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First Homestand Redux

April 26, 2010 1:17 AM

The past two weeks have been pretty overwhelming.

There has been so much to see and do and read and watch and experience and follow and document and consider and review and note and dismiss and absorb and digest and taste and learn and test and discover and... I'm living in perpetual overload right now.

In truth, the media has been so thick with Target Field stories that it's felt a little like anything I might have to say (which isn't much beyond "wow" with a side of "hmm") would be basically redundant. I've tried to keep up with my various feeds and searches and I've still got no less than 184 articles yet to sift through.

After "seeing" three of the nine games, and hanging out on the plaza for the night game, I've got 805 photos and video clips to sort through, and about a million little notes either stuck in my head or scribbled on my various (regrettably incomplete) scorecards. (I'm 1-2 so far, envious of those of you at 6-3. How about a little fantasy league for games attended? We can find out just who is the best good luck charm for the team. Anybody at 6-0?)

I set up my late inning "office" at the drink rail behind section 206

In the middle of this happy maelstrom, I had a wonderful opportunity drop -- almost literally -- into my lap. I simply could not say no to the opportunity to see a game, the second game at TF, no less, from the Champions Club. I am only now beginning to digest everything I experienced, and the strange other world I sampled for an afternoon.

World Series trophies on display at left




Delmon Young getting warmed up

By the way, I stayed in my seat while it rained until several elements converged: a soaked scorecard, a full bladder, and the ready accessibility of some amazing free food. Some people were gone at the first drop. The woman in front of me had the right idea (staying in her seat) but the wrong execution (opening a gigantic umbrella which blocked everybody's view).

Once back in the dry club, a familiar face was sitting nearby.

Harmon Killebrew

When the rain let up a bit, a staffer ran out and dried off my seat for me.

I certainly wouldn't want to see every game this way (estimated weight gain: 81 pounds per season), but it was quite a treat (fresh fruit, smoked salmon, chocolate covered waffles, sliders, endless hot dog bar, free beer and soda, ice cream, candy, peanuts, pastries, salads). I also learned a lot from my host on what we might expect from the secondary ticket market this season. In short, there will be deals to be had, but you're going to have to know where to look.

This would be easy to miss, but I found it on a cart located directly behind the Batter's Eye seating on the upper concourse in center field.

Contrast the Champions Club experience with a $13 seat purchased at Ticket King:

That's the last row of section 324, right at the top of the aisle. The distance to home plate is a little daunting, and the shade, which will be a blessing more days than not, was a disadvantage on this particular day (with a steady wind at my back). Later I snuck down into the sun, and made friends with a railing:

The best part is that within half an inning, I was getting hot in the sun!

I also bumped into a hot dog vendor and tasted yet another variety of TF dog. He called it a "Big Dog" but it was most definitely not. (I think it's actually called the "Dugout Dog".) It was a natural casing wiener with a much better flavor and texture than either the Big Dog or the Dinger Dog. Best TF dog yet.

Later I met up with a friend in 318, who was sitting in her STH seats for the first time. It wasn't pretty:

Those railings, along with the constant flow of people in and out of the section, perfectly block home plate. She was trying to conceal her disappointment, but it didn't work. I think there are some critical things to be said on this subject, but we'll have time to get to those after the honeymoon buzz has worn off a bit.

Right now it seems like, for every bad seat in the bowl, there are a dozen better standing positions.

I have a couple of items on my "punch list" for the ballpark. One of them is to add drink rails to every single possible spot. This turns out to be one of the greatest unexpected amenities in the place (see the picture of my "office" above). And it's to the point where I've found myself walking up to a spot where I would expect to find one, only there's none there (mainly at the back of the main concourse).

Another item is to check the sound. There are reports of spots where it's far too loud, and there are some surprising places (such as the concourse right above the bullpens) where you can't hear anything. Also, the mix of radio, TV, and PA announcer is positively schizophrenic. I'm holding out hope that they're still tweaking.

(Just Like) Starting Over

Along the way, this old John Lennon song kept popping into my head. (Be sure to insert mental images of outdoor baseball in place of Japanese performance artists.)

It's been too long since we took the time
No one's to blame, I know time flies so quickly
But when I see you darling
It's like we both are falling in love again
It'll be just like starting over.

Every few minutes I think of another direction I want to go on this site: reviews of each seating section, food item, parking option, restaurant, bar, ticket purchase option. I want to be able to host your photo collections, hear your stories, gather information on the secondary ticket market. I want to be able to help everybody make connections with one another.

We'll do it all. Eventually.

Right now, I know we're tired, but it's a good kinda tired, right?

Rest now, because another homestand is right around the corner. I'll see plenty of you there!

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Nice Post as always Rick. I'm 2-0 in regular season games attended so far. Have yet to sit in my 317 seats during the regular season yet. I would say up on the view level, if your on an aisle close to home, you want to be Row 5 or lower. Otherwise the bars/vendors WILL get in your way. It was kind of frustrating down the line opening day, but shouldn't be a problem when I go back on the 6th.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 01:48 AM by Camden Highlight this comment 1

I know some poeple who have season tickets I think its the very top deck behind home plate. The seats are at the top of the stairs and they hate them. With all the people and food vendors going up and down the stairs they missed half of the game with blocked views. They said if worse comes to worse they will just find a standing room place to stand and watch the game. Makes one wonder why someone would put seats at the top of the steps like that

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 05:43 AM by Leroy Highlight this comment 2

Great pics Rick. And another great update as always.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 06:50 AM by luke Highlight this comment 3

I made 3 games and the Twins were 2-1 in my homestand. I think it was my fault. I bought ice cream from a guy in the stands just before Pavano started to collapse, like I literally didn't have a bite of ice cream before things started falling apart. I think it was because that delectable Blue Bunny treat was 450 calories and God was angry. We'll test that theory again. I still haven't made a night game. Everyone who has made one says it is a very special way to see the ballpark. My first night game is a week from tonight. A potentially big game with Detroit. Should be fun!

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 06:57 AM by jpberka Highlight this comment 4

I agree that those seats at the top of the steps seem a bit on the side of absurd. My wife and I intentionally took our seats in the very center of our section and I couldn't be happier about that. After sitting in various places in the first 5 games (including Gophers & exhibition experiences), I can say with certainty that my favorite tickets are my own. Smack dab in the middle of row 4 in section 318. I love it.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 07:00 AM by jpberka Highlight this comment 5

I agree that those seats at the top of the steps seem a bit on the side of absurd. My wife and I intentionally took our seats in the very center of our section and I couldn't be happier about that. After sitting in various places in the first 5 games (including Gophers & exhibition experiences), I can say with certainty that my favorite tickets are my own. Smack dab in the middle of row 4 in section 318. I love it. I might one day try to get almost exactly similar tickets in somewhere like 218, but that is simply a lower vantage of the same seat, so that would be my only change in the next couple years.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 07:00 AM by jpberka Highlight this comment 6

Very nice post, Rick. I was 3-2 on the homestand. I would be interested in anyone that got experience with those 4 seat rows immediately above the entrances on the view level. I think they are always rows 6&7 or 7&8. Those looked like interesting seats, but I was nervous about all of the people traffic as well, so I didn't pick them. The picture you have must be from section 318, not 218. I think all ballparks must have seats where this happens. I did finally notice last Tuesday in the late inning they finally had staffers holding people back from getting to their seats until the batter was finished. I didn't notice much of that early in the homestand.

I'm very jealous you got to experience the Champions Club. I think it is so cool they have the world series trophies down there.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 07:05 AM by Linc Highlight this comment 7

I am 1-1 and sat in section 234 near the Minny and Paul sign. I was well aware of the obstructoins of going in and missed a couple outfield plays. I could have lived with this, but because of a poor angle towards both the main and out of town scoreboard I never got to see these plays. I would definately not be opposed to putting a smaller scoreboard above the metro club in the future. The concourses however are some of the largest in the ballpark and I had just a short walk to the captains deck and the never crowded Town ball tavern which has quickly become my favorite pre-game and 7th inning spot in the ballpark. (The walleye fingures are outstanding!). I did have the misfortune of witnessing the no Mauer, Butera, Cassila line-up. All in all the whole experience was incredible and felt like a ten year old kid who was aloud to drink beer.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 07:49 AM by Kingduck Highlight this comment 8

Does anybody know about TF tours? It would be cool to see some of the areas that are normally off limits. I like to keep my attention on the game, so an off-day tour would be a great way to enjoy just the building. Also, are the venues like Hrbeks open to the public when no game is being played?

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 07:51 AM by Tommy Highlight this comment 9

Counting one game I "watched" from the plaza, I'm now 4-1. One of those games was in the top rows of 319, and only once did vendors pose an issue (the popcorn guy who stood in an empty seat below us, blocking the plate). A visual scan of the ballpark made it obvious that the upper deck has far fewer vendors than the lower deck does. And no hot dog vendors ever passed our way up there.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 07:57 AM by fiesta Highlight this comment 10

I have been lucky. I am a perfect 4-0 during the regular season.
Here are the places I have watched games.

My seats are in 117 less than 1/2 up. I really like them.

For the Gophers game I watched from the view level in left field. They were ok. If the outfielder took a step back you could not see the play. I did like how close I felt to the infield.

I sat in the left field bleachers for the 2nd cards game. 2nd row by bullpen. I really enjoyed these seats. $18 season ticket price is cheap and I could see this price going up in the future. I felt closer to the game than the same seats at the Dome. It did not bother me that I could not see main board.

I sat down the leftfield line in Sec 122 row 13 for OD and did not like them because of the head turning and people walking up and down the isle. Hopfully people have learned isle curtacy since OD.

For the Friday Royals game I watched a couple of innings from the drink rail next to the FSN camera under the mini/paul sign. nice place to watch the game. I can see buying a cheap ticket and never leaving that spot.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 08:52 AM by Joe117 Highlight this comment 11

Oops, I fixed that: My friend's seats were in 318 (not 218), on the aisle, right where the aisle cuts over to head around the funny 4-seat section and head upward again.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 08:59 AM by Rick 12

(Or are those 8-seat mini-sections...?)

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 09:02 AM by Rick 13

Counting the Exhibtion games and the 3 games I just went to in KC, I'm 5-3 on the year. Going to 5 games during the next homestand so I'll see how it goes!

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 09:05 AM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 14

I sat in section S row 5 seat 1 on the club level in the Skyline Deck for the day game against the Indians. I had to look right through the railing that is preventing fans from falling onto the lower level. It seems like their are a lot of railings and bars all over the place. I wonder how long it will be, if at all that the Twins will put up one of those sun-blocking shade mats beneath the canopy like the Mariners put up. We only have 7 3:10 day games all season, so I suppose maybe its not even worth it. I love our new park and I really like all the great info Rick works so hard to get to us.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 09:06 AM by Tom D. Highlight this comment 15

I'm 4-1 overall, and 3-0 during the regular season.

So far I've been all over the park, and loving it. Section 327 row 5, section 15 row 2 (amazing!), section T wc, section 141 row 10, section 135 wc. The seats in 141 were somewhat obstructed towards right and centerfield, but we still had a great time.

Next game I have tickets to is May 11th against those hated White Sox.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 09:24 AM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 16

including the 2nd cards game i am 1-1, otherwise regular season 0-1, next game may 4th with everyone

Also i can't remember who said they were going to Philly for twins games, but i got my tickets for Friday's (June 18th) game: Sec 307 seats 6-9, its on the first base side, in RF

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 10:44 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 17

It will be interesting to see in the next homestand how the Twins have corrected the low railing (without drink rail) next to the batter's eye section. In the opening series they had the edge cordoned off and a staffer there to keep people from the edge.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 10:47 AM by fiesta Highlight this comment 18

Ahhhhh Thanks Rick you cured my nervous twitch!!! anyways for those who missed my post last night (one of the last before the update) I'll repost.

2nd topic: I don't know why I haven't shared this with everyone earlier but I found this nifty website a while back that gives a statistical analysis of every teams playoff odds. It also tells you what teams need to win/lose so your playoff % will increase. Click click

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 10:49 AM by MattW Highlight this comment 19

and i forget to include the link

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 10:50 AM by MattW Highlight this comment 20

It was me Sooj. Still working on finding an attractive airfare to Philly in June as I'd like to fly to NYC for the Mets games the following weekend as well, sandwiched around a quick trip to Omaha for the last year of the CWS at Rosenblatt Stadium.

Great post Rick.

RE: Railings/Obstructions

I think it will be very interesting to see who renews their current season tickets next year versus moving to another location (or not renewing at all) because they were unhappy with various obstructions/views from their current seats.

I am on board with Rick. I sure hope the Twins install drink rails in every possible location for 2011. This is a great feature that can be found at the X in St. Paul. Really nice to get a different vantage point at times while also having a place to put your beverage/food. If you have a horrible seat or buy a "get in the door" ticket outside on 1st Ave, there are a bunch of great spots to stand for the game.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 10:53 AM by Max Highlight this comment 21

Wonderful update, Rick. Love the drink-rail idea!!

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 10:58 AM by OG Jeff Highlight this comment 22

I'm 4-3 regular season. Sat in the rain in S, front row of Overlook for two games, front row of Batter's Eye for one, and the rest in my ST in middle of 306.  I did not actually sit in my ST seats at all for two games. Instead I hung out at the Twins Pub, Metropolitan Club drink rail, and drink rails along the Outlook, Batter's Eye, and the first and third base lines behind Field Terrace.  I love my $10 drink rail tickets!

I have had little to no wait to use restrooms or order food (it is quicker to find a short line than stand in the first line one sees).  I mostly bring in my own food and plastic cup, but have enjoyed a few items. The smoked turkey legs and Tony O's Cuban sandwich are great tasting and fun to share.  Kramarczuk's sausages are all great, but get there before the 5th if you want grilled onions and green peppers.  The natural casing Dugout dog (striped shirt vendors only) are best with two squirts of mustard.  The two ground beef tacos for $5 have good salsa.  To stay under budget I plan to try wild rice soup in May, Vincent burger in June, Michelbob ribs in July, Murray's steak sandwich in August, Hoyt's pork chop in September and Metropolitan Club buffet in October. It is nice to have reasons to live!

I feel like TF is my new second home and I've been kicked out for a long week.   

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 11:00 AM by Buzz Highlight this comment 23

Has anyone sat in the 1st row in the legends club? I want to know if there are any problems with the railings there.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 11:07 AM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 24

Good luck max! I'm flying round trip for $62!

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 11:08 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 25

I'm 2-1 at TF during the regular season (4-3 overall-one exhibition game and the KC away series).

Got back from KC about 12 hours ago. I'm more awake than I thought I'd be.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 11:10 AM by AJ Highlight this comment 26

sooj - where did you find that great deal on airfare? I am contemplating taking a trip to Citi Field or Citizens Bank Park as well.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 11:14 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 27

my friend works at the airport in Milwaukee and gets a deal on flight. She has some special program where she can get friends cheap flights, you don;t need to buy it till a few days before though her program and you get on standby flights. She replied my a status i had about looking for flights, it's awesome! Plus i got a free place to stay in Philly

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 11:20 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 28

Trosy: I share 1st row Legends Club season tickets. The railing can be an issue if you are short (I'd say less than 6'0") or don't sit up straight in your seat.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 11:43 AM by Max Highlight this comment 29

Max - What section are you in?

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 11:47 AM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 30

I sat in the front row of one of those little four seat sections for the Wednesday night Cleveland game. I had zero problem with them. They may seem a little silly, but the sight lines are totally fine and people walking up and down the aisle were a non-issue (possibly due to the fact that we were in Section 315, right behind home). Loved that game! Loved the seats! I'm not saying I would make them my first choice, but where we sat didn't detract from the experience one bit!

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 11:51 AM by Margaret Thatcher Highlight this comment 31

I can't remember who had the problem, but here is a Strib article on TF accessibility which mentions "removable armrests on some ballpark seats to accommodate larger fans".

If you're stuck next to someone who is too large for their seat, that can be a real drag on enjoying the game, and you should bring this to the attention of your ticket rep (who can probably figure out who it is that needs to be relocated to a larger seat).

I think that's a reasonable expectation.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 11:56 AM by Rick 32

Did anyone else experience improved data accessibility in the Cleveland series? For the first time I had no problems at all, though it was also the first time I tried sending and receiving from the upper deck.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 11:58 AM by Rick 33

Trosy: We are a huge ST group with 15 1st row seats in the Club Level. 8 in Section N, 4 in G, and 3 in J. The legroom is real nice and because of how the ribbon board is attached to the facade there is extra room in front of you to put food, women's purses, bags etc without having the people behind you putting their garbage or spilled beer on your stuff below your seat...

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 12:03 PM by Max Highlight this comment 34

Max - the reason I ask is I am looking for 4 tickets to the September 17th game or the 18th vs. Oakland. I am kinda picky where I am searching for seats. I am looking for rows 1-3 in sections M, N, or P. Is anyone in your group up for selling these tickets?

We are bringing my parents to their first TF game as a thank you for hosting our wedding weekend up north this summer. My dad doesn't have the best knees and hips and wanted to get them good seats with not a lot of steps to tackle.

Please let me know if you can help me out. It would be appreciated. I have linked my email.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 12:19 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 35

For those who wanted changes made on the Puckett statue...you are in luck. Click my name for the entire article.

By C.J., Star Tribune
"Twins Cities sculptor Bill Mack plans on tweaking the beard and teeth on the Kirby Puckett bronze statue outside the new Twins ballpark."

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 12:33 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 36

Rick it was me that had that problem at a game. They weren't my season ticket seats, which are more than fine. They were my friends company seats, so I didn't want to make a fuss. It completely ruined the game for me though.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 12:47 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 37

I've gone 0-2 at the new park. Unfortunately, I love day games, and the Twins seem to not like them as much.

Our season tickets are in the first row of 218. The railing really diminishes the value of those seats. Unfortunately, we pay a $5 premium per game when, in fact, we should probably get a $5 discount. It doesn't really matter how tall you are, the bars are a problem. If it wasn't for the bars, these would be among the best seats in the stadium. One of the guys in our group sent an email to the Twins and they responded with a response of something like "we'd like to fix it, but we have no idea how. Maybe we can move your seats next year?" Note to ticket buyers--stay away from row 1 in second level behind home plate.

Even with an 0-2 record and a railing problem, I love the new park and can't wait for my next game.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 1:03 PM by ew Highlight this comment 38

Also updated is the Mini TF for giveaway 8/14. It sounded like a lot of people on here where bummed with the gold one thw Twins showed on the website. The one they show now looks a lot better.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 1:06 PM by Joe117 Highlight this comment 39

ew-
I sat in 215 for the home opener. I can't remember which seats off the top of my head though. 215 is where the cameras are. My seat and my buddy's were fine (he was to the left of me), but the one to my right (more towards first base), was completely blocked by the camera. The guy sitting there couldn't see home plate at all. It was the first row right behind the cameras. I can't remember which row it was though..like 3 or 4 officially, I think. My friend's seat could have been blocked if the middle camera angled toward the right side of the field, but they never turned it that way.

Joe117-
Thanks for the heads up. The other one looked god awful. Now I'm happier that I bought those extra tickets.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 1:14 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 40

I had wondered if the original pic was just a prototype. It would make sense that the piece is the same, or very similar, to the one given away earlier to Champs Club types, etc.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 2:07 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 41

I saw on the Strib website that there may be a proposal for the Vikings stadium funding as early as next week. Anybody know anything about the progress made? I haven't paid as much attention to it as I did with the Twins stadium, but there seems to be a lot of buzz about making it happen. What are the odds that the stadium gets approved this year?

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 2:54 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 42

I'm 2 wins, 0 losses, 4/12 vs. Boston and 4/17 vs. KC

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 2:55 PM by Michael Highlight this comment 43

Hey, that new mini-TF on August 14 now looks like something worth the effort. I'm ready to make a deal with anyone who thinks they might be able to get a spare (I'm likely out of town that week).

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 4:05 PM by Rick 44

Can we talk TCTraders etiquette?

I had a ticket deal rejected... and didn't receive the rejection email until nearly 4 days after the deal was initiated. Seemed odd, especially because it was a *firm* price that I accepted and offered... no dickering involved. Rick, thanks for doing what you needed to do to coax that response, even though it came so late and left me curious as to why the tickets weren't available anymore as advertised.

A couple of hours ago I made an offer on a different set of tickets, and the anxiousness caused by the previous flop got me to wondering:

Sellers... How often do you check up on your ticket pool and waiting offers? How long after receiving an offer do you wait to respond? And do you offer your tickets on other sites simultaneously? Is is possible that you'll hold off for a while on your TCT potential buyer, hoping to make more elsewhere?

Buyers... How quickly do you feel you deserve to hear of acceptance or rejection of your offer? And do you keep looking or making offers elsewhere with the thought that if you find something better you could just ignore the TCT seller?

I don't wish to sabotage the TCT system... it's great to have it as an option. (Thanks, Rick) I just think it has some weaknesses that require a high level of honor and attention from those of us who would like it to work correctly. I'm going to keep giving it a try, but maybe I've just gotten so accustomed to the immediate feedback that usually follows an online purchase that TCT isn't the best method for me.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 4:06 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 45

As far as the Vikes stadium, I heard Reusse talking about it on KSTP-ESPN 1500 this afternoon.
He was very positive that we'd get a Vikes stadium deal this year. He suggested Lowertown and Crookdale as sites for a new place.
Mostly though, he was 'debating' about a fixed vs. a retractable roof, and stated that the Vikes probably would have no purpose for a retractable roof, so save a few million and just build a fixed roof. He suggested a carbon copy of Ford Field in D-troilet.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 4:14 PM by luke Highlight this comment 46

Maybe we should have a "swag traders" option as well. It is likely that I will have extras of the mini TF but will probably be looking for a lure.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 4:18 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 47

Now that I have a few tix for sale on TCT and elsewhere I am checking my e-mail 3x/day.

I think within two days is fair etiquette as long as there is 5+ days or so until the game. Closer than that and it needs to be nearly same-day turnaround.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 4:19 PM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 48

luke stole some of my thunder, but from some knowledgeable people I know -- don't be suprised if the Vikings stadium deal is passed by the end of this legislative session.

"Major progress" has been made behind the scenes and the Vikings are about to present a pretty good financing package in the next week or two that will be driven primarily by those who "benefit" from the stadium. Look for a small hospitatility tax in the metro area as well as a tax on sports apparel/memorabilia.

There has been some strong leadership from some big businesses in the Twin Cities and they, along with the Vikings, feel will have enough support by this financing package that the deal will in fact pass this session.

If that happens, they will begin construction as early as September at the Metrodome site, in particular, on the east side of the Metrodome in that parking lot area and towards 11th avenue.

Also, don't be surprised if the Vikings do in fact, end up with a fixed roof such as what they have at Detroit, which would cut at least $150 million off of the price tag.

All I can say is stay tuned from what I have heard as there are expected to be some major things happening in the next couple of weeks relating to the Vikings stadium.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 4:25 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 49

Rick, I might have an extra mini Target Field assuming the Twins will send some out to the STH's who signed up for the "guaranteed giveaway" in January.

If not, I still plan on going to the July 4 and August 14 games to get the Minnie & Paul bobblehead and mini Target Field.

I hope the Twins send out the bobblehead and mini Target Field to those who paid the $50 for the "guaranteed giveaway". Those two promotions alone will make the $50 worth it in my mind!

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 4:28 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 50

Ha Schweady I had something identical happen when I tried to buy tickets for Opening Day on TC Traders. I voiced my displeasure to Rick and explained what had happened. I didn't hear back on why the seller yanked me around and left me in limbo for several days wondering "gee I wonder if we have a deal or not". Time is often of the essence. The price was firm, I agreed to the price, and finally got an email later on that said they were no longer for sale. I felt like I was being yanked around. I wasn't interested in playing games. We either have a deal or we don't. But if you are out there "fishing" for offers that tends to piss people off.

IMO, there needs to be strictly enforced timeframes for transactions to happen and/or be facilitated (12-16 hours). In this day and age where we are constantly tethered to a computer or the internet by our cell phones to wait longer than 24 hours is ridiculous. I mean I love the concept and feel this could be a great service for those using TC Traders, however, if it becomes too much of a hassle I'll use Craigslist or Ebay when I want to buy or sell extra tickets.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 4:32 PM by Max Highlight this comment 51

Breaking ground sometime near September? That would be crazy. I really hope it happens. Obviously everyone on here has a love for sports venues. The deal is going to get done sooner or later, so why not sooner?

I think the Metrodome site is the best one. Hopefully if they do get one financed they build it there. Maybe this time there will actually be development around it.

Rick, I know you have brought it up in the past, but are you thinking about doing a similar site for the Vikings stadium if it ever comes to happen? Or is football not really your passion?

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 4:36 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 52

Can we talk TCTraders etiquette?
Don't get me started...If you are a responsible online seller once a day ticket check shouldn't be too much to ask for.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 4:47 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 53

It is obvious that some are using TC Traders for "trolling" - does that really surprise anyone? How many TC Traders "members" were pretty much new guys to the site? Perhaps there should be a penalty for those who renege on firm offers without a legit excuse - banishment with forfeiture of fees comes to mind.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 4:59 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 54

As far as the Vikes stadium, I hope there's some re-design involved and that we don't end up building (click my name) whatever-the-hell this thing is.
Looks like a 67,000 seat circus tent.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 5:16 PM by luke Highlight this comment 55

on the subject of drink rails......

i for one hope they do not install anymore drink rails around the concourses. personally, i think there are too many already and installing more will only exacerbate a legitimate problem i feel exists.

the problem being is that it seems to be attracting primarily people who purposely buy the cheapest ticket possible (often a third deck or outfield seat) and then make sure they get there early and "claim" their spot at a drink rail in a location that is significantly better in terms of view, distance from the field, etc. than the seat that they actually paid for. not only does this seem "out of line" to many of those who actually pay handsomely for season tickets and a prime location in the ballpark, but it throws out of whack the whole purpose of have numbered seating and structured pricing. i also believe that it is all of these people jockeying for drink rail positions (rather than sitting in their actual seat) which is causing much of the congestion on the main concourse level.

i am against it which i am sure will be an unpopular stance with many of the rubes here who are already using this strategy.

to the twins brass who read this site: no more drink rails in the concourses!

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 5:32 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 56

That's some warped thinking. Those who "pay handsomely" are just as free as anybody else to use those drink rails as well. Sounds a little too much like a caste system if you ask me. Keep the poorer people in their place. Heaven forbid if they get a better view than my tickets by standing at a drink rail.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 5:46 PM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 57

Anyone know where i can get a Kirby Puckett throwback jersey? the light blue ones. I have found some cheap knock offs on ebay, but would really like the real thing.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 5:51 PM by Vikeologist Highlight this comment 58

huh? how is that warped thinking? it is called getting what you actually paid for!

but buffalo goes ahead and takes it down to the lame level of being a caste system. because it is much more dramatic if you describe it that way isn't it?! yep, buffalo i am asking that it be just like india. i even forgot to use the term "rat catcher". get a clue!

and no it is not about keeping the poorer people (your words, not mine) in their place. something tells me there are just as many well-off cheap skates pulling the same crap with the drink rails & even the non-drink rail concourse space. essentially buying a $10 ticket on the street or online and then not sitting in it the whole game rather standing in a main concourse drink rail spot (that is really supposed to be a temporary spot for people to use) that theoretically has a much higher value in terms of where one is able to watch the game from. all the while congesting the main concourse level that much more (for those of us who actually PAID for tickets/space in 100 level seating) when they should be occupying the 2nd or 3rd level seating & concourse space where they are ACTUALLY ticketed to be.

and some of you wonder AND complain about why it is so busy on the 100 main level all game long yet extremely easy to move around on the 200 & 300 levels......it is because there are more people down on the 100 level concourse ALL GAME LONG occupying what is supposed to be a temporary spot on the perimeter of the concourse than there are people who actually paid for a ticket on the 100 level.

finally buffalo, why do you think there are prices and seat numbers on the tickets we all buy?! what you are basically suggesting is that people's tickets should really just be considered "general admission" in nature and that everyone should just get to stand/occupy space in whatever part of the ballpark/concourses they feel like. even if it further jams up the main concourse and bascially gives people a view of the game that they didn't really pay for. well, i think that mindset is b.s. even if it is an unpopular "viewpoint" amongst some here who want to continue the practice.

so i will say it again......NO MORE DRINK RAILS

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 7:02 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 59

Beta,

I'm kinda with you but have a different solution. It would be nice if people would just come and go but like you said people just stand there the whole game. The Twins should sell standing room tickets and number the drink rails. That way people don't treat it as a cheap way to get a nice view of the game. IMO these are the same people who don't buy season tickets and then complain that they cant get tickets to OD or the other big weekend series. If you say something they just call you an elitist.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 7:03 PM by Joe117 Highlight this comment 60

I've spoken with several sellers about the issue of listing tickets in other places (i.e. Craig's List, eBay, and Stubhub) while also having them on TCT. It seems to be a common practice to list everywhere you can and take the first offer that comes through, then cancel the others.

I've been watching the activity pretty closely, and have seen absolutely no evidence of anyone "trolling" or holding out for better prices. But, from direct reports, I do know of several occasions where offers were received from two places essentially simultaneously. That's really what's going on.

Of course, with Stubhub, there's nothing a seller can do once a sale has been made there. It's final and automatic. That makes it the service to beat in terms of timing.

Right now, I'm working on a way to make this all more transparent and simpler. It will be part of the package of relatively minor "reforms" which will be instituted on or about May 1.

By the way, I'm not planning any straight pricing increases at this time, and will be instituting at least one price reduction.

One thing to make clear, I believe that every single TC Traders member has a comment ID that you would recognize and has been active on the site. Part of my package of changes is intended to make this more obvious.

I do appreciate the discussion.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 7:14 PM by Rick 61

joe117 - i like some of your ideas that you laid out there.

i also agree with you about "who" these people generally are.......not always, but generally. i would guess a decent number of them also feel somehow entitled to some of the same extras, drinking priviledges, etc. of those who are willing to pay for such priviledges and seating and if you don't agree with their "oh so cleverly cheap" approach to getting it......well then you are just some elitist snob.

ah no, i am just a regular middle-class guy who doesn't have any problem with people getting extra priviledges (whether it be access to alcohol, nearby parking, gate access, etc.) if they are willing to pay more for them. it is called capitalism and thankfully we live in a capitalistic society.

i look at it no differently than people who are willing to pay much more for a 1st class plane ticket which gives them more access to alcohol, food, etc. yet you don't hear people bitch and moan about the practice of 1st class plane tickets/seating.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 7:30 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 62

Rick,Thanks for the help with TCTraders the past 10 days...Even though I'm doing better selling through Craigslist. TCT gives me another option to sell and when the Summer gets into high gear maybe buy a few in different sections for a decent price.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 7:33 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 63

I can definitely see Betaband's point. Personally, I have not left my seat (section 323) a single time after the game starts for the two games I have been there. I absolutely believe the drink rails are intended to be a temporary thing: a place to set your beer down while you finish your hot dog, not a place to camp out for any extended period of time as it sounds like people are doing. The open concourses are for staying in touch with the game as you go from point A to point B. To have people ticketed for higher levels effectively clogging up traffic for others should be discouraged. How to go about that is the problem.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 7:35 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 64

The Mets spend $900 million on a new ballpark with no roof?  Tonights game is rained out and it is 52 degrees out!  What were they thinking?  Please let the national media know what you think about it  even though it makes no difference to you. 

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 7:35 PM by Buzz Highlight this comment 65

I dont dick around either, i am gonna post 2 seats on tct right now for the sat may 8th game row 11, sec 131 last 2 seats and you can toss shells into the bullpen,

I just want to trade them for the next day sunday, mothers day .. gonna take my girl..let me know if anyone wants to do a straight trade

click.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 8:28 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 66

vikes,

i got my puckett trow back on mitchell & ness website about 6 years ago for 260.00 go there its the real deal... but spendy still in awsome shape, no name on the back... if tere is its a rip off

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 8:36 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 67

Betaband,

I totally understand where you're coming from. But here are a couple of observations to consider.

First, I've not encountered anyone "camped out" at a drink rail for the entire game. I'm sure they're out there, but whenever I've wanted to find a spot, I've been able to. This includes those very busy rails over in the admin building corner. People around me when I step up are usually gone by the time I step away.

On two separate occasions I've stepped up to the rail just up from the left field foul pole. Within a few minutes, as people moved on, I've been able to slide forward until I was right at the corner. Then, after a few minutes, I've moved on and the people behind me presumably have filled right in. (If you've never stood there, it's fine as a novelty, but not a very good place to watch the game from. Ditto the Bud Deck and the rails behind the bullpen and batter's eye.)

Elsewhere in the park I've used rails essentially as mentioned above: a place to watch while eating. Also, I've stopped for a minute or two here and there while strolling.

Second, the problems with congestion on the main concourse are not in any way due to the standing room at the back of the seating area (where there currently are not -- but could someday be -- drink rails).

Congestion is still due to long lines at concessions, along with the aforementioned strolling. It interesting to note that the concourses -- both of them -- got increasingly more congested as the Twins fell farther and farther out of the game last Thursday. This is inevitable. (At the time of the first pitch on opening day the concourses were virtually deserted.)

Third, while it's a pleasure to be able to stand and watch for a while, there is a big difference between the last row of seats on the main level and the standing areas directly behind them. To some, I suppose that will be better than their assigned seat up on the View level, but certainly not to all or even most.

There's a reason they put seats in a ballpark at all: people like to sit down, and generally prefer it to standing after a relatively short period.

So I disagree that buying a cheap ticket and standing behind some nicer seat takes anything away from the person who paid for the nicer seat. Standing is its own form of payment, and not many are willing to pay it for very long.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 8:47 PM by Rick 68

beta -

as a big fan with not a lot of income i love the fact that i can buy a reasonably priced ticket and watch the game from the left field corner... if my willingness to stand for 3.5 hours and watch a game bothers you - i really have to wonder why? standing at a drink rail isn't blocking the concourses in any way.

moreover - having fans stacked along the rails is a brilliant means of building a festive atmosphere at the ballpark. it's a party in left - with passionate fans who, while they may not have a lot of money, pretty clearly are great fans. I've spent two games at that drink rail, met lots of great fans and seen a great game for a total of 26 bucks.

as a value-minded fan - i'd love the chance to buy SRO tickets - but the Twins don't make them available. (at least this season)

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 8:51 PM by CJ Highlight this comment 69

rick -

my knees and feet will attest to the price paid for standing at a rail for a full game... ouch.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 8:54 PM by CJ Highlight this comment 70

If anyone is interested.

From twinsbaseball.com "Chat about Target Field with Twins exec Smith" I think it is tomorrow from 4 to 5 p.m.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 8:57 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 71

Jeff-
You have to be a member of the Twins Territory Team for that. It's $19.95 to join.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 9:19 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 72

I'd be surprised if they add SRO tickets because I was at an evening game last week and as the temp cooled down people started to congregate underneath the heat lamps, precisely where those SRO people would be.

On the Vikes, I think this is better than a 50/50 deal for getting it done. Pawlenty's almost out of office so as long as it meets his "no new taxes" parameter he's fine and the trades are pounding on the DFL to pass a stadium bill to get their guys back to work. Don't rule out the Brookdale site, but the Dome site is still preferred.

K

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 9:52 PM by Kramer Highlight this comment 73

If anyone is interested in purchasing a 1991 World Series Championship ring, click link.

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 10:11 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 74

Wow,

$14K for a gold ring. And it's 10 Karat.

I can make one for a lot less and have it 14K gold, I think I'd have to pass.

Being that I make jewelry for a living, I'm a bit biased

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 10:46 PM by OldMetFan71 Highlight this comment 75

i know last game i used the drink rails for like 10-15 min watched a little batting practice,as i drank my a beer, then i went to my seat and got up just for the food, beer, and bathroom

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 11:19 PM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 76

i meant to say i know what Rick is saying about people only using it for a bit, not the entire game

Posted on April 26, 2010 at 11:25 PM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 77

I do the rail near my section while I have something to eat prior to the game - it's a damn sight more comfortable than trying to eat while seated. Once finished I go sit down and watch the game.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 12:53 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 78

Beta,
When you start restricting fan movement (outside of luxury areas) it becomes a veeeery slippery slope. You start having draconian rules like at the Cell and Dodger Stadium, where your TRAPPED on the level your ticket says and cannot go up or down for any reason whatsoever(other then to leave). I don't think anyone would like to a system like that implemented at Target Field.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 01:09 AM by on_wisconsin 3 Highlight this comment 79

on_wisconsin 3-
Or you'd feel like you were at the Dome again since that's what they did. I absolutely hated that.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 06:48 AM by AJ Highlight this comment 80

On the cool nights, I think its neat to see all the people huddled under the heat lamps on the lower concourse. It really gives the place the look of an intense baseball game.

People standing at the drink rails don't bother me, because if I want to avoid them I just go back to my seat. They are certainly not the cause of any congestion, and really the concourses are getting better every game as people get over the newness, find the next food stand over, or whatever. It is only a real problem 15 minutes before the game starts at Gates 29/34. Easy enough to avoid by going in another gate.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 07:41 AM by Linc Highlight this comment 81

Has anyone else noticed that the Twins logo is still behind home plate in the Dome? I wonder why that is? I saw that watching Gopher baseball highlights on the news the other night.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 08:50 AM by Fred Highlight this comment 82

Field Turf often has the logos painted into the pieces of "grass". They cover it up for Vikings games, so I would bet they don't want to remove the section.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 08:57 AM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 83

On Wisconsin...you bring up a good point about restricting fan movement. First the people that used to police the stairs going down at the dome are gone, because everyone "gets" to go downstairs. The dome had a "class" system of its own.

Next, I have to wonder about the wisdom of pushing everyone on the upper levels to two escalators, creating 3 times the traffic on the main concourse. One of the sacrifices of having open concourses all the way around the park I guess.

Just read up...I guess AJ sort of already made my point.

Last thought...the elevators are a hidden gem. There's a perception they are for handicapped only, which is not the case.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 09:03 AM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 84

I also noticed no dirt around the base paths which really looked strange! That and having about 10 people watching the game and that awfull sounding ping coming from the bats!!!Long live the dump! LOL!

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 09:05 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 85

Why is going to the level that your seat is located in a "class" issue?

I can't see many reasons why you would need to be in the lower level at the dome if you had a ticket for the upper level. I can see why you would want to walk around at TF but not a the dome.

I was against the moat for this same reason. After going to games and sitting in my STH seats in 117, I think the moat is great. There is less congestion in the isle and less people using the concourse.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 09:27 AM by Joe117 Highlight this comment 86

Um where is the moat?

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 09:31 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 87

Great Post Rick!

It is great to see some of those great ideas that you are planning on in regards to the direction that you want to take this site. It would be very interesting to see all the information about this ballpark including section reviews, parking, bar options and information on the secondary ticket market. I think that if you develop this into the site that you are in visioning it will become a great resource for out of town people who are on their ballpark trips. I know that I love resources like this when I go to places like Wrigley, K.C. and Boston. I like to know as much information as possible to make it a great experience. This will go a long way to help make this ballpark a lasting icon of Minnesota and the economic booster that many of us are projecting, keep up the good work Rick!

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 09:31 AM by JCE Highlight this comment 88

The "moat" name is the term some use for the space between the dugout box seats and the home plate box seats.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 09:35 AM by Joe117 Highlight this comment 89

Another hidden gem at TF: stairwells. See them out for a quick exit after a game. The circulation ramps are definitely under-utilized right now. It's more of a walk, but still a good option.

I always hated having to sneak past those people guarding the stairwells at the Dome. It was remarkably easy, however. All I ever had to do was say I was going down to look at one of the souvenir stands and that "I'll be right back up."

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 09:37 AM by Rick 90

I went to last wensdays game, got off the light rail about mid 1st inning, made the mistake of inviting 2 friends with who did not have tickets thinking it was a mid week game vs the indians, there would be atleast nosebleeds left since there was seats left for the bosox games...no dice! there was one tix in the house left a 65.00 ledgends club seat... so we went down to find a scalper to get them some seats... there was only one down there sd sold out.. twins fans were walking up to be begging to buy my tickets... i kept saying no we want seats too...

so in the long run i felt bad for bring my friends down there and sold my tix to a guy and his wife and thier baby who looked real sad that they came all the way to the "City" and was unable to get in...he offered me 50 bucks for both my seats.. i told him 40 bucks but you have to go in and get my season ticket holder stuff and bring it back to me ( twins yearbook, twins monthly and stats book) it was going to expire b4 my next game .. he did, and i feel i made him and his fam happy... we sat at huberts on the plaza watched the game and sipped beers...

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 09:53 AM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 91

They don't let you stand there and watch games in the moat do they? I was down in that area during the open house and sat in the leather chairs, I would think the ushers would be moving you along so to speak if standing around in that area!

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 09:54 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 92

I wonder if most people who need to access the upper deck or even club level are doing so on the first base side, creating possibly more-congestion-than-necessary inside gates 29 and 34. During games I've attended, Gate 6 has been relatively underutilized, and the escalators on that side have been much easier to navigate. I know this was anticipated to a degree, and I know it's more difficult for folks to traipse over to gate 6 if they parked anywhere east of the stadium, but for some reason, my LC section Q tickets (second-to-last LC section down third base) instruct me to enter the stadium at gate 29, which made no sense to me. Much easier for me to enter at gate 6 and shoot right up to my 3rd base seat. Yes, I know you are not required to enter the stadium at the gate specified on your ticket, but it made me wonder if people without previous 'stadium knowledge' are being funneled to less-efficient entrances.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 09:59 AM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 93

to get past the stair people i would just say my wife is with my daughter in the family bathroom and she is freaking out due to the crowds.. works everytime!

if anyone on hear works at TF ther eis a old crusty mean ass usher named Robert H who was working my sec 131 during a game last week. here is how it went down

Robert H: hey you cant stand there!

2 people looking at the bullpen between innings : ok sorry (but still slow to move)

Robert H: runs up and grabs a female by the sholder "get the HELL OUT OF HERE" AS HE STARTS TWICHING

male fan "dont touch her we are moving , chill out"

Robert H "just get out of here dammit"

male fan " I will see you next game Rober H"

Robert H " I probobly wont be working here anymore"

I feel like this old man (i would have to say upp er 70's) was in such a culture shock and overwelmed by the diff of a ball game now then when he was a kid that he was pissed off at all these wippersnappers and could not take it... he was sooo out of line, he went from telling people to move to yelling at them and grabing them b4 they had a chance to move.....kevin do you have any brothers working at TF? im laughing out loud

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 10:04 AM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 94

Liriano v Verlander tonight....should be one hell of a game...

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 10:05 AM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 95

Yep would be nice to take another series. Detroit on a little roll only 2 1/2 out! Lets get some hits with runners on base! Left alot of ducks on the pond so far!

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 10:09 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 96

Tonight is a big outing for the Franchise. He is 3-1 lifetime against Detroit, with his loss being the game that he hurt his elbow and left after an inning or so.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 10:12 AM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 97

Ballpark Authority has its April pictures up. Click my name for the slideshow.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 10:12 AM by Jeff Highlight this comment 98

Really, my lone complaint from the stadium, apart from one long wait for a mediocre Cuban sandwich, was the stairway at the very last section in the Skyline View section down the third-baseline.

They made that stairway narrower than the other ones going up to the 300-level seats. My guess is they ran out of room since it juts up against the Budweiser Party Deck, but it was really two narrow for people to being going up and down on at the same time. Wasn't helped by the yahoos who would stand at the top of the stairs at the railing either watching the game, taking photos or chatting up their friends across the railing in the party deck.

Not much to be done about making that stairway wider. I wonder if they have that same problem down the first-baseline as well?

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 10:53 AM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 99

Responding to Post #44 from Rick.

I am glad that I did hold off on getting rid of my Aug. 14 tickets. The Mini TF looks a lot better, now that it is colored. They must have just had a mold and now have the final piece.

It would be interesting to find out the dimensions of the giveaway. The detail is nice in the flags, foul pole, dugouts, etc.

Click Name for promotional schedule, click picture from August 14.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 12:15 PM by TK Highlight this comment 100

This might be a stupid question but,I know those three big bars that were obstructing Rick's friends view of the batter's box are there for some kind of safety issue but they seem unnessacary don't they? They have the 3 bar set-up in the top level(300) of the infield and out in the top level of the outfield as well. There are probably many obstructed view created because of those stupid things, you would think the Twins would want to remedy this situation if they can as soon as possible. Anyone know the story about those things.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 12:19 PM by Tom D. Highlight this comment 101

Joe117-
I went downstairs at the Dome because there were a few concession options that were not upstairs. Also before the game I liked to look at the items up for auction. The upper concourse had zero things to look at. The reason I was always inside so early was because I love to watch batting practice. After that's over I still had a lot of time on my hands and at least on the lower concourses there was stuff.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 1:46 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 102

Click name for Gopher stadium story from Ballparkdigest.com

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 2:21 PM by Buzz Highlight this comment 103

don't mean to cut open a vein, but i thought offering the "asking" price would finalize the sale on tctraders. not so. i'm bummed and pretty irritated actually.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 2:44 PM by yeahklye Highlight this comment 104

Why can you see the batters in the on deck circle during at bats? I have never seen this before...are they really that much closer to the plate than normal on-deck circles?

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 2:45 PM by Vikeologist Highlight this comment 105

yeahklye, I'm with you. My 2 TCT experiences: 1) A wait of 4 days for a rejection of an offer at asking price. 2) A rejection of an offer of face value ($5 under ask) immediately followed by the disappearance of the listing.

This morning, I went out to stubhub and got what I wanted, paid fees nearly identical to what I would have paid on TCT, and knew I had the tix in, oh... 1/2 second. Learning experience.

TCT might be worth a shot again if I were buying a pile of tickets vs just a couple (lower set fee vs stubhub's percentage), but waiting for responses and feeling like you're being played is agravating.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 106

Vikeologist-
Are you referring to Target Field? If you are, I rarely see the hitters stand near/on the on deck circle. They always seem to stand closer to home plate. At least at every game I've been to. Maybe they don't feel comfortable with where the circle is placed. Otherwise, our CF camera is pretty far away. Maybe it's something with the lens or distance. These are just my thoughts though, if I'm even answering what you're asking.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 4:44 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 107

Just out of curiosity, why exactly did they do the power ball pavilion seats with the wood backs instead of the normal seats? Just because they could?

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 5:58 PM by rback Highlight this comment 108

yeah they are always standing towards homeplate and you can see them when the other player is batting...kind of weird, ive never seen that before at any other stadiums.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 6:30 PM by Vikeologist Highlight this comment 109

Just heard them say on the radio that it is 45 in Detroit now and could be 38 by the end of the game. Why didn't those Tigers build a retractable roof.... how idiotic of them? :-)

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 7:41 PM by Dan Highlight this comment 110

Statistically, there is just a few degree difference in April between and Minneapolis and Detroit. If Minneapolis can have an outdoor ballpark so can we.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 8:17 PM by Tigerfan (aka Kingduck) Highlight this comment 111

Have we found our Ace? His stuff is looking better and better every start. He has made some Tigers look silly with that slider today.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 8:22 PM by Joe117 Highlight this comment 112

What an odd game.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 8:34 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 113

I agree Joe117. Liriano is getting called strikeouts with his breaking stuff. Impressive.

10 K's in all.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 8:36 PM by rback Highlight this comment 114

Did somebody say that there are only 10 slots on the Target Field 'K' board?

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 8:38 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 115

Horrible homeplate ump tonight...for both sides...

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 8:43 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 116

its not his fault, he's just too cold.... PUT A ROOF ON THAT STADIUM!!!!! lol

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 8:47 PM by rback Highlight this comment 117

But what would a roof actually do? It's not raining so we don't have to worry about that. It would still be cold underneath the roof!

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 8:51 PM by MattW Highlight this comment 118

true.... I was joking anyway. The random letters blocked out an "l o l"

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 8:58 PM by rback Highlight this comment 119

TWINS MAGIC NUMBER: 139

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 8:59 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 120

Franky just did awesome! I think he could of completed this game!

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 9:15 PM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 121

Callin it-

LIRIANO = CY YOUNG

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 9:22 PM by amputechture Highlight this comment 122

Sooj, I was thinking the same thing! Why not at least start the 9th before bringing in Herman Munster! Lead of hit and full count to maggs had me veeeeeeeeeery nervous!

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 9:52 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 123

What are the RF bleachers like? I want to go to the game on May 8. I'm not really picky i just want to get into the park & so far it's the cheapest ticket I can find for that day.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 9:53 PM by Chuck Highlight this comment 124

Sooj - If that was a playoff game or "must-win" game, I bet Liriano stays in to start the 9th, but considering it was a "cold" night in Detroit in April and the fact he had 112 pitches through 8 innings, you bring in your closer in that situation. You also have to look at the numbers and matchups.

The off day on Monday also makes that an easier decision meaning your bullpen is well-rested with essentially two days off now due to Liriano's 8 inning performance.

I would like to see more pitchers pitch complete games, but it seems the pitch count is the determining factor more than ever these days.

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 10:18 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 125

That's true mike, didn't take any of that into account, but i just thought it could happen

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 10:42 PM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 126

Just man up!!! yes there are people on TC traders tring to make a buck.. but then there are also buyers thinking they are gonna get 1/2 off tix also.. my tix for may 9 are on there and im asking face value.. no hits... life goes on... everything cant cater to everybody...it says it right on the banner of this page there 14 tix for may at or below face value! i think some of you spent 31 bucks and expect some free fucking tickets to offset that fee...

i paid 31 bucks to rick, and i traded a pair of seats to another member.. and i bought a pair of seats from another both were smooth, and trustworthy, i mailed the check or the tix and the member mailed the tixs to me.. maybe its cuz there are so many new names out here that sellers are weary of yall....

Posted on April 27, 2010 at 11:52 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 127

nice........maz laying down the law for some of you chumbolones again. i like it!

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 02:48 AM by Betaband Highlight this comment 128

Ask and you shall receive!! Target Field tours now available!! Click my name for complete information.

Information from Twinsbaseball.com
Target Field Tours Are Available In Season (April - September)
Target Field Tours are scheduled every Monday through Saturday on Non-Game Days Only.
There are 4 scheduled tours on each Monday-Saturday non-game day.

Morning Tours start at 9 a.m. and 11 a.m.


Afternoon Tours start at 1 p.m. and 3 p.m.

TOUR PRICES
Adults: $15
Seniors (55 & Older): $12
Military Personnel : $12
Students : $12
Kids (ages 3-15) :$7
2 and Under: FREE

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 08:21 AM by Jeff Highlight this comment 129

Seems kinda steep for a tour unless they get you places you normally can't see like the locker rooms and all. Somebody please file a report once you take it. I mean thats the price of my ticket in skyline view upper deck! L..O..L!!!

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 08:28 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 130

maz, I don't think the concerns with TCT are with the prices. More about the lack of timely responses to offers. Also with tickets listed that as it turns out had already been sold elsewhere.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 09:09 AM by schweady Highlight this comment 131

TwinkFan, the link says you get to see the dugouts and "behind the scenes" so it's not just the usual areas you can see walking around the park. Still seems a bit steep, but I'll probably pay it at some point. Sounds worth it at least once.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 10:05 AM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 132

I see that membership in the Twins Territory Team ($19.95) gets you a free tour, along with other perks. I just talked to a rep who said that TTT members will have a promotional code emailed to them to use on the tour ticketing site. clicky for TTT info

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 11:13 AM by schweady Highlight this comment 133

I tried Baseball Almanac and couldn't find it, but does anybody know what the record is for series wins in a row to start a season? We are coming up on 7 if we win one of the next 2.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 11:56 AM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 134

another smooth deal done this morning on tc traders! Thanks rick and other members...man im bummed that mothers day game is sold out i was at TF today trying to get a pair, they were working on the benches around the tradition wall , looks like it was some re painting or somthing dont know...

but i did get mothers days tix from someone else so its all good...

i plan on poppin the question to my girl when we are in kansas city june 4th for the tigers/kc (i will be a kc fan ) any ideas on how i can get the royals to help me out on this? i would think that with the last game at the k the twins played paid attendance was only 16k.. they would welcome out of state fans and hook me up...i was thinking about TF but you all know the twins dont have to be nice to anyone for the next 5 years now... and im sure there are about 20 of those a game going on at TF...

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 12:05 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 135

Maz- Good luck....make sure you have a good idea of what her answer will be before popping the question in such a public place.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 12:07 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 136

Rick...

If I list tickets at StubHub and TCTraders, and Stubhub sells automatically without an approval, how does that reflect on me as a seller if I get two responses simultaneously? Are you (and/or the community) implying sellers should only list on TCT if they list tickets there?

(I'm asking, not arguing)

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 12:08 PM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 137

patmeares, I don't have the answer to that offhand but was just wondering, myself. It would be fun to extend it into the homestand, especially with the difficulty of winning a four game series. I guess there could be a separate category for consecutive series "not lost", if we split the 4 games. We could be going for 10 in a row with a 4 gamer against last place Baltimore, and if successful have to win 2 of 2 against White Sox to keep it going. Of course now that we're talking about it, Detroit or Cleveland will probably put a stop to it.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 12:16 PM by robin Highlight this comment 138

My two cents on that, since I just got registered. I'm thinking we should be responsible, as sellers, to be watching for email confirmations from stubhub as constantly as possible, so we can get back quick to TC Traders. Just as stubhub expects us to get back to them right away if we sell or change our mind about tickets posted there. Of course they have teeth if we violate their expectations. I think there will inevitably be more of an honor system here, and we are responsible for keeping it that way.
That said, I would like to gauge people's interest, if any, in Saints tickets, as an occasional addition to twins games. In a sense, I think they can be given some credit for reviving, or at least making known, the latent interest in outdoor baseball. And they are still cheap, of course.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 12:23 PM by robin Highlight this comment 139

JCTwins,

I think it wouldn't be right to require that if you list tickets on TC Traders that you can't list them anywhere else. But listing in multiple places does require more work, and I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect that as soon as your tickets sell somewhere else, you cancel the listing here.

In the case of tickets selling simultaneously, you will have to decide which offer to fulfill, and I think it's true that Stubhub is going to win that battle more often than not because of how it's set up. But if you have the option, I would just ask that you consider your fellow ballpark geeks here before making a decision.

In talking to some members, I've heard various strategies discussed, including listing tickets first here for a couple of days and then moving on to the other services, or listing certain seats only in one place or another at a time.

There is something of a goldrush mentality in place right now concerning TF, so I'm trying to allow time for everything to shake out before making any drastic changes.

But I did send an email to the TC Traders members last night which outlined a batch of changes coming over the next few days. I'll be talking more about this in my next post, but all of the changes are intended to address issues which have come up.

As always, I'm open to feedback and ideas from everyone.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 12:46 PM by Rick 140

Oh I know the answer she has been bugging me for 2 years

Get a iPhone so all ur emails come to where you are.

Rick we need a iPhone app

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 2:25 PM by Mazaratirick Highlight this comment 141

It would be nice if TCTraders had an option that catered to people who are only interested in making a transaction here and there. I'm interested in selling or trading a couple tickets but there's no way I'm going to pay an up front fee to do so--given the risk that my tickets won't sell. There ought to be an option that charges you when your tickets sell or your trade goes through...similar to StubHub, I suppose but just at a more reasonable rate.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 3:29 PM by st. paul Paul Highlight this comment 142

I did review your upcoming changes, and don't think this was on the list. Could there be a box we can mark that indicates these are being listed elsewhere and there is a tiny chance that our buyer will be simultaneous with another site? It would give us a little goodwill on the rare occasion it happens. Just a thought.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 3:46 PM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 143

Maybe if you have your tickets in more than one place, you should mention that on the TCT site. Rick, maybe consider even developing a special button or something showing that you are selling on multiple sites.

Just an idea!

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 3:55 PM by rback Highlight this comment 144

ha. took the words right out of my mouth, JCTwins.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 3:56 PM by rback Highlight this comment 145

And, actually, I simply forgot to mention it in last nights's email. That indicator is included in this round of changes.

As for an iPhone app, whoever buys me an iPhone gets to tell me how the app should work... (Whoever buys me an iPad gets all that and more!)

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 4:04 PM by Rick 146

Can someone tell me a little more about Hrbek's? Is it open just during games (from when the gates open to an hour or so after)?
Do you have to be inside TF to get in, or is there an outside entrance (if we get there before the gates open)?

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 4:59 PM by luke Highlight this comment 147

no outside entrance, so you must have a ticket to get in. I would assume, then, that it is only open during games.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 5:06 PM by rback Highlight this comment 148

You're probably right rback.
Just wasn't sure.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 6:33 PM by luke Highlight this comment 149

Luke Hughes!!

My new favorite Twins third baseman. ;-)

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 7:03 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 150

I've grown tired of Scott Baker.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 7:41 PM by Matt23 Highlight this comment 151

Other than Liriano our starters all suck! Moonshot Scott gets a 5 run lead and gives it all back in 1 inning. If the Twins dont trade for some starters they will be swept again in the playoff by the spankees.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 7:44 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 152

2 outs, runners at 2nd and 3rd, and Ordonez is up and he is 21 for 43 against Baker. Why the hell don't you walk him and load the bases? VERY POOR MANAGING!

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 7:46 PM by Vikeologist Highlight this comment 153

BULLSH*T BULLSH*T BULLSH*T

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 8:24 PM by Matt23 Highlight this comment 154

Unbelieveable. Another wonderful call from these umpires in this series. WTF?!

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 8:26 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 155

what a retarded game all of the sudden. some guys playing some lazy baseball out there right now.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 8:31 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 156

scott baker = joe mays part II

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 8:32 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 157

not jesse crain

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 8:34 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 158

Tigers will win the division!

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 8:35 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 159

Did we really lead 6-1 in this game???? What a debacle. Hope they have another rally in them!

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 8:35 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 160

Good god can't anybody get an out?????????????????

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 8:36 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 161

Speechless

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 8:37 PM by Matt23 Highlight this comment 162

that a boy span. that's what happens when you get a bit lazy with the ball. it was a tough play sure, but we saw what happened when rayburn got a bit lazy with a pop fly last night.

when you bench manager is scott ullger......well i don't know what to say.

just very pissed off right now.

firedog = a classic front runner. lame.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 8:38 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 163

It all starts with starting pitching and when you give your pitcher a 5-run lead and he turns around to give up that lead, it sets the tone for disaster, and sure enough.

What a disappointing effort by Baker tonight considering you had a 6-1 lead on the road. Never been a huge fan of Scott Baker and Jesse Crain only makes things worse.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 8:38 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 164

For TCTraders I think just a little "Notes" section that you could enter a few things about the tickets, like if they're listed elsewhere.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 8:40 PM by MattW Highlight this comment 165

I'm not sure you can call sprinting 40 some yards to catch a ball and trying to get the ball back in as quick as possible to hold the runner being lazy. He just dropped the ball. Shit happens. Umpires make mistakes as well but when it's the same one back to back nights, it raises some questions.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 8:43 PM by Matt23 Highlight this comment 166

To be clear, I mean he dropped the ball on the transfer. He clearly caught the ball.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 8:46 PM by Matt23 Highlight this comment 167

you think Span was lazy on that play? hell im surprised he got to the ball. he made the catch and dropped it in the exchange...wow, some people see a different game than I do.

Also, Delmon Young looks much faster now that he dropped some pounds.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 8:52 PM by Vikeologist Highlight this comment 168

Beta,

You say I am a front runner I am just stating my opinion I think the Tigers have a better offense and better pitching. The Twins have a better defense(other than that botched call tonight)then the motor city kities. I hope I am wrong cause I hate the Tigers. I just dont see us winning the division with this rotation and no Nathan at the end, although Rausch has done pretty well so far.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 8:54 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 169

For a glorious few innings Luke Hughes had a BA of 1.000, an OBP of 1.000, and a SLG of 4.000. Move over Bambino.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 8:57 PM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 170

Hey Rick,
Some of my all-time favorite shots of yours are the ones of the Skyline-View-end of the Home Plate View seats, section 320, taken from down on 6th St.



For me, these great pics really illustrate how much a part of downtown our new ballpark really is, as though it's always been there. They almost have a "Bostonian" feel to them (although I know a view like that isn't possible of Fenway) it just looks like a view you would see in a great old historic city - which Minneapolis is! I especially like the ones taken from a little bit further away, down on Hennepin and 6th, that include Butler Square and the Hennepin Center for the Arts, they really make downtown Minneapolis look classy. They even make the Target Center (eyesore) look better! You have even commented on one of those pics in the past, saying in the caption that "this will be quite a sight on game days." I couldn't agree with you more. So, since you've finally gotten the opportunity to take a game day pic of this vantage, I was wondering if you might have that same shot (the first one above), but zoomed out. I might get one of those framed.

Nice work!

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 9:05 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 171

firedog-
You think the Tigers have a better offense? Wow.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 9:11 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 172

Tigers team BA .278
Twins team BA .268

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 9:25 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 173

Well that was a clunker! We still got a shot at another series! Tough to see them blow a huge lead. Baker will always be a 500 pitcher. He is what he is! Need Cissssssco to be our stopper and others to come through! Lets win that rubber game and take series #6! Can't win em all boyz!!!!

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 9:32 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 174

man, what a bass akwards game. up 6-1 and lose?!? tough one to take and just shrug off.

i think we can all agree on one thing. you can put this square on the shoulders of scott baker. pat neshek and serve-it-up jesse crain never should have been out there already in just the 6th inning. i may have been a bit too harsh on span about his fielding play on that pop fly, but that poor glove to hand exchange is not a mistake someone of his fielding caliber should make or normally does make....tough play or not.

it is almost like you don't want to give baker too big of a lead in a game until at least the 6th inning otherwise he just seems to get way too timid and unagressive in his pitches if he gets ahead too early. if it is close he usually stays focused and agressive.

i will say it again about scott baker. he often seems like joe mays part II (somewhat overhyped and not really a "dominant" starter. i often struggle to believe tha this guy was three outs from a perfect game against the royals just three years ago.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 9:42 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 175

twin"k"fan: actually, i think it would be series number 7, not 6.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 9:43 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 176

And you list BA to back it up? Double wow. Kansas City has the best BA in the league. Best offense in baseball? And well, the Yanks are right there with us in most categories. I guess they have a worse offense too.

The thing about our offense is that a lot of the guys aren't hitting right now. Span and Kubel, two of the big names, aren't. Do you think Kubel is going to continue to hit below .200? Do you think Span is going to keep barely hovering over .200? Hardy's hit the ball better than his stats show. Same can be said for Young. Harris is better than a below .200 hitter. We are extremely under performing, especially with runners in scoring position or bases loaded. Do you really think Span, Kubel, Hardy and Young are all that crappy?

Right now, the Twins have a top 5-10 offense while the Tigers have a middle of the pack offense. Even with all the Twins struggles they have a much better offense than the Tigers. I'm not saying the Tigers offense is horrible, but it's definitely not on the Twins level.

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 9:44 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 177

My bad beta you are correct series #7! Lets put this one behind us and win the getaway game tommorow afternoon!

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 10:10 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 178

Thanks for saying exactly what I was going to say AJ. Team batting average? Really firedog? I would argue that batting average is not nearly as good a measure of an offense as OBP is, but I think we all know that it's true and it doesn't need arguing...

The bigger problem with you listing any kind of stats at all to support an argument about who is better than whom, which AJ also indirectly pointed out, is that IT'S APRIL. It's retarded to even think about stats in April - the sample set is just too small. Nobody cares all that much about their stats in April, for the same reason that the White Sox aren't even that worried about the fact that they're 8-13. Chicago journalists down here are burying them already, and while they do stink to high heaven right now, it would be prudent to take a step back, notice that they've only played 21 games and that there are 141 left to play, and that THEY'RE ONLY 5 GAMES UNDER .500! If starting now, they played .500 ball for the next two months, they'd still be in it! Bottom line: stats, division lead, league lead, wins, win % - means nothing right now.

Remember how many times in the last 10 years the Royals have gotten off to a strong start? How many divisional titles have they won in that time?

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 10:40 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 179

why the hel do i need to tell you if im selling my tickets on another site??? are you fackin serious? go hang out with mary joe across the street if you need to have your hand held thru everything...jesus christ, rick has made a ticket trading site for us cuz we wanted to trade tix which nobody wants to do then all you do is talk about "add this" "add that" "can you ad a feature that lets me know if the seller really likes me and thinks im a true twin fan"... buy some tix, sell some tix or trade some tix.. then shut the f up...

sorry im just growing tierd of this new breed of folks to this site.. a buch of bitchers...

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 11:10 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 180

i just want to add one more thing...

most of the comments i see now i have never seen before , and it makes me sad cuz in the last 3 years we had a pretty strong base...i never see anybody from back in the day but Beta, and every few weeks maybe kevin or camden ....that makes me feel like i have lost it a bit like them... to much shit to read thru , to much btchin, to much talking about stupid crap... where the hell is o frickin g jeff???? inject us with some knowlage, drop some mathmatics on these beeeeetiches!!!!

i guess im just saying remember Rick has a job, a wife, and kids... so i take evey stupid ass comment about how tc traders needs this or that as a insult to him.. this dude works his ass off ...

rant over.. and no rick i aint buyin gyou no dman i phone!!!!

i gonna refill my drink!

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 11:18 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 181

That's all the forum needed to get back to the old days - a little mazaratirick irreverent humor!

Posted on April 28, 2010 at 11:28 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 182

i agree maz, Rick does a a lot, but also has other obligations, and even so has done such a nice job

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 12:06 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 183

mazaratirick, you don't have to do the actual buying of the iPhone. In fact, don't give it another thought.

Just get your drink refilled, maybe have a couple more, then shoot me your credit card number quick before you turn in for the night. I'll take real good care of it, promise!

The whole thing will be completely painless...

(Thanks for the props.)

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 12:16 AM by Rick 184

I already linked to the Chicago Sun-Times article White Sox Situation: Grave, but the picture in the actual newspaper is almost better than the article itself. It still means nothing--writing off a team in April--but I still think it's funny.

...plus, I was just proud to see Minnie and Paul standing so tall over the Sox' coffin in a Chicago newspaper! I've missed being home for the past 8 years, but I've certainly enjoyed living here while we've wiped the floor with them in 5 of those seasons!

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 12:28 AM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 185

theloniousjoe - that illustration (and the story isn't half bad) in the chicago sun-times is f-ing great! thanks for the link. as you said i also love seeing minnie & paul towering over the white sox grave.......and in a chicagoland fishwrap of all places.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 01:27 AM by Betaband Highlight this comment 186

theloniousjoe - just in case some folks don't realize you posted the hyperlink to that story within your comment i went ahead and reposted it again. click on my name for it.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 01:28 AM by Betaband Highlight this comment 187

Thanks beta,
everyone should definitely take a look at that pic from the Sun-Times folks. It's quite precious. The Chicago sports journalist scene is kind of funny. It's not nearly as vitriolic as Boston and New York sports journalism is, but it's a bit melodramatic, as you can see in the pic. Anytime something remotely bad happens with one of the teams here, there is always a little bit of a feeling of hysteria, followed by complete and total resignation.

Side note: as I was looking through thesaurus.com for an appropriate term to describe the giving-up attitude you get from the sports journalists here in Chicago--appropriate terms highlighted in yellow by me--this just happened to be the advertisement on the page:


How funny is that?

In the future, I'll probably put those links in my name as well as in the text. Everyone on here is more used to the sn=link anyhow.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 03:11 AM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 188

Haha, that paper is awesome.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 06:44 AM by AJ Highlight this comment 189

good lord, maz, you need to seriously chill. us old-timers remember when you joined and tolerated all of your rants about frickin tail-gating...

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 08:49 AM by yeahklye Highlight this comment 190

I've been here basically from the beginning (though for a long time as a very rare poster under a different "alias") and I get what maz is talking about. Sometimes I long for the simpler days of Locker's horizontal beam contests... by the way, those tailgating rants were hilarious. But then I remember that if we were still counting those beams and debating tailgating we wouldn't be watching baseball at the new park! Just seems like the evolution of Rick's site... and some of us are more averse to change than others. Regardless, thanks for what you do, Rick.

Personally, I could go for more drunken posts just like maz's :)

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 10:44 AM by Margaret Thatcher Highlight this comment 191

Maz,

That's what happens when this site got publicity. It's good news/bad news. Good news for Rick because his traffic soars. Bad news for us because it usually brings morons into the fold. I think most of us old-timers just check back for Rick's posts. I have set ignore to most people that weren't already here over a year ago so I only read posts from people that have a clue regarding the history of topics already discussed on this site (too hard for some to search I guess). I also wish there would be a separate thread for TCT so those of us who don't give a shit about it and want to read and/or discuss the ballpark can do so without weeding through miles and miles of TCT garbage. Also, I tend to read the other ballpark blog as most of the idiots on here either don't post there or don't know about it.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 11:36 AM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 192

Tailgating should be banned at baseball games.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 11:43 AM by moda253 Highlight this comment 193

After the fun I had in KC last weekend 'gating, I am going to have to disagree with you Moda. Playing whiffle ball in the rain Saturday (hammered might I add) was awesome.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 11:47 AM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 194

Dick and Bert were talking about the major league record for series wins to start the season. The number was 9 but I don't remember the team.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 12:33 PM by Paul Highlight this comment 195

From Tuesday's live web chat with Kevin Smith. Click my name for the entire chat.

One bit of information that I found interesting...
hkillebrew: Will Target Field have free Wi-Fi available? It would be great to look up stats on my iPod Touch with MLB At Bat 2010 app at the game.

Kevin Smith: Working on that.

I thought the Twins stated that they were not going to have free Wi-Fi available at Target Field. It's nice to see the Twins adding this to Target Field.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 12:35 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 196

i'm w/ you, moda. tail-gating at baseball games is yet another stupid "nfl-izing" of our national pasttime which was always intended to be and is best enjoyed when the ballpark is located either in the urban core itself or in residential neighborhoods.

ballparks in the middle of concrete parking lot wastelands make james naismith turn in his grave...

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 12:47 PM by yeahklye Highlight this comment 197

Thanks Paul!

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 12:54 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 198

Jeff,

There's more to the WiFi story. Initially, the Twins said it would definitely be available, and it was a priority.

In time, they stopped mentioning it, and ultimately backed off on that pledge when asked.

A few weeks ago, there was a quote saying that it was not a priority for them and they had no plans to introduce it.

Now we add the quote you've provided.

Like so many other things, they're working on these issues as they come up, and perhaps people have started to ask them directly.

But I'm going to make a small leap and include the under-the-radar issue of 3G and other mobile network availability, which has been spotty at times.

You may recall that the Twins have been trying to sell the mobile phone companies on some sort of booster system which is available at the stadium. From the sound of it, sales have not been going well, and this has been born out by reports from fans.

My hunch is that dropping free WiFi came about after they discovered the possible revenue stream associated with the booster system. Now, with sales going badly and fans getting a little restless, they're having to rethink the whole thing.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 1:06 PM by Rick 199

I can go either way with tail-gating at ballgames. Who doesn't like hanging out with family and friends, grilling some burgers and maybe throwing a ball around? In addition to being fun, it's also a money saver. It's much cheaper to bring your own stuff to drink and eat than stopping in a bar or restaurant. That being said, I also like the urban ballpark "feel".....

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 1:25 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 200

Holy Cow we made the washed up Dontrelle Willis look like Cy Young today! 6 innings 4 hits 6 K's! Granted no Morneau and Mauer but come on guys! You gotta light up this washed up stiff!!!! First series loss may be a coming! OUCH!

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 1:58 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 201

Twins are driving me to drink...after work today.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 2:00 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 202

Well 3 outs from losing our last series! 4 hits today! OUCH!!!!

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 2:10 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 203

Another clutch 2 out hit by the Tigers makes it 3-0! Up till that hit Pavano pitched a pretty good game! Only 2 earned runs! Rally Hats or drinking hats ready? How bout a 9th inning rally?

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 2:16 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 204

TWINKFAN...even with that hit... Pavano pitched a GREAT game!

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 2:19 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 205

Twins offense is offensive. I think there stuck in neutral! We must lead the league in hitting into double plays. Cripes Dontelle Willis are you kidding me. Span, Kubel, Young all need to pull their head out of their a**.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 2:25 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 206

1. Does Cuddy fall behind in the count in every at bat?
2. Does Cuddy lead the league in GIDP?

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 2:25 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 207

I forgot what losing series felt like. I am going to have like 7-8 beers after work now.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 2:25 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 208

14 straight scorless ininings now! Ok lets go into Cleveland and kick some arse!! Will the free swiniging canuck be back tommorow with Maure? Tigers just 1 win back in the win column!

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 2:31 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 209

Troy, Cuddy has GIDP 5 times this year, 22 times last year!

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 2:40 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 210

at least with this B lineup output we don't have to listen the fsn guys crow abuoat consecutive series wins to start a season. it's like the twins can never do any wrong for these people. i'm sure dick bremer is a great guy, but geeze.

thursday, day game, B lineup...these games only count as half a loss right.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 2:46 PM by tim Highlight this comment 211

Yep the Gardy special Tim!

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 2:53 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 212

Pavano's Line today 8 IP, 7 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 5 SO. 102 Pitches, 62 Strikes

Twins use 1 pitcher today. Tigers use 3. Twins still get the Loss.

Our bats need to turn it around pronto.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 3:02 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 213

Span is batting .143 with only 3 BB, 6 SO and 2 RBI in the last 6 games...not good at all for the lead off hitter that we just signed a contract extension with.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 3:05 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 214

Twins need to come home to Target Field and remember what it's like to play in front of 38,000+ fans. Seeing all those empty seats in other stadiums is rather sad. Where are their fans?

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 3:16 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 215

Yep nice little homestand starting with those Tigers again on Monday! Will be there Tuesday night for my first night game and first of 6 games in May!!!!

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 3:35 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 216

F_T_K - It was a day game in the middle of the week with kids in school..In most cities, there wouldn't be much of a crowd today. We are the exception because of the new ballpark - but in a couple of years, it'll be the same here. Not to mention that Detroit is going through much tougher economic times than other areas in the country.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 3:37 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 217

Fred is right on -- There were many noon weekday games when the Metrodome had a lot of empty seats as well.

Low attendance is pretty much expected during any noon weekday game at any MLB ballpark in April, May and September unless you are at Wrigley Field, Fenway Park, and this year, Target Field.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 4:02 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 218

Back to TF discussion re. games on TV.

Did anyone else think the TC logo on the backside of the pitching mound was not lined up, in a direct line through home plate and the pitching rubber and straight away center field.

Or was it just the camera angle on FSN?

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 4:10 PM by trebor651 Highlight this comment 219

Treb, I'm sure most teams are not too picky about the logo on the mound being centered or not. Wonder how the get that on the dirt? L..O..L...!!!!

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 4:34 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 220

TwinkFan I also wonder how they get it in the dirt.

The reason I ask about it not being centered, it appears from what I've seen the groundskeeper is very particular about "his" field,and I would think that being off center would be disconcerting to him. But then again may be he doesn't have to watch the game on TV.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 4:53 PM by trebor651 Highlight this comment 221

The weekday afternoon game is a good argument, until you factor in the 22,000 and 19,900 attendance figures for the previous two night games (roughly 50% capacity). Seems the Tigers just are not drawing, or the cool weather is keeping them home.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 4:56 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 222

trebor651-
I think most teams do it off center. At least the ones that I remember.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 4:57 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 223

And I think they just use a darker dirt. I don't think they'd want the logo in the center anyway because if a pitcher walks off the mound, a lot of the times he does it straight back. He'd walk on the logo and mess it up. The rosin bag and cleat cleaner are probably in the way also.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 5:10 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 224

I think it's off center in terms of not aligning with home plate but it's on center in terms of aligning with the camera angle.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 5:17 PM by st. paul Paul Highlight this comment 225

Not to belabor the point, but when watching the games from Kansas City the KC was centered and lined up with home plate and the pitching rubber, with the rosin bag and cleat cleaner off to the third base side.

Of course you only got to see that view a few times because of the fountaing spray on the camera lens.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 5:27 PM by trebor651 Highlight this comment 226

Yeah, I don't think every team does it. Most teams leave it blank. It's just the ones that I remember have always been off to the third base side. I was in KC and I didn't pay too much attention to the mound, but I would have caught it on TV.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 6:25 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 227

There we go!!! no we got some action.. yekllel or whatever.. yea i remember those days too.. they were fun.. and you have a simple choice to make when going to a game.. just doint tailgate! awsome, case closed.

when i dont want to smoke crack... i just dont.. i dont go down to broadway and start bitching at the smokers.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 8:10 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 228

To color the dirt on the mound they lay a stencil on the mound with the logo and soak it with water. I saw them doing it at TF on a news show at night.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 9:16 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 229

Here is a set of photos showing them doing this for the Mets.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 9:20 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 230

Since listing tickets on multiple sites has become an issue (and since I just made my first listing on TC Traders), I will mention here that I have also listed them on stubhub and will make an effort to check as often as I can, so if I am fortunate to get an offer I will be able to quickly take them off stubhub, and if sold on stubhub, I will try to get back here and delete the listing. The May 5 day game, Legend Club M, $50 here and $65 on stubhub. I can check in the morning, at lunch and after work. M is the first LC section to the left of home plate that is completely outside of the net.

Posted on April 29, 2010 at 11:42 PM by robin Highlight this comment 231

Nice article by Powers in today's Pioneer Press.
Topics: Gum in the urinals and capital improvements at TF.

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 07:40 AM by luke Highlight this comment 232

If TF people are reading: Instead of building more concession stands, just allow people to order regular food at the ice cream side of the stand, and ice cream at the regular side of the side. The lines are short or non-existent on the cream side at the beginning of the game, and long toward the end.

Also I believe both sides remain fully staffed, even when there is no line. Cross-train those people to work both sides so the busy side runs more efficiently.

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 08:16 AM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 233

Badjuggler - Attendence is down in MLB as a whole...but again, Detroit has close to 40% unemployment in some areas..not too many families have the discretionary income to go to a ballgame. It's not that aren't "supporting" their Tigers, it's that they can't afford to go to a game.

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 08:18 AM by Fred Highlight this comment 234

toronto is the one that is really embarrassing to see. it looks like 5,000 at a game there some nights. all those ugly light blue seats. the vibe is non-existent. it's like playing baseball in an aircraft hanger. remember when that stadium was fresh new and exciting? now it's like a dinosaur. i remember being jealous of that franchise and its stadium back in the early 90's.

on the flip side, it's always fun watching a giants game televised from their park, what a gem that place is.

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 08:54 AM by tim Highlight this comment 235

Apart from the factors listed above, I think the Detroit fans are suffering from a 2009 collapse hangover. That flop down the stretch upset Tigers fans greatly and was the kind heartbreak that makes people push away from a team rather than get hyped up for the following season.

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 11:35 AM by Jorge Highlight this comment 236

Well the kities could find themselves in first place if our boys contunue to struggle! Will be there Tuesday night. Anybody know what the Blackburn family emergency was? Time to ship Crainwreck out for assingment and bring another arm up. Also pehaps bring Morales up and send Buetera back also. I'm worried about Blackburn holding up for the year!

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 11:49 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 237

To the offeror for my 5/5 tickets, I mistakenly clicked on the decline link, when I meant to click on "access". I am going to take my tickets off stubhub now, if they aren't already sold, and will accept your offer if not too late. Not sure how to do it, but sorry about the confusion.

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 12:59 PM by robin Highlight this comment 238

stubhub is making it difficult for me. I am doing everything right, I think, trying to delete or deactivate even though I would get more money back, I want to honor the offeror's request. I have to get back to work, so I'm not sure I can resolve it now.

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 1:19 PM by robin Highlight this comment 239

I have now increased the price on stubhub, making them unlikely to sell. Still can't deactivate them.

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 1:53 PM by robin Highlight this comment 240

Did the Front Office really say that gates 29 and 34 "seem to be taking on too much traffic"? I think if you stop putting the gate # on the skyline deck tickets as gate 29, I think less people would enter there.

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 3:13 PM by rback Highlight this comment 241

What's puzzling to me is why anyone would be surprised by these numbers:

The Twins know exactly what percentage of fans come and go via light rail (20 percent), how many ride bicycles to the game (450) and which gates seem to be taking on too much traffic (60 percent of the fans are entering through gates 29 and 34).

They match almost exactly the projections everyone had been working from. In fact, the projections were so deadly accurate that it's kind of scary.

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 3:31 PM by Rick 242

Stupid question I know but does anybody know what "brand" of speakers they are using at Target Field? I could have swore I seen JBLs but now I'm wondering...

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 4:09 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 243

If TF people are reading: Instead of building more concession stands, just allow people to order regular food at the ice cream side of the stand, and ice cream at the regular side of the side. The lines are short or non-existent on the cream side at the beginning of the game, and long toward the end.

Also I believe both sides remain fully staffed, even when there is no line. Cross-train those people to work both sides so the busy side runs more efficiently.

JCTwins - I think you are on to something. I was at game #2. My friend walked right up to a Senor Smokes and bought his nachos and drink. I wanted a hot dog. Even though the hot dog concession was right beside it and workers could access either "side" I had to wait to buy my hot dog instead of being able to buy it through the Senor Smoke register.

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 4:21 PM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 244

Anybody know if I would be allowed entrance to the Metropolitan Club, or other STH only areas, with a ticket printed off of StubHub that was sold to me by a STH?

After talking with a Twins rep, I think I'll probably find out that the answer is "no." I'm feeling like it's worth a try, but I sure won't be disappointed if I'm turned away.

Tired of getting clueless reps at 33-TWINS. Tried 3 times before hitting someone who understood the question and would actually attempt an answer. Even he admitted to not being sure if they would scan the ticket or if it required the actual STH membership card to gain access.

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 4:22 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 245

schweady,

I think we've answered this one before. At the Met Club door, they scan your ticket. (STH member card means nothing in that context.) If your ticket has STH privileges, you are entitled to pay the cover and get in. If not, you'll be turned away.

This is true no matter how you came by the ticket. The bar code is the key.

The trick is finding out whether you are buying from a STH on Stubhub or not. There's no visible way to tell, and you get no contact with the seller, so you can't ask directly.

The only way to gauge that may be to look and see if exactly the same seats are being sold for other games. Even that won't be perfect, but it's probably worth a check.

Beyond this, it is possible that the new Stubhub bar code is stripped of all STH privileges anyway. But I suspect not. Maybe someone out there reading this can verify that they did successfully get into the Met Club using a Stubhub ticket. That's all we would need.

All of that aside, the lines at the door have been long, the food is quite expensive, and my hunch is it isn't worth the effort to get in unless that's the sole reason you're going to the ballpark.

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 4:34 PM by Rick 246

"Cover". ??????????????????????????????????????????

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 4:44 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 247

From the Metropolitan Club details page:

There is a $5/person table fee which will be applied each order for watching the game at a viewing table or drink rail location during the second seating.

"Table fee" or "cover charge" -- a rose by any other name...

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 4:51 PM by Rick 248

Thanks, Rick. And, yes, I know I read something like this before but it never sinks in until you run into it personally. I will be trying this out for the Wednesday noon Tigers game.

Sorry, but searching this site for info like this becomes a bit of a goose hunt because of the posts with multiple comment pages tabs... that and the search result page doesn't usually take to directly to the correct tab...

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 4:54 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 249

By the way, that page does also say:

Access the Club by showing season ticket holder game tickets or your Season Ticket Holder I.D. card which is included with your season ticket package.

But we've had reports here of people trying to use their card and being turned away because they did not have a ticket with a bar code.

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 4:55 PM by Rick 250

I know, schweady. It's hard to know even what keyword to search on...

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 4:56 PM by Rick 251

rback - much agreed. When I went on the 14th, my section was 111 (Home Plate Box) but the ticket told me to go through Gate 34. Don't know why, Gate 14 is right by section 115 and I wouldn't have had to walk thru the entire concourse to get to my seat.

However, I can see why they did it: a)enter at the Plaza and check out that view b) get a chance to walk thru the concourse of your new ballpark to see where things are.

Even though the tickets are printed for Gate 29 or 34 (the "high" traffic ones), I'm curious if you can get in ANY of the gates regardless of what it says on the ducat.

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 5:06 PM by luke Highlight this comment 252

You can go in any gate. I walk over from the North Loop, and always go in Gate 6 (or the someday Gate 7 around the corner), no matter what my tickets say.

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 5:13 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 253

My stubhub electronic ticket for Wednesday doesn't even have a gate number on it. Guess I won't get in...

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 5:28 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 254

One more thing about Powers' column today, especially in regards to gum in the urinals...I wonder if TF is going to now rival or even best Dodger Stadium for the title of "Cleanest Ballpark in MLB"?

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 6:20 PM by luke Highlight this comment 255

AHHHHRRRGGGHHH... ITS HAPPENING AGAIN!!!

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 7:55 PM by luckylager Highlight this comment 256

man, denard span involved (cuddyer too) in another inning extending play in the outfield. another pop-fly that isn't caught. i don't know......maybe he needs to take a day off and regain his usual focus.....because in the last three games his "focus" hasn't been there and it has been costing his team.

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 7:58 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 257

and they we bring in messy jesse crain. i don't like it one bit.

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 8:08 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 258

Crain Wreck! Crain Wreck!

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 8:10 PM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 259

Random question... has anyone ever tried fishing with the Twins rapala thatt they hand out at the game? Does it catch fish?

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 8:30 PM by Kingduck Highlight this comment 260

i never have, but Gardy said one edition, "sank like a rock"

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 8:52 PM by Elston Gunn Highlight this comment 261

"Our wave is high, and we ridin' our wave"... oh O-Dawg, you are a poet!

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 9:39 PM by Jax Highlight this comment 262

TWINS MAGIC NUMBER: 138

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 10:08 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 263

Rick,

I believe that the $5.00 cover only applies if you request seating on the outside veranda where you can eat and see the game. There is no cover charge to go to the Metropolitan Club bar or to dine at any of the indoor tables.

Posted on April 30, 2010 at 10:08 PM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 264

Clublevel - that's my understanding as well.

K

Posted on May 1, 2010 at 12:43 PM by Kramer Highlight this comment 265

The met club is nice, almost too nice, with that being said I dont think i will go back in there unless there is a rain delay, no real vibe in there just to wedding receptiony...but it is damn nice...i bought a bottle of champagine when i was in there during a game... baseball parks these days....

Posted on May 1, 2010 at 7:57 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 266

Sorry -- I don't think TCT handles this request, or I would use it.

Would anyone be interested in using 2 tickets for this Tuesday 5/4, in trade for tickets Monday, 5/3 or Thursday, 5/6? My tickets are section 319, row 6, aisle. I'll pay ticket price difference if there is an issue. If it works in your favor, you keep the difference.

Thanks! You can email me if you have a couple to trade on short notice.

Posted on May 1, 2010 at 8:04 PM by Linc Highlight this comment 267

Way to go Matty G!!!!!

Posted on May 1, 2010 at 8:17 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 268

Bless your heart Drew, you just can't hit!

Posted on May 1, 2010 at 9:18 PM by Locker Highlight this comment 269

What is he doing in the majors, BTW? Is this just some favor for his dad?

Posted on May 1, 2010 at 9:23 PM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 270

Well, it was him or Ramos. There was no way that Ramos was going to play every day so there was no point in bringing him up. Mauer's down for at least a few days, so Ramos will be starting while he's up here.

Posted on May 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 271

Really Maz? A bottle of champagne? Classy

Posted on May 1, 2010 at 11:14 PM by Jim Highlight this comment 272

so does gardenhire figure out a way to tell that idiot bill smith to "go and pound sand" and keep ramos up here as the permanent back-up catcher for good? send butara back to the minors where he belongs?

i would love it, but won't count on it. dr. no bill smith is a stickler for making sure guys arbitration clocks never start.

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 02:42 AM by Betaband Highlight this comment 273

why did Butera get the start over Ramos is the first place? i mean during spring training, didn't Ramos, hit over 300 while Butera was in the 100 range? Is Butera's glove that much more better?

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 07:37 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 274

Eh, I agree with the decision to leave him down. He needed to play every day. Butera has played all of four times this year. I don't think Mauer would have rested more. He would have still went to Gardy saying he wanted to play those times that he did. I'd rather have Mauer start than Ramos. And it would have been highly unlikely that both would start at the same time since we have two DH's already. And risky to the lineup if one gets hurt...

And no, Ramos is said to be better in every way, even defensively than Butera. I think the only thing he might not have over Butera is game calling. Plus, Butera did not cost us the game last night. And Ramos hasn't been good in the minors so far. He needed more seasoning, and still does. He's not Joe Mauer.

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 09:05 AM by AJ Highlight this comment 275

yea it was my way of breaking in the new park....95.00 worth... had to try it..

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 11:01 AM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 276

Throwing this out there...I have some Legends Club seats that I won't be using for the Tigers series...section Q. If anyone is interested, I'll sell them for face, which is $50 each. Paypal with e-ticket transfer though the Twins website. I have 2 or 4 available. Thanks. Click my name if interested.

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 1:36 PM by Twins2010WSChamps Highlight this comment 277

Ramos 3 for 3!! It's been fun Butera, hasta la vista baby!

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 1:46 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 278

Cuddyer = Double Play!

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 2:01 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 279

How many times does this Twins team need to leave runners on base, not to mention, bases loaded.

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 2:48 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 280

Lots, Mike...lots.

Ramos 4-4, almost hit a HR. He's been a beast.

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 3:05 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 281

The Twins should have 14/15 runs on the board in this game!

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 3:06 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 282

Wow...16 left on base again today. Don't worry firedog. Cuddy will hit a homer tomorrow when we're down 4-0 in the 5th inning and nobody is on base.

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 3:16 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 283

Honestly, leaving 16 men-on-base, I'm surprised we're ahead 8-3.

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 3:20 PM by luke Highlight this comment 284

Lets move Mauer to third and put this kid Ramos in at catcher everyday. The ball just jumps off this guys bat. Hey 5-4 road trip, will take that everytime. Lets get some revenge on the motor city kities now!!!

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 3:36 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 285

I think 5-4 is a disappointment on this road trip as they should have been 6-3 or 7-2 in my mind. The blown game by Baker in Detroit is one and the Sunday game in KC and even the Saturday extra-inning game in Cleveland.

Left way too many runners on base and too many other missed opportunities.

While some may think a 5-4 road trip (Within the division) is acceptable, elite teams learn to close out games on the road. These are the losses that separate the elite teams (Yankees, Phillies, Angels) from the other playoff teams come October. So if the Twins finish the year 4 games behind the Yankees for best record, you can look back to some of the losses on this road trip as great examples.

I am sick of hearing the "marathon, not a sprint" cliche, when the fact of the matter is each and every game is of significance, especially for a team coming off of two consecutive game 163 tiebreaker games.

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 4:02 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 286

Mike-
I'm with you. The Detroit game with a 6-1 lead kills me the most. We cannot let that happen. The reason Detroit is so close to us is because they've had a lot of games like that.

Last night's game could have been prevented, but it's easier for me to give Matt Guerrier a break. He's been excellent so far and he just didn't have it then. We should have won, but so far Matty G has provided great relef besides that game. Manship did WAY better than I expected.

We should have 3-4 more wins this season and if we could hit with bases loaded....

The Detroit comeback game is the one I desperately want back. And Pavano's great outing in that last game too. I hope we take it to them tomorrow.

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 4:17 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 287

We're gonna have to take it to the Tigers tomorrow since we have swivelhead Scott starting on the mound. Luckily for the Twins, Max Scherzer sucks!

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 4:29 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 288

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but did anyone see that report in which the Cleveland Indians were named the most hated team in MLB? I thought it was laughable until I watched this series.

I think it's those God-forsaken drums. They never shut up. First inning, third inning, ninth inning - it doesn't matter. I thought it was pretty funny when the drums were still beating when the Tribe was down 8-3 in the 9th with 2 outs and nobody on base. Never say die!

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 5:59 PM by Jeff T. Highlight this comment 289

I saw that and it was very weird to me. No matter how you look at it I can't see the Yankees being less hated than anyone else overall (I personally hate the White Sox more though). There is usually Yankees fans on one side and then everyone who hates the Yankees on the other.

And to add, the cowbells in TB bother the crap out of me. I've never been bothered by drums though.

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 6:10 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 290

I think the drums are cool. The cowbells are hella-annoying, but the one that I hate the most is that damn rally monkey out there on the west coast.

I still love it when the Stinebreners fall on their face, of course.

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 7:18 PM by Linc Highlight this comment 291

Those drums are d@mn annoying as hell!

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 7:40 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 292

TWINS MAGIC NUMBER: 137

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 8:10 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 293

Sounds like they are introducing some legislation tommorrow morning towards a new Vikings stadium. Hopefully something gets done on that front as well. After going to TF and seeing how awesome that place is and how it will benefit the Twins for years with all the revenue it will generate, hopefully the Vikes willget the same.

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 8:12 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 294

Just swapped tickets within my season ticket group. Look forward to seeing you all there, even if my tickets aren't in the same section, I will be sure to stop by.

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 8:55 PM by Jared Highlight this comment 295

Easy with the Ramos excitement boys. Next thing will be people asking to put Manship in the rotation after one good start.

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 8:56 PM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 296

Oops, left out the part about the fact that the game in question is the May 4th game in which a good portion of you will be attending. Looking forward to seeing you all there.

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 8:57 PM by Jared Highlight this comment 297

jctwins - you are way off. the reason for the excitement by most (and rightfully so in my opinion) is because ramos did the same thing (i.e. beat the crap out of the ball) all through spring training. the only reason he was sent back to AAA and butera was installed as the back-up behind mauer is because lame bill smith does not want ramos' arbitration clock to start.

Posted on May 2, 2010 at 11:49 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 298

mazaratirick- this is a VERY late reply, but I was at the wednesday game where Liriano went against the Indians, my bro and I decided to walk around the lower deck to check out all the standing/viewing areas, and we got to the outfield sections and a couple spots we walked up to the rail where it was for handicap seating but no one sitting there, and had no problem with the first two ushers, they didnt mind, got to his section, and I do believe it was the last lower outfield section before the bullpen and when we went to walk up to the rail (just in time for that saving DP to keep CLE off the board) this old ass usher trots at us yelling "YOU CANT GO PAST THIS LINE, GET BACK!" while swatting his hand at us as if to back hand me lol.. and he was pointing to the seem in the concrete floor as the line not to cross, as if we knew... I was pretty p.o'd but was so surprise I didn't mutter a word, I haven't a clue what I would've said........ we just walked on to the batter's eye..

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 12:19 AM by Jcm-Baseball Highlight this comment 299

Obviously depth is a good thing, but how would the Twins get at bats for Ramos once Mauer is back? With the Thome, Kubel, Young rotation in LF and DH (I know, Thome only DH's and Young does not, but you get the idea) I think Ramos would not improve sitting on the bench and you can't sit the 3 players listed above more than they already are. I think we need to figure out how we could DH for our third baseman!

Big homestand coming up - I'm hoping for 7 wins out of 9. (I know, one day at a time)

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 07:51 AM by Ole Highlight this comment 300

firedog, I hope they don't go with that design. It looks like a cross between a greenhouse and a circus tent.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 08:46 AM by Dan Highlight this comment 301

Beta-I don't disagree...I just enjoy the sports talk radio type excitement when one new guy has a great day all of a sudden the rubes think the team should install that guy permanently and scrap whatever the original plan was. Not saying that's the case here, but I can about hear the call-in shows now.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 09:09 AM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 302

Dan,

I agree with you on that design it looks terrible, if it has a fixed roof they won't go with that design.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 09:18 AM by firedog Highlight this comment 303

Beta,

I'm wondering...you've called Bill Smith an idiot and lame in your last two posts. After this last offseason and the moves he's made, what does he have to do in your opinion to not be lame or an idiot anymore? I think he's grown into his position after not getting much from the Santana trade and the jury still being out on the Delmon Young trade (although I think even if Delmon's an all-star, it wouldn't have been worth giving up Barlett and Garza).

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 09:45 AM by Faber College Alum Highlight this comment 304

seems to me part of being a GM includes needing to take arbitration into consideration. It is not strictly about performance on the field...

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 10:02 AM by Dan Highlight this comment 305

yeah it is pretty ugly! Honestly i don't think the people of Hennepin County will pay for another stadium, unless it is like the twins one, where part of the tax went back to the community. ie. Library being able to open on Mondays.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 10:25 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 306

Looks like we got a different grass cut pattern from looking at the web cam. Lets hope Blacky gets us a good game tonight! Be the right time for our first sweep!!!!!!!!

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 11:35 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 307

I hate to break it to you TwinkFan, but Moon-shot Scott is the starting pitcher for your Minnesota Twins this evening.

Either way, he needs a solid outing after that debacle in Detroit last week giving up a 6-1 lead. Get some confidence back, but more importantly, give your team a chance to win at home against the second place Tigers.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 11:58 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 308

i'm liking the different field cut pattern. god i'm a rube. still, it's cool we have an actual grass field to manicure like that.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 12:11 PM by tim Highlight this comment 309

Anybody else excited to go to a cold weather game at TF tonight? Every game I've been to has been warm. Not going to be the case tonight.

Excited to see if the new dollar dogs are crappy too...if I am able to even get one.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 12:26 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 310

I am looking forward to the chaos that ensues when newbs try to order a dollar dog at Senor Smokes, or even just the wrong hot dog stand. Then they finally get to the right stand after fighting the crowd around gate 34 and they're sold out 60 minutes before the game even starts. BWA HA HA HA HA.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 12:40 PM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 311

i bet that, due to the vikings ownership hubris, the vikings stadium will have NONE of the "mojo" that tf does (history, tie-in to first avenue, multimodal transportation focus...). the one thing positive that all the anti-stadium detractors did was FORCE the twins ownership to do everything right to make tf just flat-out sing. my guess is that the wilfies will probably be less nervous about doing all that kind of stuff for the vikes stadium and just sit back like fat cats. after all, they'll think: this is a VIKINGS town (and an NFL country)...

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 1:08 PM by yeahklye Highlight this comment 312

JCTwins,

What's the scoop on the dollar dogs?

What stands are they being sold at? What dog is included in the dollar a dog promotion? Is it a new item just for the night or is it one of our current selections?

I'm bringing my brother in law to the game tonight, it is his first TF game. I'm sure that will be the first thing on his mind tonight.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 1:24 PM by minn55441 Highlight this comment 313

Per Twins Twitter:

$1 Hot Dog Night - Sold at:Taste of Twins, Halseys Sausage Haus,Mill City Grill Hennepin Grille 2 per person First and Third Base Lounges

I don't know how many they are going to sell, or what quality anyone could suggest. I think they will be special dogs that aren't typically sold right?

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 1:31 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 314

Ooops my bad Mike, yep Moonshot tonight vs Sherzerand. My first night game Blacky vs Dontrell Willis tommorow night! Willis can't beat us again can he????Dang miss out on those $1.00 dogs!!!! First of 6 games in May!!!!

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 1:41 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 315

Minn, Pat pretty much covered it. I don't know any of the details except that at the dome, they were only sold at hot dog stands, and it was the $3 dog, not the $6 "Dome Dog". Of course the majority of the people never even knew there were four different dogs at the dome.

At the dome they were almost always sold out before first pitch in the busy areas, so I'm sure it will be worse at TF.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 1:59 PM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 316

Ballparkmagic night tomorrow should be a good time!

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 2:00 PM by dirwin7 Highlight this comment 317

I'm bringing my eleven year old boy to his 1st outdoor MLB game tonight. I don't know who is more excited, him or me waiting to see his expression when we get there.

Glad to know it's Dollar Dog Night also!!! Being that it may be a bit chilly, I may have to try some of that Wild Rice Soup.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 2:03 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 318

I have to pass my BPM night tickets on to my brother and my mom as something has come up. That sucks. Hope you guys have a great time

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 2:42 PM by moda253 Highlight this comment 319

Come on guys, we love outdoor baseball.

57 degrees at the first pitch and 52 degrees for the last out, can't be called a cold weather game. During the last year of dreaming of outdoor baseball, I was looking at 50's and 60's as warm weather baseball. We are Minnesotan's, cold weather doesn't start until it dips below 40.

Should be a nice crisp evening for baseball.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 2:45 PM by minn55441 Highlight this comment 320

"I just enjoy the sports talk radio type excitement when one new guy has a great day all of a sudden the rubes think the team should install that guy permanently and scrap whatever the original plan was."

Click for first case-in-point from the strib. Nice title.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 2:46 PM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 321

I'm pretty sure that the local fascination with new guys is called Gino Torretta Syndrome.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 3:02 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 322

Nice little article by Howard Sinker. Click my name if you care to read it.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 3:07 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 323

Yes, people do get too excited based on a player's performance over a short time frame, in this case one game. However, the Strib article is obviously meant to be taken as humor. I don't think it's just that people are excited about Ramos because of one game. I think they're excited because of his spring training stats and the fact that he is considered one of the better prospects in baseball. Tom Kelly is very high on his potential to be a very good major league player. I don't know how to get him to the majors to stay, but the Twins need to find a way by 2011. Don't trade him either.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 3:08 PM by Another Rick Highlight this comment 324

I didn't truly mean "cold", but cold for the games I have been to this year. Looking forward to wearing my dugout jacket for the first time.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 3:10 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 325

La Velle over at the Star Tribune asked some national writers to compare Target Field to the other ballparks in the Majors. Target Field consistently ranks around number 3 among the writers who were asked. Click my name for the article.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 3:11 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 326

I saw LaVelle's article yesterday.

It seems a little early to be ranking TF. Some of its charms (and issues) have yet to be discovered. Maybe at the All Star Break.

And any talk of rabid over-confidence in new players simply must include the name Eddie Bane.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 3:20 PM by Rick 327

Then again, some of us are old enough to remember Puckett's first game, Liriano's 2006 season and Giatti's homer. Moments you won't ever forget, hopefully I'll be able to say the same thing about Ramos in 5 years.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 3:46 PM by minn55441 Highlight this comment 328

Cold weather fans may get their chance Friday night: a chance of rain and snow with a low around 35.

I'm looking forward to attending the Wednesday getaway game and seeing how quickly the ball exits to straightaway center: west wind gusting as high as 32 mph.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 3:49 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 329

Ok, I was just on the twins website and they have the allstar balloting up. I mention this because the ballot is completely wrong in respect to our starting lineup this year. They have Gomez on there! WTF!?

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 4:02 PM by deenels Highlight this comment 330

What's going on before the game tomorrow night? Are there plans for the BPMers to link up for one or two before the game?

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 4:09 PM by lindywig Highlight this comment 331

Sounds like it could be a wild night at the ballpark tommorow night with some heavy T -storms possible! Lets hope it holds till at least 10pm! 78 for high? Uffda! So far have had 2 games with great weather! Sat 17th and Thursday the 22nd both sunny and warm up in my section! Anybody know where they sell the $3.75 dog? I looked last time and could not find it anywhere!

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 4:09 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 332

I'll be there for BPM night!

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 4:10 PM by DVS2008 (aka PatMeares) Highlight this comment 333

Anybody been to Smallys 87 yet? What kind of beer specials they have? Anyone? Hate to pop for a $7.00 beer there when Sneaky Petes has em for $2.00 a bottle!!

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 4:11 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 334

Smalley's has a great atmosphere in their little beer garden area, but they don't have any groundbreaking specials. Pitchers were like $13 on opening day for domestics. $4 pints I think. Maybe they have happy hour specials?

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 4:16 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 335

Schweady, my first night game this year and I will be out in left field homerun porch. Could see some ball fly out tommorow for sure if that wind is w SW coming through the plaza to boot!!!!

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 4:20 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 336

schweady - there won't be any rain/snow in minneapolis on friday or any day for that matter. maybe up in international falls (and i even doubt that) they could get a light mix, but certainly not in minneapolis. where do you get your horrible weather forecasts?!

people calling a game where the temp is in the mid-50's a cold weather game? seriously?! man, are some of your soft.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 8:22 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 337

and people behind home plate wearing blankets for a game in the 50's?? what a joke!

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 8:23 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 338

Beta: Where do I get my "horrible" weather forecasts? Oh, I dunno... some fly-by-night idiot outfit that goes by the name 'National Weather Service'... clicky.

and quit jumping on folks who point out interesting weather conditions and tatoo them as wimps or open air ballpark critics. and as for folks enjoying the game from under a blanket... they're out there, aren't they? Are you? I suppose you ice fish naked.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 8:51 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 339

ha! the nws in good old chanhassen....biggest group of weather terrorists in this town. let me guess there is a 5-10% chance of a light mix (probably well north of the actual twin cities) and knowing them they will tell all the weatherman bobos to run with it all week just to get rubes to watch the weather on the news.

and i will get on posters all i want when they are way off base. to your other point. i have been to several night games so far. i would be out there tonight if we had tickets. finally, you have a problem with ice fishing naked? actually, i think ice fishing is kind of lame, so no i have never ice fished naked.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 9:13 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 340

10-3 top of 8! That should be enough for Moonshot Scott! Congrats to Francisssssssssco the AL pitcher of the month! How bout Ramos 7 out of 9 so far! So far so good!!!! Will be in the homerun porch tommorow! First night game! Dave never make the right call Dahl is saying 70 with chance of storms! I say just bring it! L...O...L!!!!!

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 9:22 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 341

Fair enough, Beta. I'm headed to Wednesday's noon getaway game and my biggest fear has nothing to do with the weather... it's the 99.9% chance that Gardy will sit Ramos.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 9:24 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 342

I'm not sure what Thursday night will bring (that's my next game), but I'm so glad I won't be seeing THIS (click my name).

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 9:27 PM by luke Highlight this comment 343

Looking at the webcam it does not look like there are that many people there. Seems that there are a lot of open seats. Is this correct or am I missing something?

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 9:31 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 344

Actually Betaband wunderground is saying for this Friday a 30 percent chance of rain in the evening then chance of rain snow after midnight! Take cover!!!!!!

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 9:32 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 345

Sorry, stupid comment, game is almost over.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 9:34 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 346

Agree with that Luke. Was at a twins game the first year it opened! Even though they had it open it felt like it was closed! Looks like a big old top of a football! Any reports on how the hotdogs went tonight???

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 9:35 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 347

I'm 4-0 in the regular season so far. Another wheelchair row seat, this time in section 238 - looking straight down to the right-center field warning track. Lots of comments from people standing behind me - "These are great seats!"

I tried the Vincent burger. It was pretty good, but not what I expected.

Hope all you good folks going to the game tomorrow have a great time!

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 9:51 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 348

I second the request for a dollar dog report?

Lines? Taste? Bowl movements?

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 9:57 PM by st. paul Paul Highlight this comment 349

My bowls moved, but then again I had the soup.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 10:30 PM by Dinzdale Highlight this comment 350

Dollar dogs were plentiful, and they were smart to have them available at most stands. But that didn't change the fact that they tasted terrible.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 10:37 PM by Elston Gunn Highlight this comment 351

$1.00 dog question. Are they the smaller $3.75 dogs with skin on?

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 10:41 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 352

I got two of the dollar dogs before the game started. Only two people were in line in front of us, so the wait wasn't long at all. They were a different dog than any of the others I have tried so far. I was hungry, so they tasted just fine with a bunch of mustard. I overheard someone in our section complain around the 5th inning that they had run out of the dollar dogs.

My regular season record is now 5-1. It was worth the price of admission, just to see Wilson Ramos go 3-4.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 11:24 PM by minn55441 Highlight this comment 353

Hey everyone... I'm back from homosexual sensitivity training.

I was at the game tonight. Was surprised that the dollar dogs were still available into the fourth inning and later. They must have stocked up. As far as taste goes they were nothing to write home about, but a good deal for a buck. One thing that bothered me: I was at the Halsey's Sausage stand and disappointed with the choices: The Italian Sausage was a Market Pantry brand. I mean, seriously? You expect us to pay $5 for a generic-brand hot dog from Target?? Mmmm..wieners in my mouth.

Oh, and I think TwinkFan and Luke might be related. And when I picture mazaratirick, I think of Julian from "Trailer Park Boys." BEST CANADIAN TV COMEDY EVER, btw.

Posted on May 3, 2010 at 11:31 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 354

Hey guys I can't remember the name but there is a website that tracks all homeruns hit in MLB parks. Anyone know what it is? Debating with my buddy the distance of Cuddys 2nd deck shot tonight and calling it the very early leader for longest dinger in TF history.

Posted on May 4, 2010 at 02:10 AM by Eric Highlight this comment 355

Eric, hit my link. It's called hittrackeronline. Fun site, I have it bookmarked right below my baseball prospectus link.

I am such a baseball nerd... /laugh

Posted on May 4, 2010 at 08:22 AM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 356

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This appears to be the floor to the home dugout!



Also from the B ramp entrance off of Third, a look up at the tiny crack between ballpark and parking ramp



That warning sign doesn't mention anything about the potential for bludgeoning or limb removal by the revolving doors...






Looking back toward the ballpark from Third Avenue and Fifth Street. Again, the track configuration is now clearly visible.



Purple flowers above Second Avenue



A glimpse of the rather plain west facade (the side which faces the HERC plant).



Wright's Marin County Hall of Justice, San Rafael, California (1959)



A path for workers -- don't touch the plaza! -- in front of three giant Chia pets



The Overlook









Concept drawing for the fan/player appreciation wall. (Click to enlarge.)



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The Ballpark Authority at work (Source: RP)















Time to paint those supports Vikings-purple.



Thome steps in.



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Viewed from an A ramp elevator lobby.















No arches. No brick. No girders. Classic.









That's part of the wind veil, waiting in the B ramp for installation






Wayfinding within the B ramp is still a work in progress.






This would have been the HERC side, though it's unclear just how far over the plant the retracted roof would have gone. My fear was always that they would have to shorten the track and more of the roof would have stayed over the ballpark. The only good retractable roof is one which disappears when not in use. I don't think they could have realistically created such a thing.









August 2001 (a month later we were engaged)



Work going on under the steel.



Larry DiVito takes a last check of everything before the game starts



Section 117, Row WC (applies to all the back rows under the Legends Club seating)






This design has a rather generic quality to it, but they appear to have considered the B garage. Though it isn't part of the model, they've clearly left room for it.






The Fifth Street side is pretty busy. There's a small street entrance to the B ramp, then ticket booths and an entrance gate, a rare exterior section not covered in limestone, the wooden screen covering the circulation ramps, the administration building, and finally (just out of view) the interface with Northstar. All of that sits behind the LRT action. How pedestrians will interact with this side of the park is a great mystery to me. You know that Metro Transit won't be letting them cross the tracks anywhere but at either end of the block...



I still counted 11 flag poles...








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BRT - Bus Rapid Transit

DSP - Dave St. Peter

FSE - Full Season Equivalent

FYS - Fake Yankee Stadium (see also: NYS)

HERC - Hennepin Energy Resource Company (aka the Garbage Burner)

HPB - Home Plate Box

HRP - Home Run Porch

LC - Legends Club

LRT - Light Rail Transit

MBA - Minnesota Ballpark Authority (will own Target Field)

MOA - Mall of America

MSFC - Minnesota Sports Facilities Commission (owns the Metrodome)

NYS - New Yankee Stadium

SRO - Standing Room Only

STH - Season Ticket Holder

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