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Just Look

Don't Think

March 31, 2010 12:25 PM

Let's just look at this ballpark a little bit.

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I made a bunch of notes on Saturday of things to discuss, but I'd rather just look.

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Who could possibly have guessed, as recently as five years ago, that there would ever be baseball in that old rail yard?

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And that people would come by the thousands...

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What can you see from up there? Some say not much.


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...that bands would play...

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...and food and beverage would be consumed...

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Discovered on the upper concourse!

...that there would be places to sit...

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...and places to stand...

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...and that there would be a way to see even the things you cannot see (or would like to see again).

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The angle on the main scoreboard from the Batter's Eye is surprisingly good -- acceptable, at least.

I can't wait to see Our Team take the field here.

Back to Business

(Shaking head to return to reality.)

It's long been suggested that "hey, we should all get together!" Well, what better place to do it than at the ballpark? And what better place at the ballpark than the Overlook?

For those who are (like me) somewhat section-name-challenged (what the hell is a Terrace versus a Box versus a Deck versus a Porch anyway?), the Overlook is the part that sticks out over Michael Cuddyer's head, and it's one of the best deals -- economically speaking -- in the whole park. The seats, which are virtually impossible to come by, are only $22.

Well, TC Traders was able to come up with 59 seats in the overlook for the game against the Tigers on Tuesday, May 4 (special thanks to one of our ninjas for making this possible). I'm going to eat all of the processing charges and sell these tickets to you at exactly their face value.

The only catch is that I reserve the right to review the sales to make sure we've got actual site regulars instead of one-off scalpers. (You don't have to be a regular poster, but if I don't recognize your name, I may contact you by email just to verify your credentials.)

Here's how you can get your tickets:

Announcing BallparkMagic Night at Target Field


Come and see the Overlook (section 136) with your fellow fans! 59 tickets have been reserved in the first five rows just for us and are being sold here exclusively at face value with no fees! (We can talk later about where to meet before the game.)

Only $22 per ticket! (limit of 4 per person)

Qty:     Your comment name:    

TC Traders

There wasn't a big announcement, just a few mentions buried in the 1000-plus comments for the last post, but TC Traders is now up and running at full speed:

TCTraders.com

These tickets are listed by regular visitors here with the idea that everybody gets a chance to see a game from wherever they please, without having to pay scalpers or the scalper-like "convenience charges" of other ticket services.

Not everything is being sold at face value (though some are pretty close), but you should be able to save some real money over the other options out there. In many cases, tickets are being listed by season ticket holders, so delivery by email is available. As I write, there are 125 listings, totaling 377 tickets available.

You can browse tickets by game (and very soon by section as well) and make an offer on anything you see. Some members will consider trades of your tickets for theirs. You don't need to be a member to buy tickets, but if you plan to buy more than once, becoming a member will probably save you some money. Non-members pay a flat transaction fee of $12.95 for each purchase. Memberships with unlimited transactions (and no additional charges of any kind) start at just $29 per year.

Being a member has the additional benefit of giving you 48 hours for an exclusive first look at all tickets that are listed. After that time, they become available to anyone.

The other day a friend remarked with a sigh that, "I guess our days of easy access to Twins tickets are over." Well, that's what TC Traders is intended to alleviate. It's my hope that everybody can see a game from wherever they like this year, and I believe that we have enough folks here with spare tickets to make that possible.

If you have questions about this service, please feel free to contact me directly. I will continue working on enhancements over the coming weeks, and who knows what other features we'll be dreaming up.

More to Come

I'll leave you with one more opportunity to drool.

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Comments


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Awesome post, Rick!

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 12:28 PM by rback Highlight this comment 1

cant wait for friday, cant wait to see the glow of the grass and the jerseys!

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 12:34 PM by Sam L Highlight this comment 2

I'm in for Ballpark Magic night!

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 12:36 PM by PatMeares Highlight this comment 3

Rick - can you please disclose the exact location of where you found the turkey legs and corn on the cob...I need to know this!! ;-)

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 12:42 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 4

I already have tix for May 4, but maybe I'll stop by...I at least need to shake Rick's hand.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 12:43 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 5

I might make it to Ballpark Magic Night. I am going to the May 3rd game already. Two nights is a row gets tough. I'll run it by the wife...(my neck hurts..) ;-)

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 12:45 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 6

Rick - Make sure Shane knows about this, he and Alonzo should be there.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 12:46 PM by CJ Highlight this comment 7

It was a cart, not a concession booth, and I think it was about where the family section is (308-311-ish).

I did not have one only because I didn't want to be cleaning barbecue sauce off my camera...

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 12:46 PM by Rick 8

Thanks Rick! Those look amazing. They must be the same ones that I read about on MPR.com that they are only selling approx. 80 per game.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 12:48 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 9

excuse me...mpr.org

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 12:50 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 10

dang! we're already sitting in the trap that night, but i'll definitely stop by the overlook. btw, how freaking cool is it that these two "little neighborhoods" have names already? i don't like to brag, but i was the first one on this blog to recognize that and call them neighborhoods: http://www.ballparkmagic.com/July09c.htm.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 12:51 PM by yeahklye Highlight this comment 11

http://www.ballparkmagic.com/July09c.html

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 12:52 PM by yeahklye Highlight this comment 12

Good game on ESPN watching the Twins/Yankees right now.

Span is out of the game, after he fouled off a ball that hit his mother in the box seats. Span's mom did not seek treatment until going to the hospital in the 2nd inning. Span is on his way to hospital to check on his mom.

Hope she makes a speedy recovery.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 12:57 PM by TK Highlight this comment 13

Sweet work on the tickets Rick. I just purchased some - I'll be bringing along some long time readers.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 12:57 PM by IowaWigman Highlight this comment 14

Nice little Mischke column from today's City Pages on Target Field.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 12:59 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 15

I'd like to hit Jesse Crain's mother.... just kidding... maybe not.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 1:02 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 16

Got my order in Rick. Thanks dude!

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 1:08 PM by moda253 Highlight this comment 17

Question about emailing tickets: If I receive a number of tickets in an email, can I selectively email selected single tickets to others? In other words: Is it as simple as a pdf file attachment?(Looking to avoid the whole waiting at the gate for the last guy to show up routine.)

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 1:15 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 18

I would absolutely LOVE to go to the BallparkMagic night at TF, but we already have tix to the game on the 3rd and I can't see my wife approving this. :-) Oh well.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 1:22 PM by jpberka Highlight this comment 19

Rick--You're the king! You are right I believe that people will find that the seats in the Overlook are among the most desirable in the ballpark. There is a reason they are incredibly scarce for nearly every game all season. I am real excited to sit out there in T-52 hours...

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 1:24 PM by Max Highlight this comment 20

LOL TTH!!!!!! Anything we can do to get him out of the game!!!

Rick, I'm seriously considering a special trip up there to meet you and buy you a beer (I'm sure many will be buying you a beer so make sure you have a safe ride home).

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 1:26 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 21

Rick,

I was not able to get to TF on Saturday, but in your pictures of the concourse, the vending lines and people traveling to/from their seats seem to be a little crowded (better than dome by far).

I wonder if it had that feeling or if it was the pictures creating an illusion of crowded. I cannot imagine what it will look like when the place is full and until we get accustomed to the traffic flow/concession lines, and the traffic after the games.

Anything will be better than the dome, but it will be interesting to see where the bottlenecks will be (escalators), especially if many head towards the LTR.

I wonder if they will have markers on the floor to assist with crowd control for concessions. I remember this at one ballpark I once traveled to, but I cannot recall which one that was...

Only time will tell!

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 1:32 PM by TK Highlight this comment 22

ARGH! I would love to go to BallPark Magic night but I'll still be at school in Michigan... If this were 2 weeks later I would be there without a doubt!

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 1:41 PM by MattW Highlight this comment 23

Here's an unrelated clip but shows some great Met Stadium footage of the Vikes. Just seeing the old place was like seeing a long lost friend.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 1:43 PM by OldMetFan71 Highlight this comment 24

Another thing, Rick have you thought of extending TCTraders to other MN sports teams? wild, wolves vikings? Obviously it doesn't make sense to start now during the off season/ tail end of the season but once fall starts rolling around?

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 1:45 PM by MattW Highlight this comment 25

TK - long lines, etc, might have something to do with not having all concessions open. That would be my guess.

I don't know if I have seen it posted - what were the lines for the restrooms like?

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 1:46 PM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 26

Click my name to hear the organ.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 1:48 PM by bobby Highlight this comment 27

Unless the Metrodome organ was replaced at some time during the 80's/90's I'm now convinced that it's the organist that sucks, not the organ. If that's the same organ that Ronnie Newman played, I know that it's capable of playing many more keys than Sue uses. BORING SUE BORING!!!! The Twins need to find a real organist, not some sweet lady from a Lutheran Church.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 1:57 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 28

Met Fan,

Seeing the end of that game never gets old for me. Too bad the guy didn't include the hook and ladder play with Joe Senser and Teddy Brown which set up that hail mary. Poor Sam Ruttigliano looked like he was going to puke as he walked across the filed to the locker room.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 1:59 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 29

What's the deal with the major fees for buying tickets on TCTraders. I thought the concept was to have a site to buy and sell without getting soaked like you do at StubHub. I can't afford to buy enough tickets to make membership worthwhile. Thought I would bid on set of tickets here for Friday only to find out I will get nailed with a $12.95 fee. Seems just as excessive as other ticket sale sights. So instead of pretending you are doing everyone a favor, why not just be honest and admit that you're out to make a quick buck like everyone else.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:01 PM by jay Highlight this comment 30

TK - There was A LOT of people up milling around and just checking things out. During a normal game, a majority of those people will be sitting down. There was an interview with DSP in the PP yesterday and he said they learned a few things as far as concession and ticket lines backing up that caused congestion and that they are putting together some plans to help that.

After the two exhibition games this weekend, they will for sure even have more tweaks to lessen congestion, etc.

It is going to be fine. Double the width of the concourses and 25% less people.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:02 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 31

TK-

The lower concourse was packed to the point of being annoying, but that's because people were just walking around, taking it all in, rather than watching the game from a seat. The upper levels were pretty much empty.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:03 PM by Chad Highlight this comment 32

Beat by 1 minute! Doh.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:03 PM by Chad Highlight this comment 33

Kevin,

Did you see that the poster of those vids has about 8 of em? one being the miracle catch...WOW,what a game.

Would have loved to see a Vikes game at the Old Met. You'd think with our old neighbors uncle being Bud Grant and all, we could have gotten in...That was serious too.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:05 PM by OldMetFan71 Highlight this comment 34

Jay - Rick has a lot of time invested in this. That is money. Also, he needs to pay service charges to Pay Pal and credit card companies for every transaction. Plus, other misc costs. So think before you speak.

Get a membership, and then it is worth it.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:05 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 35

That organ sound was lame, sorry Sue. I think there is probably a lot more tone that could come out of that thing.

Need to find some Ronnie Newman clips.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:06 PM by OldMetFan71 Highlight this comment 36

We're not even promoting this yet, but since I asked you guys for feedback, thought you all deserved a sneak peek. So click on my name for my top 5 ballparks story.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:07 PM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 37

In jay's defense, the TCTraders is a bit overpriced if you are looking to just list or buy a ticket or two. It's a much better deal if you are buying or selling a bunch of games because the fees on places like StubHub and Ebay can add up quickly. So it really does work well for what it's intended for, just not for everyone.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:10 PM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 38

Rick - I don't post here too often, but I do follow the site regularly, and got turned onto this site before ground was ever broken. I just wanted to say thanks for putting your heart and soul into this, and it's been a lot of fun following this process over the past few years. *Almost* sad it's over now ;) It's fun to look back at some of the older articles where there may have been only a few posts, to now, when there was just over 1000! Again, kudos to you!

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:13 PM by B Highlight this comment 39

Found some of Ronnie Neuman's recordings...

Click my name for the link

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:16 PM by OldMetFan71 Highlight this comment 40

With so many posts, I do not have the time to sieve through to find the answer. Is there going to be live video on the scoreboard during play?

For instance, when I lose the ball in the left field corner, will I be able to see a play on the ball, or if I am on the Roof Deck and cannot see much of anything, but the screen, will I be able to watch the game :)

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:19 PM by TK Highlight this comment 41

Jay if TC traders isn't working for then why bag on Rick about it.

Reading your post I can see where you are seriously off base on several comments you made simply because you failed to read and understand the fees. Your loss though.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:25 PM by moda253 Highlight this comment 42

Maybe Sue was a little nervous. I have to say you can make a cheap organ sound pretty amazing if you know how to play it.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:26 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 43

Obviously not the instrument - assuming it's the same organ. Maybe it has something to do with the Twins' long time policy of paying as little as possible for any given job and they just lucky with Randy?

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:28 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 44

"Ronnie" - sorry.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:32 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 45

"TC" behind home plate is getting painted on right now. Wonder if they will the the "TC" for the exhib. games and then "Twins" for the home opener...

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:32 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 46

Rick - another great post!

I would absolutely love to go to Ballpark Magic night but in addition to being teacher of the year, I also coach 8th grade baseball and we have a game that night, so I won't be able to come up. I hope you all have a blast, drink some beers, and I will hope to see some of you at the games I am going to be at. (Only 6 games, but better than none. There are drawbacks to being married with kids and living 90 minutes away from One Twins Way)

Maybe May 4th could be Luke's bachelor party too! From what I read, things have been progressing quite nicely for the young man.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:32 PM by Ole Highlight this comment 47

RE: Organ Music

I listened to that clip and my immediate thought was...Please play something new!!! That was a vintage Metrodome riff. We have turned the page and are opening a brand new ballpark. Just play something new. Something unique. Something original. Leave the memories of the Metrodome in the past. I was at the Gophers game on Saturday and didn't hear the organ. But I imagine that is because it wasn't memorable. I sure hope the Twins are reading and taking notice as I believe the organ music (especially before the games) can add a great touch to Target Field.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:34 PM by Max Highlight this comment 48

Genius Ole. Or perhaps Luke could propose to Joni in the Overlook with all his longtime pals from BallparkMagic there to bear witness. This could be memorable Luke! C'mon you big stud.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:36 PM by Max Highlight this comment 49

I wonder how many dedicated T-Wolves fans will be hard pressed when they will not be able to find parking when they go to the April 12 game against San Antonio?

Or have to fight the crowds as the Twins game is letting out. I am sure that will be a headache for traffic officials with competing egress and regress traffic. Maybe it is a good thing the T-Wolves have not won in March...

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:43 PM by TK Highlight this comment 50

Never mind, it's at San Antonio...I should just stick to baseball talk!

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:44 PM by TK Highlight this comment 51

It's nice to hear some other folks who dislike the "Metrodome" organ and/or the style of Sue Nelson.

It's just too gimmicky what she plays and does not sound like true baseball organ music.

Why does she never play (or why don't the Twins allow it) Patriotic music during pre-games on Memorial Day, 4th of July, Armed Forces Day, Patriot Day, etc?

I am disappointed to say the least after hearing that clip at Target Field last weekend.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:44 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 52

Poor Span - this happened at today's game:

TAMPA, Fla. (AP)—Minnesota Twins leadoff man Denard Span(notes) hit a hard foul ball that struck his mom in the chest during Wednesday’s game. She was treated by paramedics and back in the stands minutes later.
Wanda Wilson was wearing a Span jersey and sitting with about 20 family members and friends near the third-base dugout. Span took a defensive swing in the first inning and hit a liner right at her in the box seats.
A stunned Span sprinted into the stands and stayed with his mother while she was treated. The split-squad game against the New York Yankees was delayed for a few minutes as she walked to first aid, and the Twins said she was sore but OK.
Span returned to the plate and struck out on the next pitch. The Twins originally said Span would leave the game, but his mother was sitting in a different seat by the bottom of the first inning and he went to play center field.
Span flied out in the second inning, then left in the bottom of the third, telling a team official he wasn’t mentally into the game. Span and his mother spent time together after he departed.
The AL co-leader in triples last season was born and raised in Tampa. Span regularly volunteers to make the long trip from the Twins’ spring training home in Fort Myers when Minnesota visits the Yankees so he can see his family.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:51 PM by Ole Highlight this comment 53

First, let me say that I appreciate all comments on TC Traders. They will help me improve it over time. Nothing is set in stone.

But keep in mind that it's a club, designed to serve its members. One way it does this is by allowing non-members to purchase tickets (because that provides a larger audience of potential buyers, and some sellers wanted that).

To get at why it's set up the way it is, here's my personal experience on StubHub:

Bought 2 tickets @ $25 each. With fees and shipping it came to $71.95. Yes, my fees and shipping were $21.95 or 31% of my total purchase price. On top of that, the seller paid $7.50 (15%) to StubHub for the privilege of selling them.

I decided then and there that I would never do that again.

On TC Traders, I could have bought those same tickets as a non-member for $62.95, already a 12% savings. I could also have become a member for another $12.66 and enjoyed unlimited free transactions for a year. And either way, once a member, the seller pays nothing more.

As somebody said, it may not work for everybody, but it's a club, and the real benefits are seen by its members. (And, by the way, if you take the dollars earned against the hours spent, I'd be better off hosing down Target Plaza for a living.)

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:55 PM by Rick 54

That organ does remind me too much of the Metrodome. Put a permanent stage in the Twins Pub with a nice state-of-the-art organ. It looked way too makeshift when I saw it in the corner during the open house.

I am also all for hearing an organ between innings and before the game. It'd be kind of like walking through the gates of Disney World as a kid and hearing the "magical" music. Instead, while fast forwarding through the Gophers broadcast to get those organ clips (click my name), I heard Miley Cyrus, Ke$ha, Metro Station and Taylor Swift. Keep that shit out of the ballpark!!!

One very nice selection was "Beast of Burden" during a pitching change. Stay with that flavor.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 2:56 PM by bobby Highlight this comment 55

Yeah! keep that new music out of this ballpark. It's too fast and it confuses me and makes me want to do the devils work!

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 3:03 PM by moda253 Highlight this comment 56

I wonder if some of the pop music during the Gopher game was the Gophers' selection. Some of it sounded familiar from games at Siebert. Agreed about the organ: different, fuller sound would be much better.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 3:06 PM by fiesta Highlight this comment 57

I think they should play nifty little ragtime numbers between innings. They're the bee's knees.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 3:09 PM by strategery Highlight this comment 58

Let me get this straight we didn't want to build a fake old time ballpark but we want to play music from the rag time era in our new modern facility? I don't mind some organ and all but sorry give me something with a little life too. Note: Miley Cyrus should never Ever be played in our ballpark.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 3:14 PM by moda253 Highlight this comment 59

I think the only music that should be allowed in the park is the smooth tones of the Mortenson Construction Choir!

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 3:20 PM by ew Highlight this comment 60

Gregorian chants.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 3:26 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 61

Oh, and if they play Friends In Low Places with the lyrics scrolled on the videoboard Friday, I might puke.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 3:27 PM by bobby Highlight this comment 62

I agree Bobby, it gets old

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 3:30 PM by Sam L Highlight this comment 63

I already have my tickets to TF, but id rather purchase from TCTraders if i need tickets, its nice to know the fees up front rather then saying "your total" then add fee after fee without having any idea before hand what the fees will amount to.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 3:34 PM by Sam L Highlight this comment 64

"Stand Up and Shout" needs to go on the shelf -- for about a year.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 3:41 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 65

rback and 2bb are in for May 4, and crossing our fingers there is not a conflict - still have some pending games/practices to get to.

Luke - we can car pool. Even have enough room for Joni! :-)

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 3:47 PM by 2bb Highlight this comment 66

nice pictures. i want to thank you for all of the pictures as the twins have done a terrible job providing any. i am incredibly excited about the stadium and you have helped me get my fix of the Twins for the past few months.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 4:05 PM by jacksotw12 Highlight this comment 67

Who's starting on the mound for the Twins on Friday?

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 4:13 PM by st. paul Paul Highlight this comment 68

Check out #5...Tom Verducci has been added to my hit list, just below billy madison.

Clicky, Clicky.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 4:24 PM by N.D. (aka N.D. "Rube") Highlight this comment 69

I heard it was Pavano for Friday, and if they stick with their spring training order, that would mean Slowey for Saturday.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 4:25 PM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 70

Wow Tom Verducci! Idiot. What do you have against Billy Madison though? He along with Ace Ventura and Happy Gilmore molded me into the man I am today.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 4:32 PM by Brandon T Highlight this comment 71

Hooray for a new post! Thanks as always for the pics from the game. I really hope the concourse isn't that crowded this weekend.

I already have tix for 5/4 but I am seriously debating selling them so I can get TC Trader overlook pics and meet some of you guys. I always like to put a face to a name.

Rick, one quick question. How do you decide which pics to shrink and which to post full size clickable? I love using pics from here to change my work pc background, but the last one doesn't give the greatness because it is too small.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 4:35 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 72

Brandon T, it was a joke from Billy Madison. Don't you remember when Steve Buscemi's character had the hit list?

As for this joker, he clearly thinks we have winter here all but 2 months out of the year. What a moron.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 4:39 PM by jpberka Highlight this comment 73

Rick - great pix as usual. Pretty soon, I'm going to have to start changing my desktop wallpaper almost every day. There are some great ones.

I do hope that the crowded nature of the concourse seen in some of those pics is alleviated once the regular season starts. It almost reminded me of the Metrodome...blah.

I also agree with the comments about the organ music. Agree with those who think it's too Dome-esque. A while back, someone posted a vid from pregame at Dodger Stadium, now THAT is good stuff.

Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend the game on May 4. Got appointments that day, and other errands. Won't have time for baseball :( .

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 4:40 PM by luke Highlight this comment 74

I didn't see a post from anyone - unless it was in the last one before Rick put a new one up, but...I see Delta on the sign above the Trap.

Am I too late on that revelation?

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 4:43 PM by luke Highlight this comment 75

ah! Forgot. Tushe'

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 4:45 PM by Brandon T Highlight this comment 76

I agree with the Verducci-hate regarding his uninformed weather opinion, but look who he picked to win the American League -

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 4:47 PM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 77

One thing we should all keep in mind in regard to the outdoor baseball v. roof debate is that the Twins MUCH preferred a roof and would have included one in a heartbeat had things gone their way.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 4:47 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 78

I read Verducci's comment as meaning:

"MLB and Fox should have split the cost of the roof if no one else was willing to pay for it."

From a network executive's point of view (which any SI columnist has a firm grasp of, and prioritizes above others), I can see it.

If baseball is primarily a TV show, then you need to make sure every game gets played. So you build a frickin' studio -- which is what a retractable roof stadium becomes.

I think we can all agree that baseball may be a TV show to some extent, but Target Field takes a stand in saying that the first and most important audience is sitting in the stands.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 4:47 PM by Rick 79

Yeah luke in other news it has been learned that we landed on the moon.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 4:48 PM by moda253 Highlight this comment 80

CSG Mike,

I link to the large version if I think anyone might care about the detail. On these, I thought maybe some people might see themselves or somebody they know.

If you like a picture, let me know and I'll upload the large version.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 4:48 PM by Rick 81

"One thing we should all keep in mind in regard to the outdoor baseball v. roof debate is that the Twins MUCH preferred a roof and would have included one in a heartbeat had things gone their way."

The Twins may have wanted a roof, but I am forever grateful that they didn't get one....

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 4:51 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 82

roofs take away something from an outdoor park, its not the same, especially Miller Park

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 4:58 PM by Sam L Highlight this comment 83

re game music: Metallica live from the Bud deck.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 5:08 PM by Jax Highlight this comment 84

"The Twins may have wanted a roof, but I am forever grateful that they didn't get one...."

A sentiment that is not at all difficult to find on this site, and elsewhere. Regurgitating the spin the team puts on the overall deal is just what the Twins hope for. But, what do you suppose would be going on if the new ballpark was still a marvel albeit larger, uncramped, located elsewhere surrounded by acres of Twins controlled real estate, and had a state of the art retractable roof? Would all the Kool-Aid drinkers be creaming their jeans over that or would they be saying an open park shoe-horned into a too tight spot next to a garbage burner was better?
Think about it.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 6:00 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 85

Could we have gotten a better location and a roof? Maybe, but I am happy and content with what we have. Imagine if we were still trying to pass a ballpark bill in today's environment. Remember as a kid when you wanted $10 from your parents but knew that wasn't going to fly so you asked for $5. You went out and spent it and were happy to have it. I agree with other posters that a retractable roof is not as appealing to the eye as a true open air stadium. I'll take our stadium over the contraption they have in Milwaukee any day of the week.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 6:38 PM by twinsfan34 Highlight this comment 86

Ben...

i don't know what stadium fight you were following for the 10 years we were at the legislature scratching this deal out - but last time i checked, none of what you are suggesting was ever anywhere near passing.

after 10 years of fighting, working, adapting... we, the fans of the Twins and of outdoor baseball are "creaming our jeans" because given everything we had to go through to get this deal done, all the compromises we had to make, all the sacrifices, all the deals... we ended up with a first class effing ballpark

and the biggest compromise to get this deal done was to lop 110 million off the price tag by taking off a feature many of us were never too keen on in the first place... win/win.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 6:43 PM by CJ Highlight this comment 87

What a beautiful park. It looks even better with fans.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM by Lafferty Highlight this comment 88

As if the Twins' website could get worse, I notice that the animated seat views page is gone and the single game ticket page is all messed up. Improvements on the way, perhaps?

And, does anybody know the answer to my emailed tickets question from earlier... If I receive emailed tickets, can I selectively send one on to a buddy joining me for the game? to avoid the need to wait at the gate. In other words, are they just .pdf file attachments?

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 7:43 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 89

I am yet to once smell the garbage burner. I realize it is there, but I have been around and around the park over the last few years as it was being built and I've now been in it a couple times including last weekend and I still haven't smelled it. With the typical ballpark smells, I think it is only going to be more difficult to smell the burner. Ben, what exactly is your damage tonight?

Luke, I thought you went to the park already. There is precisely NOTHING dome-like about the concourse crowd. Nothing even close. Lines will still exist, but I won't be pressed against a concrete wall while waiting for my wife to use the bathroom anymore either.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 7:53 PM by jpberka Highlight this comment 90

Re the animated seating views you would think that quite awhile ago they could have taken photos from every row in the park and posted them to the site like they had in the dome. It was a big selling point when selecting seats online there.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 7:57 PM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 91

Anyone else notice that ESPN has picked up the home opener on April 12 as their prime game?

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 7:59 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 92

"but I won't be pressed against a concrete wall while waiting for my wife to use the bathroom anymore either."

Been there and done that a gazillion times..Northstar question..We took it for the Open House and really liked it from Big lake..For the Opener the LAST train leaving is 6:15..period. No 30 minutes after last pitch but 6:15..Game starts at 3:10...I am no way no how for any game going to leave early to catch the train..What's up with that? Guess I'll be driving..

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 8:18 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 93

I think another thing that has to be talked about is that we were so close to losing our beloved franchise, so if you take that into consideration and the fact we got a new stadium designed for the Twins, it is amazing that the first game is less than 2 weeks away.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 8:22 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 94

Re garbage burner:
I smelled it a bit when on the rooftop deck, but only for a second.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 8:22 PM by rback Highlight this comment 95

Anybody ever order tickets from ticketking? I ordered tickets for OD in early Feb. and still havent recieved them, starting to get a little nervous.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 8:23 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 96

I posted this on the TCTraders site - but I figured I would put it out as bait on the comments too.

I have two tickets in Section 324 to Saturday, April 17th versus the Royals...but I am not sure I can go...so I am looking to possibly trade with someone who has tickets to the Sunday game, or a game later in the season.

Also willing to sell if the right situation occurs. Feel free to email me, reply on the comments, or reply on TCTraders if interested. Thanks!

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 8:28 PM by StatFreak101 (Erik) Highlight this comment 97

I know people that have dumped garbage in the burner, they say they've never smelled anything, its only been hot, and its never really smelled anyways, don't think it will be a problem, only thing is the mist it sends to the ground that may get annoying

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 8:52 PM by Sam L Highlight this comment 98

Anyone know when the actual gates will open for games? Was at TF on Saturday for Gopher Game and was very impressed with everything about the stadium and the atmosphere and it was only a college game.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 8:57 PM by Bruce Highlight this comment 99

Love seeing pictures, i agree the music they played was terrible! they need to keep that stuff out! I just need to get may 4th off and i think i can go

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 9:03 PM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 100

Welp bought two tickets for may 4th, it's enough time for me to take off anyway. Will be fun to meet everyone!

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 9:09 PM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 101

Ben-

I would never "cream in my jeans" if the Twins decided to go with a retractable dome. I've ALWAYS hated them, and my trip to Miller Park a while back only reinforced my opinion. Even though the roof was open, it still felt "indoors".

I'm old enough to remember going to games at the old Met and, yes, occasionally I had to wear a light jacket but it never bothered me. Besides a retractable dome wouldn't have kept the cold out, just the rain and over the 20 years the Twins played outdoors, they only averaged 3.5 rainouts a season....not NEARLY enough to justify altering the ballpark experience.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 9:11 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 102

The fiance and I got in one of your pics Rick!

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 9:12 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 103

Well, jp...it was just an observation from the pix above. I agree, when I went to TF for the open house, it was very un-Dome-like in the concourses, it just looked a little crowded in Rick's pic up there.

I got an email today from the Twins boasting about the "Skyline Suites"...just out of curiosity, I clicked on "buy tickets", and they listed some as available, but there wasn't a notation on the seating chart where they are located...The Party Suites are one thing, but, where are the Skyline Suites?

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 9:13 PM by luke Highlight this comment 104

Just a friendly suggestion that if you're in the mood for buffalo wings before or after the games, head to Runyon's at the corner of Washington & First Ave. Best in town.

And don't worry, they're rarely busy so I want to keep them in business. Oh, and the beer is always ice cold. Enjoy.

K

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 10:24 PM by Kramer Highlight this comment 105

Hey everyone,
Went downtown for a T-wolves game (free lower level, center court tickets) and snapped a few shots at TF. Only posted 4, but a few raise some questions. One is of some of the banners (blue for division titles, white for AL titles and, red for World Series). The other two are of what appears to be the setup of light rail crowd control line. Can any of you who went to the gopher game confirm that this is the setup from game day? How did it go? Did trains load from one or both sides? Seems as if there could be some issues with this.

Oh and TK, you will want to have a looky at what I found...

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 10:37 PM by Jared Highlight this comment 106

Luke - let me respond to two of your posts this evening.

#74: "Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend the game on May 4. Got appointments that day, and other errands. Won't have time for baseball" I think that most of us will have appointments that day. It's a good thing that it's a night game. I hope to meet you and Joni at the game.

#104: "The Party Suites are one thing, but, where are the Skyline Suites?" The original plan was to have private suites on the suite level run all the way down the third base side to the the admin building. With Suite sales sluggish they converted the last several suites into two oversized suites and named them the Skyline Suites, one for 46 people and one for 50 people. They can be combined by opening a partition and serve 96 people. At the Dome, the Terrace Suite in left field was for groups only. The Terrace Suite on the first base side was season (20 game packages) and single game ticket sales only. The Skyline Suites at Target Field are a cross between the two Terrace Suites. For some dates, they are group sales only. For other dates you can purchase individual tickets in the Suite. Included with your ticket cost is a food buffet in the suite as well as two drink tickets. They are selling the tickets for the two Exhibition games for $92.50 each.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 10:52 PM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 107

Jared, there was no such setup for last weekend. It seems pretty clear that this is what they are planning for the weekend based on your photograph. Friday will be the real first run. Last weekend had over 30,000 but they were spread over a whole day. This will be a far different experience from last weekend, so nobody really knows yet.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 10:56 PM by jpberka Highlight this comment 108

You know, there's no photography sleight-of-hand up there. Those concourses look crowded because they were crowded. Every time I stopped for even a second to take pictures like that (I have, I think, four sets), I would get jostled from behind to keep moving.

But I don't think that's what it will be like at Twins games because way more people will actually be watching the game than gaping at the new ballpark.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 10:58 PM by Rick 109

I would also point out that there will be far more people enjoying the upper concourse during actual games and things will even out a bit more. For those that haven't checked it out, the upper concourse is actually a very nice space. All the same, while I understand no sleight of hand, that was still far less stuffed appearing, even in the photo, than what we would often experience in the Dome. And with the concourse being open, it seemed there was always a way to drift to the outside of a crowd.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 11:02 PM by jpberka Highlight this comment 110

Click name to see me getting turkey leg at the Gopher game.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 11:02 PM by Buzz Highlight this comment 111

Some interesting stuff down at Target Field today, which I took pictures of (click my name for the link to the photo gallery). For one thing, they've added plaques for all the Twins Hall of Fame members, organized by the year they were inducted. These are on the fencing across from the glass ballpark history display near 7th Street, around the corner from the team history plaques and Tradition Wall. I hadn't heard anything about these plaques, so I was really surprised, but they're a very nice touch! I snapped pictures of Blyleven and Radke as examples.

A lot of activity in the Target Field neighborhood too. They appeared to be taking down(?) the "Outdoor Baseball Is Closer Than You Think" ad that faced Target Plaza that was in the windows of the Target Center (the one with the extra RF foul pole with 800+ foot distance). Only some of the panels were missing from the windows, but someone was up on a ladder within the window working on it. Not sure why this would be coming down, unless it has something to do with the lawsuit regarding ads at Target Center...

I grabbed a photo of the brand new Huberts sign. Not too exciting, but its there and its very visible to fans entering Target Plaza from 1st Ave. Interestingly, the NBA City signage was still up too, but they still seem to be working on things there. I peeked inside the windows and the placed looked very nice.

Finally, City Center had some ads being put up on the Hennepin Ave side of their building advertising the parking ramp there as a good place to park. Definitely marketed to Twins fans, they did a good job on the signage.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 11:06 PM by FPM2K Highlight this comment 112

luke,

you keep dodging the subject....we all want to know about you and joni!!! did you take the old one-eye to the optometrist? Did you take the skin boat to tuna town???? Did ya show her your cannelloni?? Hey, that rhymes with Joni!!!

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 11:33 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 113

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but I was able to see today through Gate 6 that the trap advertising space not only has Delta (which is visible on the webcam), but also includes ads for Target and Mortensen Construction. There might also be a 4th sponsor on the far left that I couldn't see.

Posted on March 31, 2010 at 11:35 PM by brent Highlight this comment 114

wow... some of you guys are worse than a junior high locker room with how much you get on luke... let it go.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 12:22 AM by CJ Highlight this comment 115

let it go CJ...Isn't it past your bedtime? Prudes are usually in bed before midnight.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 12:31 AM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 116

CJ ---

My comments had nothing to do with the "stadium fight", but rather what the Twins would have preferred for the ultimate outcome. I don't believe there is any question that we would have a completely different scenario today had the team had unlimited funds to draw upon. Rain and other weather related delays are not cost effective for TV and TV runs pro baseball.

jpberka --

Nowhere in my comments did I say anything about anything smelling. I was making a location reference. Instead of "garbage burner" I might just as well have written "bowery" or "rail yard" - you missed the point entirely.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 12:44 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 117

funny what a guy misses here when he doesn't visit or post for a couple days. man, some of you are growing up too fast! and to think just a few years ago some of you were probably feeling up a girl for the first time and now you are "all growsed up" and getting your man muscles. time sure does fly!

it is late.....i am drunk. don't usually do the drunk posts here. like to leave that to our boy maz! ;-)

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 12:45 AM by Betaband Highlight this comment 118

ben........please just close your trap. you don't know what the twins wanted. the same way you don't know what the majority of twins fans wanted. you are doing nothing but assuming and you know what they say about folks who assume too much right?!

anyways, you are totally kiling whatever buzz i have left from my night out with the boys. shush! ;-)

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 12:48 AM by Betaband Highlight this comment 119

Again --- what "the majority of twins fans wanted" has absolutely nothing to do with anything I have written. And, I believe the record is clear that the Twins settled for less than they had hoped for.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 01:07 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 120

And you know what Ben...Let's say you're right...And I'm not saying you're right or wrong...But let's say you're right...You know what? I can live with that if the Twins had to settle for less than they had hoped for. Us Twins fans have had to settle for less that what we have hoped for this team for the past 10 years. Division titles are nice but if the fans have had to settle many times for less that expected, than so can the Twins this time. I for one am amazed at TF (despite the Overhang/RF debacle) and it has far exceeded my expectations. Why might you ask? Because I knew the Twins were in charge of the operation and I guess I just expected less out of them. But they sure have lived up to my expectations with Sue the organist.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 01:12 AM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 121

benjamin - here is the important part that you don't really seem to GET.......no one really cares!

good night and good luck.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 01:17 AM by Betaband Highlight this comment 122

one last thing. does anyone have that smug, little prick tom verducci's email address? he needs to be put in his place real quick.

thanks

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 01:19 AM by Betaband Highlight this comment 123

Hopefully Beta's hangover will only last a day. If not maybe he'll give his tickets away for Friday's game.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 01:21 AM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 124

I have no issue with TF aside from the imperfections that have been noted here lately - as a matter of fact, I think it's the best thing to happen for the sports fan in this region for ages. Yet again, anything else was not my point. And, as far as "Twins fans have had to settle for less that what we have hoped for this team for the past 10 years." --- I attended the first game the Twins ever played, and countless others since - if you want to discuss being a Twins fan through thick and thin, I'm your man!

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 01:38 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 125

Oh Ben...Try being a Viking fan since 1961 like me. You want agony?? I've got agony!

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 01:50 AM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 126

Jared, Thanks for the pic :) Good to know that I am between MEI and a local Teamsters :) I am wondering if I should go on a rant that my wife and I, are stuck between "Advertisement" on the Tradition Wall?

Jared, Thank you for the weather updates. I went out and purchased are full rain suit's tonight. I hope I will not have to break them in yet, but better to be prepared.

I am actually looking forward to games with bad weather, better chance to get closer to the action without paying the premium prices :)

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 02:42 AM by TK Highlight this comment 127

I will say this all you people should be happy that we have baseball here no matter how you have to see it. What we have is what we have. Its not gonna change since it cant due to the land its built on. Not like you gonna move the ball park somewheres else. Oh heey I would like it to be out by the moa like it used to be with tailgaiting and all. But aint gonnna happen.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 04:14 AM by Leroy Highlight this comment 128

Kevin, I think most of us here are both Vikings & Twins fans, so the agony is shared by most of us. ;-)

Ben, imperfection of the site is an amusing way of putting things. Why would you bring up the garbage burner unless you were bringing up the smell? After all, parking garages aren't stunningly beautiful neighbors and you didn't bring up the ramps. I would call the rail yard an asset and not an imperfection, but that's me.

As for site imperfection, the "natural" oddities of great ballparks are created by such imperfections. Simply look at left field in Fenway Park as an example. Fenway was built on such an imperfect location. What's worse, parks that were built on every bit as much land as they've needed made strange choices to appear as though they too were built on imperfect sites. They create strange features that generally only exist when a park has to work with what it has. These features don't work when one knows that they aren't needed. This is the great thing about baseball parks. They build to their location more than any other sports park.

What you refer to as imperfection is what fans of the architecture of baseball parks might very well refer to as character and charm. This is my issue.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 06:33 AM by jpberka Highlight this comment 129

"The other two are of what appears to be the setup of light rail crowd control line"
Jared, i was at the gophers game last weekend and i took the light rail to and from the game and despite what someone else said, indeed this was the setup last weekend, you can only enter the light rail thru that gate, and they have security there that will check everyones ticket before they let u pass, and they also have security in front of the trains that will point people to get on a certain car thats not as full as others, so indeed that was and is the setup for all the games, so be prepared to line up in the promenade instead of in front of the tracks, in my opinion i kinda like this idea, others may not

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 06:55 AM by rolo Highlight this comment 130

thank you clublevelfan...I didn't know they had done that.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 06:57 AM by luke Highlight this comment 131

Thanks TK and Rolo.

I can see some issues potentially arising with people jumping the line and such because of all of the potential foot traffic through that area. Not to mention the fences. I am sure they will have security people all along there not only to watch for that but to fill people in down the train. Sending the line on to the promenade certainly makes sense since there seems to be way less traffic in that area on game day.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 07:17 AM by Jared Highlight this comment 132

Oh and I should mention that the promenade was marked off with caution tape and cones and smelled heavily of spray paint. Almost as if they had sprayed a sealant or different color on the cement. However, It was late and pretty dark last night and hard to tell which is the case.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 07:19 AM by Jared Highlight this comment 133

Rolo, it was me who said that, and I must admit I just recalled that I didn't even get off and on at that stop, but at the 1st Ave stop as I walked down toward Kieran's and also entered & exited at Target Plaza. I suppose I would simply say that if one wants to avoid that scene, the 1st Ave stop had none of these controls.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 07:24 AM by jpberka Highlight this comment 134

I for one am glad they are making us line up to get on the LRT in a more organized manor. I think it will actually help things move faster. The Mr and I went to a game with his brother and his kids last summer and the way you could just swarm and fill the trains at the Dome made me nervous I was gonna lose my niece in the crowd. I think there will be less of this mob like action with everyone lined up, and there were several security people along the fence line so I don't think there would be much chance of people hopping over it. Everything seemed much more thought out for loading and unloading the trains at TF than it ever was at the Dome.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 07:49 AM by Bandgeek Highlight this comment 135

I think the best way to deal with the lines at the LRT station is simple: Don't be in a hurry to leave. Hang out for 30 minutes after the game, have another "pop" and by then, the line should be MUCH more manageable. A train leaves the station every 10 minutes, right? What's the rush?

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 08:28 AM by Fred Highlight this comment 136

Target Field would not have happened without Shane at Greet Machine. Click my name to read my tribute. Leave any comments if you visited Greet Machine in its ballpark touting heyday.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 08:30 AM by Freealonzo Highlight this comment 137

Well friends...just had a weather look. The only update, rain amounts have increased to .2" to up to .5" in the heavier areas between friday afternoon and Saturday morning. First pitch is ever more looking a little damp.

This looks like our first good opportunity as fans to throw a big "roof? we don't need no stinking roof" party. We will pack TF in the rain and collectively say "screw you" (to put it politely) to all those who whined about the weather. Insert Bluto and German's bombing Pearl Harbor quote with relevant baseball reference. Who's With me?

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 08:34 AM by Jared Highlight this comment 138

I'll be there no matter what...It will be like the pastor from Caddy Shack. We will battle through to the end.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 08:51 AM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 139

Yep not looking too good for the game tommorow! What will be the procedure for rainouts for regualar season games? Double headers Day Night? I remember back in the old met staduium days the Twins would schedule about 4-5 double headers per year! Made for some long days and nights at the old ballpark! I think Calvin would have rather had day night doubleheaders as he wanted that additional gate money!

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 08:55 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 140

Here's a trip down amnesia lane - hard to believe this was 25 years ago. Happy April everyone!

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 08:58 AM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 141

Wow! I hate the national media. The Today Show just called Denard Span, Derick Span!

Brings back memories of an MVP winning the home run derby being called "Jason Morneau"

Embarrassing.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 09:00 AM by Brandon T Highlight this comment 142

Twinfan-

MLB doesn't like to schedule doubleheaders any more if they don't have to because they can't make as much money of them...Nowadays, they like to re-schedule rain outs on the open dates.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 09:08 AM by Fred Highlight this comment 143

Anybody watch the Twins vs. Yankees yesterday on ESPN? Gary Thorne must have made 3-4 name mistakes when speaking of Twins players. It really is annoying.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 09:17 AM by Steeks Highlight this comment 144

TwinkFan, I believe Jared was not claiming a rain out. I believe he was predicting a game in the rain. I have a feeling he will be right. A game will be played tomorrow unless it becomes a deluge.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 09:25 AM by jpberka Highlight this comment 145

Hi all

Just happened on to this site while looking for more pics of TF, i am so disappointed i didnt find it sooner! Season ticket holder since 2007 and twins fan since 1984 when i started collecting baseball cards at age 7. I have been to Open House and Gopher game, cant wait for the opener, i am so damn excited, I have spent the last 3 days reading through these posts rather than working (don't tell my boss).

Anyhow, just wanted to introduce myself, i plan on reading more and probably signing up for TCtraders as well. Keep up the good work everyone, i love it.

Thanks

Thrillhouse

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 09:25 AM by Thrillhouse Highlight this comment 146

And another thought on playing in the rain: Rain on a wedding day is supposed to be good luck. Think of tomorrow as the wedding day for the Twins and Target Field. Baseball in the rain. What better way to come back to the elements than dealing with them and completing a game so the rest of the world will see we're cool with it??

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 09:27 AM by jpberka Highlight this comment 147

Welcome Thrillhouse...you have aaaaalllllooooottttt of reading up to do...

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 09:32 AM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 148

The weather says that there is a 60% of "scattered showers and thunderstorms"... You can also take that as there is a 40% chance that we will be completely dry as well....Color me optimistic.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 09:33 AM by Fred Highlight this comment 149

I don't get that mad when the national media gets name's wrong. Bert does it all the time. I don't know how many times he used to say "Castino" instead of "Castillo".

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 09:36 AM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 150

Leroy, I wish TF would have been built next to MOA too. That way the jumpers would have a bullseye to aim for.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 09:37 AM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 151

trosy, i know it. So much good info (lots of useless info too:) I better get going

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 09:39 AM by Thrillhouse Highlight this comment 152

Last Saturday there was a 40% chance of rain and it ended up being sunny for part of the Gopher game and it never rained. Glass is half full, Twins fans (or at least 40% full if there's a 60% chance of rain).

I'm jealous of all of you going this weekend. Make sure to take lots of pictures and I'll be watching on FSN! How about a BallPark Magic sign?!?! I bet Rick would buy you a beer if you get on tv!

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 09:52 AM by Ole Highlight this comment 153

Yeah - We have probably hit every topic imaginable on here...

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 09:56 AM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 154

Twins cancel exhibition games due to weather forecast! Will only refund half of ticket value and no fees will be returned. Click name for official press release!

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 09:57 AM by The Truth Lies (aka Buzz) Highlight this comment 155

Absolutely! Beer and a free t-shirt.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 09:57 AM by Rick 156

Hurts/Lies/Buzz:
I was waiting for one of those...

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 10:07 AM by schweady Highlight this comment 157

At least some out there understand the concept of the 60% chance of rain forecast. I guess there is hope. Maybe the forecast should be altered to say "there is a 40% chance of dry conditions". I wonder how that would go over? If you leave the word "rain" out of the convo that might alleviate the fact that people see it and automatically assume guaranteed rain.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 10:12 AM by Jared Highlight this comment 158

Gonna have to seek out that stand with the turkey legs and grilled corn on Saturday. My daughter is going to flip out that they have grilled corn, plus it's close to where we're sitting.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 10:13 AM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 159

Great post, Rick. Thanks again.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 10:15 AM by OG Jeff Highlight this comment 160

Just because the forecast calls for rain doesn't mean I'm worried one bit... I've played softball on fields with no drainage system in pretty hard rains, I doubt they will cancel a game without a good 2" of rain in a day

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 10:19 AM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 161

Just looked, there are single tickets available on the twins site for Boston, the 14th

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 10:21 AM by Paul Highlight this comment 162

They have been on sale for a few days... I keep checking about 5x a day for the 12th, but no luck. Will hold out till next Friday, then stubhub it is

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 10:26 AM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 163

Getaway Day in the Fort!!!! The team is coming North today!!

The one thing that rain would do is limit the amount of ABs for the regulars I would imagine. Absolutely no reason to risk Baby Jesus and company getting tweaks, strains, sprains, pulls, etc. because of slippery conditions on Friday night especially with Saturday's game potentially being dry. I was hoping to see Batting Practice for the 1st time on Friday afternoon, but if it rains significantly they will hit underneath the stands.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 10:32 AM by Max Highlight this comment 164

Here is a conundrum.

Yesterday on KSTP, while in the Twins clubhouse Bill Lund said none of the lockers have been assigned yet.

What does anyone think will be the protocol for selection, longest tenure, highest salary?

It would be interesting if any of the ninjas on this site could get a diagram.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 10:34 AM by trebor651 Highlight this comment 165

Jimmer: Just a bit of friendly advice. I think you'd be better off on Ebay for the Opener. You'll get better seats without all the ridiculous fees/delivery charges. Last time I looked the cheapest in the door ticket was about $185 plus fees, so that is north of $200 each for the worst seat in the house...But if you are willing to be patient and sweat out those asking for huge bucks for bad seats I think you'll do well as there will be some "panic" in the market next weekend I would imagine.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 10:38 AM by Max Highlight this comment 166

Anyone know where the championship banners are going to be?--I had assumed the poles in left field but I think they need to add one more for that.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 10:38 AM by Erik777777 Highlight this comment 167

Erik7.. It appears they are putting the championship banners on the outside walls. I don't know if anyone knows what they will do with the flagpoles in left field next to the scoreboard.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 10:49 AM by Dan Highlight this comment 168

Max, I checked eBay yesterday and everything was $200 and up too. There were some field box on sh for ~190... I wouldn't mind paying over 200 to sit in the main lower bowl. Im still kinda hoping the twins release some of the "premium" tickets still held back for st sales (lc and cc)

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 10:58 AM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 169

Some news about Fenway and retro-fitting...

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 11:05 AM by Dan Highlight this comment 170

Jared, thanks again for keeping us up to speed.

Correct me if I am wrong, but 60 percent chance of rain (depending on how it is used) can mean (A) 60 percent of the time with like conditions, it rains (B) 60 percent of the area is likely to get wet from the storm passing through.

To those that were on Lake Minnetonka last year when it was suppose to have 70% chance of rain, we stayed dry in Excelsior while others in Smith's Bay got soaked. Funny how things work like that, I am sure rain was not forecast, those in Smith's Bay would have been PO'd!

To those non believers, I hope it rains in your section and I stay dry :)

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 11:31 AM by TK Highlight this comment 171

I am sure italicif italic rain was not forecast, those in Smith's Bay would have been PO'd!

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 11:33 AM by TK Highlight this comment 172

I give up!

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 11:34 AM by TK Highlight this comment 173

MinnesotaTwins

Roof deck tickets will be available online soon. Just have to update the website

Just got this tweet...

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 11:37 AM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 174

the long-awaited "static advertisement" signs are up...

Can't zoom in enough to get a good look, but one appears to be playballmn.com or whatever it is looking at webcam 2.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 11:32 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 175

TK -

I think "60% chance of rain" means that 60% of the viewing area should see some precip...

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 11:41 AM by Fred Highlight this comment 176

I think that championship flags will go up on the flagpoles above the left field stands. Twins letterhead has a footer with the WS flags in red, '65 AL title as a white flag, and division wins in blue. My group rep alluded during the open house about them being up there. Since those are just 10 flags, not sure what goes on #11 or what they do when more are added.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 11:47 AM by fiesta Highlight this comment 177

Well let's hope that SH let's us sell roof deck tickets then... I've got 2 for Aug 14 I want to sell now that I saw what the mini TF giveaway looks like. Anyone on here is interested, I'll sell them for $20 each

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 11:49 AM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 178

Jimmer -
Go to the game. You will get $20 for the giveaway on ebay the next day. (Yes - I saw what it looks like)

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 12:03 PM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 179

I wouldn't mind the giveaway if it was colored, but it looks like one of those dumb bronze statues. Has anyone heard if we STH get bubbleheads this year?

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 12:05 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 180

60 % chance of rain refers to:
If given 10 days with similar conditions, 6 days typically will have rain and 4 days will not. Even though the setup may be the same, no two days are created exactly alike and even the smallest disturbance can trigger rain, which is why there is disparity.

You could apply that to coverage area and say 60% of the viewing area will have rain, but thats not always the case. For instance, in tomorrows forecast there is a 60% chance of rain but it looks as though a larger portion of the viewing area (potentially all of it) will see some amount of rain. It also works out in the opposite way too. So it doesn't always work out.

A good thing to look and listen for when getting a forecast, is the meteorologists wording. Usually that can be a good tip off on how he/she feels about their forecast. Often they will say when there are issues with it but if they are confident they will say things like "likely" instead of "chance" or "probable". They usually never guarantee anything, unless of course the storm is on the doorstep or there is very good agreement on model forecasts and such, which happens. I have seen some near guarantees almost a week and a half out, hit right on the head. In the weather world thats crazy good.

For the most part though becoming a meteorologist and forecasting weather in our area is very hard. That explains why so few people become meteorologists in the first place.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 12:06 PM by Jared Highlight this comment 181

Jimmer - regarding bobbleheads for STH:

COMPLIMENTARY BOBBLEHEADS
A Bobblehead certificate will be mailed to you after the start of the season that will include redemption instructions.

The 2010 Bobblehead/s awarded are as follows:

Renewed full, 40-game, 20-game, Flex accounts: One Puckett/Hrbek set
New 2010 accounts: One Twins Legend

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 12:17 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 182

So it looks like the 11,000 STH's from last year will get the Hrbek/Puckett set and the other 14,000 new STH accounts this year will get just one legend Puckett or Hrbek.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 12:19 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 183

Bring me back to the days of Bud Kraeling's relaxed manner of presenting a weather forecast and skip the cop-out percentages. Bring a jacket if you think you'll need it.

Oh, any policies on umbrella usage? The use of which I abhor, by the way.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 12:20 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 184

So for me, will it be either Puck or Hrbek, or a different legend? When are they going to do another Mauer one?

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 12:21 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 185

I was looking back on older posts, and saw the golden seat in the metrodome and it got me wondering, since I'd never seen it in person... Was that seat there for Vikings games as well?

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 12:29 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 186

Anyone who uses an umbrella at a baseball game is an inconsiderate dolt.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 12:31 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 187

That's why ponchos were invented.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 12:32 PM by Chad Highlight this comment 188

I'll be under the roof (canopy) tomorrow so no need to worry :)

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 12:34 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 189

Umbrellas and the wave are two things that have no place at any respectable ballpark.

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 12:34 PM by Polka Highlight this comment 190

Umbrellas are fine. Ponchos are better. The wave is a horrible terrible thing that needs to seriously die off. I was seriously disappointed when people started doing the wave during the Gopher game.

Jimmer, if you're waiting for the Twins to release tickets they are holding back for STs, stop waiting. The Twins officially stopped selling season ticket packages at 5pm on Monday.

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From last week, you can see the piers taking shape. I believe that the front row, visible here as just forms and reinforcing rods, is the front edge of the plaza.



Dan Kenney, my tour guide



Discussions in progress on some very brown grass...



Looking north (toward Fifth Street and the LRT station).



This is the staircase (ramp?) leading up to the trapezoid. Nice flagpole too. You'll be able to find me and Ben McEvers at the base of that flagpole on opening day in 2010!



Looking up Fifth, with LRT tracks and B ramp at left






In the top of the 9th, the sun hit our backs and summer took one last long look.



Click on this photo to see what it looked like on this spot 101 years ago (I'm not kidding)



Another view of the escalator, which apparently comes preassembled!



You'll be able to park here for a quick stop at the Pro Shop or ticket window.



Some of Minneapolis' finest checking out the construction through a spot where a knothole will be one day.



Here's a detail from the above image, showing the LED strips up close.



Main concourse, looking south toward the area behind home plate.






Directly above gate 6 "Oliva" on the Club level.



Heaters over standing room (the backs of the retired number circles visible above)






Go get 'em, boys!



The right field overhang as seen from Seventh Street (with dude)



The view down Sixth Street toward the ballpark site. A pedestrian bridge will extend this street right into the main entrance of the park. The regrettable facade of Target Center is on the left. Butler Square is on the right. Click on the image to see what it looked like on this very spot about 100 years ago.












The Metrodome hot dog vendor. (Source: RP)



Love the red flowers -- just like the original concept drawings. That NEVER happens.



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Looking northeast from the ballpark site (Source: LP)






Click to see the whole page from this 1971 program.






Gate 29 Carew (note the walkway above open to the street where you can shout down at your lost friends to tell them where to meet you)



Cleveland



The start of the VIP entrance and loading dock.



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Now from the inside looking at the same area.



Ballpark elevation diagram, viewed from Fifth Street. (Click to enlarge.)









This view looks up Fifth Street toward downtown and shows how the LRT tracks sort of snuggle up to the ballpark.



Doors directly to the concourse, and a view of the stands beyond












The finished product.






Best view available from the "B" ramp.






I finally found the corner of TF dedicated to the Senators. What a wonderful sight.



Future home of the Met Stadium flag pole


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Not a "Third Edition" exactly,
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Original edition (2000, round)
 


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