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Leaves of Grass

August 29, 2009 3:18 AM

Something about this week has kept good old Walt Whitman in the front of my consciousness.

For the uninitiated, Whitman wrote (and re-wrote) "Leaves of Grass" around the time of the Civil War, and all but invented truly American poetry.

Beyond writing a book whose title perfectly sums up this week's activity down in the rail yard, Whitman was well known as an early baseball fan, and he spoke about it in prose and poetry on various occasions.

In our sun-down perambulations, of late, through the outer parts of Brooklyn, we have observed several parties of youngsters playing "base", a certain game of ball...Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious. -- Walt Whitman, 1846

It's impossible to sum up what Whitman's poetry has to say about the American character, and equally impossible to know how he would have reacted to a Fourth Estate which has little interest in going beyond the press release, or a TV news culture which has the attention span of a gnat.

After recording as many of the local news shows as I could this evening, I expected to start this article with a few clips from the coverage of today's completion of the grass install. Oh, if only there had been any worthy coverage.

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Yep, that's real grass down there, son.

What short stories I did find in the early evening programs dutifully quoted from the press release (again), slapped together some footage of sod rolls and bulldozers, and surrounded it with toothy grins. Of all that I saw, only KARE11's Jensen Twins did anything remotely creative, or gave the story more than a passing mention. By 10:00 PM, the whole thing was all but forgotten. That's a shame.

(As an aside, I would embed the video here but the damn KARE11 web site force-feeds commercials that you can't even mute. I'm protesting.)

The Jensens also got the most interesting quote that I heard from Larry DiVito (who is clearly uncomfortable with all the attention): "To grow grass in this climate is not the challenge it was 30 years ago, and we're pretty comfortable with the heating system we're installing, the type of grass we're installing and that we're gonna be successful up here."

The first statement is pretty remarkable, essentially dismissing (with justification) all of the concerns people might have about climate-related turf issues based on their memories of what outdoor baseball used to be like around these parts. Lord knows there were plenty of issues back at the Met.

The climate hasn't changed, but the average fan may not realize that field technology has changed substantially. It's really nothing short of a miracle, when you think about it.

Coverage was a little better earlier in the week, though all the stations pretty much looked the same. KSTP has some pretty cool pre-grass helicopter shots.

(The interviewer) said: "Baseball is the hurrah game of the republic!"

He (Whitman) was hilarious: "That's beautiful: the hurrah game! well — it's our game: that's the chief fact in connection with it: America's game: has the snap, go fling, of the American atmosphere — belongs as much to our institutions, fits into them as significantly, as our constitutions, laws: is just as important in the sum total of our historic life." -- 1889

In words, as usual, MinnPost outdoes everybody else in a terrific behind-the-scenes post by Alison Stoven O'Connor. That's far and away the most interesting and informative article I read this week.

The Strib used much cheaper tactics and tried to rile up some animosity from local sod growers. Pitiful. Of course, they also covered the Guv's inevitable -- and inevitably lame -- response.

And people wonder why that paper is dying. It's not the good people working in the trenches. It's the management and editorial staff who encourage this type of garbage in the hopes that they can stir up a profitable rhubarb. The Twins have good reasons for selecting the vendor they did, and they are right up front about it. In baseball, every tiny advantage counts. And I think you can reasonably say that the right grass is more than a "tiny" advantage.

In fact, MPR gets some good quotes about how the team may manipulate grass length. It's an old story, but there's something there that is worth knowing. It's one of the ways they will be able to revel in the fact that it isn't artificial turf!

"I believe a leaf of grass is no less than the journey-work of the stars." -- Walt Whitman

It's now well past midnight, and the 24-hour news cycle has left the grass story to fade from public consciousness. But I'm just getting started.

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Another over-my-head shot


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Parking ramp knothole


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B ramp glimpse


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Another B ramp glimpse (don't loiter here!)


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Workers against green

I don't think it's coincidence that it is not possible to see even a single blade of playing field grass from the skyway. (This is not a lament, just an observation.)

Here's the best shot I got, a variation on the one I posted earlier, taken with the camera held over my head, while trying to stay moving lest I be hustled away by parking ramp security ("No Loitering" signs are everywhere):

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(Click to enlarge)

Because I couldn't be around for the actual sod laying, here are a couple of galleries worth checking out:

Twins Official Gallery 1
Twins Official Gallery 2
Ballpark Authority Sod Gallery

And don't miss this summary of the timeline for completion.

There's also a lot of grass and other greenery to be seen out on the plaza.

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The big glove will go on that circle. Note the gap between the plaza and the ramp. That's 394 you can see through there.


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A path for workers -- don't touch the plaza! -- in front of three giant Chia pets


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Purple flowers above Second Avenue


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Some infrastructure stuff:

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Gate 34 Puckett


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You can finally see how the plaza will meet the street on the north side of this emergency exit tower (which will be converted to a regular entrance/exit)





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I realized I've never shown how the walkway over Seventh Street meets the A ramp


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Stairs down to Seventh Street now have the start of railings


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The parking bay structure is now clearly visible


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Break time

Louvres (oddly without any random gaps like the Fifth Street facade):

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Seats:

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Notice the temporary railing extensions

And a little bit of sky, just for fun:

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There you have it, the sum total of my hour-long walking tour.

On a day when I got some discouraging news about my own artistic aspirations, and was again frustrated in my attempts to help the Twins tell the story of Target Field, let's give Uncle Walt a shot at providing some context:

It is a beautiful truth that all men contain something of the artist in them.

And perhaps it is the case that the greatest artists live and die, the world and themselves alike ignorant what they possess.

Who would not mourn that an ample palace, of surpassingly graceful architecture, fill’d with luxuries, and embellish’d with fine pictures and sculpture, should stand cold and still and vacant, and never be known or enjoy’d by its owner?

Would such a fact as this cause your sadness? Then be sad. For there is a palace, to which the courts of the most sumptuous kings are but a frivolous patch, and, though it is always waiting for them, not one of its owners ever enters there with any genuine sense of its grandeur and glory.

I think of few heroic actions, which cannot be traced to the artistical impulse. He who does great deeds, does them from his innate sensitiveness to moral beauty.

Whitman sure covered a lot of territory. He had a keen sense for beauty, history, art, humanity. These are all things which need be present in architecture (and business, and life) for it to soar and capture the imagination of those with whom it comes in contact.

As such, while grass has certainly humanized this ballpark to a degree, it's only a small milestone. Whitman would be the first to say that a place isn't a place without people.

Can you wait?

Thanks for stopping by today, and for keeping things going in my absence. Next, I'll return to TCF Bank Stadium for a bit. There's lots more to see there, and it's quite relevant to what's going on here. Until then...

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Great Post Rick!

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 06:46 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 1

tremendous post Rick. great pics, as usual.

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 07:33 AM by luke Highlight this comment 2

Anyone else really pleased with the color of the seats? All of the renderings were showing a VERY bright green. I love how it looks like there is a shade of blue in them. Maybe it is just my messed up eyes.

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 09:13 AM by sarend01 Highlight this comment 3

You can't go wrong with green seats, especially if you're trying to make it look like the wildnerness of Minnesota. Blue would of looked tacky when trying to accomplish that idea. Limestone and green go together, nothing else.

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 09:48 AM by MB Highlight this comment 4

I got a chuckle from this baseball-themed comic in today's Strib.

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 09:58 AM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 5

I was hoping to catch a clip of this on You Tube. No such luck. Do you suppose the Metrodome scoreboard will replay it as part of their weekly highlights?

As you know, almost every game now, there is a message on the scoreboard with some guy proposing to some girl and it always brings a tear to my eye, as she says yes. My heart skips a beat. But last night, alas, the girl hesitated, slapped the young man fairly hard, and ran up the steps, not to be seen again for the rest of the night.

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 10:15 AM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 6

Great post Rick. I especially liked the article from MinnPost. Very informative. It proves there is great excitement by Twins fans accross the upper midwest!

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 10:48 AM by reclinermjs Highlight this comment 7

Just wanted to say hi to everybody. Don't comment a lot but check the site at least 20 times a day. Thanks Rick for my favorite site on the web. Just wanted to let everyone know that I went down to the field today and tried my hand at some pictures. Not the best photographer, some turned out too dark, but I'd like to share them with you guys. Not nearly as beautiful as Rick's. Click my name and enjoy. Thanks again for the site Rick.

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 11:03 AM by Ryguy213 Highlight this comment 8

Great pics Ryguy! Man I just love how the sun shines on those seats.

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 11:05 AM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 9

Thanks Kevin, it's pretty special over there.

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 11:07 AM by Ryguy213 Highlight this comment 10

The team has announced their plans for the final series. There are quite a few former players that will be there on the 3rd for photo sessions and on the 4th for the celebration. Also, the final game there will be certificates given out.

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM by Twins Territory Highlight this comment 11

epic post Rick, perhaps your best on ever.

If you notice - the strib articles trying to whip up "controversy" couldn't quote ONE pissed-off sod farmer... they had a largely benign platitude from their association guy, but even he wasn't hacked off about it, and it showed.

It was a bush league effort by a bush league reporter (and or editor) but the article also contained the shop-worn "retro ballpark" jibber-jabber that proves the journo knew nothing of the subject he was writing.

btw, does anyone else think MinnPost is on its way to passing the Strib as the premier local news site? depth, reporting, analysis, solid columnists... i have a hunch...

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 11:21 AM by CJ Highlight this comment 12

The Louvres, (especially on 7th st. side)look pretty cool. Almost like giant Venitian Blinds

P.S.And a Thank you to: Rick & Ryguy213, for the Great Pic's

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 11:23 AM by hans Highlight this comment 13

saw a peice on the turf on kare 11's morning show today.. it was done by belinda jensen and her old ass looking brother.. man thats real sports media

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 11:26 AM by Mazaratirick Highlight this comment 14

Everytime I look at these photographs I regress to the level of an 8 year old. I'll be 49 next year. My dad never took me to the "Cities" to see a game at the Met. I've never told him that I have never forgave him for this travesty. My earliest memories of a Twins game are at the Dome - smuggling in a bottle of vodka to pour into a lemonade sitting in the $2 cheap seats in my 1980's college days.

I've lived in Florida within driving distance of a dozen Spring Training sights, in Chicago within walking distance of Wrigley Field and in San Francisco where I got to see the new PacBell/SBC/AT&T Ballpark.

This will top all of that. I'll take out a loan and sit there in a snowmobile suit on Opening Day if I have to. I live back in Northern MN now. Strange how these things happen.

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 11:27 AM by Chuck Highlight this comment 15

So, is the grass all installed?

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 11:30 AM by michael Highlight this comment 16

Yes, It appears so (web cam #1)

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 11:38 AM by hans Highlight this comment 17

I'm very happy this doesn't look like another PacBell Park BTW. It's truly unique. I think the color of those seats would fall under "forest green".

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 11:39 AM by Chuck Highlight this comment 18

& sprinklers running

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 11:42 AM by hans Highlight this comment 19

Great job on the pics

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 12:26 PM by chingy Highlight this comment 20

Thanks, ryguy213!

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 12:47 PM by Rick 21

Very appropriate Whitman. Grass looks great.

Anyone know why they've removed seats from section 201 and 203?

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 1:22 PM by Elston Gunn Highlight this comment 22

Does anyone know when the fair/foul lines will be installed in the outfield grass and warning track? Are they going to be permanent lines in the grass ( I think they are made of thin rubber) or will they just be repainted when needed.

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 1:30 PM by Eric Highlight this comment 23

rick, we must have a geek ballpark ninja happy hour somewhere. you deserve a congratulatory toast by us all for your coverage. cheers!

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 2:20 PM by yeahklye Highlight this comment 24

yeahklye - I'll second that.
if we did something like that, we should have it at the Epic on 5th St. It's just south of the ballpark, and we could all go on a tour afterwards! I've been to many a happy hour there...

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 3:10 PM by luke Highlight this comment 25

Check out the neat photo gallery at the Strib (click on name). A great shot of the park from behind home plate.

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 4:56 PM by Andy G Highlight this comment 26

the two things i notice about this latest photo gallery from Rick. I love the first pic, and those two seats right at the top. Perfect season ticket location right there.

And I love the pic of the workers taking OUT seats in rows (3rd to last photo. these are the ones they installed incorrectly way back at the beginning).

Note to future Vikings stadium builders: remember to order the right metal for the seat supports.

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 6:49 PM by luke Highlight this comment 27

Some good timeline pictures of sod installation.

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 7:10 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 28

Maybe the Twins should pick up some hitting. They have scored 4 runs in the last three games, and 3 of those came in the first inning yesterday.

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 8:55 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 29

yawn! what a boring game tonight. talk about lack of timely hitting.

random question. who is the bat boy that works the twins dugout down the left field line? not trying to sound too mean, but that kid is, well, rather horrible at his job. he seems to have a complete lack of baseball coordination. i only mention it as i think he has been down there for a few years now and foul balls are constantly getting by him and onto the bullpen mound as well as back onto the field. most bat boys/bat girls that do that job usually seem to have at least a little bit of a clue as to what it is they are doing down there.

is he the son of someone in the twins front office? the spawn of one billy smith perhaps?

only mentioning it as bert blyleven oftens likes to poke a little fun at him from time to time during the broadcasts.

anyways, all in good fun.

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 9:29 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 30

I'm pretty sure he has a disability

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 9:34 PM by Camden Highlight this comment 31

camden - unless you know that for sure, please don't attempt to speculate about it. something like that was certainly not what my post was implying or even making light of IF that is where you are going.

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 11:45 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 32

If the Twins are like other MLB teams, they have different bat/ball boys/girls for each game or series. There's a lot of demand among kids out there to do it, as you might imagine. I've heard it said that having contacts within the front office helps...

I'll never forget reading a story in one of the Chicago papers about a ball boy who was a die-hard White Sox fan, totally psyched that he got to be on the field at New Comiskey, but got stationed on the visitor's side, meaning he had to wear a Twins uniform. He got booed every time he touched a ball because the fans had no idea how the process worked.

(I don't think the uniform thing applies at the Metrodome.)

Posted on August 29, 2009 at 11:58 PM by Rick 33

The Twins have had the same kids do it for years. Adam is the one near the Twins dugout, I think he's like 20 by now. Ryan is the one who isn't very good, at the Twins bullpen.

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 12:19 AM by AJ Highlight this comment 34

Don't know who he is but I know for a fact the bat boy for the visiting team dugout at the Dome is the same guy (not kid) every game. He wears their uniform.

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 35

I guess that shows just how observant I've been of the non-players on the field. Maybe it's like Kabuki stage hands -- they're supposed to be invisible so my mind pretends not to see them.

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 12:37 AM by Rick 36

You can now follow BallparkMagic on Twitter, and/or friend BallparkMagic on Facebook.

There's nothing there on either of these yet, but if interest is high enough I can use them for some of the little details or links I get that never seem to find their way into a full article.

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 01:19 AM by Rick 37

i became a fan on facebook! haha i don't do Twitter!

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 07:09 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 38

Beta,

I didn't see anything wrong with your post. Now I haven't met the guy, so I'm not 100% positive, but the way I've seen him interact with people, and shagging balls, beach balls (My season tickets are in the front row in left field), it makes me fairly confident he has a developmental disability. Obviously not super severe, but I do think it exists.

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 08:04 AM by Camden Highlight this comment 39

Rick,

You got copied!

The StarTribune (Sunday's print edition) has a picture of Target Field with the grass installed, and quoted Walt Whitman.

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 09:38 AM by David_Mpls Highlight this comment 40

I can't find it on Twitter or Facebook. Where is it?

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 11:32 AM by michael Highlight this comment 41

michael, you need to type in "BallparkMagic" with no spaces and it should show up in the search results.

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 12:12 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 42

Well boys looks like my days of being a ninja or over.. took a tour last night after the game and was passing the new ticket booths past the pro shop and there he was! MPD squad car sitting at the edge of the seats and the target plaza!engine running and parking lights on.. whew had to get my ninja on just to get out...

so its over.. i will have to wait now until april

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 1:33 PM by Mazaratirick Highlight this comment 43

Mazaratirick,

When I was down there on Friday morning there were cops everywhere -- even hanging out on street corners. Kind of weird because they didn't seem to care at all where I went or what I took pictures of. In fact, they kind of ignored me.

David_Mpls,

That's cool. Do those stories eventually make it onto the web? If not, can I get a scan from you?

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 3:19 PM by Rick 44

Facebook and Twitter widgets are now embedded at the top of this page on the right-hand column.

As I said before, I will be using these mostly for little things -- which will probably increase over the next few months.

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 3:21 PM by Rick 45

are working on the parking space next to target field where sharing and caring is

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 5:43 PM by tomeko Highlight this comment 46

tomeko - huh? can you please elaborate? working on what?

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 7:46 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 47

does anyone know if there will be pyrotechnics at target field?

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 7:59 PM by twinsfan11 Highlight this comment 48

probably. it's outdoors.

i know there will be animitronics operating the shaking hands logo out in center.

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 8:45 PM by luke Highlight this comment 49

parking area on 7th street i just what to know is there more work to be done

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 8:47 PM by tomeko Highlight this comment 50

Actually they looked into it Luke but decided against it due to cost.

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 8:57 PM by Camden Highlight this comment 51

oh man!
so what are they going to do to light it then? LEDs?

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 9:16 PM by luke Highlight this comment 52

no fireworks??!! or are youu talking about animatronics

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 9:44 PM by Deenels Highlight this comment 53

Last I had read the Twins were going to have shaking hands logo in center, but it was not going to be animated in any way.

I thought I had heard something about fireworks or light displays in the bats on the plaze, but I could be wrong.

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 10:02 PM by CJ Highlight this comment 54

Time for a little clarity:

The "signature piece" in center field (a giant version of the Twins original logo) will be lit but not have any motion. THat was deemed too expensive.

The Twins have mentioned fireworks many times, indicating that they intend to have them. But at the same time they always talk about being respectful to the people who live in the neighborhood (there are lots of them). That suggests scheduled fireworks after games rather than spontaneous fireworks during games (such as after home runs).

They have not said anything more definitive.

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 10:32 PM by Rick 55

Rick and others,
While at the state fair today we sauntered over to the twins booth. The guy sitting at the table with the box for the drawing for twins stuff was pointing things out to us. One of the big things he mentioned was the fireworks. He pointed to an image on the box with a rendering of the field at night and fireworks beyond the outfield and said that was one of the highlights but they likely wouldn't do fireworks for homers. I am not sure if he was a legit twins staffer or volunteer worker, but he seems to have known his stuff, so who knows.

We also stopped down to TF today and got some great shots. Too bad I forgot to recharge the SLR battery to get any sod shots with it. Luckily the lady friend had her point and shoot and we put together a good collection.

Rick I am going to send you a couple you may like.

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 11:02 PM by Jared Highlight this comment 56

I just find it humorous the star trib used a walt whitman quote with its photo of the sod install in the sunday paper. hmmm, wonder where they got that idea. the twins need to just put rick on the payroll.

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 11:14 PM by tim Highlight this comment 57

i don't buy the stated logic behind no doing fireworks after home runs. it is not like there aren't neighborhoods around other mlb stadiums where they light off fireworks following home runs. what makes the north loop neighborhood so special?! seriously?! and yes, i DO have friends who live in that area right around the ballpark and have visited it many times, so it is not like i am saying that with no point of reference or consideration for the neighborhood.

if they are just using the neighborhood excuse to be cheap on fireworks, well then that is just lame. first no animatronics on the center field "piece" because of "cost" - like you can't afford it pohlads! - and now possibly no fireworks after home runs?!

what is this frickin' russia?! ;-)

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 11:40 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 58

parking area on 7th street i just what to know is there more work to be done

Posted on August 30, 2009 at 11:52 PM by tomeko Highlight this comment 59

I asked this before but I didn't see anyone respond. I'm wondering where and if there will be bands playing for pre-game events as they do now at the dome. And where would the radio and tv talkers set up? Great job Rick!!!

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 07:41 AM by Tommy Highlight this comment 60

I know that some other ballparks shootoff fireworks after home runs, but how many other ballparks situated in neighborhoods do that? Does Wrigley? My bet is that most, if not all, of the ballparks that are doing it are not located near a large residential area, but probably rather in an industrial area off a large highway surrounded by a big highway or something like that....just a guess.

Personally, I don't care if they shoot off fireworks or not.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 08:25 AM by Fred Highlight this comment 61

Tommy-

Don't know about any bands, but I believe the radio and tv pre/post game announcers will be setting up in the in the main concourse level of the admin building.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 08:27 AM by Fred Highlight this comment 62

Isn't it entirely possible that the fireworks used would be more flashy, less kaboom-y?

I'm 3 blocks from the stadium and don't think I'd be able to hear fireworks that far away, especially if they're competing with the din of a victory.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 08:32 AM by Chad Highlight this comment 63

I think it might be cool to have the FS North broadcasts (pre-game, Twins Live stuff) on the Budweiser Deck - or maybe the Plaza.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 08:46 AM by luke Highlight this comment 64

i am about a mile north of the state fairgrounds and i hear fireworks every single night during the fair.

sounds mostly like thunder but i can understand why people wouldn't want them after every single home run or after each game.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 09:27 AM by annoying customer Highlight this comment 65

Not sure if anyone answered Eric's post from a day ago. He was wondering about the foul lines. The foul lines are painted on the grass, and chalk is used where the foul line crosses the warning track. So you won't see those until game time.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 09:40 AM by Steeks Highlight this comment 66

I find it funny that the same people that want old fashioned organs and no up to date music in the ballpark want fireworks after home runs.

Who cares? The home run IS the firework. Do we always need caramel on top of chocolate, on top of banannas, on top of the ice cream with nuts AND a cherry on top?

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 09:42 AM by moda253 Highlight this comment 67

i agree moda! maybe the money for the fireworks can go toward signing talent? haha Too bad the Pohlads are as cheap as their dad, but i think it was someone here who said that Carl Pohlad didn't spend the bucks cuz the dome didn't generate revenue so yay new place!

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 10:05 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 68

Moda-

I'm with you...I could care less about fireworks...and I'm one of those people that would prefer more organ music and less of that canned crapola.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 10:08 AM by Fred Highlight this comment 69

I think we can officially put the wrong metal rumor for the seats to rest as being no longer a rumor. The seats in 201 and 203 are clearly missing as where 202 and 204 last week. This blunder does not bother me that much though as long as they fix it. What would really bother me is if the wrong metal was used in some of the supporting structure. Now that would be just plain scary.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 10:18 AM by DeePee Highlight this comment 70

they are makings some serious progress on seats today

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 10:36 AM by Deenels Highlight this comment 71

Seems like there should be someone to take to task about the seats. Maybe if enough people asked the media to investigate they would get off their dead ass and do so. Perhaps Rick can get after his contacts on the controlling board and find out if they do anything other than ink rubber stamps and say "Yes, Sir" to the Pohlads/Twins management. If they are having quality or installation issues in one area it should raise serious red flags about other areas. Let's not forget whose money is being spent here!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 10:50 AM by B.W. McEvers Highlight this comment 72

Is the Noon deadline, MN time or Eastern?

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 11:07 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 73

Sooj - is it a little early to put the Pohlad boys in the same class as their old man? In fairness, I think that you need to give them at least a year in control to before raising judgement. Personally, I am impressed with how they stepped to the plate and threw in extra $$$ for some of the finishing touches with the stadium. Let's hope the off season proves you wrong.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 11:18 AM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 74

maybe you're right! I hope they do prove me wrong!

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 11:21 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 75

It appears the "parking area" on 7th is a drop off area for buses? is that correct?

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 11:36 AM by Dan Highlight this comment 76

Also, any word when the canopy will be finished? it would sure be nice to see that completed and get the scaffolding out of there. I know it was moved down the priority list for completion until other items are worked on. Also, when are the lights going to be tested?

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 11:39 AM by Dan Highlight this comment 77

while we're on the subject of seats, anyone know why Champions Club seat installation has been at a stand-still since Aug 18th (I looked at the webcam 1, they haven't done anything down there since then)?

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 11:59 AM by wondering Highlight this comment 78

wondering,

I think you're referring to the Dugout Box section, and I was wondering that myself. The seats in that section are slightly different than what is used in the general seating - maybe they're waiting for the next shipment, who knows.

The Champion's Club section is the small section immediately behind home plate, and it doesn't look they've started there yet. That's where the big padded Lay-Z-Boys are going.

Dan - it looks like they're almost done with the sheathing underneath the canopy, maybe even the next day or so.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 12:13 PM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 79

You're true Expectorate. Thanks for correcting me on that.
I wasn't sure if the Lay-Z boy type seats were in the Dugout Box section too. after looking at the "seat by section' thing on the website, The Dugout Box seats will be padded, but the seat backs will be like the general ones.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 12:24 PM by wondering Highlight this comment 80

Statue news courtesy of Charley Walters over at the Pioneer Press.

"The first statues of former Twins for display at Target Field are expected to be those of hall of famers Harmon Killebrew, Kirby Puckett and Rod Carew, with statues of Tony Oliva and Kent Hrbek to follow."

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 12:28 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 81

according to Joe Christensen "Twins haven’t asked for Harden’s medical records; trade unlikely"
Although it says it was written at 9:34am, but i went to Star Trib before and didn't see it but here's the link for it

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 12:45 PM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 82

oh he had updated thing saying the cubs plan on holding on to Harden

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 12:49 PM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 83

Just a quick note regarding a recent ballpark trip:

I was in Denver for work last week and had the opportunity to visit Coors Field twice. Althought, I had heard good things about it, I was never overly impressed by the pictures of the stadium. Needless to say, I was blown away by how great it was to watch a game in that park. I watched the game from numerous places, with the best being the upper deck on the 1st base side. This allowed you a beautiful view of the field of play, the scoreboard, the trees and water beyond the center field fence, and of course, the Rocky Mountains beyond the stadium.

With how impressed I am with the pictures of Target Field, I can only imagine how blown away we will all be to actually watch a game there.

One negative takeway from Coors was the ushers. There were ushers at the top of EVERY section in the lower concourse and checked tickets throughout the entire game. I tried to go into a nearly vacant section along the left field line beyone third base in the 6th inning (not the best seats in the house), and was quickly sent packing by an usher.

I hope the ushers at TF aren't nearly as vigorous in "controlling" their sections (especially if there are plenty of seats available).

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 1:10 PM by ajndsu Highlight this comment 84

AJ:

I understand that the Pohlads have hired 87 of "The Bear Jew's" cousins to control the seating areas. Seat jump at your own risk at TF in 2010. You will have to know the secret handshake and the password to enter the Moat below the Field Boxes...

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 1:23 PM by Max Highlight this comment 85

ajndsu - in regards to ushers. i have to disagree with you. as a season ticket holder i don't spend a couple thousand a year on ST's to sit in a specific area of the ballpark only so those who purchased a random single game ticket for $15 (i am not saying this is you as i don't know your personal ticket situation with the twins) can come sit there as well whenever they feel like it, even if there are some open seats.

otherwise what is the point in buying season tickets and paying for a specific seat in the house? a team should just make a ballpark general admission then if ushers are not going to do their job in terms of managing seating assignments and obviously that is not going to happen. i don't feel bad about that. if some cultural warriors want to call that type of attitude elitist that is fine with me.....i guess i am elitist.

max - nice "inglorious basterds" reference with "the bear jew" comment. i saw that with a few friends this past weekend. it was decent.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 1:44 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 86

Will they ever start installing the the wind veils in the plaza?

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 2:01 PM by jake Highlight this comment 87

If baseball were socialist: What if baseball teams would just take the median of all their prices and charge that one price ($35 per ticket??), then make the ballpark first-come, first-served? How well that would work?

I have to politely disagree with ajndsu. I, too, was at Coors Field last week for the series vs. the Dodgers. I also took my virgin trip to Kauffman in K.C. to watch Zach Grienke light up the Indians. What I liked about both parks is that they each had a difinitive identity; however, I felt Kauffman "felt" more like the real deal. It seemed more open and intimate than Coors, which is a behemoth, albeit a glorious one. In K.C., the fans meshed with the team and what was going on down on the field. At Coors, the field felt distant. At K.C., the fans were into the game and appeared die-hard despite the Royals' misfortunes. At Coors, the fans were more interested in being seen by other socialites than paying attention to the game. If I had my druthers, I hope Target Field is much more like Kauffman.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 2:03 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 88

I agree with Betaband on the ushering of people who are trying to get a better seat than what they paid for. I am currently a single game purchaser and typically buy lower level seats. I absolutely hate it when I see random people show up next to me during the middle innings and then talk about how much better these seats are.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 2:17 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 89

Beta -
While I understand and empathize with your point on buying more pricey seats (and thus, having exclusive access to those seats), I don't think it is unreasonable at the tail end of the game to allow fans to see the park from different viewpoints (especially if there is an extreme excess in capacity).

This, unfortunately, is often is enforced in an elitist fashion, as I had lower level tickets and had no problem getting into upper level seats (even seats that were much more densely populated than their lower level brethren). Getting to OTHER lower level seats, however, was nearly impossible (no matter if they were better or worse than my ticket). I guess ultimately you can't argue with making people sit in the seats that they purchased, but when I visit a park I like to see it from a variety of angles (and I'm sure I'm not alone). I don't think that it is a "right" to be able to do so, but I know it makes me feel like the park is more fan friendly if I am able to do so.

The Truth Hurts -
I've never been to Kaufmann, so I can't agree/disagree with your comparison of it to Coors. While I agree that Coors could easily cut 5-10k seats (especially in right field), I didn't find it distant or uninviting.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 2:25 PM by ajndsu Highlight this comment 90

Is there any explanation for the lack of those random gaps in the 7th street side louvres?

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 2:25 PM by Miller Highlight this comment 91

NORTHSTAR, 1st train: November 16th

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 2:57 PM by yeahklye Highlight this comment 92

Does anybody know how many blades of grass the new field will have when it's finished?

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 3:11 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 93

"Does anybody know how many blades of grass the new field will have when it's finished?"

I'm sure Rick is on that one and should have an answer for you soon... ;)

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 3:22 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 94

I'm working on grains of sand in the infield dirt.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 3:26 PM by Rick 95

I think grass blade counting would be fitting punishment for seat jumpers.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 3:32 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 96

the ushers at the dome have gotten more aggressive in recent years... my ability to move up from a outfield ga seat to the ritzy sections (which i did a LOT in 98 and 99 when i had $100 season tickets) is largely impossible now...

the one line that works when trying to get downstairs - "look if the concessions up here ACTUALLY SOLD DECENT BEER i wouldn't have to go downstairs, but I want a Summit, and that's only behind 126" (i think)

works everytime...

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 3:59 PM by CJ Highlight this comment 97

Amen Fred. Less canned-crapola, more good old fashioned baseball. There is a reason that Wrigley Field is the best place to watch a baseball game in the majors. No freaking theme-music for every single batter, no stupid animated pizza races in between innings on the jumbotron, (no jumbotron for that matter), a total of about three or four visible advertisements (as opposed to most ballparks where they sell the space on the back of your eyelids), and most of all - NO FIREWORKS!
I live in Chicago, and I've been to quite a few Twins games down on the south side over the past several years, and I have to tell you all, there's nothing more embarrassing for the home team (the White Sox as it were) than when the visitors (Twins) are up 9-2 in the 8th inning and the lowly home team (Sox) hits a solo homerun to make it 9-3, and the sad, pathetic sky lights up with sad, pathetic fireworks, and the neighborhood rings out with the sound of cracking, fizzing, and booming letting everyone in a 1-mile radius know that the Sox are now only six runs down with four outs to go instead of seven runs. It's ridiculous.
If TF has no fireworks, baseball watching there will be all the better.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 4:03 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 98

The blade counting crack reminds me of that Cheers episode with Kevin McHale and the guys counting the bolts in the floor at the old "Gah-den"

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 4:20 PM by luke Highlight this comment 99

Save the fireworks for designated Friday/Saturday nights for postgame.

We can have our Blue Bunny/Delta Airlines/Dairy Queen/Treasure Island Fireworks Nights, but please, NO fireworks DURING games.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 4:24 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 100

A couple of years ago ESPN rated all 30 of the major league parks, and one of their metrics was the ease with which a fan could move up to better seats as the game progressed.

Click my name for the very old link. The metric is called "Trading Up", the abbreviation is TRADI, and you have to scroll down to the second table to see the scores.

It was clear from their approach that fans in the cheap seats sort of expect to be able to do it if the better seats are empty. But it's easy to understand the indignation of people who actually paid to sit in those sections.

I've had mixed experiences:

1. At the Metrodome I've never had trouble getting downstairs with an excuse like the one mentioned (though I usually use souvenirs as my straw man), but it's hard to get past the ushers at the top of each aisle. On the other hand, I've been encouraged by ushers on more than one occasion to move downstairs to the best seats during extra inning games.

2. One time at Wrigley I bought some terrible seats without knowing it and spent the whole game moving around (in one case getting booted by ushers, and in several others being booted by fans returning to their own seats with beers). No fun for most of the game, but we eventually settled into pretty good seats and were never displaced.

3. At Comiskey we sat 10 rows from the dugout during a cold September game when the announced attendance had only four digits (our tickets were for the upper deck). Nobody cared. Nobody ever checked our tickets. No harm, no foul.

When the crowd is big enough, I've found that trying to find a seat other then the one on my ticket just isn't worth the hassle. I miss too much of the game, and can never really settle in and be comfortable.

On the other hand, if the park is empty I expect to be able to walk down to the best empty seat in the house and make it my own. There is a point beyond which militant ushers just give the home team a bad name. It's really about customer service as much as anything else.

So, I wonder where the balancing point is. Is it 60% of capacity? More? Less? Should it be absolutely prevented? Leisurely enforced? I'm not sure exactly how I feel about it.

Either way, unless the weather or the team is bad, it will be something of a moot point at TF for the first couple of years.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 4:27 PM by Rick 101

The biggest benefit of having open concourses is that you have the ability to move around the ballpark and view the action from different perspectives without having to try and sneak into seats that you didn't pay for.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 4:35 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 102

At Dodger Stadium they do fireworks after the game and let all fans onto the outfield to watch. The Twins should consider this as well.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 5:53 PM by Lafferty Highlight this comment 103

whoever it was that said Toro was right. click link

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 6:44 PM by some guy Highlight this comment 104

Looking for opinions...Do you think they are going to mow patterns into the grass or just mow it plain?

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 7:27 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 105

...tomorrow that is...

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 7:46 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 106

Northstar train in the station for today's announcement. See Webcam 1 at 3:45pm. (08/31/09)

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 8:09 PM by David_Mpls Highlight this comment 107

I cannot imagine they would do anymore than they had to when it comes to mowing. you will see stripes from just going up and back but other than that don't expect that TC logo in center field just yet. Although, that would be another way to keep the hype at a high level.

We stopped at TF Sunday, here are a couple of images that I put into a panorama of the field. The rest will likely make it up tonight or tomorrow.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 8:23 PM by Jared Highlight this comment 108

trosy29 - I do like the patterns, but I hope they keep it straightforward. A couple of years ago at Fenway, they "mowed" a giant Red Sox logo (two socks right next to each other) into center field; I thought it was a tad strange. Or - the Gateway Arch "mowed" into center field at the latest incarnation of Busch stadium - you can see the actual Gateway Arch out past center, the reproduction in the grass is unnecessary. I hope the Twins stick with the tried-and-true alternating stripes, or basket-weave patterns.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 8:35 PM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 109

Fred - Bingo!

If you want to "upgrade" from your ticketed location, go stand behind the yellow line at the top of the concourse.

I applaud the ushers at Coors Field and other parks that enforce the rules (and there is some leeway at Coors). At Coors, the policy is pretty simple - you can move down as far as you want to empty seats, as long as your ticket is for the same or better location.

For the infield box seats, you can move down to Row 11 if your seats are Row 11 or higher. Only those (primarily long time season ticket holders) with seats in rows 10 or below can move down below row 10.

I happen to have seats in row 10 and I like the end of the games when no one is standing up in front of me on every pitch and appreciate the ushers who enforce the rules (yes, someone with a $4 Rockpile seat ends up from time to time in the $50 seats) and get REALLY annoyed when folks start arguing that they have a right to move down further "because no one else is sitting there".

I consider the "gold zone" rule to be a season ticket holder benefit, much like seat upgrades from year to year. I presume the Twins will do something similar, though I think Rick is correct that it will be less of an issue the first few years unless the team simply nosedives.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 9:11 PM by jfh3 Highlight this comment 110

Lafferty - with regard to fireworks, fans generally get to move down to the field depending on their seat location - if they are sitting in an area where fireworks debris would likely impact them, they get to relocate. Kind of the reverse of the above discussion on seat moving - at Coors Field, the people with some of the less expensive seats get to relocate to the field for the fireworks shows when those in the more expensive seats don't have that option. (Actually, moving isn't optional - if you are in certain sections, you move to the field if you want to stay for the fireworks).

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 9:15 PM by jfh3 Highlight this comment 111

Finishing up on the fireworks thought - I suspect the Twins will do the same thing, since there aren't too many places they can launch the fireworks from that wouldn't impact some seating area.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 9:17 PM by jfh3 Highlight this comment 112

I believe I read once (somewhere; it was a long time ago)that the patterns in the outfield grass are the result of 'rolling' the turf. They attach a roller of some sort on the back of the mower, or they simply roll the field without mowing. Flattening the grass in one direction or another will angle it slightly, creating a different shade of green depending on how it's angled toward the light source.
The patterns in the field truf at the Dome are created in such a manner. After baseball season is over, the circular patterns in the infield are removed for football season. Since they don't mow the field turf, and the patterns aren't permanent, this can be the only explanation.

But then, I've been wrong before.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 9:21 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 113

From Wikipedia: "One particular aspect that has not been made public remains. 'Dead center is going to be a surprise that Jeffrey Loria is working on for the stadium,' Marlins President David Samson said. 'The whole point of this was to have fun, and for the people coming to the game to experience a true baseball-only ballpark that has its own personality in what we hope will be a uniquely Miami personality.'"

Wonder what that could be... deep-sea fishing pond?

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 9:38 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 114

caught me a marlin!!! wow funny movie reference for a second, then totally lame after realizing its the marlins new stadium in reference.

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 10:02 PM by Jared Highlight this comment 115

some guy - that would be the "betaband" who called toro turf equipment at target field. thanks for the link.

good to hear the toro/target field contract has been signed. a great minneapolis/bloomington company. it should be those guys with the target field contract and no one else imo.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 12:03 AM by Betaband Highlight this comment 116

Does anyone know when the gap in section 130 (left field bleachers) is going to be put in? I'm assuming it's only still there for construction access?

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 01:04 AM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 117

I went to a fireworks game at coors a few years ago. They moved us from the 3 dollar cheap seats to left field. I'll never forget laying out on that grass watching the fireworks. Simply amazing.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 01:56 AM by DuluthTim Highlight this comment 118

Winona Mike, you're right that the intricate patterns you see in the grass (Red Sox logo on infield, St. Louis Arch at All-Star Game) are not mowed in but are "brushed" in. I talked to a friend in the turf industry and he said the stencil is laid down on the field and then they brush the grass a certain direction. I believe for intricate patterns, they don't even use a roller, but actually hand brush the grass with brooms. I think a big TC logo in the middle of centerfield would be pretty cool.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 07:12 AM by Faber College Alum Highlight this comment 119

As far as the patterns go, I prefer the criss-cross look.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 08:18 AM by Fred Highlight this comment 120

Look at them finish off the canopy on webcam 2!!! Go, Go, Go!

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 09:04 AM by Jared Highlight this comment 121

Jared, I love your TF logo by the way! It's friggin' sweet!

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 09:16 AM by Deenels Highlight this comment 122

Yep, I just got to touch a piece of the sod. Someone brought a piece of it to work today.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 09:16 AM by pawelk Highlight this comment 123

Rick, could you please take down some of the photos posted for this entry? It takes too long to scroll down.

Generally, the fewer photos the better so there is more room for discussion.

Thanks!

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 09:32 AM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 124

don't listen to that joker. the more photos, the better!

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 09:35 AM by some guy Highlight this comment 125

The Truth Hurts,

Seriously? Please tell me you're being sarcastic. Rick's photos and comments are awesome. Is your index finger getting tired srolling?

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 09:37 AM by Faber College Alum Highlight this comment 126

Deenels,
Thanks, much appreciated. I am no graphics pro but I do enough to teach myself new things that sometimes have great results.

I also say the more photos, the better.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 09:46 AM by Jared Highlight this comment 127

Yes....The Truth Hurts better have been laying on the sarcasm in his statement...

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 09:51 AM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 128

yeah it's not that bad, since rick changed it so it's one entry shown, i just grab the scroll bar and scroll down, not that bad

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 10:19 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 129

Pictures are worth a thousand words....Keep taking pictures Rick, don't listen to that joker!

(You're welcome Jared, It looks pretty professional)

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 10:48 AM by Deenels Highlight this comment 130

It's like holding a laser pointer.

Dance, Rube cats! Dance!

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 11:07 AM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 131

Looks like their cutting the grass right now.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 11:20 AM by Camden Highlight this comment 132

Yes I know I spelled they're wrong.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 11:21 AM by Camden Highlight this comment 133

Looks like they are starting to mow.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 11:24 AM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 134

When I drove by this morning it looked like the back of the scoreboard was 3/4 complete. I suppose a TF logo will go on the back once finished.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 11:37 AM by OG Jeff Highlight this comment 135

I have a question about the plaza. Is there plans for future expansion? It would have been nice for them to extend the plaza over the 4th & 6th St exits, creating more space for various fountains/statues/activities/booths/tents. It seems that there is way more potential. (see pic one in the 'Plaza Trees' post)

If they are really ambitious, they could remodel that side of TC, creating a new entrance facing TF (also removing that section of 2nd Ave). Imagine a beautiful facade on TC that faces the enormous plaza, connected to TF!

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 11:47 AM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 136

I've got a question- off topic and probably been discussed before-but why are ballpark design companies not using cantilevered grandstands any more. Since 1989 the only park I can think of that has one is Petco Park. And of course the Old Met had one. Is there a good reason why they are not being used any more. Thanks.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 11:56 AM by Tom D. Highlight this comment 137

Tom, I could be wrong but I think it has to do with sight lines.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 12:03 PM by hugh morris Highlight this comment 138

DreDogg - The reason it's not bigger is because of the regulations the project would have to meet because it would become "a tunnel". In fact, they had to go back and fit the overpass for tunnel grade laws because the inspectors went back on their word.

The city already bogged down the Plaza constructions with so many regulations, it would be a pretty costly project to expand the already brand new plaza.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 12:40 PM by OG Jeff Highlight this comment 139

Webcam 1 shows grass being cut for 1st time

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 12:44 PM by PNB19 Highlight this comment 140

yeah, with cantilevered designs those deep under the overhangs can't follow the flight of the ball as well - as well as see the huge modern day video boards and such. The standard Populous seating bowl reflects this, which unfortunately pushes the upper deck farther from the action. The other option to canitlevers is of course support columns, which nobody really has the balls to design in to a modern park - and I can't blame them.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 12:44 PM by some guy Highlight this comment 141

Truth Hurts,

As Nigel Tufnel so eloquently said, "there's a fine line between stupid and clever." Posting a sarcastic comment in which we can all laugh along with you is clever. Posting a comment so you can laugh at all of us is stupid.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 12:47 PM by Faber College Alum Highlight this comment 142

Does anyone where read? That's three people now that said the grass is being cut. We know!

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 12:51 PM by Camden Highlight this comment 143

never has watching grass grow been so intoxicating.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 12:56 PM by tim Highlight this comment 144

That haberdashery degree from Faber College has apparently gotten you far.

War Mongols! War Rube cats!

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 12:56 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 145

Well Camden, if you are like me, I keep this thread open all day at work and you don't see if someone has typed something unless you refresh. So, when I made my post, I then saw 4 new posts before mine. That is probably why this happens.

By the way...they are cutting the grass. ;-)

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 12:57 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 146

Hey look everyone, they're cutting the grass.

Hey look everyone, there's a train on the train tracks.

Hey look everyone, in the executive office bathroom, there's Billy Smith taking a dump.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 1:10 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 147

they stopped cutting the grass...is this a problem with the mower?

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 1:12 PM by common man Highlight this comment 148

He's not "taking a dump" he's "sending someone down to AAA".

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 1:21 PM by ThatsRich Highlight this comment 149

This is why we need Toro Cam.

War Edwin Budding!

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 1:22 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 150

Toro Cam! Could you imaging the frenzy if there was a camera on the mower?

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 1:25 PM by Jared Highlight this comment 151

maybe brett farve called in and said he would mow the rest?

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 1:35 PM by Miller Highlight this comment 152

maybe it's the bolts on the mowers? that's my tax dollars!

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 1:39 PM by tim Highlight this comment 153

Did anyone catch this little tidbit that Ozzie Guillen might be ripping of the number counting down to outdoor baseball at the game tonight? You gotta love the guy!! :)

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 1:46 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 154

Not nearly the rube frenzy that would be created by Larry DiVito Helmet Cam.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 1:46 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 155

Ozzie rocks. I hope he is available the next time the Twins are shopping for a manager. A much better quote than Gardy!

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 2:06 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 156

I have added a few of the other panorama images we took. Didn't turn out as well as the first ones but still illustrate good perspective anyway.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 2:41 PM by Jared Highlight this comment 157

Ozzie is an awesome coach. I would love to have him here, although I doubt the Twins org would like that. They prefer the quiet, fly-below-the-radar, "we're-just-midwest-poorboys" type of leadership. Ozzie would come in here and shake things up, start asking the brass to make moves, etc...

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 3:07 PM by OG Jeff Highlight this comment 158

Rick,
I have a good question. Where are they going to place the infield Tarp when it's not raining? Great pixs

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 3:49 PM by dave Highlight this comment 159

I just noticed from the webcam that the old T&Y gas station/car wash next to Metro Transit HQ is gone. I was thinking that would be the next Bobby & Steve's (in terms of a popular place to go after games). Anyone know of any development plans for that site?

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 3:50 PM by Andy G Highlight this comment 160

There was talk about remodeling that gas station and making it more like a Bobby & Steve's. There was even talk about using the same or similar limestone that Target Field is using to help tie it in with the ballpark. I was imagining that they would have just fixed things up here and there, not completely tear it down. Either it was in really rough shape or maybe they scratched the idea all together. Anyone have news on this?

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 4:28 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 161

It's gonna turn into a Holiday station any day now...

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 4:34 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 162

Look you see "the truth hurts" in his moms basement slapping his knee after another witty comment that only his online frends that play warcraft or whatever the hell that shit is called think is funny...

Luke is no longer the annoying poster on here anymore its the dude that listened to KFAN way to much today and has the word RUBE tattooed on his arse...

The TRUTH does hurt doesent it?

Thanks Luke for letting me use your name in this posting!

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 4:51 PM by Mazaratirick Highlight this comment 163

Mazaratirick - never was it my intention to be the "annoying poster" on here...lol.

And, yes, I agree, using the word "rube" ad nauseum is a sign that someone does listen to KFAN waaay too much and should switch the station every now and again to 'CCO, or KSTP or better yet, KQ. It's all about balance people.

Dave, the tarp conversation has appeared from time to time around here. The obvious place would be foul territory, like every other MLB park. But with as little foul territory as TF has, it would propose the possiblility for lots of ran-into-the-tarp injuries, trying to catch that fly ball.

It's been suggested that they will be placed in the left field service area (where that big gap is).

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 4:59 PM by luke Highlight this comment 164

Luke,

I used your name just cuz people here seem to give you the busness sometimes...

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 5:13 PM by Mazaratirick Highlight this comment 165

Saw a game at Wrigley Saturday. Upper deck section 514(the highest section) 2nd row. Great seats between 3rd and home. As usual, looked for empty speats from where we were sitting in or around the 6th inning. Taking note of where they were, we looked again at bottom of 7th. Still empty. Moved on down to the middle part of lower level. Any lower and ushers will slice you with a knife. If people leave the game early, as far as I'm concerned, they are open for the taking. I do this all the time. But I do wait until the late innings.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 5:36 PM by JohnF Highlight this comment 166

JohnF-

The problem is that you don't know for sure if those people left early. Maybe they are wondering about the park, taking pictures or whatever. They shouldn't have to come back and find someone else sitting in their seats. Now, if you notice them ACTUALLY on their way out of the park and they give you their tickets, go for it.

I'm sorry, but I have a real problem with fans who feel as if they are somehow entitled to sit in seats they didn't pay for. There's nothing more infuriating than seeing someone else sitting in your seats when you get there. I don't like having to tell people to beat it...and it's happened to me on more than one occassion. If you want those seats, pay for them.

Like I said before, with an open concourse at TF, hopefully people will understand that you can still wander the park and view the game from different perspectives without jumping into seats that aren't yours.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 5:54 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 167

Rick, Luke, et al,
does anyone know what the deal with that "left field service area gap" is? That is going to be seating during the games, is it not?

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 6:18 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 168

On the Twins pregame show they are about to show the grass being mowed at Target Field. Using Toro equipment of course.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 6:38 PM by twinlves Highlight this comment 169

Larry D just said on the pregame that they only mowed what was put in first last week, so i'm guessing that centerfield we be mowed tomorrow.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 6:41 PM by twinlves Highlight this comment 170

When Kauffman Stadium first opened in KC back in 1973 (Then known simply as 'Royals Stadium'), the tarp roll was kept in a compartment beneath the stands past the first base dugout. Since they have since constructed field level suites at that location, the tarp now sits exposed in foul territory just past the suite.
Is it possible that there is some sort of compartment for the purpose of storing the tarp at Target Field? Or are the stands too close to field level to accomplish this?

Speaking of field level suites, I see they have field level suites BEHIND THE BENCHES at Cowboys Stadium. Unless the Cheerleaders are going to be prancing around directly behind the benches, the sight of spandex-clad 300 pound linemen's butts doesn't seem like it would be worth the price.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 6:52 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 171

Me thinks somebody is trying to compensate for some shortcoming by including a sports car in his handle. But thanks for the compliment. When you post something insightful or witty on here I'll be sure to publicly note it. Until then, me and the dancing rube cats will just ... take ... a ... nap ...OH LOOK! THE RED DOT IS BACK ON THE WALL!!"

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 7:10 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 172

OGJeff - they built the plaza specs to meet code for a tunnel so theoretically they could cover the entire thing if they wanted to.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 7:49 PM by IowaWigman Highlight this comment 173

the truth hurts - actually, unless i am mistaken the nickname "maserati rick" is a reference to a felonious detroit drug king-pin from the 1980's whose real name was richard carter. not a reference to the italian car.

our mazarati rick spells it a little differently, but i think that is who he is referencing.

anyways, to maz's MAIN point the attempt at satire and witty, backhanded comments in practially every post you make does get a little "tiring" at times. but, to each his own i guess......

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 8:02 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 174

The Chicago press got a tour of the stadium today. Pictures included.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 8:08 PM by downfall Highlight this comment 175

Beta, and thetruthhurts...

I could be wrong, but would it be possible that Mazaratirick is named so, because he drives a Mazarati sports car?

Just puttin' that one out there...

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 8:34 PM by luke Highlight this comment 176

Betaband, I can respect a response like that. Regardless, Mazarati remains a prime contender for King Kitty of the DRC in my book. But that's just my opinion which, as we know, is like a bumhole.

Which brings up this point. You don't have to read every post. I'm surprised most rubes read anything that DOESN'T have a picture accompanying it, personally. And I'm not calling everyone a rube. If you're offended by that comment then you're calling yourself one.

War Mr. Sparkplug, aka, Denard Span. War The Manship on his virgin voyage.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 8:45 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 177

That's the best gallery I've seen in a LONG time, BUT...

The Twins give away the Rod Carew a-ha moment to the White Sox media team??? WTF??? That seriously bites.

(I've been sitting on images of that mural for months out of respect for the team's wishes. No more of that, I can assure you.)

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 8:46 PM by Rick 178


Bring on your forbidden images. Let's get them all out there.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 8:50 PM by Rick 179

The Twins clubhouse:

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 8:52 PM by Rick 180

Beta,
you win! i do not have a sports car, the moniker is from the d-boy him self ... my name is also rick...

TTH,

please not offended just pointing out that you post random crap just to get a rise out of people, i would hate to see what your twitter page looks like ( I am sitting in a chair** 9:45pm)

thanks luke i wish i could afford such a nice car.. they are beasts!

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 9:15 PM by Mazaratirick Highlight this comment 181

Rick I hope this is a lesson learned...

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 9:19 PM by Max Highlight this comment 182

Jose Morales is the man! He deserves to be kept on the team for good.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 9:58 PM by DeePee Highlight this comment 183

Rick has thrown down the gauntlet. Hand-dryer images, we await thee.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 9:59 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 184

all he has done is hit!, dump redman now

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 10:04 PM by Mazaratirick Highlight this comment 185

does anyone else think that divito feels like a rock star right now?

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 10:14 PM by Mazaratirick Highlight this comment 186

Redman's days as a Twin are done. I love the guy, don't get me wrong but he is certainly turning into one of those Tom Berenger/Kevin Costner type of catchers. Bring him in as a coach and make room for the kid, the man, the MORALES!

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 10:29 PM by DeePee Highlight this comment 187

You just lifted the spirits of quite a few deployed MN National Guard soldiers serving in Iraq. We can't wait to be there for the 'Opener! ~Dexter

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 11:00 PM by dexteb01 Highlight this comment 188

I would remind the "yea morales, nay redmond" crowd that ol red had a triple and an rbi single in sunday's game?

btw - not that it's true of this board, but a big stubby middle finger in the eye of all of the anti-cuddyer folks out there.

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 11:13 PM by CJ Highlight this comment 189

Are you guys talking about a rapper, or a baseball player? His name is Redmond. And he's a gamer. Don't forget that as a backup catcher he hit an incredibly significant .341 in the Twins amazing '06 division championship season, when Mauer hit .347, and over the course of the next two years when Mauer hit .293 and .328, Redmond also protected the catcher's spot in the lineup with his own .294 and .287 seasons. Even Mauer has commented on how impressed he is with Redmond's ability to go out there and contribute to the team when he only has the chance to do it once every 4-6 days. So don't trash him Mazarati.
That being said, I like Morales too, let's just not go throwing our valued players under the bus...

Posted on September 1, 2009 at 11:59 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 190

Ha! I can't believe I wrote Redman too! Oh well. I have historically been a huge REDMOND fan and I definitely smelled many a deliciously aromatic RBIs over his years in a Twink uni. But my point is that it may soon be time to make some permanent room for the new kid who is showing quite a bit of potential.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 06:23 AM by DeePee Highlight this comment 191

I have refrained from playing the "tax paid" card for this stadium but I too am dissappointed by the way the Twins communications and the Stadium Commission have delivered on this "public" project. And, of course, you can never depend on most of the news media for providing even basic coverage of a story. What is this, some big secret? Good job Rick.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 07:51 AM by Tommy Highlight this comment 192

infield has been mowed

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 08:16 AM by hugh morris Highlight this comment 193

I'm a little bummed that this backup catcher talk is taking away from that scintillating tarp storage thread.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 09:29 AM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 194

they stopped cutting the grass...is this a problem with the mower?

I was reading this post today and followed the grass cutting back forth and this quote made laugh. Love the site. thanks

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 09:58 AM by j2eepgmr Highlight this comment 195

is it me or are they kicking some a$$ on the seat installation today?

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 10:10 AM by Erik Highlight this comment 196

Erik - I was thinking the same thing. It also appears that they have brought boxes down to the Dugout Box section on the 3rd base side so they can finish up the seats there as well. Truck must have came in.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 10:13 AM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 197

Rick - You need to realize that this "picture ban" the Twins are trying to enforce on you is completely ludicrous. They simply don't like the fact that you aren't mainstream media, so they're trying to handcuff you. You've abided by their wishes by not publishing certain pieces of info and visuals. In return they don't invite their best reporter to media events, they grant out-of-town reporters greater access and privilege and randomly post galleries of the so-called "AHA" moments they tell you to keep quiet about. To hell with their demands.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 10:13 AM by OG Jeff Highlight this comment 198

"Scintillating tarp storage thread." Only on this site would those words be uttered. Classic, Badjuggler! I think you should frame that one up and throw it on the most public wall you can find!

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 10:21 AM by DeePee Highlight this comment 199

Twins to 'christen' TF with two exhibition games vs. the Cardinals April 2-3. Click name for Strib story, if interested.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 10:26 AM by Andy G Highlight this comment 200

New grass-cutting gallery on Twins site. Click link

You've got to be pleased with the Twins efforts on the photo galleries over the last month or so.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 10:29 AM by Mike Brumley Highlight this comment 201

I like the rebellious side of you Rick. Keep it up!

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 10:35 AM by Lafferty Highlight this comment 202

larry devito action shots. that grass is a nice dark shade, looking great. will be cool to see pujols try and christen target field with its first homerun. get there early for batting practice.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM by tim Highlight this comment 203

OK, I've taken a deep breath. Maybe this isn't the first time these areas (Carew Atrium and Twins clubhouse) have been seen. I can't possibly see every photo gallery that's out there. I'm overreacting.

I mean, surely the Twins would never knowingly give away a-ha moments to out-of-town media (especially the White Sox!!) while withholding them from the locals. That just wouldn't make sense. Either it's already out there or somebody was just asleep at the switch.

And just so we're clear, it is my own sense of fairness and respect for the team which has guided my decisions on what to publish or not. In return I've gotten basically squat for nine months.

Now I'm starting to think more about the stories that I've been holding close. This may be the time to start really digging into those.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 10:43 AM by Rick 204

And an alert to fellow church musicians: Those two exhibition games are scheduled for Good Friday and Holy Saturday. (Sigh.)

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 10:47 AM by Rick 205

Let it all out Rick...it's time...

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 10:47 AM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 206

I'm wondering if the gates are painted like the champagne color already prevalent through the park? Or if they are painting a different color. I'm contrasting these gates to TCFBS gates. I think the black with the maroon and gold "M" is classy and pretty. I see there are plates that look like there could be something painted in those gates. I look forward to those finishing touches.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 10:51 AM by j2eepgmr Highlight this comment 207

Twins to open Target Field vs. Cardinals. Click my name for strib story.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 10:55 AM by hugh morris Highlight this comment 208

I'll probably be the only one to tell Rick to not post what he agreed to not post. (But feel free to e-mail it to me!). The Twins have allowed Rick to see somethings that the rest of us cannot, and I would hate to see him lose that opportunity in the future (as more and more is done inside). Who knows what they may allow him to do as they get closer and closer to opening day. The Twins have been quite responsive in increasing their own pictures.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 11:00 AM by Camden Highlight this comment 209

Camden,

The Twins cut me off without explanation about nine months ago. Then they started bad-mouthing me to tour groups and other individual fans. I'm still not sure what I did.

That Ballpark Authority, on the other hand, has been very kind to me.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 11:15 AM by Rick 210

I just said time to dump redman, thats a lil far from "trashing him" wold say, cant carry 3 catchers with a pitching staff like this...

the gates are a white or tan color , when they are shut 2 halfs of the state of minnesota come together to create the .. umm dont know what it is called.. like a door knob, just click my name.. i snapped thisthe other night with my crappy blackberry

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 11:19 AM by Mazaratirick Highlight this comment 211

Door pull. These might yet get painted is my thought.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 11:24 AM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 212

the gates are a white or tan color....

That is cool!!! I have not seen that detail yet. I do hope they are painted tho. That state of Minnesota shape should stand out more. IMHO of course.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 11:27 AM by j2eepgmr Highlight this comment 213

Time laps of Sod installation, you can really see how fast the field drained after some rain.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 11:56 AM by Camden Highlight this comment 214

that twins gallery looks like a toro advertisment

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 12:01 PM by Eric in TX Highlight this comment 215

Question #2

What are the plans for the gold #34 seat in the dome? Are they leaving it there, or do they plan on displaying it somewhere in TF?

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 12:03 PM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 216

Camden,

That's where webcam #2 needs to be positioned!

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 12:04 PM by Chad Highlight this comment 217

DreDogg,

I heard a rumor they were going to install Puckett's seat in one of his more notorious hangouts: one of the men's restroom stalls.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 218

I'm pretty sure it'll be in the Puckett Atrium of the Legends club. Also on that link if you look at the other videos there is a similar video from center field.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 12:18 PM by Camden Highlight this comment 219

That's cold DreDogg. Even though he had some personal issues near the end there, you still got love everything he did for sports here in MN.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 12:34 PM by DeePee Highlight this comment 220

Sorry Dredogg. I meant to say that's cold to The Truth Hurts, not to you.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 12:36 PM by DeePee Highlight this comment 221

Sorry Dredogg. I meant to say that's cold to The Truth Hurts, not to you.

Don't feed the troll.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 12:40 PM by strategery Highlight this comment 222

Not as cold as the big, inflatable Kirby they have at the State Fair booth. One thing's for sure, Kirby is a much less complicated figure now...

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 12:41 PM by Rick 223

thought i'd read the "reader comments" after that blurb on the strib and pioneer press sites about those exhibition games....the garbage burner/retractable roof whining makes me almost with they'd make people pay to read content.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 12:52 PM by tim Highlight this comment 224

To describe the Strib comments section as a "cesspool" would be an insult to sanitation workers everywhere.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 12:59 PM by Rick 225

If you look at the "Like this comment" though, most of the pro-roof are getting like 1 of 8 likes. The Anti-roofs just aren't bothering to comment and are clicking no.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 1:04 PM by Camden Highlight this comment 226

I noticed on my lunchtime walk that they are working on the very tip of the canopy. Pretty much done. To me, watching the scaffolding process on the canopy has been the most amazing part of this whole operation. I never saw them actually moving the scaffolding, but it just sort of followed them around it. Very impressive.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 1:06 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 227

It looks like Mr. Devito used the walk-behind reel mower to mow the entire outfield. That is a large task - I'm wondering if the riding mower is too heavy for the fragile new sod.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 1:13 PM by Steeks Highlight this comment 228

Oops, looking at web cam images, it looks like they rolled the area, not mowed it.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 1:18 PM by Steeks Highlight this comment 229

is it me or is anyone else sitting indoors today insanely jealous of devito's job? what does he do all winter, go to grass-growing seminars in bermuda?

There's an inflatable Kirby? they must have used an entire hotair balloon just to make his neck.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 1:46 PM by mplsgreg Highlight this comment 230

How can you discount a man assaulting a woman in a restroom? "Oh, you should overlook that because he helped bring two world championships to Minnesota--cut him some slack??" Puckett did do some incredible things on the playing field, no doubt. So did Michael Vick and O.J. Simpson.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 1:50 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 231

Greg,

He stays in town for the initial snow falls then heads out to Kentucky for some winter meetings. Then on to Fort Meyers in early February.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 1:59 PM by Camden Highlight this comment 232

Trade jobs? Umm, I HATE mowing my lawn. Every damn time.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:02 PM by Rick 233

The best part of having kids is that when they turn 12 or 13 you can hand them the mower while you grab a cold beer, sit on the deck and point out the spots they missed.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:20 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 234

Dammit Nathan!!! WTF!?!

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:21 PM by DeePee Highlight this comment 235

I don't mind it much, kind of fun when you start mowing different patterns into it. I only do the front or back on one day, then do the other one on a different day.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:22 PM by Camden Highlight this comment 236

2 outs and then two solo jacks!?! I am heated!!!

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:24 PM by DeePee Highlight this comment 237

Way to go Joe Nathan!

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:24 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 238

Finally they pulled him. Come on Matty. I wanna see the Chisox last visit here end on a sour note!

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:29 PM by DeePee Highlight this comment 239

:(

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:32 PM by DeePee Highlight this comment 240

Well, that was ugly.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:34 PM by Chad Highlight this comment 241

Ouch. Twins just imploded after leading 2-0 with two outs in the ninth. Not often you see Joe Nathan do that -- just shows how stellar he really is 99 percent of the time.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:35 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 242

Token Twins choke job. Maybe it's the Twins that need to get out of the dome. Hopefully the wind will blow in from left at TF.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:35 PM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 243

This hurts...this really hurts...Nathan is turning into Eddie right before our eyes...

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:38 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 244

what is it about john gordon's voice that makes me want to smash my radio?

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:46 PM by tim Highlight this comment 245

Stick a fork in the Twins there done!

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:47 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 246

Nathan gets overworked easily. We saw this type of collapse with the first game of the series against the Yanks in New York as well. If pitches too much consecutively then he starts to throw meatballs and can't find the strike zone. Detroit better lose tonight or else I am gonna be real pissed.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:48 PM by DeePee Highlight this comment 247

Clublevelfan, here is the youtube video of the marriage proposal denial at the Twins game the other day. I actually know this guy...

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:53 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 248

deepee i was wondering the same thing... the old rule with Aggie was two days in a row - three in extreme circumstances... there was a reason TK had that rule

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:54 PM by CJ Highlight this comment 249

Everybody has bad outings. Except Nathan. Except every once in a while.
The guy's a rock.

How much do you want to bet that Ozzie said something to fire everybody
up so that their last memory of the Metrodome wouldn't be a sweep?

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:54 PM by Rick 250

trosy - any context that would make me feel not completely terrible for that guy??? was that something he shouldn't have done? i've gotta say that was depressing as hell to watch

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:56 PM by CJ Highlight this comment 251

That proposal looks staged. trosy29?

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 2:58 PM by Rick 252

CJ - The guy works for our company, I don't know him very well though. I do have a feeling that it might have been staged.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 3:00 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 253

trosy - any context that would make me feel not completely terrible for that guy??? was that something he shouldn't have done? i've gotta say that was depressing as hell to watch

I think it's pretty clearly a put on.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 3:02 PM by strategery Highlight this comment 254

I will try to get to the bottom of the proposal and I'll let everyone know...I agree with you guys, it does look staged. If so, kinda funny, kinda pathetic at the same time.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 3:17 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 255

That's a lot of work to go through for some free beer...

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 3:26 PM by Rick 256

that was my feeling too - reminds of a couple of different sites that do this sort of thing for comedy...

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 3:26 PM by CJ Highlight this comment 257

Why is this being debated? It's plainly staged, even more so than the fake Twins commercial at the Dome where the guys pants fell down.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 3:28 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 258

That loss stings. The usually reliable do not come through which is dissapointing to say the least.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 3:31 PM by NewGuy Highlight this comment 259

I sure hope we come back on all cylinders this weekend. If not, it's gonna be a long September...

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 3:33 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 260

Why the slap in the face? What did he do, ask her if he could marry her sister? There's so much of this kind of faked stuff out in the media, I believe this too was staged.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 3:35 PM by JohnF Highlight this comment 261

I've actually hear that the Puckett seat might not be anywhere in Target Field. I wish it was though...

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 3:44 PM by Twins Territory Highlight this comment 262

whatever "IT" is i fear that joe nathan may have lost "IT" in the last couple weeks. is it a mental issue? something wrong with his arm? will joe nathan get "IT" back? let's certainly hope so as this bullpen is already suspect enough.

let's go cleveland......

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 4:02 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 263

Yep. It's official, it was staged. Side note: he was one of the installers that installed the TC logo on the floor of the players entrance lobby at Target Field. The flooring in the lobby is Terrazzo and the TC logo is made from terrazzo. Pretty cool. If you don't know what terrazzo is: ntma.com

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 4:07 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 264

Gladden and Gordon were talking about this the other day, pointing ouot that August has historically always been Nathan's weakest month. Obviously, he has not changed the page on his calendar yet.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 4:07 PM by Rick 265

Hey Truth Hurts, I'm not sure why everyone else on here is letting you get away with your verbal diarrhea, but I'm not going to. What's really amazing is that unlike having to "think before you talk," you actually have the opportunity to read the retarted ass shit you write before clicking on "post," and yet you still decided to. Truly amazing.
But let's talk about said retarded verbal diarrhea you imparted unto us today. First of all, OJ is a dirtbag murderer who actually KILLED two people. Vick may as well be, he let bloodthirsty pitbulls tear innocent and smaller dogs to shreds simply in order to "pump them up" for the actual fights. And Kirby? He had some rough times in his life and let a single situation get out of hand, and did something stupid. He probably wasn't in a completely clear presence of mind either. Not that that is an excuse, but OJ and Vick knew exactly what they were doing when they committed their violent, bloody, inexcusable, evil crimes. A far, far cry from someone making a mistake.
Next time you feel like making a completely asinine comparison between apples and oranges, or in this case between black and white murder and a very grey case of harrassment, "think before you speak" is good advice. THINK BEFORE YOU POST is too.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 4:15 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 266

Long time no post...

Anyway - here is a link to some new photos from the ChicagoTribune,

Can't wait!

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 5:39 PM by Excited Highlight this comment 267

I didn't mean to scare anyone away from posting with such a serious-natured comment. It's just that Truth put his foot a little too far into his mouth this time, and I was seriously pissed to read that bull. And almost as pissed that no one else called him out on it.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 5:48 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 268

No one called him on it because they probably figured that if he was ignored long enough, he'd go away. Didn't work, though.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 6:17 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 269

Off-Topic: Does anybody know where one could find video/audio of Kirby Puckett's Retirement speech or Hall of Fame speech?

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 6:51 PM by Twins Territory Highlight this comment 270

I would assume you can find it on you tube...

for the record Kirby was aquitted in that case... maybe not the best husband in the world but as far as i am concerend he is no tree jumper,

i am more ashamed of the people of minnesota that turned ther backs on him when he was accused of this. he was outcasted...and that was a shame... i have herd just as many rumors and stories about that night that it was a set up for money...

as someone said earier in a post.. dont feed to trolls.....

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 7:23 PM by Mazaratirick Highlight this comment 271

*the Trolls

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 7:24 PM by Mazaratirick Highlight this comment 272

Yeah, I've watch a lot of the great videos on You Tube. I'm hoping to download footage primarily of his retirement speech with the quote, "Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow is not promised to any of us."

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 7:25 PM by Twins Territory Highlight this comment 273

I see a Squad Car just inside the gates on the plaze in RF on the 7pm Webcam. Is this approximately where you saw the cops the other night Maz?? You musta been quite the Ninja to outsmart the Minneapolis PD....

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 7:25 PM by Max Highlight this comment 274

Has anybody else noticed that all the trailers and other materials have been removed from the parking lot on the opposite side of 7th street as seen on web cam #1? We are now seeing the cleanup of the entire site. On the 14th picture("Gate 34 Pukett") there's even guy scrubbing down the plaza with a buffer type hand held machine. I realize there is internal work to be done, but it sure seems to me that this park is ahead of schedule. Anybody heard anything on this?

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 8:01 PM by JohnF Highlight this comment 275

Opps, sorry misspell above "PUCKETT"

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 8:05 PM by JohnF Highlight this comment 276

what are those lights doing under the canopy? are they going to always be there or are they just set up for some kind of work to be done? It looks awesome all lit up though

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 8:33 PM by Erik Highlight this comment 277

They lay down cardboard that the workers must walk upon, but the cops can drive a cruiser across the plaza?

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 8:41 PM by Third Webcam Highlight this comment 278

Just in doing some searching, I did not find a YouTube video for Puck's retirement or HOF speech. Lots of "tributes" and "retrospectives" but no speech from baseball's "Great One."

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 9:37 PM by luke Highlight this comment 279

That car can be seen pulling onto the Plaza from 7th Street at 5:00pm, and is still there at 9:30pm. They must be hired for overnight security?

I bet those lights under the canopy are permanent.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 9:41 PM by David_Mpls Highlight this comment 280

Max,

yea to be honest it was not that hard, doubt the cop was even paying attention.. man sitting there for hours in the dark im sure he was just playing with his laptop or something...

Then agian it to scare the sh$t out of me lol and that was the first time i felt like i was "going down"

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 10:00 PM by Mazaratirick Highlight this comment 281

Go away? Why would I go away? This site is awesome. Rick does one hell of a job. Last time I checked, this was an OPINION BOARD. If you don't like my opinion, that's fine. I may not like yours. The Twins are my team. I wish them well. But I don't drink the Kool-Aid like many on here. If "theloniousjoe" can sleep better tonight because he "put me in my place" so be it. May his dreams be filled with leaping Kirbys and purple unicorns. Winona Mike is right. Some probably were annoyed and ignored it -- and for most others it really didn't get under their skin like it did yours, Joe. Relax, man. It's only a game. (I think Walt Whitman wrote that, right Rick? ;)

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 10:41 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 282

About the field tarp... Met stadium... One long roll under right field fence... one guy driving a little tractor pulling out said tarp.
Pretty easy!! No tarp on field, no injury factor to worry about.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 10:46 PM by hans Highlight this comment 283

(no tarp stored on field, that is) ;)

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 10:48 PM by hans Highlight this comment 284

The Truth Hurts needs a girlfriend.

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 10:55 PM by Wanda Phillips Highlight this comment 285

butthurts,

theloniousjoe got under your skin? relax man, it's only a blog...

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 11:23 PM by dirwin7 Highlight this comment 286

butthurts,

Since "You don't have to read every post. I'm surprised most rubes read anything that DOESN'T have a picture accompanying it" (TTH) I'll post the exact same thing again so there's a better chance you get to read it.

theloniousjoe got under your skin? relax man, it's only a blog

Posted on September 2, 2009 at 11:28 PM by dirwin7 Highlight this comment 287

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but the Twins posted, yet another update today. This update shows two different time lapse videos of the sod installation from a centerfield perspective and 3B perspective.

Very cool watching the different sprinkler 'zones' working as well as the sunrise/sunsets and shadows throughout the day.

Kudos to the Twins for the frequent updates in recent weeks. Hopefully they continue the updates as the interior takes shape and is finished over the next few months. But again, it wouldn't surprise me if we don't see a single update for 6-8 weeks once the offseason is here.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 01:21 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 288

Why would you go away, truth? Well, how about because if this is an opinion board like you say, and no one here really respects your opinion (as is quite evident by the recent posts), then the question is, why would you stay?

This technically is not an opinion board, though. This is Rick's blog. And this part down here where he graciously allows us all to share our thoughts is the "comments" section of his blog. I didn't see any titles on this webpage saying "opinion forum." So in my view, we are all guests on Rick's blog, and as such, we should try to be somewhat respectful of each other, and of Minnesota's, and the Twins' heroes.

We're not talking about drinking any kind of Kool-Aid here, truth. This isn't about idol-worship. And this isn't some trivial argument about something inconsequential, so don't just try to shrug or laugh it off with that contrived "it's only a game" crap. We're not talking about any game here (in these Puckett-related posts). We're talking about you being so insensitive and disrespectful to the memory of an icon, not to mention way off-base. I'm not trying to say he was a perfect person and we should all just ignore the mistakes people make, but he was a very good and kind person. I had the pleasure of meeting him, and of all the famous people, athletes/musicians/stars that I've had the opportunity to meet, he was unusual in his down-to-earth and humble nature. Comparing Kirby Puckett, who by all accounts is the most loved and revered figure in Twins' history (and for that matter probably Minnesota sports history), to lowlifes like Michael Vick and OJ Simpson is beyond stupid, irresponsible, short-sighted, and foolish, and and I'm willing to bet that I'm far from the only person whose skin your ignorant comments got under, Truth.

I don't so much care about putting you in your place for my sake, I'm not going to feel better for it, in other words. I just felt compelled to stick up for Kirby's honor, as cheesy as that may sound. But you're the one who said "he 'put me in my place.'" If you truly feel that way, then I'm glad. From your last comment it seems like you're trying to cover up the fact that you feel stupid for what you wrote. And you should feel stupid for what you wrote.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 02:08 AM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 289

But moving on...(hopefully)...

Did any of you notice the protective pad that was laid into place on the plaza right before the squad car showed up? It actually shows up for the first time behind the Metropolitan Club (in the video shot) at 2:40 pm last Friday afternoon, the day the grass was finished. The cop car shows up for the first time on Friday afternoon in the 5:10 pm shot on the webcam. I'm thinking the pad is there to protect the plaza from oil/coolant/other leaking and/or staining of the plaza, so it's not like they're just letting squad cars drive around out there willy-nilly.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 02:18 AM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 290

Erik,
Those lights under the canopy (on the outside) have to be just temporary. They're awfully bright, almost as bright as the ones they had on the field last week for the sod installation. I'll bet they're for some maintenance or finishing touches they were doing to the canopy, since they turned them off around midnight.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 02:25 AM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 291

Well, if I'm picking sides, I'll choose the side of an assault victim over a perpetrator. Have a great day, Joe.

Go Twins!

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 07:47 AM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 292

I would like propose banning the following phrases from this site:

1) "drinking the kool-aid"

2) rube

way overused. second?

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 08:39 AM by mplsgreg Highlight this comment 293

For those who were looking for Kirby's speech, here is Kirby's Hall of Fame page (click my name for link), straight from the Baseball HOF website. It includes a link to his acceptance speech, and also has a picture of his plaque and stats, as well as some other features like his '91 Game 6 homerun.

You can search for any Hall of Fame players and their related players by going to the tab at the top of the page "The Hall of Famers". Enjoy!!

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 08:43 AM by Dan Highlight this comment 294

To paraphrase a classic phrase: If The Truth Hurts, you're probably doing it wrong!

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 08:45 AM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 295

Anyone know what other than "TARGET FIELD" they're putting on the back of the scoreboard?

I drove by there this morning and it said "TAR
F E"

Or maybe I've just watched too much Wheel of Fortune, and it's not going to say "TARGET FIELD" at all.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 08:52 AM by Chad Highlight this comment 296

Mplsgreg, I agree about the ban on the use of "rube" as it only applies to Packer fans :-)

But "drinking the Kool-aid" is okay, if used sparingly. Just my opinion.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 08:54 AM by Dan Highlight this comment 297

Could be TAR (and) F E (ather), but that wouldn't make too much sense would it :-)

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 08:56 AM by Dan Highlight this comment 298

Chad,

Upper Case is yours, lower mine.

TARget FiEld

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 09:02 AM by Camden Highlight this comment 299

Well, I did know that part. Just curious of anything else was going up there along with it.:)

It would look weird with just "TARGET FIELD" considering the big space on the back of the scoreboard.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 09:21 AM by Chad Highlight this comment 300

the renderings show the name target field and the target bullseye logo, so i guess that's what is going up there.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 09:25 AM by tim Highlight this comment 301

Guys, the TARGET FIELD logo that is being installed on the back of the scoreboard is currently on the model.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 09:36 AM by OG Jeff Highlight this comment 302

I can't wait to see how the seats with the wood backs look...where are those seats going to be located again? and will we be able to see them on either of the web cams? thanks!

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 10:37 AM by Erik Highlight this comment 303

I was reading the MBA meeting meetings for August and came across this little nugget.

"Populous is designing the ‘triangle’ on the south side of Target and hope to finish before opening day."

What are they referring to here?

Click my name for the MBA August meeting minutes

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 10:53 AM by Jeff Highlight this comment 304

The Tradition Wall is finally sold out. Click my name for the press release.

From the press release.
"The wall features 2,400 personalized fan inscriptions, which will be etched prior to Opening Day 2010. Fans purchasing a space on the wall will receive a locator map to help them find their inscription."

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 10:57 AM by Jeff Highlight this comment 305

i think the triangle they're referring to is a little gravel triangle in the middle of the 7th st - 3rd ave intersection by target center with nothing on it.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 10:59 AM by mplsgreg Highlight this comment 306

would the triangle area be the area in Rick's "Plaza Trees" post that has the round concrete pedestal where the Killebrew statue will be, or the area right outside the Pro shop with some greenery already planted?

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 11:28 AM by Dan Highlight this comment 307

I 2nd that motion mplsgreg!

also can we ban words such as "ah ha moment" "truth" "punto" & "hurts"

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 11:35 AM by Mazaratirick Highlight this comment 308

Kirby Puckett never assaulted that woman and if you think he did yer nuts. My boss was at redstone that night and if anyone else ever hung out there you know this to be true. There was always a line to get into the mens room that took like 10 minutes to get through and it was always filled with people. There was no way a man dragged a woman kicking and screaming into a stall with everyone watching and nobody seeing it especially if it was Kirby Puckett. Believe what you want I believe he was aquitted.

Indeed the truth hurts.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 11:46 AM by moda253 Highlight this comment 309

when i was about 10 years old I went to twins fest and got an autograph from kirby pucket on a baseball I was carrying around. I said to him "you're my hero" and Kirby said back to me, "you know what...Someday you'll be my hero"

I'll never forget that, everyone has issues, especially it seems incredibly talented and competitive sports figures after they leave the game, it's like they are trying to find something to fill that void in their life, and I can understand that.

A lot like Steve Mcnair who recently passed in a situation that was not becoming of his overall character, Kirby brought a lot of joy to so many of our lives, I choose to remember the amazing things he did, like that day he said that to me at twins fest. I will never forget that, and when I look at my personal life and think I'm not on the right track, I honestly think back to what he said to me, and think how I could become that person.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 12:39 PM by dirwin7 Highlight this comment 310

what is up w/ that pieced-together art in the niches on the brick wall on the north side of the stadium?

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 12:47 PM by yeahklye Highlight this comment 311

the triangle they are talking about is over between o'donovans pub and the target center, a bit further down 7th.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 12:56 PM by tim Highlight this comment 312

yeahkyle-
I think this has all the information you need. (click my name for link).

Also, seeing the lights last night was pretty cool. I know someone mentioned potentially what they were for but I was wondering if anyone had more info on the purpose and if they would be there a few days or more? Most probably don't care, i just thought the way they lit up the canopy was pretty cool and was hoping they would be there a bit longer.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 12:57 PM by Jared Highlight this comment 313

I understand where the art panels will be, but please help me understand what the "Vertical Circulation Building Project" is.

Isn't the circulation building what is covered by the louvers on the 5th street side, and what exactly is the design? Where will this ribbon/star type piece of art going to be? I am not quite tracking with this artsy stuff. I like the rest of the TF architecture and landscaping, but this artwork just seems out of place.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 1:37 PM by Dan Highlight this comment 314

Thanks Tim, I will look for it when I drive by there tomorrow.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 1:38 PM by Dan Highlight this comment 315

vertical circulation buidling is on the NE corner of the park, on 5th, with access to the commuter rail platform below. the artwork will hang from the ceiling on the inside of this building.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 1:54 PM by tim Highlight this comment 316

Ok, then I won't probably ever see it, as I don't plan to use the commuter rail. I don't know if I will ever see the art panels either, unless I drive by in my car along 5th.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 1:57 PM by Dan Highlight this comment 317

From webcam 2, you can now see seats being removed from sec 101. I wonder how widespread this little problem is?

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 2:13 PM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 318

you are too funny dan! i mean it would be absolutely terrible for you to actually take a walk AROUND the ballpark once it opens and perhaps oh i don't know take a look at the vertical circulation building along with OTHER areas of the park. or God forbid you actually take a walk AROUND the OUTSIDE of the new ballpark once it opens.....maybe even to the 5th street side......that is if you have time and don't have to go to home depot on saturday (an "old school" reference for you).

so i nominate that dan wins the award for the second strangest comments of the day......first place was already captured by "the truth hurts".....two days in a row

;-)

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 2:28 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 319

IIRC 101 was the first section they did in the lower deck, and then they paused for a long time.

I would guess that they won't need to remove any sections installed recently, as they presumably figured out the problem during that long pause.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 2:34 PM by other guy Highlight this comment 320

Betaband, I am not sure what is so strange about my comments. I don't plan to use the commuter line at all, and I probably won't use light rail too much either, so it is unlikely I would have a reason to go to the transit building. There are other parts of the park that will demand more of my attention, as well as watching the game on the field

Also, I'm not sure what the Saturday trip to Home Depot reference is about....

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 2:44 PM by Dan Highlight this comment 321

A few things...

The "triangle" is located off the corner of Target Center where Seventh Str=eet meets Second Avenue. It's a great spot for tying the plaza to downtown.

The vertical circulation building connects the Northstar platform to the ba=llpark and allows commuters to get to the LRT platform even if nothing is g=oing on at the park.

The images I've seen of the art that is going in that space look pretty spe=ctacular. It will definitely be worth seeking out (though it may very well =be visible from the concourse out on that corner).

Mortenson has a great reputation for protecting their finished work, so it'=s no surprise that they put something underneath that cop car on the plaza.

And I can't believe that no one has tried to fix up Wanda with The Truth Hu=rts.

As for Kirby, the guy was a total class act, but, like a lot of former athl=etes, had trouble adjusting to retirement. Given what happened to his imag=e, the Twins are right to focus on his playing days.

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Posted on September 3, 2009 at 3:28 PM by Rick 322

Rick is there anyway to get an "ignore" feature here? Really getting tired of scrolling through all the B.S from a few "special" posters.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 4:01 PM by Lafferty Highlight this comment 323

I think Dan might be discovering that there are others here channeling The Truth Hurts

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 5:13 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 324

Why is there a police car on the plaza?

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 6:23 PM by Dave Highlight this comment 325

really good article about the Metrodome from cbs sports. click link

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 7:39 PM by some guy Highlight this comment 326

Dave, Ctrl+F "squad," "police," and "cop" on this post. We've been talking about it for a little while.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 8:16 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 327

In the link above about the Metrodome, I love the comment from the guy who says he's "still ticked off" that the Twins had home field advantage and got an extra game at home because back then they alternated every years home field by division instead of by record. The Twins won games 1 and 2 here. In Detroit, Twins won game 3, lost game 4 and then clinched at Tiger Stadium in game 5. More games were played in Detroit. They didn't need games 6 and 7. Someone should tell him the truth of the matter after all these years, so he won't die still being "ticked off".

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 8:28 PM by JohnF Highlight this comment 328

I'm referring to 1987 ACLS on above post.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 8:30 PM by JohnF Highlight this comment 329

Dan,
Betaband was just saying that your comments are too funny because it wouldn't hurt you to talk a leisurely stroll around the whole entire park one night once it opens, maybe after a ballgame or something, especially to see the parts that you would not normally have any practical purpose to see, like the LRT exit. We're getting more than a stadium here. It's not like this is the new Nationals' Park. This is going to be an architectural work of art, and it wouldn't hurt to take some extra time to appreciate it.

I don't want to speak for Betaband, but I think that's why he found your comments funny. And if not, that's why I found your comments funny...

: )

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 8:34 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 330

Oops Tigers won game 3. sorry

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 8:35 PM by JohnF Highlight this comment 331

T- Joe,

Thanks and I can see now a little better why you (and Betaband) thought my comments were funny. I don't necessarily think they were strange, but point taken.

Posted on September 3, 2009 at 11:02 PM by Dan Highlight this comment 332

In regards to the seat anchors, I guess my sources were not full of crap… Guess I should have pursued the alleged tour they were offering.

Posted on September 4, 2009 at 06:41 AM by grain-o-salt Highlight this comment 333

Here's the back of the scoreboard as of last night.

http://twitpic.com/gdh13

Posted on September 4, 2009 at 09:33 AM by Chad Highlight this comment 334

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The entrance at Gate 3.



Circulation ramps: Wrigley (classic, integrated) and Kauffman (modern, external)









Items promoting the Twins 2014 All-Star Game bid. I got to bring one of these buckets home, and Noah got his first-ever taste of Cracker Jacks.



Here's an idea of what these Loge Boxes are all about. That guy is a waiter with no fans to serve. They seemed to have one server for about every four boxes.









Rich Pogin (left) and Bruce Lambrecht (Source: Skyway News)






The creative design of the admin building stands in stark contrast to the horribly pedestrian appearance of the LRT platform. This design looks like it came out of a public transportation manual.



Walkway construction is progressing



Looking across the top of the B parking ramp. Notice that signage will block any attempts at seeing the game from up there. Also take note of the glassed in area which is part club and part office space for the Ballpark Authority.



A cold afternoon in 323, but we had our trusty Twins blanket -- made by my mom when Noah was born.



Now from the inside looking at the same area.









The view from the corner of Ford Centre. (Feel free to tie up your boats here.)






20 minutes to get from our seat to the street. Miss this place? Nah.



Plaza overview from the A ramp



Left field bench seating



This little pathway snakes between the LRT tracks and the Environmental Services Building, emptying into the parking area surrounding the HERC. It could be for maintenance, but it looks more like it's for convenience.






Approach in the A ramp to the skywalk over Seventh



Gate 29 Carew



Selling exactly what they say they're selling.






The first passengers are about to arrive, but the switch is set for the wrong track (those guys walked all the way out to correct it)



Playing surface dirt out there? Maybe. (click to enlarge)






Open house skeptics



An early concept for the pedestrial bridge. (Source: Ballpark Authority, RP)



After the rain. (We were in the wrong spot to see the rainbow...)



The HERC promenade side.



July 7, 1966 (Click to see the entire scorecard with ads)



The east wall of the building looks like it will be the first part completed. These are probably supports for the plaza, and they hug the very edge of the site.



This is the trapezoid (for lack of a better name) in right center. Be sure to notice section of seats just below the pavilion and above the fence (which I hadn't noticed before). For those who are interested, what looks like an old-style scoreboard is in fact a high-def video board which will look, at times, like an old-fashioned scoreboard.



I love views like this. They show just how much Target Field shimmers. (Photo by Jeff Ewer)



Dan Mehls, Mortenson Construction









Clemson Memorial Stadium



The seating bowl of Citizens Bank Park overlaid on the Target Field site



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This is a background image extracted from one of the blueprint pages. It's essentially a schematic of the park (Terrace Level). In it you can see the shape of the various seating areas (to a certain extent).



Carew atrium menu part 1






Photo by Tom Sweeney, Star Tribune





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BRT - Bus Rapid Transit

DSP - Dave St. Peter

FSE - Full Season Equivalent

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HERC - Hennepin Energy Resource Company (aka the Garbage Burner)

HPB - Home Plate Box

HRP - Home Run Porch

LC - Legends Club

LRT - Light Rail Transit

MBA - Minnesota Ballpark Authority (will own Target Field)

MOA - Mall of America

MSFC - Minnesota Sports Facilities Commission (owns the Metrodome)

NYS - New Yankee Stadium

SRO - Standing Room Only

STH - Season Ticket Holder

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