and Hardy are unreliable and average at best. Thome was a good free agent signing, but father time will run out soon on the aging hall of famer. DO NOT overpay next season based on some cute highlight reel homers this year.
4) Why was Cuddy's option picked up? Jack of all trades, master of nothing.
5) Kubel needs to go.
6) There is nothing tempting in the pipeline (Repko, Plouffe, Tolbert, Revere....not exactly material that is going to make Petitte shit himself.)

I better stop...I'm getting more pissed off looking at my useless World Series tickets. I was begging for the Rays in the 1st round, but even that wouldn't have mattered. The Twins that played the Tigers, Royals and Jays down the stretch were the Twins that showed up for the LDS. They are the kid that was content with the B grades in school.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:02 PM by twinswschumps2010 Highlight this comment 42

I guess it would only be fitting if we got shutout right? I love the Twins, always have and always will. Is it sad that I already can't wait for next season to start? Just want to sit at Target Field and watch my favorite team play ball again.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:03 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 43

No, no. You're right firedog. It's all over. F&%k it all.

The only thing that you and Luke are wrong about is this moronic idea that the Twins "aren't built to go deep in the postseason." I've commented on this before, but, what the hell does that mean? The postseason, as we all know, is largely a crap shoot. Good teams do well. Poor teams don't. Hot teams do the best, cold teams do the worst. There is no "build." You can't put together a team in February and predict how that team will do in the postseason. You can't even predict how that team will do in April. "Building" a team for the postseason is a myth. You can only build teams with solid players and coach them to play with solid fundamentals.

The reason the Twins keep getting swept out of the playoff so PATHETICALLY is all psychological. They are playing to their nerves, not their ability. If you disagree, you are basically saying that the Twins HAVEN'T underperformed over the course of the past three games - which is ridiculous. OF COURSE they've underperformed. Look at their regular season stats, and then look at their postseason stats. What's the team batting avg with 2 outs in the playoffs? How about in the regular season? What's the team batting avg with RISP in the playoffs? In the regular season? If the talent on this team is capable of winning the division, then they're capable of winning in the playoffs. It's that simple. They just can't remember that fact when they get there for some reason. These kids get nervous in the playoffs and forget the fundamentals in which they normally excel (and lead the league). Then, the big innings kill them. Or, if not a big inning, the Yanks always seem to pounce and take advantage of every single gaff - just like the Twins play against everyone else all year long.

So you're right firedog and Luke. And you're also jerks. Why don't you go cheer for the Yankees in the ALCS.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:03 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 44

The other conclusion we can draw is that New York has a much cooler home run celebration. It really sucks at Target Field.

Lexi's playing 2B next year boys, that's a fact. Hardy's worthless elsewhere, so he's probably back. Cuddy's here to stay, he's our MVP. Thome's back if he wants to come back. Span's stuck here until the end of time. Delmon's stuck in LF. So there's our upgrade for next year, moving Lexi to 2B and dumping the O-DAWG so he can go annoy someone else for a season.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:04 PM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 45

I'm with you Josh.

Just want to sit at Target Field and watch my favorite team play ball again.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:05 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 46

Hmm...what day were season ticket renewal payments due? This can't help the renewals for next year.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:09 PM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 47

Funny how Torre wins 4 titles, and gets fired by the Yankees, but mediocre Gardy loses the ALDS Series 5 playoff appearences in a row, and Minnesotans wash his balls and want to give him an extension! Please come back TK!!!!!

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:09 PM by FireGardy Highlight this comment 48

I'll take a Casilla-Punto interior over a Hardy-Hudson combo. Maybe Brendan Harris learned how to earn that seven figure salary this season in the minors. Better yet, get Konerko, move Morneau to 3rd, and move Valencia to 2nd and start Casilla at short.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:10 PM by twinswschumps2010 Highlight this comment 49

GRAND SLAM ONE TIME PLEASE, GOD.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:20 PM by tom Highlight this comment 50

GRAND SLAM PLEASE

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:21 PM by tom Highlight this comment 51

At the very least, the Yankees' first base coach got nailed in the nuts. We'll always have that.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:22 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 52

nice at bat, kubel

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:23 PM by tom Highlight this comment 53

Congrats Kubel...

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:24 PM by TK Highlight this comment 54

Kubel is complete garbage...throw him off the Brooklyn Bridge on your back to JFK airport.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:25 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 55

Just how close to the wall do these Twins need their backs to be before showing any signs of life...?

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:25 PM by Rick 56

omfg

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:26 PM by tom Highlight this comment 57

Wow. Hope blossoms and fades so quickly.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:26 PM by Rick 58

omfg kubel and young

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:26 PM by tom Highlight this comment 59

I'm not sure that I'm on the fire gardy bandwagon yet. When the Twins win the division next year, the better be NO locker room celebration. They celebrated like wild animals and really didn't win a damn thing. The Twins didn't accomplish anything more at that point than was expected of them and really expected of themselves. No celebrations next year until they're celebrating a pennant. If that if it's another early exit, then fire Gardy!

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:27 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 60

lol kubel and young what a cruel joke

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:30 PM by tom Highlight this comment 61

You can add players and trade players and make changes in an organization, but the root of the problem is MLB and its current "unbalanced schedule" format and the seeding format in the playoffs.

As long as the almighty dollar exists, MLB will not change anything.

If MLB wanted much more competitive balance, they would go back to a more balanced schedule and would seed the playoff teams 1-4, regardless of division/record.

The NFL has wild card matchups of divisional teams, why can't MLB teams from the same division play in the divisional-series?? NHL and NBA divisional teams even play in the first round of playoffs at times. Heck, even high school section tournaments have division/conference matchups in the first rounds.

Also, if there was a more balanced schedule, teams like the Twins would not be so "gifted" with extra wins each year playing teams like Kansas City and Cleveland, while teams such as Toronto would be able to win more games since they would not be playing so many games in the AL East.

Fact of the matter is that the almighty dollar will continue to prevail and the root of the problem is MLB and the current schedule/postseason format.

The Twins are built to win their AL Central, but nothing more.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:36 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 62

Holy Jessica, why does speaking the truth about this team classify me and firedog as "jerks"? We're just calling the shots as we see them.
What does "going deep" into the playoffs mean? Um, ask the Yankees and their 27 WS rings (or is it 28, I've lost count) what "going deep" in the playoffs means.

You would think a team that had the league's best record since the Break would do better than lose all but two games in the last two weeks of the season, PLUS the playoffs.

LOL, TTH. That and my Berg book will keep me all winter long.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:38 PM by luke Highlight this comment 63

Season ticket invoices are due Monday.

As for renewals next year, the Twins already have a waiting list. It'll be interesting to see if a loss tonight will make any significant difference with FSE for next year.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:38 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 64

I'll take that one step further, Mike. Because they don't see the same level of competition during the regular season, they have nearly no way to know how they will fare against the juggernauts.

Is the roster ever good enough? There's no way to find out, because you see those teams literally half as often (or less) than you see the other teams.

The unbalanced schedule merely allows the competition to remain unbalanced, and for the discrepancies to grow over time. It's a crime against the game.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:40 PM by Rick 65

Well, what a way to make a payment to next years season tickets :(

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:46 PM by TK Highlight this comment 66

I'm with Kevin. I don't think Gardy is the problem. I would hate to so him go. Any other manager would not have produced as many wins or titles as Gardy has over the past several years.

My wish list for next year.
Outfield - Young in left, new center fielder, and Denard in right.
Infield - Valencia at third, new short stop, Lexi at second, Morneau at first

Pitchers - True ace for the starting rotation, Liriano, Pavano, Baker, Gibson

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:48 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 67

Exactly TK...I'm wondering if a certain percentage says "screw it" and decides to skip it and buy single games online when they feel like it next year. I suspect renewals may get moved up next year...

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:48 PM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 68

181 days until we see TF again. Sad!

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:49 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 69

I forgot to add Cuddy at DH, because there is no way the Twins would not have our so called "MVP" in the lineup.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:51 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 70

Jeff,

Seeing the red eyes of Thome, I sure as hell hope to see him again next season in a Twins uni for HR #600

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:52 PM by TK Highlight this comment 71

Quick camera shot of Mauer in the dugout after the game. I wonder if he was thinking "I could have been a free agent and joined those guys instead of trying to beat them every freakin' year..."

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:53 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 72

MLB Salary Cap anyone???

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:57 PM by MattW Highlight this comment 73

I am busy toggling between bitching about the Twins on this site and renewing my tickets for next year. I am a masochist!

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 10:59 PM by twinswschumps2010 Highlight this comment 74

Not sure if I am going to have enough energy to watch the rest of this postseason. I feel us Twins fans have had so much more emotion than this.

Thanks for the memories MN Twins, let's not forget this learning experience, please.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 11:00 PM by TK Highlight this comment 75

Salary cap - No. Balanced schedule - Yes.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 11:00 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 76

No, Mauer was sitting in the dugout thinking about getting home so his mommy can make him a bowl filled with heaping scoops of delicious Kemps ice cream.

The ALCS is for the cows.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 11:01 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 77

It took the edge off in the 9th inning listening to the TBS crew talking about the Twins way, and doing it the right way. that's funny, it seems like the Yanks and Phillies do it the right way. We might have gotten our asses clocked again, but I swell with pride knowing we did it the right way. (What the hell does that mean? Not executing all season long with RISP?)

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 11:02 PM by twinswschumps2010 Highlight this comment 78

Yeah,
Gardy takes raw, unschooled, unmature talent in April year after year, wins a division, but HE'S the problem. You fire Gardy folks will truly NEVER be happy.

Luke, I'm just taking my anger out on you. Forgive me.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 11:11 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 79

I get so tired of the national media saying that the Twins "play the game the right way"....is that because the Twins hand the NY Yankees a free first round pass every year to boost the TV ratings/revenues?

Half the team is in the training room more than they are on the playing field it seems. Bring in some players that WANT to play everyday and are not afraid of the spotlight. Players that WANT to be LEADERS....Torii Hunter (or whoever it was) was correct a few years ago when he criticized the durability of some of the players on the team.

Such a disappointment...this team showed no emotion. And for those that want to blame Gardy, Gardy was the only one who showed any emotion in this series when he argued with Hunter Wendelstedt in game 2.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 11:15 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 80

If MLB went to a 1-4 playoff seeding,the chances of an all-AL East match-up in the ALDS would drastically increase. That's only a five game series, but if the teams in the same division are prevented from meeting in the ALDS and would only meet in the ALCS, that's two more potential games with much higher ratings possibilities. It's all about the TV money. They probably have things set the way they are imagining Boston and NY both making simultaneous, routine playoff aappearances.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 11:16 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 81

Firing Gardy really isn't an answer. I don't think most mangagers even get their team to the postseason with the injuries this team had this year. I'm not sure what the answer is, and I don't think Gardy is a god, I just highly doubt anyone else could do better.

Let's all remember that the Twins have made it to the postseason more times than not over the last decade. I get that they then piss all over themselves once they get to the playoffs, but I'll take losing in the playoffs to losing 90 - 100 games during the season. We all could be in Pittsburgh or Kansas City. And don't tell me that would be better becasue it isn't.

I'm disappointed that the Twins got swept. I despise the Yankees. But as a baseball fan I'll type the same thing I did back in July - if the team you cheer for is playing meaningful games in September, then I think (you might not, just my opinion) that the season is positive. I don't drink the kool - aid, I just love and respect the game and can't wait until April.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 11:19 PM by ole Highlight this comment 82

I actually agree with Kevin on this one.

Celebrating the division with champagne and all, in their minds, they had accomplished something. I say, celebrate with beers at most and purposely keep it very low key. Understanding there is a LOT bigger road ahead.

Rather than nuking a pretty decent nucleus overall, hire Tony Robbins or someone that will get into their heads, some kind of psychologist or "coach" who is hired by the Twins organization and works with them all year long. Someone who can figure out how to light a fire under them and get them to play to their potential. That's the issue here mostly.

I like Mauer and all but he seems (at least on TV) to not have a lot of "leadership", he seems very quiet, reserved, totally non-Puckett like. They need someone to really get em going. That doesn't really seem to be Joe's personality though.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 11:19 PM by OldMetFan1971 Highlight this comment 83

all's good joe. I think we're all a little edgy after what we saw tonight and the last...two weeks or so.

Yeah, I saw that camera work by TBS on Mauer. Perhaps he was thinking, "Hmm...vacation in Mazatlan or Rio???"

"The Twins Way," I had to chuckle at that. Great during the RS, an early exit in the playoffs. *sigh*

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 11:22 PM by luke Highlight this comment 84

theloniousjoe,

Gardy had the pieces together this year...I will give you that he has done what you said in the past, but this year, he needed to take them to the next level. It is his responsibility to get this team to play with heart and reach their goals. Gardy must do this next season, or else Target Field will become less a destination for families, only purchasing tickets that will be $6.00 on Stub Hub like other clubs see.

I know this is with upset emotion that I am writing this, but something needs to change.

I really wish I could drop my season package to send a message, but that will do nothing, I will be miserable, and nothing is going to change...as long as the Twins bring in the revenue, that is all that matters to the bottom line.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 11:23 PM by TK Highlight this comment 85

You know, thinking back on what I've just witnessed, the big difference between the two teams is swagger.

I mean, who the f@#k has the swagger for the Twins? They're all so freakin' humble it makes me sick.

I think that's what this team needs to advance deeper into the playoffs, somebody who says, "F@#l the other team. We're winning tonight."

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 11:26 PM by Rick 86

I was talking to a relative of mine during the game tonight. She works with someone who is friends with Morenau's wife. According to his wife it seems unlikely he will ever play again. Memory loss, dizzy spells and blury vision. Take it for what it's worth, but if his wife says it looks like he's done, I'd bet he's done.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 11:27 PM by Buffalo Lake, MN (aka Frederick) Highlight this comment 87

You nailed it OldMetFan,

they need Tony Robbins, or Don Greene, or some sports psychologist that can somehow get them to realize once they get to the playoffs that they are all VERY GOOD MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL PLAYERS.

You idiots can dump on Kubel, Young, Hardy, Hudson etc, but the truth of the matter is that they are all strong ballplayers. Given the chance, other strong teams would love to have guys like them. Do you know how much talking they do in other markets, e.g. Chicago, L.A., they Bay Area, and yes, NY, about the guys on the Twins that they would love to have on their teams?

It isn't about skill level, ability, talent, or whatever the hell you want to call it! These Twins teams have NO CONFIDENCE IN OCTOBER. IT'S A MENTAL THING.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 11:27 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 88

Rick,

You're absolutely right. "Not too high, not too low." Well that doesn't work during the playoffs. We need someone that isn't afraid to throw the water cooler around or break some bats in the dugout.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 11:30 PM by FD Highlight this comment 89

You're right Rick. Someone said it about a year ago, that no one on the Twins had any heart, no one in that dugout got fired up ever, no one got mad, pumped up, angry, determined. No one, except for Gardy that is.

I love Mauer. He's "got a good head on his shoulders." He's mature. He's calm. He's professional. He's respectful. He's...on and on and on. But I sure would love to see him fired up once in a while. If he's ever going to win the world series with the Twins, he's going to have to channel a little bit of his inner Kirby Puckett.

When's the last time you saw anyone on this team display that kind of fire, determination, leadership - the kind that Kirby displayed while on the Twins?

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 11:32 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 90

Rick, exactly. There is no leadership on this club. I don't know what the FA market looks like but the Twins need to acquire a guy with track record of winning. We've amassed some damn good talent but nobody to inspire everyone. Look at the Vikings last year. Bringing in Brett Favre was huge for them, providing leadership and direction (yes, before you jump all over me I know this year the story is a little different but just go with it) Imagine if we could make a Favre-esque acquisition this year? Leadership is huge and this team does not have it.

Also, did anyone catch the TBS guys talking about how Gardy had a whole pre-game speech written up but then after talking with all the players individually bagged it because "its not what he does" FCOL this is the playoffs and you're down 0-2 desperate times call for desperate measures.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 11:38 PM by MattW Highlight this comment 91

TheloniousJoe, you forget to mention that Puckett showed that "fire, determination, leadership" just about every dang day. The man was wired to make the guys around him better.

Everyone here is bitter tonight, myself included. Let's remember that the Twins had a great season, (and maybe try to forget that their post-season stunk.)

I'm looking forward to next year!

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 11:48 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 92

To me, this was the Season of Thome.

Maybe not for any one accomplishment (except that flagpole homerun certainly is an indelible memory), rather for the way he brought back that feeling of being in grade school and watching Killer at the Old Met. I've made sure to tell my kids and others in their generation that while memories of our World Series (all three of them) are wonderful, it's an equally incredible and lasting privilege to say you attended a game that included Jim Thome coming to the plate for the Minnesota Twins.

Mr. Thome's red rimmed eyes in the 9th inning tonight said it all. And, yes, I do hope he's back with us for another year to hit number 600.

Now, onto what has become required reading every October, it seems: I've provided a link to A. Bartlett Giamatti's "The Green Fields of the Mind." Just try reading it out loud to someone who understands the game and see if you can do it without tears. Go ahead. I find it incredibly therapeutic.

Posted on October 9, 2010 at 11:50 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 93

...therapy I might not need quite as badly if only somebody would have been willing to put a fastball in Jeter's ear after he shows bunt when his team is up 5-0...

Posted on October 10, 2010 at 12:04 AM by schweady Highlight this comment 94

Buffalo Lake, MN (aka Frederick)

I kind of have a hard time believing that is the case. Would they really trot him out to do the first game of the ALDS if he was feeling that way?

Posted on October 10, 2010 at 12:14 AM by Josh Highlight this comment 95

Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light,
And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout;
But there is no joy in Mudville - mighty Casey has struck out.

Posted on October 10, 2010 at 12:35 AM by tom Highlight this comment 96

silly = people who think that this offensive roster & pitching rotation assembled were good enough to beat a team of legit veterans like the yankees and that it is really just some mental block thing. come on! two #3's and perhaps a legit #2 against two legit #1's and a legit #2. couple that with the fact that a number of our everyday players wouldn't even be everyday players on several good mlb clubs.

even sillier = the sect of "forgive anything twins rubes" giving a worthless p.o.s. ron gardenhire (as well as bill smith/terry ryan) yet another free pass simply because the twins won yet another meaningless division title (they give out 6 of those damn things every year folks!) while looking like complete chumps in the playoffs.

FYI in case some still haven't figured it out: division titles don't mean shit and aren't worth shit. win a world series pennant. shoot just win an AL pennant for goodness sake. i will be laughing my ass off next spring when the twins front office & marketing knobs make yet another silly spectacle of flying up a worthless division pennant!

if you are really honest, then you can admit that more than anything else that the twins of the last decade are simply an anomoly of an often weak AL central and an even weaker NL during inter-league play. ron gardenhire and bill smith/terry ryan have FOOLED and are still fooling an awful lot of twin rubes with these silly division pennants they give out to 20% of the MLB teams.

a guarantee: the patheticly corporate, kiss ass, brown nosing media (include kiss ass #1 dick bremer in that group) in this town will essentially give ron gardenhire yet another free pass for his complete and total failure as a major league manager. following tonight's humiliation, ron gardenhire has now officially set at least a few different all-time MLB records for consecutive playoff losses. now that is embarassing. who cares how the regular season went yet again?! it doesn't mean jack when all is said and done.

every other pro and college coach in this town is ridden/has been ridden endlessly by an idiotic and often sophomoric local media (radio/tv/print). denny green was rightfully bounced. glen mason was rightfully bounced. tim brewster will be rightfully bounced. flip saunders was rightfully bounced. jacque lemaire was rightfully bounced. brad childress takes a lot of heat. but somehow ron gardenhire is considered untouchable by 95% of them and a good portion of the local public because he wins one of six division titles every couple years?!?! in just about any other major league city who has a press that is worth a damn, ron gardenhire and the twins front office would have been absolutely and rightfully DESTROYED by the media after his 2006 playoff debacle. perhaps they will finally give ron gardenhire his due.....something tells me i am hoping for too much.

unlike, firedog and luke, i have absolutely NO PROBLEM saying I TOLD YOU SO. remember this: division titles aren't worth shit. a good number of twins player haven't been worth shit. ron gardenhire isn't worth shit. bill smith/terry ryan aren't worth shit. can't believe our family has been wasting our time and money on this b.s. little game the twins organization plays every year.

good night!

the better team, better manager, better front office won this series. regardless of no salary cap in baseball. please stop trying to spin it any other way people! please stop being silly!

Posted on October 10, 2010 at 12:36 AM by Betaband Highlight this comment 97

betaband

Thanks for the insight! Now stop going to the games, and not sure if you were a season ticket holder, but if you were, do no renew. Let fans of this team have those seats.

How is enjoying watching a pretty good baseball team at a wonderful stadium a waste of money. Baseball is a game, it is also entertainment. If you have not been entertained this year, then I do not know what to tell you. I am as disappointed as the next person that we were swept...again. But this is not life or death. It is a game and entertainment. This team has provided a lot of entertainment and fun for this area, especially during their so called meaningless division titles.

Would I love to have the Twins win a World Series? Of course I would. But I am not going to let this loss, the previous losses, or any future losses, ruin a game I love, a team I love, and a ballpark I love.

Did I invest time and money in this team? Yes I did, and I do not regret any of it, not one bit. I don't drink the kool-aid, but I do love me some peanuts and cracker jacks!

I will be renewing my season tickets for next year along with a friend I met on here, and cannot wait to have another fun summer at the park. Oh and I cannot wait to see that division banner raised too, at least we have something to raise. It beats some of the lean years we had here not to long ago. There is always next year (I know people hate that but it is the truth)

Posted on October 10, 2010 at 01:14 AM by Josh Highlight this comment 98

josh - yes, i am/was a full season ticket holder. for several years. no more. my much deserved criticism of this franchise is spot on. sorry if you can't handle the truth of it all.

p.s. and you say that you don't drink the twins kool-aid? please. you are drinking the twins carefully concocted kool-aid.....you are drinking a big ole' pitcher of it.

Posted on October 10, 2010 at 01:35 AM by Betaband Highlight this comment 99

Beta, maybe you could become a season ticket holder in Kansas City or Pittsburgh or Baltimore. I'm sure they could use your support.

Posted on October 10, 2010 at 09:04 AM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 100

Josh,

Time will tell. I hope it's not the case it would be a shame. I hope he recovers fully and can complete his career on his terms and stay healthy. But that is apparantly what his wife thinks. I hope she is wrong.

Posted on October 10, 2010 at 10:00 AM by Frederick Highlight this comment 101

wtf?

Posted on October 31, 2010 at 5:43 PM by bulldog Highlight this comment 102

wtf?

Posted on October 31, 2010 at 5:56 PM by bulldog Highlight this comment 103

wtf/

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 6:32 PM by BULLDOG Highlight this comment 104

i meant wtf?

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 6:33 PM by BULLDOG Highlight this comment 105

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