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Find Your Happy Place II

April 18, 2011 11:56 AM

So you spent the whole winter longing for spring, more specifically a spring filled with the return of your favorite pastime. "I'll take anything," you thought to yourself back in January, "just give me some damn baseball."

Well, how is that working out for you?

But if you think that you're not having much fun, imagine what it's like in the clubhouse.

Actually, come to think about it, they probably know better than to read too much into two weeks of baseball, especially when there's some sort of virus going around (which nobody would publicly blame even if it were the case).

Just for fun, I looked back at 2010 and found no less than six days when the Twins were 5-10 in their past 15 games. Anybody remember that big swoon last June? Nope, me either. How about the last two weeks before the All-Star break? OK, I do remember that one, but I had to dig in my memory past the 12-3 that they were in their last 15 games of July, and the baker's dozen other days later in the season when they were at or better than that record. (The peak was 13-2 on September 16.)

Dr. X went a step further, noting with an air of hope that, "in 1991, the Twins started off 4-10. During those first 14 games they had a seven game losing streak, and in only two of those first 14 games did they score more than four runs. They were shut-out three times."

A big difference worth noting is that expectations for the team have changed quite a bit in the past 20 years. Nobody was wringing their hands over a slow start for a team which had finished the previous season dead last in the league. (The Braves, by the way, emerging from a similar basement, went 7-7 to start the 1991 season.)

Nevertheless, numbers are numbers: World Series, here we come! (And the only NL team at 7-7 this year while the Twins were 4-10 was the Cubs. That will be a helluva WS!)

My point, as if it has to be made, is that teams slump, and only accumulations of slumps doom seasons. These early games may count, but they mean very little in the larger scheme of things. The 2011 Twins are far from doomed, as we saw yesterday (well, as you saw; I was watching Toronto at Boston, and only saw a handful of highlights on my phone -- see sidebar).

And before anybody accuses me of being a Kool-aid drinker (I know, you're already crafting your comment in your head), realize that, like you, I'm painfully aware of how thin the ranks are when the stars aren't performing (or even present). There are a lot of eggs in a relatively few baskets on this team. Jose Morales sure would have looked good on this roster, just for starters. Bill Smith, we need your best stuff now.

And speaking of sugary drinks, here's a little nugget from the back of a current Justin Morneau baseball card (one must always believe what one reads in such a context) which may be explanatory:

Could the departure of Nick Punto really be responsible for this whole mess? Perhaps the question we all need to be asking is, "Who's making Justin's Slurpee now? Whoever he is, can him!"

On a slightly more serious note, I do wonder just who is the current life-of-the-party in that clubhouse. And who is the spark plug? Punto's stats may not have been much to write home about, but he did get a lot of credit (both from inside and outside the organization) for instigating the Twins' style of play over the past few years.

(You will be forgiven for thinking that is the job of the manager and coaching staff.)

BPM Night

I'm late in getting to this, but I had a blast last Saturday night in Section T. It was great to meet so many of you, and my apologies to anybody that I missed.

It was a chilly night, but I never wished I had an extra layer.

As you can plainly see in the image, the french fry lights were on. At one point I hovered on the Captain Morgan deck, but the heat didn't really seem necessary. (Also, I was more than a little out of place among that crowd.)

These guys were there, but it wasn't any of you, right?

Gardy was honored before the game for his Manager of the Year win (hold your tongues, now), and Tom Kelly was there to celebrate with him. Later he caught a ceremonial first pitch from his wife.

It had threatened rain all day, but I only got a couple of drops on my scorecard during the late innings. And at one point, I even saw some sky almost peak through the overcast.

At one point, for technical reasons I'm told, all the ribbon boards in the ballpark went dark for about a minute. Kinda creepy. Makes you wonder how baseball fans knew when to clap and make noise before there were ribbon boards.

The Powerball winner was just a few seats away. People sure seem to love getting on the big scoreboard.


There was also a very big bug which landed near us in the aisle and was summarily squashed by the bottom of a beer bottle, amid screams -- literally -- from people nearby. I've never seen anything like it, but it was probably some sort of flying cockroach. It was, indeed, huge and very creepy-looking. Can anyone provide more entomological illumination?

The new tower added to the interesting reflections visible in the Metropolitan Club windows.

As ballpark amenities go, the tower has to be classified as a confection. But the clock at the top is handy, and the whole setup out there adds to the park's distinctive shape.

A revolutionary element? No way. Welcome? Absolutely. Distracting? Not in the least. Useful? Not really (except for the clock).

The video board is definitely useful, and an essential addition for folks in certain parts of the ballpark.

Sure would be nice to cover that metal grid with more wooden louvers, eh?

I should note that Twifi was again a no-show, but I hear that it's gotten better since then, albeit at a game which was not sold out.

Though the official explanation was "a 'weak link' in the technological chain," I have to wonder if they underestimated demand. I know that my device tried to stay connected even when I wasn't actively using it. If 30,000 people's devices did the same thing, that's roughly double the capacity they designed for. Just a thought.

Don't forget that the next scheduled BPM night will be August 23, and that we may have other opportunities before then. I'll let you know.

Some Doo-Dads

Former Twins DJ Kevin Dutcher got in touch with me about a program he produced for The Current:

It's called "A Decade of Twins Music Memories", it's an hour of anecdotes and music from my 11 seasons with the club. If you've followed the Twins for the past decade I think you'll enjoy it!

I didn't get a chance to listen live, but the show will ultimately be available for archive listening here.

I've read a lot in the comments about disdain for the new music, and I have to say that I didn't really notice it one way or the other. The exception would be that extremely annoying "clap your hands" bit. I noticed that one because everyone around me behaved like Pavlovian dogs when it came on, and it seemed to come around way too often.

The sound at TF remains a very big challenge. From the concourses you can't hear anything. Maybe that's by design, but I think it's a shame. No matter where I go in a ballpark, I should be able to hear the hitters announced. That's a cardinal rule.

I also have seen mention of this very weird silence before the Twins take the field. I am in agreement that this sort of sucks all the life out of the crowd at exactly the moment they should be pumped up.

In a different world, silence before a big crowd cheer would be welcome. But in a world where the pregame show has been (literally) blaring over the speakers for 45 minutes, silence at that point feels like somebody has missed their cue.

I'm sure there's an explanation (pregame show ends, team not ready to take the field maybe?), but it's a pretty awkward moment at pretty much every game.

And finally, props to the concession stand behind section T (between the escalators and the Townball Tavern). I had the single most delicious burger I can remember -- not just at the ballpark, but anywhere -- during the middle innings. Juicy, flavorful, the perfect temperature, on a very fresh and tasty bun, with fresh and tasty lettuce, tomato and cheese. With lots of perfect fries.

The food at TF (like any ballpark) is sort of hit and miss. This one was just perfect. I'll remember it as the perfect antidote to a slump.

As I left TF after BPM night, I realized that the sky had cleared when I saw this:

A banana-moon over a ballpark. Ahhhh, there's my happy place.

Ain't life grand?


More pictures are coming from opening day. And the online games (with prizes) will start as soon as my new system is fully functional later this week. I hope to have the first one up for the Cleveland series. Watch for it!

Also, be sure to check out TC Traders for tickets. Listings are coming and going pretty quickly, so you may have to be fast, but the deals have been pretty good.

Thanks for stopping by here today!

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The silence before the team takes the field wasn't there last year was it. I thought they played a Pink Floyd song or something.

Posted on April 18, 2011 at 12:17 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 1

Rick, you mention how expectations have changed for the Twins since 20 years ago. That's true, but I think the bigger change is how the internet lets fans interact with each other so much more. It just becomes one big echo chamber. I'm sure TK and TTH and Firedog and some of the other people here who so vocally kvetch about the Twins start this year did the exact same thing 20 years ago when the Twins sat at 4-10. The difference is that only their friends/family/significant others/check-out clerk at Target heard them. Today, anyone with an internet connection can hear them and it seems as if the fans are more riled up than ever. I don't think fans are any more riled up than years past, it's just there are so many more ways and means to express anger/joy with so many more people.

Posted on April 18, 2011 at 12:18 PM by Faber College Alum Highlight this comment 2

It's a good point, Faber. 20 years ago, this type of conversation happened mostly over beer and after hours.

In addition to amplifying everyone's opinion, now we can all do it from work.

Hey! Another way in which it's better than ever to be a Twins fan!

Posted on April 18, 2011 at 12:31 PM by Rick 3

Work? What are you talking about? Oh, wait - gotta go, my boss is heading to my desk...

;-)

Posted on April 18, 2011 at 12:48 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 4

yes the sound is awful in the concourse and I don't know why this would be by design. one of the joys of TF is milling about, standing against a rail with a beer at some point. From leftcenter last tuesday the pre-game announements and starting lineups were inaudible. for such an otherwise stellar ballpark atmosphere this is unfortunate.

Posted on April 18, 2011 at 2:01 PM by tim Highlight this comment 5

I think some of the more critical observers here would point out a (or the) difference between the current "slump" and others that are referenced: The Twins DESERVE to be in this one due to the way the team is constructed and managed.

Posted on April 18, 2011 at 2:20 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 6

I agree that the most useful part of the tower is the clock. There was a display of the time on one of the ribbon boards last year but it seemed like every time I would look up to check it, the board would switch to some other display.

Posted on April 18, 2011 at 3:17 PM by terry Highlight this comment 7

I'm not sure I buy that any team "deserves" to be on any sort of streak. Streaks are inherently short term things. The worst teams can have long winning streaks, and the best teams can have long losing streaks.

What a team "deserves" can only be measured by a season. At the end of 162 games, each team can fairly be said to have gotten the record it deserves.

It's one of the reasons that I still don't like the playoff structure. It dilutes that whole idea. Teams who got (and deserved) second place finishes can suddenly get something (a championship) that they don't deserve. (And by "second place" I mean anything other than the best record in the league. If getting the best record in the league over a 162-game season doesn't buy you anything, then what's the point in having leagues at all?)

To the point of whether this is well-built and/or well-managed team, the most I'm willing to say at the 15-game mark is that there are signs and portents of things to watch.

For example, I wondered above whether this team has a spark plug, and whether the depth chart is, in fact, deep enough. I'll add to those my perception that the starting shortstop appears significantly overmatched (and this is having an affect on general fielding), and that the manager, despite great skills in some key areas, has some liabilities which leave the team vulnerable to more aggressive opponents, especially late in games.

Offsetting those are a general sense that early dread of the pitching situation was misplaced. (Joe Nathan threw a rather picturesque 91 MPH breaking ball which cost him that second blown save and the closer's job. His confidence is down, to be sure, but I think that dumping him was an overreaction, and more for the fans than anything.)

That's about as far as I'm willing to go.

I'm reminded of the old saying about any major league team can beat any other major league team on any given night. It's only the accumulations over a long summer which determine what a team "deserves".

Posted on April 18, 2011 at 3:39 PM by Rick 8

Rick - up there, above your story about the bug, was a pic of the scoreboard. You also wrote "can anyone provide more illumination than that?"

I wasn't sure if you were talking about the bug, or the backlit ad panels on the scoreboard. Is it just me, or is the backlighting on those things AWFUL? It was certainly dark enough that the full illumination would have kicked in, and certainly, the light tower was not providing the light, as of course, the light tower is pointed to the field.

I thought to myself, that scoreboard is not even two years old, and the ad panels look like Mortenson just ripped them off the Target Center and moved them across the street. Guess it's time to invest in a Kauffman Stadium-esque scoreboard, ay?

Posted on April 18, 2011 at 4:20 PM by luke Highlight this comment 9

I was talking about the bug.

Posted on April 18, 2011 at 4:32 PM by Rick 10

The biggest question: Why oh why can't there be a thermometer somewhere in the park. The Tower, right below the clock, would be a perfect place for it. Better yet, pay for it with a heat and air company sponsorship.

Posted on April 18, 2011 at 5:11 PM by jctwins Highlight this comment 11

Does that stupid homerun song remind anyone else of the theme song to Spongebob Squarepants?

Posted on April 18, 2011 at 6:02 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 12

And no, I don't make a habit of watching Spongebob in my free time. It's just what happens when you spend time around little kids, e.g. your two-year-old niece.

Posted on April 18, 2011 at 6:39 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 13

Anybody ever see Thome get that angry over ball/strike calls?

Posted on April 18, 2011 at 8:25 PM by terry Highlight this comment 14

Anyone interested in a pair of tickets to Friday nights game? Originally gave to the folks, but they wimped out from the weather.

Diamond Box for $30 each. Cold weather discount!

(click the name for Craigslist email alias)

Posted on April 18, 2011 at 8:39 PM by eskerber Highlight this comment 15

Thome's reaction was warranted, but also part of that 'game-within-a-game' that I love. Here's the DH -- presumably done with his ABs for the night and so more than likely with nothing left to contribute in this one -- backing up his manager by adding on another (deserved) browbeating of tonight's HP umpire. God forbid he's tossed and we need his stick in the top of the 11th, but that appeared to be a chance he was willing to take. Gotta believe that Thome is presently as close as we come to having a clubhouse leader.

These nuances -- plentiful in this leisurely-paced sport -- are a part of what keeps me watching through thick and thin, not the occasional passing bandwagon.

Posted on April 18, 2011 at 9:49 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 16

Rick, was that bug about the size of a tennis ball (maybe slightly smaller)? Years ago (actually 1991-perhaps a good omen!) I was checking out some cars at night at a Bloomington car dealership after hours. There were these huge beatle type bugs crawling around the lot and dropping out of the sky. Never was able to tell if they had wings or not, but assume they did since they were falling from above. When they walked on the asphalt, they waddled from side to side and their shells scraped the ground as they waddled. Seemed likely they were related to a June bug-but much, much bigger. This whole episode was like something out of a horror movie. I didn't stick around long, and have never seen anything like it again. Wonder if what you saw could have possibly been the same species. I almost wish that I would have caught one so that I could have found out exactly what those things were. Still creeps me out to this day.

Posted on April 18, 2011 at 9:56 PM by Brian G Highlight this comment 17

Rick,

Google image earwigs and tell me if that is the bug you might have seen at the ballpark. I came had one in my section last year.

Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:36 PM by JinCR Highlight this comment 18

Also click my name for a link to a story done by Kare 11 last summer regarding earwig invation in Minnesota. This might be the bug you saw at the ballpark.

Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:52 PM by JinCR Highlight this comment 19

I am 99% sure your bug was a Giant Water Bug, in the family Belostomatidae. Those can fly, resemble a large roach, are in season (it's still early for most of the biggies), and are startlingly large. Unfortunate end, but there are worse places to be squished than Target Field.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:42 AM by Gone buggy Highlight this comment 20

Good call. I think that is exactly what I encountered at that car dealership. Googled the name and found they can be as large as 12cm long, which is probably about the size of the ones I saw. And the image search proved to look much like what I recall. Thanks "Gone buggy", I think you solved one of the mysteries of my life experience!!

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 08:03 AM by Brian G Highlight this comment 21

Sounds like you are describing the may flies. They can get so thick around the rivers that you need a snowplow to get them off the bridges. They last about 24 hours before they die!

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 08:37 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 22

I wish umpires would enforce the strike zone as it is defined in the rules. The umps have unilaterally changed it so that instead of being co-extensive with the plate, it now extends from the center of the plate to 8.5 inches outside. Examples being the pitches last night to Kubel and Thome that were called strikes and the pitch last October to Texeira that was called a ball. MLB can change the rule if it wants, but however the rule reads, the umps should be required to follow it.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 09:01 AM by terry Highlight this comment 23

Bug mystery solved! More to come.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 09:57 AM by Rick 24

terry,

When I was a kid, the strike zone was, "You should have swung at that."

Sometimes I think we're seeing a move toward that from MLB umps.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 10:00 AM by Rick 25

I always wondered if baseball wasn't trying to increase scoring after the dominance of pitching in the 1960s. I recall the strike zone was over the plate, and between the knees and the letters. Now it seems like that's been reduced to the knees to the waist. But I've also been seeing a lot of stuff that seems outside or inside being called a strike now as well. It seems like anything between the batter's boxes is called a strike these days, so I'm pretty confused about what constitutes a strike in the umpire's view.

Outfield cameras were always to one side of the mound, so we always had a skewered view of the pitch arriving at the plate, and I wondered if the ump, with 3-d vision, had a better view of where that baall was when it crossed the verticaal plane above the front of the plate. But with the camera at the Metrodome, and now Target Field as well, lined up dead center with the mound and plate, I'm seeing just about anything being called a strike.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 10:17 AM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 26

Sorry. Bad memory. The pitch I was referring to last October was to Lance Berkman.

Watch a DVD of one of the old televised games, e.g. Larsen's perfect game from '56 or the Mazeroski game from '60. You will really see a difference in how the strike zone was interpreted.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 10:31 AM by terry Highlight this comment 27

Where are all the usual suspects posting doom and gloom now that the Twins have won two in a row?

Just taking a friendly swipe at some of you. There is actually much to be anxious about with our beloved Twins. Part of the beauty of baseball is that it does suck you in, and even though you know it's 162 games, you live and die through all the ups and downs of the season. I was discussing this with someone at work. We agreed that it's almost as much fun whining and complaining when things are going badly as it is fun when things are going well. Almost.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 11:26 AM by Another Rick Highlight this comment 28

I, too, was a bit baffled by last night's late-innings strike calls. I think the ump's strike zone was a trapezoid. ... You have to remember though that the zone isn't two dimensional. Where a pitch starts and ends with regard to the zone can be very different. If you can hit the zone during any part of that final movement of the ball, you've got yourself a strike.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 11:30 AM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 29

Another Rick: I've yet to see a quality win with a lineup full of our starters. (Did you know that you, me and Cuddy are tied in RBIs this season??) Because Drew Butera "goes off" on the worst team in the A.L. East, I'm not about to say the Twins are anywhere near turning a corner. It is nice, however, to see the "B" squad actually show some heart out there.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 11:33 AM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 30

They have only played a few games at Target Field and they are already replacing some sod in right field

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:19 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 31

That sod square was visible on Opening Day. I'm surprised it was never grown in better than that considering it was place mid last year.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:23 PM by jctwins Highlight this comment 32


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Posted on April 19, 2011 at 1:05 PM by Pics Highlight this comment 36

My iPod touch photos from this morning (above) are out of sequence. Should be: post 36, 35, 33, 34. They cut the tarp to fit the infield, and then removed the baseline tarp.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 1:12 PM by Buzz Highlight this comment 37

I remember Larry DeVito mentioning that RF was the worst spot in the field because the sun has a hard time reaching that area. I've noticed it too at different times of the day.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 1:13 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 38

I'm in the middle of giving MCA's to my class.(standardized tests for the uninitiated) I needed Ballpark Magic today!

My 8th grade baseball team (if we EVER play again outside - honest to God, worst spring EVER for spring sports)had an ump the other day whose strike zone was from the shoulders to the ankles. The scores of the two games were 3-2 and 2-0, so I didt't mind it; much better than our usual scores like 14-11. It was a CONSISTENT strike zone though, so my hitters knew they had to be swinging. That's all you can ask for from the home plate ump. I thought the ump last night was wildly inconsistent, which is when they run into issues.

Good thing the Twins are on the road, I can omagine all the rubes from here and around the country talking about the "snow outs." in Minneapolis. (we have grass covered here in SE Minnesota)

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM by ole Highlight this comment 39

didn't and imagine on my writing above. Sorry about the typo's. I'm a teacher, so I should be checking my work before I hand it in!

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 1:44 PM by ole Highlight this comment 40

Ole thats how big it should be for those kids! Go up there hacking! Not looking for a walk! Good job by that ump!!

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 2:01 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 41

Totally agreed TwinkFan. I will never complain about a big strike zone. 8th grade up to Majors.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 2:06 PM by ole Highlight this comment 42

Another Rick,

I have been one of the negative Kool-Aid drinkers lately and I have been away on business and have been unable to post (cell phone doesn't allow for me to click the comment box to easily).

The Twins are on a nice little streak as of late (Woohoo, last team to win back-to-back games). I also heard on the radio that they are one of the hottest teams since last year going 40-31 in their last 71 games.

Regardless, until they continue to show heart, quality pitching, and a commitment to play a full game, i will continue to be negative. If they are playing good ball and happen to lose, that is fine.

I have not left the bandwagon and I will continue to stay on, however, it is okay to share frustrations, even if the Kool-Aid hangovers are no fun...

I

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 3:11 PM by tk Highlight this comment 43

Actually, the Astros still haven't won two in a row, so the Twins are second to last. Woohoo?

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 3:17 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 44

Thanks for the correction AJ, I just was looking at the AL :)

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 3:22 PM by tk Highlight this comment 45

Looks like it will be chilly night at the yard this friday with showers and only a high of 47. Weekend looks good!

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 3:45 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 46

Just a few comments on the MLB At Bat 2011 sidebar. You're basically correct about it being a C+*. I give it the * with the following: if you live in the blackout area of your team of interest. I have it on my iPad3G and have had it on an iPod Touch in the past years. I live in Boston, and it is an amazing way to follow the Twins. I also have the mlb.tv package, so I can watch pretty much any game they play, unless it's on Fox, ESPN Sunday Night, or if they're paying Boston. The video quality is excellent, nearly HD when on WiFi. I have had quite good luck over 3G watching games as well. If you are in an area that has good 3G signal and capacity, the video quality is quite good. I've often fired up the iPad when the wheels touch down after a flight and get the game going. A lot of people have remarked how good the picture looks, and that's on 3G.

If you don't have the mlb.tv package and live within the blackout area, it's probably not that great. But for twins fans scattered around the nation (not just red sox nation!), it's a viable alternative to extra innings. I also use my mlb.tv account with my ROKU box and get to watch the games on my TV, 720P.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 1:58 PM by jb Highlight this comment 47

Luke Hughes at first tonight w/ morneau and young out with the flu, first to 3 wins!!

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 5:35 PM by jp Highlight this comment 48

Trevor Plouffe at second, Dinkleman in center.

just kidding.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 5:58 PM by mj Highlight this comment 49

I've had the exact same arrangement as jb there for quite some time - the MLB AtBat app with mlb.tv subscription, and I've lived in Chicago for the past 10 years. Everything he says is right on. The key is definitely whether you live in/out of market, as I can imagine that for an in market fan - all of you at home - it would be a pretty miserable option. But if you are out of market, it's great! Since the '03 season, I've had some form of the mlb.tv subscription or another, and it has improved by leaps and bounds every year. I had the "extra innings" cable package ONE year, simply so that I could watch it on my actual tv instead of on my computer, but with the Roku, I don't even have to do that anymore. Beginning about two years ago, in conjunction with the AtBat app, watching games on your mobile device, even on a 3G connection is not only possible, but it's even practical. And if you're on wifi, it's pretty damn nice. And now with the iPad it's nearly amazing. Sitting outside on your back porch with a 1.5 lb, 11" screen in your lap playing the Twins in HD is fantastic.
It goes without saying that if MLB wised-up and offered the computer packages to all in-market fans (like the Yankees did), that every team's fan base would grow. Right now they're employing the failed-NFL/Bill Wirtz (dead Blackhawks owner - look it up) strategy, which goes something like: restricting media access to your product based on selling out games will drive up demand. We now know that (and probably always did know that) to be entirely false. Truth: make media access to your product as EASY as possible and demand and popularity will inevitably follow. Look at the NFL. Look at the Blackhawks. Four years ago they were a failed franchise, barely filling half the seats in the United Center. Last year they won the Stanley Cup and sold out every home game. It's time MLB woke up and smelled the successful media strategy.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 6:08 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 50

GAME OVER!

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 6:42 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 51

theloniousjoe, you are right on. This "blackout" of the local markets with MLB TV should be lifted to allow more fans access to the games. I'd buy it in a heartbeat if I could watch the local nine. I'm tempted to adopt and out of market team as my own and subscribe and follow them. If the Twins keep up the stink-o-rama this season, it might be easier to convince me to do this.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 6:51 PM by Brian G Highlight this comment 52

Another great inning followed by 2 quick outs and the wheels fall off.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 7:12 PM by tk Highlight this comment 53

This team is about as exciting to watch as watching paint dry. Punchless offense, poor fielding, erratic pitching. We are 17 games into the season and we have 5 HR's are you kidding me....5 thats one big game for some teams. Its a miracle they are 6-11. The middle infield should be in single A, the bullpen is a bunch of castoffs and the starters are a bunch of 3's and 4's andwe still have a top ten payroll. Somebody should be out of a job putting this team together!

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 7:46 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 54

Joe Mauer $23M
Justin Morneau $15M
Joe Nathan $11.25M
Michael Cuddyer $10.5M

Total: $59.75M

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:20 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 55

Over the last few years my wife and I have started a tradition of going on Twins roadtrips.

I have not done much searching, but is there any information out there on where teams normally stay while on the road? Not that we want to stalk the players, but it would be interesting to know if we should keep our eye out while in the hotel bar, etc.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 8:38 PM by tk Highlight this comment 56

Speaking of MLB.tv blackouts, read how ridiculous the blackout rules are for the Knuckleballs blogger in Cedar Rapids, IA.

Click link.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:00 PM by FD Highlight this comment 57

Need to end a losing streak? Order the Twins with a side of cheese...

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:03 PM by tk Highlight this comment 58

When will Minnesota sports teams stop sucking? WHEN?

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:09 PM by luke Highlight this comment 59

Glad I'm not Nathan's dog tonight.

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:10 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 60

tk: See if you can find a Twins Media Guide. I think it has that info, or used to. Usually, it's a place well out of my price range, hotel bar included. :)

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:15 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 61

tk - I do know for a fact that the Twins stay in Milwaukee at the Pfister hotel. Ran into Baby Jesus there last year getting out of the elevator. Saw Dick Bremer at the hotel bar.

So, are the Twins still in a "slump" as some of you suggest?

Posted on April 19, 2011 at 10:53 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 62

TTH,

This is not a "slump" it is a team with injuries and illness. Obviously some sort of flu bug is going around the clubhouse. Nishioka gettin hurt affected the team more than anyone thought, no #2 hitter, and no consistent 2nd baseman. You know how bad the lineup is when we have had Cuddy at 2B and hitting 2nd. Nathan is coming back from Tommy John surgery, should be no surprise that he is struggling, just wish Gardy would have kept him in a rehab type mode instead of throwing him back in the fold so fast.

So not a slump, but a team struggling with injuries and such. Every team goes through this, you just never like to start this way, makes for an up hill climb. No worries as of yet, pitching needs to get better and has shown some flashes, bats need to heat up once the lineup gets pulled back together, and defense continues to improve.

Not saying World Series here we come, but we should be in contention at the end of the year for the playoffs and that's all we can ask for. Think the Pirates or Royals wouldn't want to do it "The Twins Way" and be in contention every year?

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:03 AM by Josh Highlight this comment 63

Sold!

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:07 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 64

AL Central: First to 78 wins!

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 06:54 AM by eskerber Highlight this comment 65

If the Twins are at or within 4-5 games of .500 on July 4th, they will be in the race. Hopefully, they will be healthier and then get on a roll. We've seen it before. Doesn't mean it's not frustrating and hard to watch now, though, does it?

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 07:22 AM by ole Highlight this comment 66

Aren't injuries/illness contributors to a slump?

Every team battles injuries/illness throughout the season.

When the top guy goes down with injury/illness, than its the job of the front office and manager to build a team with solid depth.

The Twins have no depth whatsoever (i.e. Sunday's lineup)

We are three weeks into the regular season and its safe to say it's becoming a trend.

Will they play better at times this season? I sure hope so and I think they will. But at this point, what we see is what we get.

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 07:38 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 67

I've never been a big Nick Punto fan, but Alexi Casilla is starting to make me miss him. He can't field, throw or hit, none. With Punto you atleast knew he was going to make the routine plays and 95% of the difficult ones. He wasn't worth the 8 million he was owed for this year, and we now know about the injury.

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 08:21 AM by PNB19 Highlight this comment 68

TK you won't find them at Motel 6 or Super 8. Course they way they are playing might not be a bad idea! I hear the Pfister is haunted!

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 08:29 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 69

I would take Nicky Punto for $750,000 in heartbeat over Sexy Lexy anyday of the week. Kid is a train wreck man!

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 08:32 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 70

Josh you make me laugh. Everyone said at the beginning of they year what depth the Twins have. Injuries have nothing to do with Cuddyer not having one RBI. Injuries have nothing to do with Delmon Young not having one home run. Injuries have nothing to do why Alexi Casilla is the Starting SS. Injuries have nothing to do with us having no real ace pitcher. Injuires to Mauer who has a history should be nothing new. He's only a singles hitter anyway. Not like he's gonna win games.

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 08:59 AM by Todd Highlight this comment 71

I've heard nothing yet in regards to firing Joe Vavra. Anyone feel that is the easiest thing to do to shake up the bats right now??

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 09:21 AM by Steeks Highlight this comment 72

I think getting rid of Vavra is still a bit premature. Mauer, Morneau, Cuddyer and Young all missed time in Spring Training with various injuries and most are now battling something else. If the team gets healthy and is still slumping it might be worth discussing.

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 09:28 AM by PNB19 Highlight this comment 73

Looking at the schedule and wondering if the Twins will get rid of most of the business mans special mid week day games. I see many clubs when we are on the road not doing the same. I would think a night game mid week would draw more fans and also have better tv ratings. Twins have 11 of these dates and road teams only 7!Is this a wink wink type deal to help other teams get out of town earlier? I see its only mostly done with teams in our division.

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 09:54 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 74

Also amazing that only 16 of the first 47 games played are at home this year!

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:18 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 75

Interesting stat of the day in the Star Trib sidebar:

White Sox have scored 29 runs in their last 10 games. Guess the Twins bats aren't the only cold ones in the AL Central.

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:28 AM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 76

Performance isn't the reason to can Vavra, it's the mentality he is coaching. The Twins hitters are far too patient at the plate waiting for the "perfect" pitch. Well any decent pitcher is not going to give it to them. They need to get up there and be aggressive. Will strike-outs increase yes, but so should hits. If a pitcher makes a mistake make him pay for it. Let's stop making crappy pitchers look amazing, which is what they are doing now.

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:46 AM by Duffman Highlight this comment 77

yea that's interesting, the home scheduled is very back loaded this season. was it last year also? baseball has a way of evening out. are the twins and sox going to be this bad all season? i doubt it just as i doubt cleveland will continue to play at this clip over six months. i do wish certain hitters would stop using TF as an excuse for their awful power numbers. maybe they're facing reality they are playing for new contracts next season and at this rate they won't be able to command a ton of new money on the free agent market.

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:59 AM by tim Highlight this comment 78

Todd,

Thanks for the jab, glad I could make you laugh.

I thought the Twins had ok depth, but not when a majority of our stars are battling injuries and illness. You can plug a hole here and there, but not when your top guys are battling.

Your points about Cuddyer and Young, in my opinion have everything to do with illness and injury. When your lineup shuffles day after day, because of said injuries and illness, how can they get any production or pitches to hit? Anyone that follow baseball knows that when you are healthy, and have guys playing where they should play, and getting on base ahead of you, you get better pitches to hit and more opportunities.

I can agree a little on Casilla, he needs to take his starting role serioulsy, and I can agree with your take on our pitching staff.

And for Mauer, according to you a singles hitter. Let compare him to Brian McCann, who some refer to as another top level catcher.

Mauer McCann
Games 845 771
Runs 509 332
Hits 1019 773
2B 202 181
3B 16 2
HR 81 114
RBI 476 476
SB 35 18
BB 436 282
SO 355 411
BA .326 .290
OBP .406 .361
SLG .479 .489
TB 1496 1300
All Star 4 5
Silver Slugger 4 4
MVP 1 0
(not to mention Mauer finished 6th in '06, 4th in '08, and 8th in '10)

And is the 1st AL Catcher to win a Batting Title, and did it Twice.

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 11:22 AM by Josh Highlight this comment 79

The layout wasnt what I was looking for, but you can clearly see Mauer is much more than a Singles hitter.

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 11:23 AM by Josh Highlight this comment 80

Twins dead last in runs scored at 50. White sox have scored 81 runs so far. Twins 27th in hitting! Dead last in HR's 5! Yankees have 29. Twins 23rd in era 4.71 and 24th in BB.

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 11:24 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 81

Josh,

Joe has actually won 3 batting titles 2006,2008,2009

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:39 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 82

Thanks Firedog, obviously overlooked that.

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:45 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 83

This is a fun site to compare players and pull graphs of stats.

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:52 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 84

80% Chance of rain and high of only 49 friday! Could be a cold wet night at the yard friday anyways!

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 2:59 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 85

Great lineup tonight....

My guess is that Blackburn pitches a gem, but Twins lose 3-1

Span 8
Repko 7
Kubel 9
Cuddyer 3
Thome DH
Valencia 5
Hughes 4
Holm 2
Tolbert 6
Blackburn SP

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 3:08 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 86

^^^Can't even call that a "B" line-up either! It's who we got!

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 4:07 PM by TK Highlight this comment 87

And the gem of that lineup is the part that wasn't included. Kubel playing 1st base.

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 4:10 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 88

Nevermind, just read the update. The lineup's on the white board were wrong (well the position). Cuddyer is playing first. Picture of the wrong lineup position if you click my name.

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 4:16 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 89

TwinkFan, I've got four tickets for Friday night's game.

I'm hoping it gets postponed and made up either Saturday or Easter Sunday - the weather is supposed to get nicer through the weekend.

Otherwise, I'm wearing my winter coat to the game, along with a stocking cap and gloves. Thank goodness the seats are under the club level overhang, so we won't get rained on.

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 4:19 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 90

You know, we survived all last season without a true cancellation due to rain. The one time the Twins front office brass chickened out was May 7 against the Orioles because of the "possibility" of snow. By 5pm that night, there was not an ounce of the white shit on the ground anywhere, they could have played that night, but they chickened out.

And, I remember there was one game that was partially over (vs. the Yanks??) and continued the next day. I'll give them that one.

If the Twins could find some way to appeal to MLB to have ALL 162 games at TF, Minnesota would have some damn fine weather to speak of, wouldn't you say?

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 5:40 PM by luke Highlight this comment 91

Sometimes you remind me of the guy on the right.

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 6:15 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 92

TTH - that's about damn near the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me. Being that Tommy Boy is one of my favorite movies, I'll even give you that one.

BTW TTH, just to help you out, "the guy on the right" (assuming you meant to the right of Chris Farley), would be David Spade - one hell of a great actor.

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:27 PM by luke Highlight this comment 93

2nd worst start since the team moved to MN. But hey, everything's gonna be fine cuz we do it the TWINS WAY!! WOO HOO!!!!!

*gulps down grape kool aid*

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:26 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 94

Something’s different this year and it’s getting pretty obvious that the Twins’ troubles go back to the decision to cut down the trees in center field.

I remember having a bad feeling about it at the time – Target Field’s inaugural season was so nearly perfect that I had the feeling that they just shouldn’t mess with success. But the removal of the trees was just such a desecration.

Does anybody else feel like this is a Billy Goat-type event? An event like the curse that has kept the Cubs from winning the World Series since 1908?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_the_Billy_Goat

I’m not sure the Twins will even have a winning season again as long as those trees are absent from center.

Posted on April 20, 2011 at 8:11 PM by SonOfBillyGoat (aka ClarkAddison) Highlight this comment 95

Clark Addison - it reminds me more of when Peter Griffin dug up the American Indian skull and named it Chief Diamond Phillips. Which reminds me of Carrot Top. Which reminds me of flash-in-the-pan types. Which reminds me of Joe, Justin, the other Joe, Michael, Matt, Jason, Carl, Francisco, Gardy, Wally the Beerman, Kirby the Kestrel and over-the-air Twins baseball.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 12:17 AM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 96

Kool-Aid shortage...

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 12:42 AM by tk Highlight this comment 97

Can we leave the Kestrel out of the equation?

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 12:48 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 98

What DSP hasn't told us is that the Kestrel's nest was destroyed when they took the trees out...no more squirrel to attack Harris and no more Kirby to catch moths.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 12:53 AM by tk Highlight this comment 99

addison - thank you. Good synopsis.
Furthermore, the troubles started when TF wanted to join the ranks of the football-stadium elite and put up a second video board, which is damn near unnecessary; and a cool-looking but useless (kinda like our bullpen) "LED tower."

Hitters last year bitched and moaned about pine trees, 411 feet from home plate causing distractions and shadows and a batter's eye that had a little too much "puke green" color.

They were trees, knotheads! KC has a waterfall, Arizona has the footing for a warehouse, Tampa has weepy retirees wanting to save their damn team standing out in center field - aren't those distractions too? No one complains about them.

Put the trees back, take the damn video board down, and let's play some REAL TF ball! If sedentary trees were causing a distraction to batters, I can only imagine what a bright video board is doing to left-handed hitters line of sight.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 07:03 AM by luke Highlight this comment 100

I think it's because Jerry White put the 2010 Division Champs flag upside down. Putting a flag upside down can never be good...

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 07:44 AM by AJ Highlight this comment 101

First Target Field postponement of 2011 tomorrow night?

What's the weather looking like Jared? I know it will be cold, but will it be wet come 7pm or is the rain predicted to fall earlier in the day? It's not a matter of if, but when. I don't mind the cool temps in the 40's but the steady rain forecasted is another story.

I have tickets for tomorrow night and am hoping it will be postponed to Saturday night, but I doubt that. Will wait and see...

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 07:46 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 102

As if to add insult to injury, I read this morning that Zach Britton was ... get this ... sick last night.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 07:47 AM by terry Highlight this comment 103

Speaking of Jerry White, he was wearing the white home top the other day during the last homestand when the rest of the team was wearing "Twins" blue alternates.

Alex Burnett was also wearing a blue "Minnesota" alternate when the rest of the team was wearing blue "Twins" alternates....there must be some sort of curse or jinx this year...

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 07:49 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 104

the efforts by these homer announcers to find positives is humorous. nick blackburn just had one teensy weensy bad inning. but he was great after that! yay, everyone gets a trophy. i wonder what the FSN ratings are like for this product. it's unwatchable save for baseball geeks like me.

and if delmon young has the flu what he is doing sitting in the dugout. go back to the hotel so the rest of the team doesn't get sick. he's of no use sitting there in his uniform if the manager has already stated he will out the next two games.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 08:02 AM by tim Highlight this comment 105

Half-game ahead of the Mariners and Mets for the worst record in the majors. Yippee.

/fingers crossed/ for a rainout tomorrow night, with the makeup game Sunday afternoon!

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 08:31 AM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 106

To be fair Tim, you are talking about the same game announcers that get every Aflac Trivia question "Right" because they somehow tie Joe Nathans third cousins friend's sisters mom, who just so happens to have dated Bert at one time and new Dick Bremer in college, to the correct players team's mascots offspring. Which obviously makes the answer they said right, albeit completely wrong. If they do that, it's a wonder what else they do that we don't totally realize until it smacks us in the face through our Twins goggles.

For the forecast, as it stands right now, the majority of the rainfall looks to be falling before the game during the afternoon hours. There will likely be off and on/scattered rain showers through the game and outside of any localized downpours, the amounts should be light but also enough to scatter the cockroaches in the exposed seating areas. With game time temps in the mid 40s and a breeze swirling through the ballpark that will combine to make for a chilly night at the ballpark.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 09:06 AM by Jared Highlight this comment 107

Is there a consensus date/time that a rain out would be made up (assuming Saturday/Sunday aren't bad weather)?

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 09:27 AM by eskerber Highlight this comment 108

Hi all,

Well, after talking about it for years, my wife and I finally booked a hotel room in KC for two nights for the twins series next weekend, any suggestions on where to sit in KC? Other things to do during the day on Saturday and any good BBQ places?

Thanks in advance, love the site!

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 09:44 AM by Thrillhouse Highlight this comment 109

BBtT

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 09:52 AM by msp Highlight this comment 110

ThrillHouse -

I've made the trip to KC a couple times. If you like history and baseball combined, the Negro League Baseball Musuem is a must. My wife and I spent quite a bit of time there. I went to Arthur Bryant's for BBQ; I liked it but many people like Gates too - it's quite the debate. You'll love the field, it's one of the most under-rated I think. I went there before they added the OF seats though. Have fun! Cheer hard!

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 10:04 AM by ole Highlight this comment 111

Ok, anyone else concerned seeing Thome swing through an 87 mph fastball last night? I'm thinking age is finally starting to really catch up to him. His bat just seems achingly slow to me.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 10:12 AM by Faber College Alum Highlight this comment 112

Truth,

Look! It's a See-Saw!

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 10:17 AM by N.D. (aka N.D. "Rube") Highlight this comment 113

You pretty much can't go wrong with BBQ in Kansas City. Do you know they have laws as to what can and cannot be called "BBQ"? They take it pretty seriously down there!

Gates, Arthur Bryant, Smokestack (my personal favorite) - they're all great.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 10:30 AM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 114

Ole,

thanks, yes, i have heard both gates and Arthur bryants already. Maybe we will hit one on Saturday and one on Sunday on the way out.

Plenty of seats on the website yet, thinking maybe i should just use a scalper and see what they have since i really dont care where we sit.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 10:32 AM by Thrillhouse Highlight this comment 115

Question on the Blue Bunny Kids Days
"Purchase a single game ticket in any seating section and receive a coupon for a buy-one-get-one-free Blue Bunny 5.5 oz Personals®. Kids 14 and younger can receive free autographs from a Twins player before the game and run the bases after the game."

So I bought three tickets to the game and I'm not so concerned about the ice cream, but I'm taking two kids (one for his birthday and his first game ever at Target Field (only his second game ever)). I've done the run around the bases so I know how that works, but does anyone have an idea about meeting the Twins player? Like When/Where it happens, can they get an autograph? That sort of thing.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 10:49 AM by Schda Highlight this comment 116

Since this would be the first game of 9 against Twins/Indians at TF, my guess would be the game would be played on their next visit or 2.

Especially if it is the Twins call, as they would want to be more healthy. It also being a holiday weekend though and people in town, so they may try a night game Sunday, as both clubs are off Monday.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 10:56 AM by tk Highlight this comment 117

MSP, BBtT indeed! Click on my name below.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 11:08 AM by ClarkAddison Highlight this comment 118

Josh,

You put yourself in a box for comparing Brian McCann to Joe Mauer. Brian McCann is making 6.7 mill and Mauer 23 mill. Brian McCann has more homers by far with 100 fewer games played. He's got a higher slugging percentage than Mauer. Bottom line.. Twins made a terrible decision to overpay for Mauer a singles hitter who only plays part time.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 11:57 AM by Todd Highlight this comment 119

Thrillhouse - I have to second the Negro League museum. Well worth the time. Haven't tried Gates but Arthur Bryant's for lunch just blocks away from the museum is a good spot. Fiorella's Jack Stack is also good BBQ.

If you go to the museum, ask for directions to the site of the old ballpark as well, just a few blocks away. It has been replaced by housing now but is marked with a sign and photo where it once stood.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 12:06 PM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 120

I heartily endorse Arthur Bryant's as well (don't let the neighborhood throw you) - and agree that the museum is a must (too bad that you are no longer to encounter Buck O'Neil there). Downtown is a wasteland.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 1:14 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 121

--- longer likely to ---

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 1:15 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 122

I am heading to KC this summer on my annual trip.

I would second/third or fourth going to Arthur Bryant's. I am a vinegar based BBQ fan and I believe Gates is a Tomato based sauce.

I have been to the Negro Baseball League Museum and the American Jazz Museum next door.

[link=
http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/KCMunicipal.htm]Kansas City Municipal Stadium Information[/link]

Kansas City Municipal Stadium Map

For night life, I always enjoy the Power and Lights District

Power and Lights District

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 1:40 PM by tk Highlight this comment 123

Great time to buy low on a game that most likely will be played mid-July! Weather shows 80(!)% chance of rain in the 5-8pm hours.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 1:44 PM by eskerber Highlight this comment 124

^^^I am going to wait until closer to game time when it is announced on when the make-up game will be and hopefully scalpers are not paying attention and drop the prices :)

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 1:49 PM by tk Highlight this comment 125

I have attached a google map of where Municipal Stadium was located. You can drag the street view icon (yellow pedestrian) to the corner of E 22nd Street and Brooklyn Ave to see the sign that Stevie B had mentioned.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 1:51 PM by tk Highlight this comment 126

Thrillhouse-
If you like War Museums I strongly, strongly recommend checking out the one in KC if you have time. It's a WWI museum and it's an amazing place. I spent about 5-6 hours in there when I went down. Link to their website by clicking my name.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 3:30 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 127

Me thinks if rained out tommorow wont be made up till monday Sept 18th. Not in July as Twins do not have an off day Thursday July 21st like Cleveland does. Both teams are off Sept 18th!

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 4:05 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 128

ClarkAddison,

Glad someone got the reference. Bring Back the Trees -- BBtT.

I like the shirts!

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 4:10 PM by msp Highlight this comment 129

originally posted by Luke
Furthermore, the troubles started when TF wanted to join the ranks of the football-stadium elite and put up a second video board, which is damn near unnecessary

Regarding the argument that the second video board is unnecessary, fans in the left field stands would argue that point. Putting it in had nothing to do with being "cool" like an NFL stadium. It was about giving better service to the fans who had little to no view of the main video board due to the team's decision to place it atop the left field stands instead of placing it in right field in the first place due to concerns about spoiling the view.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 5:25 PM by Jorge Highlight this comment 130

That wasn't the ONLY reason the main scoreboard wasn't put up in right field.... politics was involved.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 5:32 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 131

don't write off the kestral quite yet...

at the first game against KC this year, I saw a small raptor soaring high above the stadium behind home plate.

He did not land on the foul pole... but I don't think he was doing that last year in April either. There's no moths for him to catch in this time of the year!

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 5:41 PM by mj Highlight this comment 132

I like the new scoreboard screen in right field, having sat in a few spots last year where I couldn't see the big board.

Still undecided about the 'tower', though. I kinda wish the vertical resolution was better, it just seems coarse compared to the other boards.

Nice swing by Thome for #591.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 6:26 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 133

Todd,

I am not trying to argue anything, but the fact remains that a couple years ago we were all clamoring that the Twins needed to sign Mauer, and if they didn't it would be another star leaving and another cheap move by the owners to save money. After the year he had, the numbers he put up, being the face of the team, and a new stadium on the horizon, they were some what forced to do what they did.

Back to putting me in a Box:
Mauer dominates McCann in terms of OBP (.407 to .360) and OPS (the best single stat for judging offense) (.888 to .849). McCann does hit for a little more power as indicated by the slight difference in SLG (.481 to .489). McCann strikes out at a much higher rate (avg per 162 = 86) compared to Mauer (68).

This doesn't even get into the difference in defensive ability where Mauer has a much higher caught stealing rate (36% to 24%) and Fld % (.996 to .988) McCann is a good player, but Mauer is better.

For contracts sake no need to mention McCann's deal was signed 3 years ago when he had two years of service time and the team was essentially buying out his arbitration years. Unless he gets hurt you can bet he will be "overpaid" when he becomes a FA.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 7:04 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 134

But now that I think of it, we would have better of with a barely .200 hitter in Butera, and having Mauer crush us as a Yankee or Red Sox. And not to mention a fan base irate at the thought of a new stadium without the face of the franchise in the lineup.

Baseball is not all about HR and SLG%. The guy is a pure hitter, along the lines of Tony Gwynn and Wade Boggs.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 7:07 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 135

Butera, barely a .200 hitter?

He wishes!

he's hitting .167 for the season, and .193 for his MLB career.

and if I remember correctly, his career avg. in the minors was .217.

the Twins should let their pitchers hit, and DH for Butera!

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 7:22 PM by mj Highlight this comment 136

Is Repko legally blind?

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 7:25 PM by Jim Highlight this comment 137

something is wrong with my TV... It showed Casilla getting a hit, and that couldn't have happened.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 7:35 PM by mj Highlight this comment 138

Danny Valencia's at bat in the 6th inning of tonight's game is indicative of how this entire season has gone. The Twins string together a couple of hits and have guys on 1st and 3rd with 1 out. They have scored 1 run in the inning. Valencia is batting with a 2-0 count (a hitter's count) and he swings at a bad pitch and pops out.

The next batter, Luke Hughes, flies out to the warning track (of course). Instead of putting up a "crooked number" as Bert likes to say, the Twins only score 1 and hold a 2-0 lead. They blow a chance to put Baltimore away.

We'll see if that 2-0 lead holds up. I hope it does.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 7:46 PM by Jeff T. Highlight this comment 139

Over the season in listening to Dick's call of the game, I was thinking that it was just a couple fluke statements.

However, I am now thinking it has become a big issue to where I think Bremer needs to get his eyes checked. All the HR excitement on countless warning track fly ball outs, or even steps in front of the WT.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 7:47 PM by TK Highlight this comment 140

Cuddle's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 8:08 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 141

Whats the over/under the pen blows it!

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 8:32 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 142

if anyone here is insane enough to want to go to tomorrow's game...

I have a very good ticket that I would give you... in exchange for a beer at Hubert's, and a Kramarzyk's polish at the game.

about 12 bucks spent... for a 34 dollar ticket in the sixth row. (to watch a game in a blizzard) And if it's rained out, you keep the ticket.

any takers?

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 9:02 PM by mj Highlight this comment 143

A good 85% effort for the Twins tonight (Repko and Butera lower the 100% effort) and a great night pitching from Baker and Capps to close the door.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 9:02 PM by TK Highlight this comment 144

But, it's a ballpark Jorge. Take a look at PNC Park in Pissburgh: PNC has very much a look and design like TF, their scoreboard is in the exact same spot ours is. I don't hear people in the LF stands there bitching about not seeing the video board. Same could be said about Comerica Park.

What Populous missed when they designed those places is something most of the other new parks have: the scoreboard is in center field. Case in point: Seattle, Tejas, Fatlanta, San Fran, both New Yorks.... Doesn't matter if it's in center field, because there's no seats out there in most places, ergo, nobody bitches and moans about not being able to see it.

Ergo, if you want to see the video board at TF, or Comerica or PNC Park, don't sit in left field, period.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 10:19 PM by luke Highlight this comment 145

Hey mj, don't forget who got you the hits in game 163 to both keep the game alive and then to win it all in the 13th. That's right, Alexi Casilla.

But I know, I know, what have you done for me lately...

Look guys and gals. Everyone needs to take a big collective deep breath and just relax. Sure the Twins kind of stink right now. Yeah they're 7-12. I know they haven't won a single series yet. It feels like it's still fucking winter out there. The Twins kind of stink right now. Everyone's worried about Mauer's future position, his durability, and his contract. We all hate baseball's media policy. The Twins kind of stink. We just lost two games to BALTIMORE. The bullpen has sure had it's fair share of poor outings. And yes, the Twins kind of stink right now.

But let me offer you all several reasons to lift up your collective chin:

1) It's April. And it's a loooong season. Our position right now is akin to being middle-back of the pack in the 2nd mile of a marathon. 
2) The Twins have played 5 games at home so far and 14 on the road. A 7-12 record in a stretch like that might even be considered ok.
3) They're only 5 games under .500, an acceptable pre-ASB record by the Twins' standards. (Yes, this is kind of tongue-in-cheek, talking about winning percentage at this point in the season, but that's kind of the point.)
4) Our starting pitchers (with the exception of Pavano the other night) have been pitching quite well! Good hitting can take unexplained breaks once in a while, but more often good starting pitching is either there, or it's not.
5) It's April. 
6) We haven't had Morneau, Mauer, Young, Kubel, Cuddyer, and Valencia all healthy and playing well at the same time yet. When (if) we do, look out.
7) With the exception of Boston, we're done playing the AL East on the road, and practically half done with playing them period. For the whole season.  
8) It's just April.
9) Good hitters will start hitting. Hitting is typically slow in April anyhow, so as the weather warms and our boys start getting a few more key hits, confidence will build, hitting is contagious, and it'll be a cycle that will feed on itself until we go on our typical 17-2 streak in mid-June. 
10) It's April. 
11) Thome is going to hit 600 this year in a Twins uniform. 

So everyone just relax and enjoy some relatively unimportant baseball with the cards stacked against us. There are greener pastures on the horizon. 

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 10:42 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 146

NEW YORK (AP) — With both sides expressing support for adding two playoff teams in 2012, negotiators for baseball players and owners are considering having the new wild-card round be best-of-3 or winner-take-all.

Because longer series would push playoffs deeper into cold weather, the sides are not considering have the new first round be best-of-5 of best-of-7.

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 11:13 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 147

Hey Luke, why are you so upset about a second video board at Target Field? Does it somehow detract from the game? Is it watering down the purity of the sport? Is it ruining your day at the ballpark?

Posted on April 21, 2011 at 11:15 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 148

I am one who likes the addition of the new scoreboard. I like that from my seats on the 3rd baseline, I do not have to crank my neck to the left and then back to the right to watch the play.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 12:58 AM by tk Highlight this comment 149

X - tell me, excluding TF, of the 29 other ballparks in MLB, and with the exception of Whatever-Bankrupt-Company-Bought-the-Naming-Rights-Today Stadium in Miami, is there another ballpark in the league that has two video boards; mostly with the reasoning of cow-towing to a small number of fans in one small section of the ballpark?

Take into account: Wrigley doesn't really even have an electronic scoreboard; and even Cowboys Stadium Without the Roof in the Bronx can get away with ONE.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 07:50 AM by luke Highlight this comment 150

thanks to everyone for the KC info, i think we will do the Negro League Baseball museum as well as Arthur Bryants since it is right there.

Cant wait, hopefully the twins will improve so we can see at least one win!

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 08:18 AM by Thrillhouse Highlight this comment 151

Why does TF have to be the same as "all" the other ballparks? Luke, would you like to go back to the cookie cutter model of stadiums that they used when the old places in Philly, Pitt, St Louis and Cincinnati were built?

Get over it Luke. People are going to sit in the left field seats because tickets are sold there. Do they have to be able to see a scoreboard? No. But the Twins have bettered their experience by putting one there.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 08:34 AM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 152

Cow-towing???

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 08:52 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 153

Thrill ---

You will not be disappointed. Just make sure you are OK with the vinegar based sauce as mentioned above. Bryant's ribs are excellent/top notch but are also authentic and lots of people seem to have a problem with authentic.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 08:57 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 154

Psssst, I hear the right field scoreboard likes to start the Wave. Pass it on.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 08:58 AM by Chad Highlight this comment 155

St. Loius, a great baseball town, has two boards at their park, and after watching the Twins' series there last year, I found neither board to be distracting, nor did they diminish the ballpark expeirence on iota. Besides that, what does it really matter what they have at other ballparks as long as what the Twins have here serves their fans well? Who cares if they don't have two boards in Atlanta, San Francisco, or Detroit?
There's no zealot like a convert, and I understand you're new to this whole "Baseball purist" thing - after all, it took quite a bit of convincing to make you a convert to outdoor baseball - but if anything other than the perfect model in your head will not satisfy your new-found baseball aesthetic, I suggest you stay home and listen to the games on the radio.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 09:09 AM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 156

Chad- Wait, what? The right to feel scoreboards likes to haunt your grave?

I hate being at the end in a game of telephone.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 09:32 AM by Jared Highlight this comment 157

Joe-

Concerning Casilla, remember whose idiotic baserunning error cost the Twins the victory in the bottom of the 9th, on a bloop Punto hit that clearly is going to be caught but just deep enough to tag, Casilla was 6 feet off the bag and had to go back to the base before going home and then was called out by about an inch. I have video of it, but can't quite figure out how to upload it.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 11:37 AM by Duffman Highlight this comment 158

Correction: Minnesota at St. Louis two years ago.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 11:38 AM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 159

Fenway now has three boards. Put a link to the unveiling, which looked pretty sweet.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 11:52 AM by baggio16 Highlight this comment 160

I thought it was excessive when my health club upgraded equipment to add tv's to each treadmill, now I enjoy it.

Also, I like how the new video board also provides new information and inning recap, etc. to those that can see the main board. Also if you happen to be on camera, you have a better chance of seeing yourself without looking off in the distance or turning to try and see yourself (not a big deal, but you don't look like an idiot as much doing so...)

BTW, why are we still talking about the video board?

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 12:01 PM by tk Highlight this comment 161

Also, why is it so often the case that people's natural instinct when they are on the video board to stand up?

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 12:03 PM by tk Highlight this comment 162

How is the weather in Mpls right now? I called the Twins information line and they state the game is still on, but it is still early, so I just wanted to gain someone's perspective, as I live out-state.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 12:11 PM by tk Highlight this comment 163

TK, light rain and cool/cold.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 12:28 PM by Steeks Highlight this comment 164

I heard they are showing "Passion of the Christ" on the two video boards after the game. Can anybody confirm this?

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 1:25 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 165

New meaning to a sacrifice fly.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 1:32 PM by Steeks Highlight this comment 166

I heard they're showing Frosty The Snowman on the video boards after the game.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 2:42 PM by mj Highlight this comment 167

Please ignore any and all posts from Luke.

Thanks much,

The Management

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 3:28 PM by Max Highlight this comment 168

Odds on the game being played tonight? 50-50? Not sure why they would not do a noon then 7pm start tommorow.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 4:03 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 169

I've still got my fingers crossed for a postponement tonight. Weather is supposed to be nicer tomorrow, and even nicer on Sunday.

Baseball is much more fun to watch on a sunny day than on a rainy day!

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 4:08 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 170

I think it would need to be raining the proverbial cats and dogs, with no end in sight, to kill the game. They really like to do as planned.

My problem is do I:
1. Go down and take a pretty good chance on being miserable/wet/cold or
2. Stay home and watch the game on 50 inch HD plasma while eating fresh, hot pizza and enjoying a couple of perfectly chilled Black Butte Porters.

Decisions, decisions.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 4:17 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 171

My problem is that I have four tickets, and it looks like three of them won't be used. :-(

But, if the game is postponed until Saturday or Sunday, I can give them to a friend of mine where all four will get used and enjoyed.

Oh well, I'll head over to the park in an hour or so and see what happens. Worst thing that can happen is I'll see a baseball game. :-)

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 4:22 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 172

Maybe head over to Sneaky Petes and wait it out till they make an annoucement! Great happy hour on beers and apps! Plus you can say hi to wally! LOL!

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 4:30 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 173

At 5 o’clock I am going to the YMCA for a run and a steam. Then change into my long underwear (top and bottom), get a couple of free beers at the Rock Bottom (using the coupons from the back of Twins tickets), put on my raincoat, scarf, gloves, face mask and cap and head to TF! I love my temporary time on the planet, rain or drizzle, on Earth Day!

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 4:35 PM by buzz Highlight this comment 174

If the game were to be postponed, it would be nice to have a 5pm call, especially when the Twins are in their pre-game prep.

Also, it would allow me to purchase some really nice and cheap Dugout Box to use at a later date at a heck of a price!

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 4:36 PM by tk Highlight this comment 175

Wonder what DickBert will have to say about "outdoor baseball" tonight.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 4:56 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 176

Almost fired off on a $25 gamble to have 2 seats behind home plate with fees, in hopes the game is postponed and replayed.

If it were a little bit worse out, I would have done so, but since I won't be able to make it, I decided that it was too big of a risk.

However, if it were Justin Morneau making the call on whether they would play tonight, I would have bought them for sure! I mean the 4 days flu and now sprinkling, it would be sure to keep him out another 4 games!

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 5:12 PM by tk Highlight this comment 177

If the game is postponed it will be played as a split double header on July 18. Wish I was in town to go down and buy up cheap tickets on the street tonight!

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 5:42 PM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 178

I won't lie, I'm not disappointed that tonight's game was postponed. :-)

I tried the 'Minneapple' pie tonight. It's very good, and I'm not usually a big fan of apple pie. I'll definitely have it again!

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 7:22 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 179


Posted on April 22, 2011 at 7:30 PM by Pics Highlight this comment 180

Ran 3 miles, sat in whirl pool, drank two beers, hung out with a couple of cool Twins fans, ate #5 from JJ. Rather be at the game, wasted, happy. Take my mom in a wheelchair tomorrow. Happy.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 7:38 PM by Buzz Highlight this comment 181

there wasn't any weather that should have caused a rain delay, much less a cancelation.

Looking at radar now, the entire game could have been played without 1 drop of rain during the game.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 9:32 PM by mj Highlight this comment 182

As the Tribe's beat writer from the Plain Dealer tweeted: "Clearly one of these teams didn't want to play tonight." As long as the decision was in their hands, the Twins were willing to make that call. Hopefully that call doesn't mean we have to see green hats on the players tomorrow!

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 10:02 PM by fiesta Highlight this comment 183

I had to look up the answer to this question... to be certain before posting...

who makes the decision as to whether a game will begin, or be postponed due to weather or unplayable field conditions?

The home team's manager.

Once it has started, then the umpiring crew makes all decisions.

but as the rule reads... there would be nothing to stop Gardenhire from saying "It's too humid today, I think we better reschedule this for a less humid day, when I have more of my players healthy."

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 10:09 PM by mj Highlight this comment 184

Read my latest blog post about why I think the rainout is great!

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 10:13 PM by Vikeologist Highlight this comment 185

there's no question it was a smart move... they'll have Mauer, Mourneau, Young and Nishioka in the lineup for the rescheduled game. It just sucks to be one of the 35000 people who had the rug pulled out from under them... a rainout with no rain!

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 10:31 PM by mj Highlight this comment 186

Green hats? I don't get it.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 10:32 PM by Brian G Highlight this comment 187

Earth Day.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 10:43 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 188

they gave out green Earth Day hats.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 10:45 PM by mj Highlight this comment 189

imagine if the Twins win the rescheduled game... and then win the division by a game, with Cleveland finishing second!

that would make a questionable decision by Gardy, look like a downright DIRTY, unethical trick!

and it would be funny.

Posted on April 22, 2011 at 10:55 PM by mj Highlight this comment 190

Green hats to be worn during makeup game in July to appease the sponsor Pentair...

Pretty incredible damage in St. Louis tonight. Especially bad out at Lambert Int'l. Airport shutdown until at least Monday. Wonder how the Reds will get to Milwaukee after Sunday night's ESPN game...

Posted on April 23, 2011 at 12:25 AM by Max Highlight this comment 191

Bus to Memphis and then fly.

Posted on April 23, 2011 at 06:47 AM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 192

It's early,(and I might still be drunk), but this rain out, along with the Yankees game last year when they postponed the game after the rain had ended, well, it makes me think that they're babying the turf.

If TF is supposed to have the best drainage system for any field in all of MLB, it seems that there should be very few instances where the game would be rained out.

To reiterate; still drunk.

Posted on April 23, 2011 at 07:17 AM by Chad Highlight this comment 193

What about the Baltimore game last year?

Posted on April 23, 2011 at 08:59 AM by tk Highlight this comment 194

I waddled on over to the ticket office and picked up two SRO tickets for the game today. The weather sucks, but at least Morneau is playing again.

Posted on April 23, 2011 at 10:09 AM by Chad Highlight this comment 195

Anyone who can correctly spell "reiterate" is not drunk.

Posted on April 23, 2011 at 11:02 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 196

We have four starters in today's lineup batting under .200. Yikes.

Posted on April 23, 2011 at 11:48 AM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 197

A twenty minute rain delay would have allowed the game to be played Friday; they played in worse conditions last year at games I attended. It wasn't fun to endure the hell of the first day of public ticket sales to get last night's tickets, invest 30 bucks in gas to drive to Minneapolis (per am1500 on the drive in, they're gonna try to get the game in!) to discover that the team is too depleted, sick and weak to play the Cleveland Indians at home.

Posted on April 23, 2011 at 1:02 PM by Gone buggy Highlight this comment 198

question about Carmona's shoes. He has black shoes and what appears to be white tips. As a batter, how distracting do you think this is? Sitting at the game it is distracting and it made me wonder.

Posted on April 23, 2011 at 1:39 PM by tk Highlight this comment 199

After further considerations, must not be too bad with the way the Twins 7 hit him....

Posted on April 23, 2011 at 1:46 PM by tk Highlight this comment 200

Now that the offensive woes have been addressed (at least for one day), let's tackle bigger issues. The Wave, Everybody-Clap-Your-Hands and that annoying reminder of the Bronx Zoo - "DAYY-Oh" - have all got to be criminalized. Write your legislators!

Posted on April 23, 2011 at 2:14 PM by terry Highlight this comment 201

The "Everybody-Clap-Your-Hands" deal is even more annoying than the wave.

Posted on April 23, 2011 at 3:07 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 202

I said I would be the first on here to compliment the team for playing a full effort. The Twins have now put a 85% effort followed by a 100% effort. It was nice to see the Twins bats come alive and movement on the base paths! The only player to have an 0-fer had a good game in the field and drove in a run on a ground ball out.

Posted on April 23, 2011 at 3:22 PM by tk Highlight this comment 203

Ben - don't tell that to Max, I swear he did the voiceover for that...lol. Yes, it is annoying.
I was gratified to see a tremendous game at TF today. 10-3, on a cold but beautiful day at the yard.
OK - I'll admit, I'll get over the second video board. I do like the player profile with the autograph they put up there for each batter. And, I'll have to admit, the tower adds a nice touch.

2 beer brats and fries today - I think from now on, I'm bypassing the regular hot dog fare there and going with the brats.

Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:28 PM by luke Highlight this comment 204

Good to have the bats busting out today at the ballpark and in between innings the DJ played a more balanced line-up that made it a more enjoyable experience too. I found the radiant heat, home plate terrace, did not make a difference as the wind swirls around up there too much. No wind when in my seats though.

Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:28 PM by NotMendoza Highlight this comment 205


Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:58 PM by Pics Highlight this comment 206

Nice to see our boys not in the AL Central cellar!

I splurged on a single for the game tomorrow. Section 102, down by the field. Looking forward to seeing some sun and hopefully another win. Leave those Sox in the rear-view mirror!

Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:50 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 207

I saw The TF Kestrel again today.

Third inning, soaring above the stadium, behind home plate.

He's alive and well... and waiting for moth weather.

Posted on April 24, 2011 at 12:03 AM by mj Highlight this comment 208

there were also 2 large swans that flew over the field... not too high over the park... low enough that I heard several people say "LOOK AT THOSE GEESE!"

I don't know what species of swan they were... but they were twice the size of a Canada goose. And they were flying south!

I hope they don't know something that we don't, about the weather coming in the next few days!

Posted on April 24, 2011 at 12:19 AM by mj Highlight this comment 209

MJ ---

I doubt you are seeing a Kestrel - more likely a hawk, or perhaps an Osprey. Kestrels are the smallest birds of prey around here, not much bigger than a Robin, and would be hard to spot unless quite close. They do not soar, at least not as does a broader winged raptor - they are a falcon and have relatively short, pointed wings. They typically hover against a headwind and swoop after their prey. Maybe someone can get a picture for a positive ID on what you are watching.

Posted on April 24, 2011 at 12:38 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 210

Hopefully the bats haven't cooled down from yesterday's shellacking...and we'll see something similar today.

Posted on April 24, 2011 at 10:02 AM by luke Highlight this comment 211

Since I sat in the Grandstand for the opener, Saturday was the first game I could actually see the new video board. I liked the "Inning summary" feature, showing what each batter had done. In case the concession/restroom run took longer than expected, it's a great way to catch up the scorecard.

I had one of the new Kramarczuk/Food Network sausages yesterday...the smoked bratwurst with caraway sauerkraut was great. Pricey,as expected, but great. Even better when I added my own smuggled Cleveland Stadium Mustard. (The smoked brat isn't sold at the K stands, but at the "Taste of TT" stand right next to Hrbek's, fyi)

Posted on April 24, 2011 at 10:06 AM by fiesta Highlight this comment 212


Posted on April 24, 2011 at 2:10 PM by Pics Highlight this comment 213

Pavano sucks! We score 2 runs and he gives up 4 runs in about 5 pitches. More money well spent by Bill Smith

Posted on April 24, 2011 at 2:14 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 214

good pic Pics.
I gotta say, much to my disappointment, the video board and tower actually don't look TOO much out of place.

Click my name to see the snaps I took from yesterday's game. Nevermind the "Jersey Boys-Twins Game" title...I went to see Jersey Boys on Friday night with me girlfriend and put the pics from that and the game in one folder. Sorry to disappoint, just TF pics.

Jersey Boys is one hell of a good show, though. It's here til May 8.

Posted on April 24, 2011 at 2:34 PM by luke Highlight this comment 215

Arrggghhh. Span just got lucky. SO many times when Twins hitters are called upon to bunt, the do it half-heartedly. Selfish, selfish, selfish.

Posted on April 24, 2011 at 3:18 PM by antifire Highlight this comment 216

Good job by Repko. I should clarify -- it always seems like it's the Twins "stars" who feel bunting is beneath them. .... Atta boy Kubel!

Posted on April 24, 2011 at 3:20 PM by antifire Highlight this comment 217

Good win today, and a lovely day at the ballpark. I'm sitting here watching the kids run the bases, because I'm not ready to go home yet!

Posted on April 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 218

Just caught the tale end of "Inspector America" on the History Channel.

I caught the end of a clip on the HERC next to TF.

I hope to catch the full part at some point, but they spoke about the garbage being burned and the host, Timothy Galarnyk, put on a scent enhancer mask and stood close to the exit of the facility and had difficulties smelling the burnt garbage.

My guess is that they had not burned a lot of garbage that day, however, I have yet to smell the garbage while at TF.

I guess earlier in the episode they were out at the Dump to talk about the collapse and the structure.

Posted on April 24, 2011 at 6:09 PM by TK Highlight this comment 219

Wow more snow on the way tommorow night? Wonder if another rainout coming! Got tickets for Thurday afternoon. Hope the sun is out by then!!

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:37 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 220

I'm debating a road trip to KC this weekend, forecast is for mid 70s and sun. And there are a lot of tickets available!

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 12:43 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 221

Not looking good at all for Tuesday's and Wednesday's games...

Maybe we will have a 4th of July doubleheader when Tampa returns to Minneapolis in July or a doubleheader on Wednesday, July 6?

I was burned on Friday night and will probably be burned again Wednesday night.

I have tickets to both Wednesday night and Wednesday July 6, so maybe I will get a doublheader on July 6?

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 1:12 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 222

If the game is called on Tuesday or Wednesday, I would hope they would make the call by 5pm. My friends and I commute from St. Cloud and it was not a positive experience for them to get to the game after driving an hour, paying for parking, grabbing a bite to eat, sitting down and then have an announcement made...

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 1:30 PM by tk Highlight this comment 223

I would think Wed they will play. 90% chance of rain tommorow only 50% on Wed. Will be cool!

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 1:32 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 224

" --- not a positive experience --- "

Blasphemy!!! It's outdoor baseball - it can not be anything BUT a positive experience. I'm astonished that about 35 posters here haven't jumped all over you already!

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 1:55 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 225

The odds of them calling the game by 5 PM are slim.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 2:19 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 226

I stand by what I said Ben, at close to $4/gallon and to pay for parking, it is not a positive experience. I get it that going to the ballpark is never a bad experience, but to have to turn around 30 minutes later, it is not a positive one.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 2:37 PM by tk Highlight this comment 227

That was sarcasm TK, and thinly veiled at that.

But, are you suggesting that being cold, wet, and generally miserable for four hours would have been a positive experience?

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 2:45 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 228

Sorry, didn't pick up the SARC :)

Yes, I would have enjoyed the game immensely, might have been able to move further down the lower bowl...rain suit in tow.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 2:48 PM by tk Highlight this comment 229

It cost us $31 to park on Friday due to the postponement...it's usually $5.00 on nights (if you leave the ramp after 8pm) and weekends...well had I known that, we would have went to grab a bite to eat or something.

Let's just say it was not the most pleasant experience and drive home to Rochester on Friday night. Than to turn on WCCO for the 10pm news and find out it never rained after 7pm...only made us more unhappy.

I realize its outdoor baseball and this stuff happens but last year I remember Kevin Smith saying, "unless its a deluge, more than likely we will play, so if you have tickets, plan in driving up to the game"

But we should all know by now we shouldn't take much into consideration when listening to DSP, Kevin Smith, or Steve Smith or any other member of the Twins front office...

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 3:09 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 230

TK ---

We stayed home. It was a really tough decision, but relative comfort won out (just barely). And, we feel we got lucky with the postponement and are happy we are not "out" a game. Having to come from more than just a couple of suburbs away makes things just that much tougher decision-wise and I can certainly understand your position.

Unfortunately, there are no standards - next time it will be blasting rain at game time and they will wait it out. Did the deal Friday have anything to do with the number of fans who had already arrived or the known/expected level of ticket sales? It would not surprise me to learn that they were closely monitoring concessions and the decision to pull the pin was, in part, tied to the point at which they expected to make their nut for the day. Fan "experience" - positive or negative - apparently did not factor in --- it is clear that the game could have been played.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 3:17 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 231

I have tickets for tomorrow night which I can't use and can't seem to dispose of. (Five seats, section 315, row 1, face value, if you're interested.)

I'm praying for rain.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 3:29 PM by Rick 232

The only reason it was postponed was the Twins wanted another "off day" to get healthier. They would presumably also have Mauer, Nishioka, Young and Morneau later in the season when the make-up game is played.

Rumor has it there was already talk in Baltimore on Thursday night from Twins officials talking about postponing Friday's game. Heard that from LaVelle this morning, not sure how true it is.

I read somewhere that one of the Cleveland beat writers also was surprised it was postponed and anyone from Cleveland would have a good idea relating to early season postponements.

And why didn't they even consider delaying the start of the game more than anything? Usually they delay the start time if the weather system is moving through the area.

Why was the game not immediately made up on Saturday night with the noon game already scheduled on Saturday?

I know Cleveland comes to Minneapolis in July and again in September, but they could have played a DH on Saturday, the Twins simply chose not to.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 3:44 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 233

I had to laugh last night watching the Cardinals/Reds game, 90% chance of rain at game time with chance of severe weather, game was played.

Heavy rain in the 7th/8th inning, no delay. Announcers were speaking about how the fields are in such great conditions and prepared so well these days that delays should not occur unless severe weather.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 3:52 PM by tk Highlight this comment 234

Mike,

Listening to Gladden talk as I was on my way to Minneapolis, he spoke of how he was grateful the Twins called it early.

Here is a snapshot of what I think he was saying: (Gladden) I am glad they called this one early, most times you sit around and wait these things out and in the end the game ends up being called. This way the teams know the status and do not have to wait around....

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 3:54 PM by tk Highlight this comment 235

Earlier in the thread it was stated that the new video board was put in place for "political reasons". What was meant by that comment?

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 4:20 PM by Jorge Highlight this comment 236

Mike - regarding last Saturday, I know my gf and I were hoping for a doubleheader, as we had tickets for Saturday's game. Judging by the way the Twins handled the sole rainout last year on May 7, folks with the tickets for the May 7 rained out game didn't get to see the makeup on that Saturday: the people with Saturday's tickets got to see both games.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 4:31 PM by luke Highlight this comment 237

luke - you are confusing the suspended Yankees game last year with the postponed Orioles game in May.

Unless you had tickets to Friday night, you would not be able to go to the make-up game had it been played on Saturday. You would have only gotten to go to the regular scheduled noon game in which you had tickets for.

The Friday night Orioles game last year was postponed well before the gametime meaning those folks with tickets to the Friday night Orioles game could go to the Saturday makeup game at noon. Those with tickets to the regular scheduled 6pm Orioles game could not go to the noon make-up game unless they had tickets to both games inititally.

It was the suspended Yankees game that fans could not go to since it was an "official" game and more than 5 innings had been played when the game was suspended.

I was just disappointed the Twins called the game off last Friday night when the reality was there was no more rain on the radar and the showers were cleared out of the area by 7pm. It was dry the rest of the night although it would have been chilly. Everyone was already at the ballpark, why not delay the start 30 minutes or so to get the field ready? Instead, the Twins went the easy route and opted for the "off day" caring less about the fans.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 4:59 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 238

Luke-
That wasn't for the postponed game, that was for the game that was started and not finished (the suspended game vs. the Yankees). If a game is postponed before it even starts than fans with tickets to that game get to go to the rescheduled one. They were two different cases.

There was one rainout and one suspended game last year.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 5:05 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 239

What Mike said, I forgot to refresh before I posted.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 5:05 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 240

I just got off the phone with the Twins ticket office and they said that it's their decision and they "try" to call the game before gates open so she said tomorrow that would be by 5:30 but she said if gates open it then becomes Gardy's and Gardy's decision alone up til first pitch if we play the game, great knowing my decision to drive or not drive up for the game tomorrow night is in the hands of our manager lol. Here's hoping they learned from Friday's debalacle that we'd appreciate more than a 30 minute notice before first pitch the game's off. I wholeheartedly understand the weather is the weather and I couldn't be happier we are back outdoors but a little more notice would be nice for those of us that don't live in the immediate metro area, that's all.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 5:08 PM by Justin Highlight this comment 241

Considering the forecasting tools they have available, they could probably know by 1pm if they need to postpone a 7:10pm game.

I'm wondering how much food goes to waste in a situation like Friday night. Every stand was probably stocked, and they didn't sell very much. (I tried to do my part with a Kramarczuk's brat while I was there!)

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 5:28 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 242

I think I sense some whining from the outstate fans. The bad weather was bound to come sooner or later. The Twins have had a great deal with the devil so far in the first 90+ games at Target Field.

I have to reiterate because people have short memories, if the outstate fans are upset about driving long distances and not having the games played, they should have ponied up to pay for a retractable roof. Nobody paid for the ballpark except those paying sales tax in Hennepin County. No sympathy whatsoever if you have to gamble when the weather is dicey. There was plenty of opportunity to help pay and thus prevent the missed games.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 5:28 PM by Max Highlight this comment 243

Should have put a roof on her!

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 6:14 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 244

Max as an outstate person, I would be happy to pay extra money for the stadium to prevent it from adding a roof. I do about 50% of my shopping in Hennepin County, so I feel I have assisted the cause of the stadium.

My concern about postponements, if you are going to call it 30 minutes prior to the game, you might as well call it before the gates open.

I am quiet all right with a game being called 30 minutes into the normal start time.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 6:59 PM by TK Highlight this comment 245

Bottom line....there is absolutely no reason that game could not have been played Friday night, and it SHOULD have been. Twins should be embarassed and ashamed. Hopefully MLB has chastised them and told them it had better not happen again. Roof or no roof, who paid for what, makes no difference. Just plain embarassing.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 7:13 PM by antifire Highlight this comment 246

If the Twins were healthy, I guarantee they would have played on Friday night. Gardy wanted that game pushed back to the middle of the summer when the team presumably will be healthy!

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 7:13 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 247

Former Twin Phil Humber taking a no-hitter into the 7th against the Yankees on ESPN.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 7:57 PM by TK Highlight this comment 248

The Twins couldn't possibly have made up the rainout by playing a second game on Saturday....

because Mauer and Nishioka were still on the DL on Saturday!

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:11 PM by mj Highlight this comment 249

HUMBER!? Man, I hated that guy, he's been pure awful his entire ML career. Hope he blows it.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:13 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 250

TK just jinxed Humber.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:16 PM by mj Highlight this comment 251

Good. Thank you, TK.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:21 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 252

"I'm wondering how much food goes to waste in a situation like Friday night --- "

None. It is eaten by the first fans to arrive and purchase at the next game.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:34 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 253

watch Baseball Tonight if you want to see the worst defensive play in the history of baseball.... Yankee game in the 9th... weak popup in the infield... and no one even made an attempt to catch it...landed four feet in back of the mound, and the batter came around to score later.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:41 PM by mj Highlight this comment 254

watch Baseball Tonight if you want to see the worst defensive play in the history of baseball.... Yankee game in the 9th... weak popup in the infield... and no one even made an attempt to catch it...landed four feet in back of the mound, and the batter came around to score later.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:42 PM by mj Highlight this comment 255

What!?!?! A team that has lost 10 of 11 goes into the All Mighty NY to blank the Yankees? How is that even possible!?!?!?!?

The Sox should have just given up...

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:53 PM by TK Highlight this comment 256

Thanks Mike and AJ. I forgot about the suspended game

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:04 PM by luke Highlight this comment 257

Jorge - one of the TF landowners (before it became TF) also owns Minikhada Storage that sits behind left field. The Pohlads were none to happy to have to pay what they considered to be WAY TOO MUCH for the land. While I have no proof, I contend the scoreboard was put in LF partly to block any potential view from the roof of the Minikhada or any future building to be put in its place, as this would financially benefit the former landowner.

Posted on April 25, 2011 at 10:39 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 258

TTH ---

So, we have our own Green Monster?

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 12:09 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 259

Well, TK, SOMEBODY in the AL Central has to have the wherewithal, drive and stamina to beat the Yankees, right???
The Twins have proved time and time and time (and time) again, that they don't have the wherewithal, drive and stamina to beat the Yankees.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 06:53 AM by luke Highlight this comment 260

No chance of this one being played today me thinks! Geez now thursday looks about 10 degrees cooler than they said yesterday! What a crappy spring!

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 08:48 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 261

I've stood on the roof of the Minnekahda building many times, and while it appears from inside the park that the scoreboard blocks the view, it's actually the upper deck. In other words, even if the scoreboard weren't there, you still wouldn't be able to see the field from that roof.

Still, I think that the placement of the scoreboard was not merely serendipitous. There was a point being made.

It is interesting to note that, if they could obtain permission from the city and the historic preservation people, that building is strong enough to serve as the foundation for a building maybe 20 stories taller. You'd probably only have to go up five stories or so to see over the scoreboard.

More to the point, there's an awful lot of room just to the west (the current parking lot) where you could build all sorts of things that might afford a view of the action. The Twins probably wouldn't agree, but I think that would be pretty cool.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 09:27 AM by Rick 262

I've never understood why teams get their undies in such a bunch over the prospect of people watching from far away. Those people aren't prospective customers anyway, are they?

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 09:51 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 263

I believe that everyone with even a single dollar in their pocket must be considered a potential customer.

The thought is probably that it could impact suite and group sales.

And spite. There's always spite.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 09:58 AM by Rick 264

Heading out at 5pm again tonight in 100% rain conditions. Have the rain suit packed,along with the winter gear. Hopefully we do not get comfortable in our seats with a cold Premium to have an announcement made. Please at least give us until 7:30 if you do not call it before the gate opens...

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:14 AM by tk Highlight this comment 265

I saw this on the news last night...

A link to Michael Cuddyer's flickr page. Lots of nice photos of the different ballparks and some nice shots from some areas we don't get to see everyday.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:22 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 266

Thanks for sharing Mike, that is excellent!

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:44 AM by tk Highlight this comment 267

The Cubs didn't make a fuss over people on the Wrigley rooftops when it was just tenants with lawn chairs and a cooler of beer. When it became a commercial enterprise (there are a couple of buildings that have no apartments or tenants, they're just glorified luxury boxes, only in use on gameday), then the Cubs made noise and now get a cut of the action. The club's contention was those rooftop clubs were taking away customers from the team's own luxury box sales and they had a valid point.

In Philadelphia, the A's had a lot of rooftop viewers in right field across the street from Shibe Park. Landlords and/or tenants would charge fans less than the club to watch the game from the building roofs. Connie Mack eventually raised the right field wall during the Great Depression with his so called "spite fence" to block the view.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 11:35 AM by Jorge Highlight this comment 268

I'm surprised Max was the first person to chime in and berate us outstate fans for whining about the rainout and letting us know we all mutually dropped the ball when the state didn't put a roof on the stadium. Thanks for bringing that up Max, I must have been out in the garage when the govenor called me to ask me what I felt about it. I'd still have said no.

I think those of us who aren't privileged enough to live in Hennepin county understand there will be legitamate rainouts. The frustrating thing about Friday was it wasn't a rainout. The rain was the excuse, the team just didn't want to play. So yes, it is frustrating to drive for hours, have the game called, and read the quote in Saturday's paper that Justin Morneau said the rainout was "welcomed by everybody." It speaks to the toughness of the team. We will never beat the Yankees when we're not confident in playing the Indians in front of the home crowd, regardless of the health of a handful of players (or have a giant pantsless teddy bear tell us when we're supposed to make some noise). Also, given the demand of summer tickets, the Twins, through Kevin Smith, have been pushing spring games as an equivalent experience if summer tickets aren't available. If as a non-season ticket holder I'm stranded in a non-functioning virtual waiting room until summer tickets are gone, then yes, I will use spring games as an alternate. But then I expect the Twins to make at least a half-hearted effort to play the game.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 11:40 AM by GoneBuggy Highlight this comment 269

I always figured the trap and scoreboard were there to discourage people from camping out on top of the parking lot and trying to catch the game from there.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 11:43 AM by Schda Highlight this comment 270

Random story: So I'm browsing stubhub today... and the "prices from" during the summer went something like '26, 26, 29, 30, 4, 29, 28...'

Somebody had listed 3 seats, section 314 (directly behind home), row 6, for 4$ each for the Tuesday Dodgers game.

S-s-s-core!

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 12:11 PM by eskerber Highlight this comment 271

GoneBuggy - you couldn't have said it any better. The Twins showed their true colors on Friday night and it only further shows they lack some mental toughness.

Reading Morneau's and some others' comments makes me sick as a fan who pays a lot of money for season tickets.

I took Friday afternoon off and we drove up from Rochester fully expecting a baseball game to be played. Rainouts happen but when the HOME TEAM TWINS decided to postpone the game when they did just goes to show they did not want to play Friday night.

I am an outstate fan who drives 90 minutes to Twins games and I fully support an open-air stadium. Postponements happen, its part of the being outdoors.

But when you postpone a game due to the fact you are hurting by injuries is a joke.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 12:17 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 272

It sounds like the Twins are expected to make an annoucement in the next 1-2 hours regarding tonights game...

It wouldn't be a bad idea to scoop up some cheap tickets on stubhub and hopefully you will get a nice July game for very cheap. That's of course, assuming it might be re-scheduled for July. Tomorrow night's game will probably be played, but tonight and tomorrow afternoon do not look good.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 12:36 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 273

Hey, at least they made the call early today.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 1:03 PM by Chad Highlight this comment 274

According to Phil Mackey on Twitter, tonight's game has been postponed. They'll do a double header on Thursday (12:10 and 7:10).

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 1:03 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 275

From the Minnesota Twins Facebook page:
Minnesota Twins
Tonight’s game has been postponed until Thursday, April 28 at 7:10 p.m. as part of a split day-night doubleheader. Fans holding tickets to tonight’s (April 26) postponed game, should keep their tickets for admission into the rescheduled game (Thursday, April 28 at 7:10 p.m.). Visit www.twinsbaseball.com for further details.

I do not trust this information until it is on the 33-Twins recording or on the Minnesota Twins official website.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 1:15 PM by tk Highlight this comment 276

Just Confirmed on the Twins website.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 1:15 PM by tk Highlight this comment 277

It will be interesting to see where ticket prices end up for tonight's game on StubHub, prices keep dropping, even after the announcement...

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 1:27 PM by tk Highlight this comment 278

Rick, I hope that you can use those awesome seats you had for tonight on Thursday night now!

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 1:28 PM by tk Highlight this comment 279

As an aside/update on prior info, I had Legend's Club tickets to Saturday's game. Was planning to partake in the $19.95 buffet line, only to discover that they no longer offer it. "Wasn't making money," is what I was told. Probably true.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 1:45 PM by BR Highlight this comment 280

I'd rather sit in rain for every game, than spend one second in a dome that has a roof that slides to the side.

"oh look, you can see the sky! This is almost like a real ballpark!"

Is there ANYONE who wishes we had the "Target Field Dome"?

a roof would have a HUGE mistake... they learned that after seeing the Miller "Park" Dome.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 1:57 PM by mj Highlight this comment 281

So what is the prognosis on Young?

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 2:00 PM by tk Highlight this comment 282

mj - do you remember in the bad old days, i.e. pre-TF, being told that we HAD to have a dome so that guy from North Dakota - or was it Montana - could come down and know there would be a game. We were told there was no telling how far attendance might plummet otherwise (not naming names - Sid). Now crowds of 38,000-39,000 for mid-week games in April are the norm. And I've seen quite a few North Dakota fans at the games.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 2:10 PM by terry Highlight this comment 283

And, as I keep reminding everyone, the team itself very much wanted a roof. We got what we got not out of some nod to baseball purism, but rather because it was the most the taxpayers could be bilked out of.

Someone ask Rick what he wanted. Go ahead, ask.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 2:27 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 284

a "Target Field Dome" would have been about as appealing as if they replaced the Metrodome roof with clear panels, to give the illusion that it was an outdoor park.

Retractable roof = dome

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 2:57 PM by mj Highlight this comment 285

The second year sell-outs at Target Field hardly are convincing arguments that the overwhelming majority of fans, both metro area and outstate, desire a ballpark with no roof and are willing to sit through inclement conditions to watch baseball. Wait a few years when the Twins are a midddle-of-the-pack team drawing 15,000-17,000 per game.
It's too early to use attendance numbers to make a case either way. We have to wait a few years after things settle down and the novelty has worn off.

I also think it takes one hell of a nerve to say that outstaters have no right to complain about Friday's rainout because the ballpark wasn't state funded, and therefore there was no money for a roof. As I recall, the decision to have Hennepin county fund the project wasn't on any referendum, but was a decision made by elected officials. Even if I'm mistaken in that, there are lots of outstate fans who were/are willing to see the state participate in such projects, but since it never came down to a state-wide referendum, the state's rank and file population never got a say in the matter.

I hope that the state bill for a new Vikings stadium passes and we all participate in the financing so that I never have to hear or read that kind of crap ever again.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 4:48 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 286

The evolution of my opinion on stadium roofs is well-documented here. (Scroll to the bottom, scroll to the top, click around.)

Also, you may remember that I'm a guy who took three days off, flew to New York, bought over-priced cheap seats, and stayed in cheesy but expensive hotel for two nights just to get rained out at Shea Stadium.

Did that change anything for me? Nope.

Having no roof is better than any kind of roof they can build these days. Rainouts are inevitable.

And guess what? I had tickets for tonight that were going to go to waste -- and now they won't! (If you're interested, I may still be selling a couple of these. The game is rescheduled for Thursday night.)

Rain is a passing, random element. It will help some, it will hurt some.

Roofs are a permanent bane. They hurt all.

Baseball simply should not be played indoors. Period.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 4:59 PM by Rick 287

Had a state wide referendum been held we would still have the dump as "our" ballpark.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 5:00 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 288

Speaking of roofs, I haven't checked on the Eyesore in Miami (aka the Docking Station for the Mother Ship, aka The Airplane Hangar with a Seating Capacity, aka The Mother of all High School Gymnasiums, aka The Structure that Could Double as KevininAZ's Garage, aka The Joke that Keeps on Giving), I wonder how it's looking these days.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 5:08 PM by luke Highlight this comment 289

I don't think a referendum would have passed anywhere.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 5:26 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 290

Hey Rick--since the TF calendar got the kabosh, how about compiling a 365 page daily calendar of Luke posts, errr "Lukisms"? I KNoW that would be a hot seller on this blog. I'll order 2 right now!

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 5:41 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 291

Luke ---

I am very proficient in the drafting and delivery of Cease & Desist writs. Please contact me if you need help.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 5:51 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 292

we will have crowds of 15000 - 17000 in a couple years?

I kind of doubt that... here's what the Twins drew (avg.) since 01, playing in a god-awful dump of a football stadium.

09 - 29466

08 - 28425

07 - 28349

06 - 28210

05 - 25114

04 - 23597

03 - 24024

02 - 23199

01 - 22286

But now that we have an outdoor park, the numbers will decline, because of a few rainouts.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 6:58 PM by mj Highlight this comment 293

If the buffet in the Legend's Club was discontinued, what are the food options now besides the typical concession stand fare? I was able to pick up a reasonably priced pair of tickets for Thursday evening.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:41 PM by FD Highlight this comment 294

Rick,

I think your way off on claiming roofs are a permanent bane (hurt all). In fact, I would say they are totally the opposite. There are numerous advantages to having a roof. Fan comfort, player comfort, on time schedule, safety advantages, etc. etc.

When you watch games at home, do you take your TV outside?

Heck, even without a roof there are many "covered" seats/suites/clubs/bars/concourses in TF where your out of the sun or rain. TF is not anything like the little league diamond an outdoor purist is seeking. If you really want true outdoor experience, go watch the Saints at Midway Stadium.

The only reason the Twins do not have a roofed stadium is purely financial. And in the long run it will be a mistake costing them more in lost revenue than the original roof cost.

If there was a retractable roof: On cold raining days fans would still want and look forward to going to a game. On miserably hot humid days fans would still want and look forward to going to a game. And guess what, on perfect sunny days fans would still want and look forward to going to a game. It's a win win win.

In short, outdoors is not the make or break element of a good ballpark. Bad weather however will always be a game breaker for a significant portion of the fan base. Period.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:42 PM by Dave Highlight this comment 295

Dave, Rain or shine, I will be out there to watch outdoor baseball. Just like I was at TCF for the Vikings/Bears game to which was the most fun I have had a game!

Dave, not sure what the point of taking the TV outside has to do with watching an outdoor game live, but I have been known to take a TV out to the backyard to watch a game with friends!

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:49 PM by TK Highlight this comment 296

Sorry, Dave but I have to side with Rick and all of his beliefs on ballpark roofs. They simply suck and a baseball game played indoors to me is not baseball.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:02 PM by Tom D. Highlight this comment 297

Hey MJ,
Who said a couple years? I said wait a FEW years (undefinable number) after the novelty has worn off and the the Twins are a midddle-of-the-pack team. 2001-2010 has been the Twins' best string of competative teams, with an exception or two. What were the Twins drawing in the early to mid-eighties? There were some pretty lean years there when they fielded poor teams. And let's not forget the '90s when they were almost contracted. Hell, even the last few years at The Met saw the Twins playing to some pretty sparse crowds a lot.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:06 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 298

Dave has my vote for Insane Comment Of The Month. He's obviously never been to the debacle known as Miller Park.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:15 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 299

Good point. Taking a television tuned to the game outside is one of my greatest enjoyments! Hanging out with my buds the grill, television fresh air, sky, sun and the lawn chair with me rules. My buds have been away from me for far too long.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:15 PM by NotMendoza Highlight this comment 300

Can I ask a question that requires merely conjecture and theory and since we don't have to worry about it: if this year was the final Dome year, and after "The Big Dump" felled the roof on the Humpty Dumpty in December, where would the Twins have played this year seeing as the roof won't be done until August?

Ben - what the hell does C&D letters have to do with my utter disdain for retractable roofs?

Dave - the reason the Twins didn't put a roof on TF was not financial. The reason TF doesn't have a roof was because the Twins organization cared enough about their fans to not subject them to watching something like what you see when you click my name.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:17 PM by luke Highlight this comment 301

(sorry if this turns into another phone double post)

a couple years, a few years...

I misquoted you.

My point was.... the market has supported the team well, even when they were playing in an horrific dump of a stadium.

the Met Stadium... that was a minor league park converted into a MLB/NFL stadium. I did see games there, at a young age.

St. Paul Saints? No thanks. The Gophers Big Ten games would have more players with a chance of ever playing in the show. Has anyone ever attended a Saints game, where they knew who was the starting pitcher for each team?

and why would anyone know that?

The Saints could play their home games at Fenwey, and it would still suck because it still would be bottom of the barrel misfits on both teams.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:37 PM by mj Highlight this comment 302

Dave,

I appreciate the opposing view. A couple of things...

First, note that I said, "Having no roof is better than any kind of roof they can build these days."

My point within the point is that they still haven't figured out how to build a roof which respects the game. I'm willing to allow that someday, someone might figure that out.

In fact, the proposed Tampa stadium from a few years ago might have had a roof which was A) transparent, and B) completely disappearing when not in use. Any roof which could meet those two criteria would be just fine by me. It's the whole "airplane hangar" vibe which disrespects the game, mainly because it forces players to play differently as they track balls across something other than sky.

Second, I also have always allowed that there are certain places which simply need climate control due to either heat or bugs or some combination of the two (Phoenix, Houston, Miami). These are places where half or more of the games would be played in excruciating conditions. My use of "always a bane" was a bit hyperbolic.

In fact, you won't hear me bemoaning the inclusion of a roof over the Miami park, just its sheer ugliness. That park may turn out to be a great place to play/see a game, but I can't come up with an uglier facility in the history of the major leagues. (That's a subjective statement, I know. Tell me which ones you think were uglier.)

Not only will that roof not disappear, but just like in Milwaukee, the fact that there is a roof dominates every single aspect of the architecture. It will dominate the shadows on the playing field. That's just a shame and, frankly, the result of either laziness on the part of the designers or cheapness on the part of the owners.

Finally, as much as I would like to believe that the Twins saw the light and decided to go for baseball purity, there is no denying that they really, really, really wanted a roof right up until the day they found out they weren't getting one.

Even after that point, DSP told me that they would continue looking for funding streams which might finance one while at the same time trying to build the very best roofless park that they could.

In the end, I really do believe that they saw the light and accomplished that second goal. Jerry Bell will be the first to say that he was initially deeply disappointed and eventually deeply pleased that no roof was financed. Some would label that as spin, but I've talked with him about it, and I believe that he is sincere.

In the Met Stadium years, they averaged seven postponements per season. There were also some miserable games, to be sure, but nothing approaching half. Rainouts are really just the price we pay for being free of a looming roof, and for being assured that we will never again have to sit through a game played inside an airplane hangar.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:02 PM by Rick 303

Oops, I misquoted myself, and missed one of Dave's key points.

I had written "permanent bane" -- which is not hyperbolic at all. Roofs are a permanent part of the facility, part of its character. And they are a bane because they change how the game is played. Baseball is fundamentally a game which is played against the sky, in the wind, under sun or clouds, through heat, cool, mist, fog, on grass and dirt. These things were literally designed into the game. Playing it under a roof involves a separate set of skills, and arbitrary difficulties. Its a different game.

To the finances...

Someday, when the Twins suck, the math may be different. But the financial impact of tonight's postponement won't have anything to do with ticket sales. While the game may not have been sold out, it was probably pretty close. Any remaining tickets can still be sold on Thursday night. There's no net loss, and the potential for additional gain.

The impact would be on lost season ticket sales (not a problem now) and/or lost walk-up sales (not an issue now). When the inevitable decline in team performance comes, it will be nigh on impossible to measure how much of lost revenue is due to the team's performance versus the facility. History shows that team performance on the field is perhaps the single biggest factor in financial success.

When the Twins sucked in the 90s, did people still go to the games since it was always played in "perfect" 70-degree weather?

In short, adding a roof was an insurance policy that the Twins simply don't need now. And they never will if they remain competitive. And they probably won't even if (when) they stop being competitive.

Any financial impact from postponements would be from ballpark operations, and negligible in the large scheme of things. The exception to this would be if the game is never played -- it's looking rainy for Thursday as well -- in which case they may have to give refunds or vouchers or something. Not a likely scenario, what with the Rays returning in July, but it's not impossible either.

Fourth of July double-header with fireworks after the night game anybody? If both games are washed out on Thursday, that would be my game!

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:30 PM by Rick 304

I recall more than a few games at the Met being postponed not due to rain itself, but due to wet grounds and fear of substantial damage to the field. Today's better draining fields with better bred turf mean that more than a few Metropolitan Stadium postponements from 1961 to 1981 would not occur at Target Field now and in the future.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:32 PM by Jorge Highlight this comment 305

Seattle.... also...

probably...

needed a retractable domed stadium.

here, we don't need it.

but I don't drive to the games from Montana or Timbuktu...

so take it for what it's worth.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 11:33 PM by mj Highlight this comment 306

Luke ---

My offer was made in regard to TTH's suggestion that Rick produce a calendar that contains a "Lukism" for each day. Given that you were able to flutter around even that candle without noticing the light I'm going to have to retract my offer.

Posted on April 26, 2011 at 11:49 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 307

Rick- on a bit of a sidenote to your above statements. It makes you wonder what we weren't told about the current structure of TF and its ability to be expanded. A lot of facilities (not necessarily sports) I see recently are being designed with the idea that changes would be made in the future so that the structure could accommodate said changes. Obviously no architect wants that but such considerations are at least made. Not saying that the Twins organization was being overtly shady but with their strong desire for a roof at one point, might they have quietly asked at one point that the structure be able to be expanded with the possibility of a roof? Just a look at the other side of the coin a bit with a bit of an outlandish statement. But like I said, with some of the facility constructions I have paid attention to recently, some considerations have been made for future expansion/changes. Interesting to think about but not take too seriously.

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 07:22 AM by Jared Highlight this comment 308

With today's large seating bowls, especially behind home plates, I would suspect that a large portion of ball tracking never meets the sky. All grounders, line drives, throws, etc. Probably only popups and high long balls that players get under are tracked against the sky.

And let's not forget about playing under the lights. Which back in the day drew similar criticisms concerning its effect on the game.

Times change, technology advances, and the game evolves.

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 08:29 AM by Dave Highlight this comment 309

I just picked up some nice diamond box seats for $15 for tonight.

Hopefully I get lucky and tonight's game is postponed as well meaning there will be a nice makeup game in July.

I am thinking they will probably do their best to get tonight's game in though. But again, we are talking about the Twins so expect the unexpected...I will not complain either way as there are good seats for very cheap prices right now. If the fans get lucky, they will get a nice makeup game in July. If the game is played in not-so-pleasant conditions tonight, I am not going to complain for $15 diamond box seats.

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 08:46 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 310

No Doubt they will play on tonight for sure in mist rain delays whatever it takes. Bring the snowmobile suits. I hope we see the sun by noon tommorow for my game!

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 08:54 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 311

Oakland Coliseum to be re-named Overstock.com Coliseum....This will be the fourth different name for the venue in just 13 years.

So the Twins are scheduled to visit Overstock.com Coliseum in just 3 weeks!

In this modern age of naming rights deals, we should be thankful for "Target Field"...it's as good as it can get this day in age for a corporate naming rights deal.

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:14 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 312

Just remember Mike and everyone else, the person who sold their tickets for $15 will likely be seeking back the $30 lost to today's game to break even in June/July, its a risk STH take by buying season tickets...but some rarely remember this when ticket prices do get a bit higher.

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:24 AM by TK Highlight this comment 313

I am not complaining as I have had season tickets for 7 years now. There are times when I can sell high and there have been times when I have given tickets away and sell below face value. It simply fluctuates with the market.

That will be exactly what happens come June, July and August and its 75 degrees and sunny and the Brewers/Yankees/White Sox/Red Sox are in town.

Everyone will want to be at Target Field than but they will seem to forget nights like tonight when ticket prices are as low as $5.00 on stubhub. They will complain about the high prices and blame the scalpers and the Twins.

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:36 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 314

Heading to my first game this year tonight! Going to sneak in some Captain to keep my internal "fire" going! That, plus layers of clothing!

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:38 AM by antifire Highlight this comment 315

Mike, my point was not to say you were complaining, sorry if that came across. I was just pointing that out and your post was one I picked.

I can hear the DSP this morning, the "scalpers" are winning today, we have plenty of tickets available online, but the damn scalpers are undercutting us by 75%.

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:03 AM by tk Highlight this comment 316

61% chance of rain and 44 degrees (Realfeel 35) at 7pm tonight. PLAY BALL!!!

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:25 AM by tk Highlight this comment 317

In the spirit of the late, great Halsey Hall, here's a unique opportunity which was forwarded to me yesterday that maybe some of you might have interest in:

Twins Fans,

Are you a cigar aficionado? If yes, I think that you will be interested in three fun cigar events that we have planned over the summer in conjunction with three different Twins games.

The first big event is Tuesday, May 24. I have attached a promotional flier for this event.

As you know, the Twins sell out every game and good seats are hard to come by.

For our Cigar Herf, and included in the package, are tickets in the Skyline Deck for the Twins vs Seattle game on May 24.

Before the game, at the Farmers Market Annex which is only three blocks from Target Field, you will receive:

* A complimentary Marco V premium cigar
* Spirit samples compliments of Three Olives Vodka
* Budweiser products
* Reserved Parking
* An upscale tailgate meal compliments of US Foods and prepared by the crew at Eagle Street Grille.
* Great fellowship from like minded cigar enthusiasts.

All of this for only $85.00!!! Yes – that includes the Twins ticket.

Because of the generosity of our sponsors, $45 of what you pay will be donated to the LBA – South Metro Miracle League Project. The Miracle League is a great organization that provides opportunities for children with disabilities to play baseball. If you have five minutes, I encourage watching this moving video and seeing the project where these funds will go. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0KKQPHn1jI

Due to the popularity of the Twins, the many amenities included in the package and the great fundraising cause, I expect this event to sell out fast. Please get back to me ASAP to order your ticket(s) and secure a place at the Cigar Herf. Space and tickets are limited!

To order tickets for the May 24 event, please send me an email (kirk@mm.com) with the number of tickets requested along with your name, address and phone number. I will confirm your order and ask that you mail a check at that time.

This will be a lot of fun, hopeful an nice Twins win and all for a very good cause!

Please feel free to call me with any questions.

Kirk Detlefsen
C: 612-701-7244

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:27 AM by Rick 318

The Ben/Luke exchange from yesterday...classic!

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:54 PM by Another Rick Highlight this comment 319

How many rows are there in the Dugout box? I just got 2 tickets there for tonight's game for $29 each after fees on Stubhub.

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:36 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 320

Pat, Until Rick gets his individual seats map thingie completed (hint, hint)... try the TF seat view tool.

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:49 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 321

13 rows in the dugout box, behind the dugouts and wheel chair sections the first row is row 5. I also just scored dugout box seats in sec 11 for $39. I'll be the guy in a poncho, hoodie, and several other get warm products.

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:25 PM by jp Highlight this comment 322

Do you guys think they will get the game in tonight? I know they desperately want to, but can't really tell from the weather forecast.

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:40 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 323

Champions Club for $129, that is the lowest I have ever seen it. Just imagine, you get in, eat and drink, and then the game gets postponed! Bonus!

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:58 PM by tk Highlight this comment 324

$2.99 plus fees for seats in section 217 is pretty good. $8 each after fees.

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:06 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 325

Pair of Home Plate Terrace section 217 for 2.99 each. If I can't convince one of my friends to go, I'll just have a side table for my food.

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:12 PM by eskerber Highlight this comment 326

^^^PatMears

Ha! I bought :D

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:13 PM by eskerber Highlight this comment 327

Intellicast map is showing rain and snow moving down from the north. It might be yucky at the ballpark tonight. (clicky linky)

We need more days like Easter Sunday - it was a nearly perfect day for a ballgame!

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:19 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 328

Someone is out some money. HPB pack of 15 seats at $15/ticket

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:55 PM by tk Highlight this comment 329

Weather.com's radar forecaster shows it will be dry for the game. I stood outside for 4 hours yesterday while at and it wasn't too bad, that game should have been played, actually both of the postponments should have been played. I really don't care if they cancel games if it makes sense, but yesterday was a soft drizzle that baseball could easily been played in.

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:56 PM by Duffman Highlight this comment 330

Great start by Frankie....C'mon rain....SAVE US!

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 7:45 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 331


Posted on April 27, 2011 at 7:48 PM by Pics Highlight this comment 332

Where was that pick taken? Austrailia?

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:17 PM by Brian G Highlight this comment 333

this stiff once again proving the twins wisdom not to sign him to a multi-year deal. he's an overhyped head case. i'm sure we'll hear the weather excuse after the game by someone. after a few years in the big leagues and he still needs his hand held. pathetic. he's pitching for a team that excels at that.

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:25 PM by tim Highlight this comment 334

With a batting order that contains so many Rochester Red Wings, you can't afford to give up four runs before you record the first out.

And can anyone tell me just what in *&*^% is "bilateral leg weakness"? Does that mean he's not in shape? Does it mean his knee isn't healed and the other leg is having sympathy pains? Does it mean some neurological disorder? Why can't the Twins speak English?

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:40 PM by terry Highlight this comment 335

I am so glad the Twins focus on pitchers with great control and not power arms!

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:00 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 336

Will the Twins keep playing Drew Butera after his BA drops below .100?

To me, it looks like he's a .025 to .030 hitter.

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:19 PM by mj Highlight this comment 337


Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:30 PM by Pics Highlight this comment 338

I am going to stop going to games outdoors when it snows. First it was the Vikings/Bears killing, now it was a baseball ass whooping...

Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:48 PM by tk Highlight this comment 339

Thanks to all the people who wussed out and left the game early. I got a chance to work on action shots from a very good (but not quite ideal) angle. I will get them up over the next day or so, for now I got one up showing the extra effort from Michael Cuddyer. Linky Linky.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 12:19 AM by Jared Highlight this comment 340

I'm 3-0 on the season...

I'll carry us to two wins tomorrow.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 12:20 AM by mj Highlight this comment 341

I'm 0-3 this season and going to the day game, so something's got to give, mj....

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 12:39 AM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 342

Tosini and Swarzak on their way from Rochester.

I saw Swarzak's MLB debut against the Brewers.

7 scoreless innings.

he'll do the same tomorrow.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 12:41 AM by mj Highlight this comment 343

I think the only people still there at the end had to stay for the return buses.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 01:02 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 344

you can choose to believe this or not...(obviously)

but I had a stretch of 14 games at the dome, watching as a kid... where Hrbek hit a HR in every game, and the Twins won every game.

I was at the game where Hrbek, Bruno, Gaetti and Puckett each hit a HR.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 01:04 AM by mj Highlight this comment 345

^^Here's to hoping Hrbek comes out of retirement tomorrow!!

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 01:27 AM by tk Highlight this comment 346

If the Twins would win all three make-up games, we would be a 1/2 game out for 2nd place!!

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 01:31 AM by tk Highlight this comment 347

"An announced crowd of 36,714"

What a joke!

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 01:33 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 348

Yep, that must include the 1800+ tickets that went unused on Stub Hub...

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 01:38 AM by tk Highlight this comment 349

Since Butera is struggling, the Twins should go out and get themselves a back-up catcher....maybe trade for the Nationals catcher who's only batting .378

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 03:16 AM by tk Highlight this comment 350

mj - that little streak wouldn't have been about the time of the Twins' 15-game winning streak in June of 1991, would it? That was a good two weeks. Put the Twins in the playoff hunt after a pretty abysmal start that year. And we all know how that turned out.

Courtesy of Paul Douglas' blog on StarTribune.com this morning, the world is coming to an end in a little more than three weeks. I quote:

"Believers Warn Neighbors Of Impending Doom On May 21. To be honest I'm actually looking forward the Second Coming - hope it's not May 21, but who really knows? If I had to give odds I'd say there's an overwhelming probability this will NOT happen, but just in case, here's an article from Huffington Post and the Religious News Service: "(RNS) Give these billboards credit: They don't hedge their bet. Judgment Day is coming May 21, 2011 -- not sometime this decade, not sometime this year, but precisely on May 21. The hundreds of billboards warning unrepentant commuters of their impending doom are courtesy of a California radio station led by 89-year-old Harold Camping, who initially predicted the world would end in 1994. In New Jersey, about 30 believers paid to erect the signs in hopes of warning and saving their neighbors, said Bob James, a Morristown electrical engineer who organized the grassroots effort. "Seven billion people are facing their death! What else could I do?" said James, who views the billboards as a message of hope. "When you have this information, with my love for my fellow man, I wanted to tell people."

We'll know it's real if a) Brett Favre comes out of retirement, again b)the T-Wolves announce the franchise is folding c) the Vikings get funding for a new stadium

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 07:06 AM by luke Highlight this comment 351

There was not much energy in the crowd to begin with due to the weather but Liriano's performance, particularly, in the first inning pretty much set the tone of the night. The Twins didn't show up to play and you could easily tell they didn't want to be there last night. And if they could have postponed it, they probably would have even though they needed to get that game in.

I thought the Christmas music throughout the game was a nice little touch to make the fans laugh.

I have never seen so many empty seats at Target Field in its brief history. Last night was a preview of what we will see in future years when the Target Field honeymoon ends and the Twins are not as competitive. Minnesota fans just don't show up very well in April/May/September. Last night's attendance would have been 12K at the Metrodome I am sure.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 07:43 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 352

How many people who were there last night are going to be in any hurry to do that again? At least they never once ran the "everybody clap your hands" deal.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 07:53 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 353

I went to a game similar to last night last season: May 6. A Thursday night game against the Orioles (incidentally, the next game was cowardly "snowed out" by the Twins on the possibility of snow, which never came). It was a cold night, rained pretty much the entire time and I swear at least for about five minutes, there were snowflakes.

But, that's what outdoor baseball is all about, isn't it? That's good to hear that the "Everybody Clap Your Hands" wasn't played last night. I think it only ran once when I was there last Saturday. How was the music selection last night Ben?

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 08:32 AM by luke Highlight this comment 354

It was fun to watch on the new high-def tv last night, but my house is as close to that game as I wanted to be.

For those of you who stuck it out, I salute you.

Next scheduled game for me is May 23rd. I'm not expecting snow. ;-)

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 08:40 AM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 355

I enjoyed the snow with winter music last night. I dressed appropriately and had a better time than if I had watched the game on TV (no HD for me yet). I will go at lunch time for a little of the first game and after dinner for the second. $11 tickets makes it easier to enjoy any game.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 08:45 AM by buzz Highlight this comment 356

A retractable roof on TF, as it was envisioned, would have made little or no difference in fan or player comfort last night. Correct me if I'm wrong, but had the roof been built, it would not have completely enclosed the park for climate control. The only assistance it would have provided last night would have been to keep the negligible-but-newsworthy snowflakes out of the field-of-vision of the HD cameras, thus appeasing the ESPN-types like Steve Levy (who actually stated during the Twins' highlight last night, "Can we please bring back the Metrodome?"). Is that worth $100 million? Nope.

Man-up and grow a pair. I think we'd all much rather be known as hardy fans that can tolerate this unusal weather, than fans or a team that needs hands held in constant 68-degree comfort.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 08:45 AM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 357

Ben,

No, they did not do "Clap your hands"... but I did count an unprecedented 7...SEVEN... "Hey-oh" calls, including 4 back-to-back in the second inning.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 08:52 AM by eskerber Highlight this comment 358

One other thing on the hd tv -- you can really see Liriano's "deer in the headlights" look on the mound. It's like he just doesn't have a clue about pitching.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 09:02 AM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 359

Champions Club section D, row 3 were down to $75 just a moment ago for the noon game. Very tempting, but I'll stick with my section 137 row 4 and section 137 row 2 for both games today. Sneaky Petes in between the games!

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 10:13 AM by Visionsaul Highlight this comment 360

Oops. Section 10, row D. It's still early!!!

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 10:14 AM by Visionsaul Highlight this comment 361

I think I will wander in about the 3rd inning and may be at Petes by the 7th! LOL! Depends if the sun comes out latter or not! What a crappy spring man! 70 tommorow though!

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 11:03 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 362

I was at the game last night. Dressed appropriately and it wasn't bad at all -- as far as the weather goes. The effort by the Twins was abysmal. Left after 8 innings, but that was because of the game itself not the weather. Could have been 75 and sunny and probably still would have left to beat the light rail wait.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 11:04 AM by antifire Highlight this comment 363

The Yankees appear to have a major privacy problem. Click Name.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 11:21 AM by Tyler Highlight this comment 364

Soon to be ex yankee employee!

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 11:24 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 365

So, now the Twins acknowledge that Mauer wasn't ready to start the season. (clicky)

Anybody care to add 25-30 names to that list?...

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 12:51 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 366

Watching the game today, the field looks to be in horrible condition, even the areas that are not well traveled.

And I know I've said this before but Casilla sucks, his arm is weak, too weak to play shortstop and that error was horrendous. When the Twins are finally healthy he should be designated for assignment.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 1:01 PM by Duffman Highlight this comment 367

At least the Twins are consistent! They cant hit, pitch, or field.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 1:04 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 368

Casilla is a major liability. I've thought so since the beginning of spring training. And I'm not alone. This is from a recent column by Aaron Gleeman:

Speaking of Casilla, despite being a little-known role player, two prominent national writers recently had notes about him in their columns that featured scouts giving unflattering reports. One scout told Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.com that Casilla "is too out of control for me" and "he's more of a backup." Another scout told Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com that "you see his lack of instincts when he plays every day." Tough to argue with either assessment, unfortunately.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 1:10 PM by Rick 369

Frankie must have given Blackburn tips on how to pitch in cold weather.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 1:11 PM by Faber College Alum Highlight this comment 370

Can someone run some numbers for me?

Given a representative sample of pitches to a Twins Batter, On Average:
1. How many pitches does each at-bat last?
2. How many balls/strikes during each at bat?
3. What type of pitches?
4. How many were watched? **cough** Casilla**cough**
5. What type of pitch was swung at and when in the count?

There's many more I have that can make a good argument against their hitting... my point is these guys watch a ton of good pitches go by, don't defend the plate well and don't make good adjustments within an at-bat or within a game. That is all. #Frustrated

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 1:21 PM by Jared Highlight this comment 371

Pitching is a whole new topic. Can we get a guy that can hit the strike zone with some meat behind it? Sprinkling fairy dust on each pitch and wishing upon a star for strikes just isn't working anymore. :)

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 1:24 PM by Jared Highlight this comment 372

Jared,

Here are your batter pitch count numbers (clicky). About 2/3rds of the way down are the pitch count stats.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 1:38 PM by Tyler Highlight this comment 373

Wow Tyler, you didn't have to. That's a lot to digest and I will slowly over time once i can also compare to league averages and make some sense out of them. I was just venting a bit of frustration but I appreciate the effort. I retract my previous statements until further notice and just say "man, the twins can't buy a win right now."

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 2:03 PM by Jared Highlight this comment 374

The Twins players are a bunch of pansies that need to man up and get there ass back on the field. All these little injuries and guys miss games on end, i.e (bilateral vaginitis, flu, ribs, obliques's) I mean come on man, who misses a week with the flu. Gardy continues to pamper these pussies and let them get away with it. They should write there contracts that if you dont play you dont get paid and see how many games are missed.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 2:14 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 375

Do you think if I went down to TF with my glove and cleats, they would let me suit up? I couldn't possibly bat any worse, or embarrass them any more than they're doing right now.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 2:19 PM by Chad Highlight this comment 376

It's been obvious all along under Gardenhire.

The only team to win in the postseason was in 2002, and that was Gardenhire's first year, so can you argue it was Tom Kelly's team that he developed in 2000 and 2001 to make that run in 2002. Back than, there were actually some players on the team who were not afraid to speak up and show some aggression.

AJ Pierzynski, Torii Hunter, Johan Santana, Eddie Guardado, LaTroy Hawkins, JC Romero to name a few....all of those players showed emotion. Hell, even Kyle Lohse showed some emotion/anger towards Gardenhire.

It's funny how those players were not brought back to the Twins organization...

I would love to see Torii Hunter punch Justin Morneau or Joe Mauer right now or Johan Santana call out Kevin Slowey or Francisco Liriano.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 2:41 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 377

It's really sad listening to John Gordon say how well Mijares did by getting two guys out. (After getting those two outs, the next four guys got 3 hits and a walk off him!)

This is ridiculous.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 2:41 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 378

Mike - don't forget Garza

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 2:43 PM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 379

Anybody out there want to go to tonight's game and not have tickets yet?

Drop me a line: rick at you-know-the-drill.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 3:05 PM by Rick 380

I should add that I'm willing to trade five in 315 for one in Legends.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 3:11 PM by Rick 381

While it's mighty easy to be an armchair physician, I don't think I have ever had a strain of flu where I lost 15(!) lbs. If I did, I don't think it would be unheard of to miss most of a work week, especially if that job is being a PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE. Just my opinion.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 3:14 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 382

Badjuggler - I have and it wasn't pretty. And I am an already tall and slender guy so losing that much weight wasn't good. Felt pretty awful for quite a few weeks after I was considered flu free which also equated to quite a bunch of missed basketball practices.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 3:19 PM by Jared Highlight this comment 383

On my way back to the car this afternoon I thought I had a parking ticket for not putting enough quarters in the meter. Nope, just 2 Twins tickets to tonight's game...

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 4:01 PM by tk Highlight this comment 384

I failed to deliver a win. I'll try harder in the night game.

Posted on April 28, 2011 at 4:18 PM by mj Highlight this comment 385


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"You talk about the magic, the aura, but what really makes a stadium is the fans. Concrete doesn't talk back to you. Chairs don't talk back to you. It's the people who are there, day in, day out, that makes the place magic."

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Missing: imagination.



This is what will count as a knothole (actually, it's a gated entrance)



Pawlenty makes it official!



2014 Twins ASG promo bat.



The closed concession stand.






Dedicated closed-captioning ribbon board



Here is Seventh Street viewed from the west looking toward downtown. This will probably be the most pedestrian-friendly side (other than the plaza), but only if there is some psychological barrier between the people on foot and the people in their dangerously fast-moving automobiles.



I set up my late inning "office" at the drink rail behind section 206






Cushions!



Outside the Metropolitan Club, photos of all the other major league ballparks



Concept drawing for the fan/player appreciation wall. (Click to enlarge.)



For some inexplicable reason, a lot of the new parks being built these days feature grand staircases like this one.



The Metropolitan Club (click to enlarge)



JohnW provides this shot of a construction barricade on First Avenue



For those who have never seen it up close, that's what it looks like when steam comes out of the HERC plant.












North Loop Deli






Jose Alvalade XXI Stadium in Lisbon, Portugal has towers much like I'm imagining to hold up our canopy while also making a bold statement on the horizon



Quote wall



Work beneath the scoreboard



Click to see the whole, beautiful image. (Photo by Tyler Wycoff)



View from the batter's eye seats









The Ballpark Wall! (really stunning)



Bench seating just off the plaza






Photo by Tyler Wycoff



Evidence of a food court behind the seating above the batter's eye



Many people will approace the park from this direction and it's a pretty great first glimpse. It features all the design elements in modestly condensed form, and still manages to look like a ballpark (instead of something else).



Ullger warms up.



The right field overhang is in place, and the first base stands are starting to go in.















"Original" or "Dinger" Dog






The Switch



Scoreboard as viewed from Fifth Street.









Opening day, 2010








Glossary

BPM - Ballpark Magic

BRT - Bus Rapid Transit

DSP - Dave St. Peter

FSE - Full Season Equivalent

FYS - Fake Yankee Stadium (see also: NYS)

HERC - Hennepin Energy Resource Company (aka the Garbage Burner)

HPB - Home Plate Box

HRP - Home Run Porch

LC - Legends Club

LRT - Light Rail Transit

MBA - Minnesota Ballpark Authority (will own Target Field)

MOA - Mall of America

MSFC - Minnesota Sports Facilities Commission (owns the Metrodome)

NYS - New Yankee Stadium

SRO - Standing Room Only

STH - Season Ticket Holder

TCFBS - TCF Bank Stadium

TF - Target Field

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(2004, very large coffee table)
 


(2006, very large coffee table)
 


Combines the previous two titles
(2007, medium coffee table)
 

Selected Bibliography - Nostalgia
 


(1992)
 


Book and six ballpark miniatures
(2004)
 

Complete Bibliography

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