From the Plaza
July 19, 2008 12:33 AM
In case you missed it, here is the WCCO video report of the limestone installation. Sue Turner crams in a whole bunch of little details into a very succinct report. Despite the presence of four TV cameras, I think hers was the only actual video report.
Here are some of those details:
- Limestone installation will stretch into the summer of 2009
- 100,000 square feet of limestone (100 truck loads)
- Designed to emulate bluffs visible along the Mississippi (I'll have a photo soon for comparison purposes)
- The tone of the stone will be darkest at the bottom, lightest at the top (apparently makes the building look taller, though I don't know why they would need this)
- The stone formed between 435 and 480 million years ago
- There are about 300 panels in total
- The stone is quarried by Vetter Stone Company
If I can ever get it uploaded (I hate YouTube since Google took over and the lawsuits began), I'll link to the complete press conference with Dan Mehls, of Mortenson Construction. But not right now...
Now, here are a few more things I saw from the plaza the other day. Looking through my photos, I've probably got a few more days of juicy images for you. MOJO has the walk-around tour covered beautifully. Thanks, Chris!
There's really no way to describe the atmosphere of the plaza, even in its currently unfinished form. The steel which will be the restaurant dominates the view, but in a very good way. Its angles have a drama and excitement which draw you toward the field.
The large planters which are visible in the animation and the model are well underway. I was imagining small, portable planter boxes, but these are anything but small, and certainly not portable. They are huge! It will take a lot of dirt to fill them, and there will be lots of room for flowers or bushes or trees or whatever. Here are a couple of images.
Looking up toward Seventh Street.
Looking up toward Sixth Street.
A mysterious smile from within a very deep planter!
The view up Sixth Street was surprisingly muted, not what I expected at all. The skyway just overwhelms everything, forming something of a wall between the plaza and the city. This may be a good thing, but my first impression was a little bit of disappointment given how spectacular the reverse view is from inside the skyway.
(This is a little conundrum I seem to face all the time. Often, while driving on I-94 through Wisconsin, I'll spy a beautiful house on a beautiful hill and think, "I bet that's a great place to live." Then I realize that, no, it can't be because it's right next to a freakin' freeway!)
Like the restaurant, the Pro Shop is a stunner when viewed up close. Again, it draws you in, and, with the restaurant, defines the area where Gate 3 "Killebrew" will be located. It's a most welcoming place already.
The Pro Shop
Gate 3 "Killebrew"
I asked Kevin Smith if anything was settled yet about vendors on the plaza. He said they haven't even started working on that yet, but, with all that space, there would definitely be some.
"All that space" is right. Overall, the plaza reminded me immediately of a market I visited during a high school trip to Toledo, Spain. There the plazas are central to the towns or neighborhoods, and they are ringed on all sides with multi-story buildings while tiny streets snake off and disappear in various directions.
Two plazas in Spain. (Brad and I were pretending to steal coins from the fountain. We were all just so darn funny back in high school, eh?)
The plaza on the left above is actually in Madrid and contains a very large fountain (which is quite common). But you can see how the buildings form a solid barrier along the edge. They go all the way around, though the plaza area is quite large.
On the right is a cathedral plaza in Toledo which features tree plantings much like those which will be on the ballpark plaza.
In our setting, the parking ramps and Target Center (well, the skyway, actually) create the formal perimeter, and Sixth and Seventh streets do appear to slink off and disappear. It was a powerful effect -- I was transported back almost 30 years in a heartbeat.
I think it was also made more powerful by the knowledge that a year ago it was just open freeway there! This is a genuinely new and stunning public space for the city of Minneapolis. And it was created out of thin air!
This brings up a quick subject I wrote about long ago: traffic noise. There simply was none. Even with traffic moving at a normal clip below and around us, it was an utter non-factor. Construction noise may have covered some of it, but I made a point of trying to listen just for traffic, and had to strain to hear it.
Our tour of the plaza went all the way to the edge where the right field stands (the part with the overhang) will be. It's not there yet, but the view is spectacular.
New section labels, but some curious choices.
The Twins got the second half started tonight with a 6-0 win over Texas. I was there and had some brief game notes.
The first is something I've been meaning to mention all season. The Metrodome concourses got some new section indicators this year. They are lighted, highly visible, attractive, but lack the one very important piece of information which would have made them more useful than what was already there: Which end of the row am I entering at?
Ushers are forever looking at tickets and telling people to go out into the concourse and enter at the other end of the section. How many times have you tried to enter a section only to be greeted by a large group, tickets in hand, coming out to simply enter at the other end? Even tonight I advised a man holding seat 30 in my row that I was in seat 1, and he'd have to crawl over 29 people to get to his seat unless he exited and then reentered at the next door down.
There should be signs to indicate this: "Section 215 - Seat 1" or "Section 215 - Seat 30."
I know how the numbering works (seat 30 of section 201 is next to seat 1 of section 202, etc) but most people just don't get it. Signs are a simple solution.
We were sitting down the right field line -- the part of the dome where you can't see anything that happens in right field. It made me wonder if there will be a similar problem at the equivalent spot in the new ballpark. I don't have an answer for that yet.
We were also in row 11 of the upper deck. I did not buy these tickets, and probably would not have because I have learned that rows 10, 11 and 12 in the upper deck are the absolute worst for the sound system. Some sections fare better than others, but if there is a speaker directly in front of you and you are in one of these rows, forget about having any conversation between innings or before the game starts. It is just too loud. And blaring. And mind-bogglingly obnoxious.
LRT throngs after the game
I know that I shouldn't hate that between-innings announcer -- he's just doing his job -- but I do. His voice goes through me like a skewer when I'm in that Blaring Zone.
Can this be fixed? At the Dome, no. Thankfully, it will be a completely different scene in the new park. I have yet to ask any questions about the sound system, but I'm certainly curious.
I rode the LRT to the ballpark. I do this when I'm not in a hurry. Getting to the game is no problem. But after the game, oh boy! I waited for 45 minutes to get on a train. Even then, they were packed in like sardines. The lines stretched a long distance onto the plaza from the station.
It raised some serious concerns about the size of the platform at the new ballpark. This definitely merits further investigation.
Finally, one game-related thought.
I'm a purist at heart, but technology is good at solving some problems and should be incorporated in as unobtrusive a manner as possible. So, while I'm a fan of adding instant replay capabilities to the umpire staff, I am not a fan of the "fortress of solitude" strategy which has been proposed and could be making its debut any day now.
In case you are unfamiliar with it, a lone ump will sit in a windowless room with a million TV monitors and access to every TV camera in every ballpark for every game in progress. Then, when a call needs to be reviewed, the crew chief in the ballpark will call the super-ump by cell phone and ask for a review.
This is pretty stupid, if you ask me. MLB is convinced that it won't happen all that often, and that one ump should be able to handle whatever volume of work comes along. That's total BS. Once it's available there will be three questionable calls per game. And he'll get calls from five crew chiefs simultaneously. And he'll have to look at three angles on each play.
Stop the madness!
My first preference would be to simply show the replay on the scoreboard and let the umps look at it that way. No mystery. No delay. No fortress of solitude. The official scorer could oversee which replay or replays get shown. No game slowdown and the crowd is entertained by being essentially in on the process.
Barring that, it would be better to have an extra ump on every crew who sits in the booth watching replays. He would be available for an appeal just like when a catcher asks for an appeal on a check swing. He'd be watching replays all the time, and probably know the answer to any question which may be posed before he's ever called on.
If an appeal is called for, the crew chief just points to the booth and a hand pops out of the window with either an "out" fist or a "safe" hand or a home run "twirl" or whatever. Again, it's fast and consistent with the way the game has always been played.
I'm no expert on these things, but I know a kludgy solution when I see one, and the fortress of solitude approach is a big-time kludge. It will fail. Spectacularly.
All for Now
Enough of my rambling. Next up, I will have some concourse and escalator shots! I'll leave you with a sight that took our construction tour group a little by surprise.
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"I've never seen them do that before," said a Metropolitan Club waiter as I snapped this picture.
The limestone now wraps around onto the HERC side.
Hops! (conceptual only)
Seat logos in place
The Ballpark Wall! (really stunning)
Touring the Rapid Park site (L-R: Commissioners Wade, Vekich, Sykora, Cramer, and tour guide Chuck Ballentine, source: RP)
The scoreboard also towers over the LRT tracks, which now are functional (though not open) all the way to the park -- and beyond!
At left, across the tracks by that pile of dirt is where the Northstar commuter train platform will be built, and where Twins fans will apparently NOT be able to get a train after night games. (For reference, that's the Fifth Street bridge, with the ballpark site just beyond it. The east corner of Ford Centre is just visible at the right edge of the picture.)
In March, we were still only imagining baseball through those windows.
Here's a curious little room at the end of the circulation ramp. What could they be selling there?
Roll-up metal doors visible at right.
Franchise history before Minnesota. (Click to enlarge.)
Griffith Stadium (notch visible in lower photo at far left)
Seville's certainly will benefit from 81 games a year played about a block away! (When I walked by on this day, the place looked deserted, but I stand corrected!)
Legend's Club, Section E (Click to enlarge greatly.)
This looks toward the middle of the park. The third base side of the Legends Club is to the right up ahead, while the 573 Club is just barely visible at the end of the hallway. It extends to the left.
The rules were clearly posted next to this new entry point on the Seventh Street side. I have no problem with the rules!
This is as close as I could get to a pedestrian-eye view of Seventh Street (looking west away from downtown). It's inviting, not imposing, and remarkably dignified.
The right field foul pole seen against a backdrop of Butler Square (itself a site of great significance in the history of professional baseball in Minneapolis)
Gate 6 Oliva, with the 573 Club looming large over it (I wonder how Tony feels about that)
This is the back of the Cisco Field scoreboard, showing video to folks out on the plaza.
TC caps everywhere! (Is that you?)
Section A, Row WC
The action drew everybody to the top step. (Click to enlarge greatly.)
The littlest Twins fan: Truman
First, an overview. The base of the plaza here will meet the base of Sixth Street at Second Avenue.
"Hey, Ma, it says here we go in at gate 34. Must be all the way around on the other side!" Seriously, though, this is a really inspired idea.
I don't think this will remain a knothole, but the view is pretty cool.
Oh no! Beach ball! But click to enlarge so you can see the wide range of expressions on people's faces. (Photo by Jared Wieseler)
A sampling of seats at Fenway Park
BPM - Ballpark Magic
BRT - Bus Rapid Transit
DSP - Dave St. Peter
FSE - Full Season Equivalent
FYS - Fake Yankee Stadium (see also: NYS)
HERC - Hennepin Energy Resource Company (aka the Garbage Burner)
HPB - Home Plate Box
HRP - Home Run Porch
LC - Legends Club
LRT - Light Rail Transit
MBA - Minnesota Ballpark Authority (will own Target Field)
MOA - Mall of America
MSFC - Minnesota Sports Facilities Commission (owns the Metrodome)
NYS - New Yankee Stadium
SRO - Standing Room Only
STH - Season Ticket Holder
TCFBS - TCF Bank Stadium
TF - Target Field
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