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Magic, Indeed

August 23, 2011 11:19 PM

Setting aside the score, the listless play of the hometown nine, and the hot, muggy, buggy conditions, there was some definite magic at work at the old ballpark tonight:

From umpire Brian Knight, to catcher Matt Weiters, to pitcher Alfredo Simon, to the bat of Trevor Plouffe, to Noah's glove (with an assist going to the first base ball girl).

It's a bit of a long story why we happened to be sitting in these seats at that particular moment (it was legal, but short-lived). Everything is about timing, right?

Check out the grip! I believe that's his circle change. Watch for him in the 2023 draft.


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Congratulations Noah! The story, like a fine wine, should improve over the years. In a few years I expect that ball will be a screaming line drive, probably hit by a Hall of Famer like Jim Thome, which Noah one-handed without the benefit of a glove. The Magic of baseball!

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 08:18 AM by terry Highlight this comment 1

Well now 1-10 at TF this year. Highlights of the evening was the free parking right in front of the Salvation Army and of course some great holiday brats. Smuggled some rum to drink the pain away of watching this hapless team go through the motions again! What a buzz kill the whole evening. Did enjoy booing our crafty lefthander though. Nice sally throw to first. Walked in at the top of the 2nd and walked out the top of the 7th! Looks like a 69 win club to me. The winds of change soon to be blowing. I guess the Gardy pep talk before the game went for naught? LOL!

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 08:33 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 2

At what point does it cease to be bearable? Maybe when the Orioles are having their way with us? Even the lemmings are beginning to figure out that spin and ST renewal letters do not add up to a contending ballclub.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 09:26 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 3

Saw lots of scalpers having no luck dumping piles of tickets at about 7:20 last night before heading into the game! What a difference a year makes. Unless we find a way to get a top notch starter and a half ass shortstop the boys could be heading for some sub par 500 years ahead. Buyers market for sure. For once Twins will have to start promoting something like a cheap family 4 packs for $40 that includes a dog and pop! Cause the honeymoon soon to be ovaaaaaa.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 09:35 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 4

Wonder how car sales are going at Mauer Chevrolet? Maybe a name change ahead? LOL!

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 09:49 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 5

Buyers market or just a market correction? If the demand drops that far then the secondary market will drop off as well. After this season's performance I would imagine a lot of the ST holders who are just trying to make a buck will drop out because they can't afford to take the financial hit they are absorbing this year.

With no premium opponents left on the schedule this season it is a buyers market for sure for the rest of this season.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 09:53 AM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 6

I have been giving my tickets away, even then sometimes, people are declining.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 10:46 AM by tk Highlight this comment 7

Headed to the ballpark Friday night. Still enjoying the thought of seeing another game, although with a fraction of the excitement I felt last spring when I obtained the tickets. These are some good seats, but imagine opportunities will be available for moving around a bit and seeing a couple of innings from closer yet. Who knows, Delmon may hit that homer and make that fantastic catch that I've been pleading to see from him all season... You'd think against the 1st place division opponent, Gardy would put the A team out there. (maybe even the AA team...)

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:25 AM by schweady Highlight this comment 8

I turned down free tickets last night, in what were supposed to be great seats, mostly because I know I would have spent at least $20 at the park on beer and whatnot, but that's much easier to do when the team is relevant.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:26 AM by Chad Highlight this comment 9

$24 seats in the Legends Club Section R for tonight's game.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:57 AM by grizzly adams Highlight this comment 10

Excuse me, at stubhub. Sort of an important detail.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:58 AM by grizzly adams Highlight this comment 11

I've accepted that I might just dump tickets on StubHub now and then and feel good that someone is getting to sit in great seats for very little money, and probably excited to share the story. That makes me feel better, and once I got over the money issue, it puts a positive spin on it.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 12:28 PM by jctwins Highlight this comment 12

Now that I had one pair of tickets go for free last minute one night on Facebook, when I offer them dirt cheap, people are asking if they are the free ones...

With the work I do, August is packed, so I was heavy with tickets in September from our group, this is going to be a long 6 weeks.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 1:02 PM by tk Highlight this comment 13

I was just told that Ben Revere stated on Twitter that he will be working as a wedding singer in the off-season. With the Twins' luck, he will strain his larynx and spend the first two months of the 2012 season on the DL with bilateral throat weakness.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 1:05 PM by terry Highlight this comment 14

The Twins are going to want to look into doing some serious retooling - to include the front office, on field management, minor league talent and management, and training/medical staff - if they want to avoid a complete fiasco both baseball and business-wise. I really think things have now gotten to the point where they can no longer talk their way out of this gathering storm (sorry WC) and/or hope the casual fans/TF groupies keep spending their dollars foolishly. I think they are going to get an opportunity to sort the wheat from the chaff in regard to ST sales - the true fan will be more likely to retain while the speculators are going to jump ship unless they detect a VERY bright light at the end of a very short tunnel. Maybe the Twins will decide to focus a bit more on baseball and a bit less on bottom line, and elevate the "true" fan back to a position of regard rather than afterthought? A little less corporate arrogance and a little more clear thinking combined with straight talk? "Minnesota Nice" only goes so far - at some point even we expect reasonable value and the Twins would do well to get that through their heads. The honeymoon is over, time to play ball.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 2:00 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 15

A lifeless performance like last night's makes us all disgruntled (to say the least), but I know that come January I will be chomping at the bit to get back to the ballpark. I just hope the front office makes better personnel decisions than what they've been making the last couple years. Hardy for Hoey? OUCH!

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 2:13 PM by terry Highlight this comment 16

That's the basic problem for a great many fans like me. The team is unlikely to make significant improvements for any number of reasons (ineptitude for one) - including that there are enough people "chomping at the bit to get back to the ballpark" to make such activity unnecessary. We need to demand a better product instead of just paying for one. If the Minnesota Twins were a political candidate would they get your vote?

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 2:29 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 17

Ben - at this point, if the Twins were a candidate for public office...I don't think they'd have my vote. Hard to say that, but it's true.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 2:35 PM by luke Highlight this comment 18

I will be interested in seeing how they rebuild. I lived through the final decade of the Griffith era when the Twins were for all intents and purposes a farm team for the rest of the American league. Their best players were leaving in droves via either free agency or "fire sale" trades, e.g. Carew, Bostock, Hisle, Blyleven, Goltz, Campbell. It was a one-way street; there were no free agents or "fire sale" trades coming TO the Twins. We know the Twins will lose some big names in the off-season; the thing to watch is what they get in return and what they do with the salary savings. Their minor league system is pretty abysmal right now, as this years Injury-a-thon has proven.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 2:51 PM by terry Highlight this comment 19

It's hard to answer the "political candidate" scenario without knowing who would be running against them. If it's a battle between various sports (i.e. Twins vs. Vikings), I'll stick with baseball, thanks. If it's a battle between MLB franchises (i.e. Twins vs. Yankees), it's an absurd choice. If it's a choice between local baseball teams (i.e. Twins vs. Saints), that's equally absurd.

It highlights the root of the problem: If you want to watch major league baseball in the Twin Cities, the Twins are the only game in town. Monopoly.

To the question of the quality of the team and the overall value being offered, it may help to ask it this way: How many games would you be going to if this same exact team were playing in the Metrodome?

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 2:55 PM by Rick 20

Thome and Kubel have been claimed on waivers, details on who has put in a claim is unknown at this time.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 2:58 PM by tk Highlight this comment 21

Maybe I am thinking too hard or don't understand the specific analogy, but wouldn't a very bright light be needed for a very long tunnel? Short tunnels seem to not be used in such context much and since they are short really wouldn't require much light to be seen from the opposite end. After all "seeing the light at the end of the tunnel" refers to seeing the end of the darkness to get to the lightness and the better side and wouldn't require much effort if the tunnel was short. But in the statement Ben made, seeing a "very bright light" would indicate a lot of effort to see the better side which as mentioned wouldn't be needed for a short tunnel.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 3:03 PM by Jared Highlight this comment 22

I agree that we're in very weird analogy territory here...

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 3:29 PM by Rick 23

OK - I'll make it easy for you: In my view the speculators/brokers/scalpers need to see major improvements in team viability relatively soon to keep from bailing. Bottom feeders are seldom in for the long haul.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 3:37 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 24

Good points, Rick.
As far as your Metrodome question, if the Twins were still playing in the Dome, and it was this squad, I fear early 2000s attendance numbers would be rearing their ugly heads. The Twins averaged a little over 12,000/game in 2000 at the Dome (click for Senators/Twins attendance dating back to 1901).
I know I wouldn't be paying to see this squad if it was still the Dome-era.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 3:46 PM by luke Highlight this comment 25

Also, in regards to a previous discussion about Kauffman Stadium, I read something in the latest Twins magazine that I didn't know about "The K".

In an interview with John Gordon, he was asked about his favorite ballpark. He said it was Kauffman. He said one of the things he likes is how truckers blow their whistles on I-70 as they pass by the stadium. That lets the folks in the booth know they're listening to the game. I never knew they did that. I just thought that was cool.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:36 PM by luke Highlight this comment 26

I would still go see this club if they were playing in the Dome. It amuses me to see such fair weather fan speak. I guess the whole outdoor baseball thing was just a bunch of hoopla after all.

As far as speculator/broker/scalper type STH's bailing, that's more of a win for the Twins than a lose. These middle men have little impact on overall ticket sales or attendance. This will especially be true if the Twins expand upon their demand pricing experiment.

The fair weather fan syndrome and Target Field honeymoon ending are what will have the biggest impact on ticket sales.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM by Dave Highlight this comment 27

I remember going to a weekday afternoon game at The Met when I was in college in 1968. It was a cold dreary day and there were only about 4,000 in attendance. But I remember two amazing things from that day. The starter for Oakland pitched a shutout to get his very first MLB win. He later achieved greater fame as a reliever - Rollie (he was called "Roland" back in 1968) Fingers. The other thing I remember is sitting near the Oakland dugout (you could walk up and buy seats like that in those days - especially at a game where attendance was only 4,000) when out stepped Joe DiMaggio! OK, how many remembered that Joe D was an Oakland coach for one season?

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 6:14 PM by terry Highlight this comment 28

Correction it was 1969 ... April 22, 1969 to be exact.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 6:22 PM by terry Highlight this comment 29

They'll still average 35,000 I bet next season. The Twins will do something to try to keep the ballpark full. That said, it is ok in my opinion to have some walkup available again for at least some games. It is fun to spontaneously decide to go to the ballpark and not have to fight the scalpers.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 6:34 PM by Lincster Highlight this comment 30

The top 10 rows in Sec. 116 are empty. Filling in as I speak with randoms.

Haven't been to a game since Aug. 5 with work demands. When did they go to selling regular and large size beers. Large beer is 24 ounces at $8.25 and if I recall the regular beer is 16 ounce at $7.25. $.34/oz for the 24oz and $.45oz for the 16oz. Definitely a good deal to get 50% more for only an extra $1!

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 7:25 PM by tk Highlight this comment 31

Lincster: What you mention is the EXACT scenario when you should utilize the scalpers outside Target Field!!! Tonight, tomorrow, this weekend, all of September when there are tickets available from the team at the box office means the tickets in the scalpers hands are even less $$. I've never understood why people would rather pay the team more $$ and undoubtedly sit in a worse seat when you can easily go to Craigslist/Stubhub(albeit ridiculous fees)/Scalpers downtown for better seats at less money.

It is economics 101. Supply and Demand. Precisely why the Twins "dynamic" pricing is a complete joke. They refuse to undercut the prices paid by season ticket holders so are therefore highly uncompetitive with the secondary market (You can't strong arm capitalism of Stubhub/Scalpers). I had to laugh last weekend on a whim I looked to see what kinda seats the Twins had for the Yankees series. Indeed they were several options including Home Plate Box seats for a smooth $107 each. I mean c'mon is anyone buying at that price. A quick crosscheck on Ebay/Craigslist proved this was quite unreasonable. Are consumers really that unsavvy? Are people afraid to deal with the sleazy scalpers? Apprehensive of getting stuck with fake tickets?

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 7:43 PM by Max Highlight this comment 32

I hope the Twins can keep the yard full next year, Linc. How the Twins do it, if this same squad returns next year, is anyone's guess. Hopefully, they won't have to resort to giving away 20,000 tickets like the Rays did a couple years ago.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 7:58 PM by luke Highlight this comment 33

I think you might have answered your own question, Max.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 8:25 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 34

And TK, the beer might be cheaper per oz. with the 24 oz. beer, but could be piss warm by the time you finished it. If you're a fast drinker, probably a good deal.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 8:27 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 35

Winona: I intended them to be rhetorical.

1. Are buyers unsavvy?

Sure I would be inclined to think so especially those that don't regularly attend sporting events/concerts/plays etc.

2. Are people afraid to deal with sleazy scalpers?

I've bought from some guys lacking in great hygiene/fashion sense/respect but I've also had good experiences. They can be real dumb sh!ts (always fishing for the sucker), but you simply keep walking and you'll find a nice deal.

3. Are people apprehensive of fake tickets?

Tell me this why on God's green earth would someone waste their time faking/duplicating tickets for a piss poor game against the Orioles, Royals, Indians, BlueJays, Pirates, etc. I've bought tickets on the street all over this country for various events and never ONCE had fake tickets. A little common sense goes a long ways. How often do you hear reports of fake tickets? Maybe at the Super Bowl or Opening Day at Target Field (a few scattered reports). Very rare and rightfully so. The guys who are out there every day/night are inclined to police it themselves. Meaning they know who belongs and who doesn't. Their reputations and future earnings depend upon it. Ultimately you are taking a very small "gamble" buying on the secondary market (online, in person, etc) in exchange for better seats at a lesser cost.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 9:21 PM by Max Highlight this comment 36

Let's be glad the Twins aren't the Marlins.
And, no that's not a shot at The Mother Ship that's under construction.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 10:06 PM by luke Highlight this comment 37

That's no circle change Rick, that looks like a 2 seamer. He'll be puttin' a little sink on his belt high fastballs and throwing 200 innings for this team before you know it.

Posted on August 24, 2011 at 11:51 PM by jp Highlight this comment 38

where has Slowey been all season? This team would have known their fate earlier on if he was up a couple months back!

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 12:53 AM by tk Highlight this comment 39

How about 50 million dollars going 0 for 14 last night? Wake up people! The Twins do marketing well and the TF experience is coming along just fine - but how about those of us who just want to watch a little baseball.

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 07:44 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 40

Baltimore has a righty-handed pitcher going and Mauer hasn't caught since last Saturday and yet he's out of the lineup due to "general soreness"? What in *&#! is going on? There hasn't been this much secrecy and misinformation since the Nixon administration!

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 08:10 AM by terry Highlight this comment 41

How bout we call the Yanks and offer the baby jesus and 30 million to them to take this guy off the books? Would they bite? I hope Joe likes playing with the misfits next year as Pohlads will try and purge 30-40 mil off this payroll next year. Can't blame em. They sure as hell are not getting any return on investment with these stiffs. I mean 20mil for 2 closers? LOL!

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 09:16 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 42

Hey Rick. I'm pretty sure that's a two-seam fastball the Kid's about to throw in that pic (perhaps with a little extra cut action, depending on how he releases it).

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 09:25 AM by br Highlight this comment 43

The woman next to him does not look to happy.

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 09:29 AM by tk Highlight this comment 44

Oops - didn't see JP's post. Sorry for the duplication.

RE: scalpers, I bought a single ticket a few weeks ago (wanted to get something close to the two we already had). I got to the game a little late - end of the first inning - so I knew prices would be moving downward. First guy I approached asked what I was looking for. Nothing too pricey, upper deck infield, single. He had one. How much? $75. I just laughed. Literally laughed, out loud, said no thanks, way too much, and started to move on. How much do you want to pay, he asked? More like $15, I said. Ok. Sold.

It was a hard ticket, not a printout. YMMV, but this was a pretty typical exchange for a not-too-high-demand event. It's not a difficult process.

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 09:45 AM by br Highlight this comment 45

I'm no pitching expert, but isn't the two-seamer thrown with the index and middle finger gripping the ball?

I seem to remember Bert demonstrating that the circle change has the middle and ring finger gripping the ball with the index finger curved into a circle.

It looks like I may need to know these things...

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 10:06 AM by Rick 46

The Twins tickets sale will do fine next year. This "honeymoon" phase is not over by a long shot. After 28 years in the dome, days like today and yesterday will ensure fans continue to come back. There may very well be a decline in scalpers next year, but they will never go away. There were always scalpers outside of the dome not matter the team's record, and that was when it was "illegal".

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 10:44 AM by Duffman Highlight this comment 47

I didn't notice he was gripping with his middle fingers, so you're absolutely right that isn't a two seamer. That being said I couldn't call that a circle change either, not enough pressure being applied by the other fingers to create the friction necessary to slow the ball down. I'd say the closest comparison would be the vulcan grip splitter formerly employed by TB and FLA reliever Joe Nelson. Click link for picture, still don't know how to embed pictures into posts.

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 11:08 AM by jp Highlight this comment 48

A "vulcan change"? Being a hard core geek, I love it!

"Live long and suck on this."

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 11:16 AM by Rick 49

My advise is to go to the game after at least the 1st inning or even 2nd inning. See if the scalpers will sell a ticket for $1.00. What are they gonna do with a stack of 50 tickets anyways after the game has long since started? It's a free ticket or buyers market for sure. The way the lads have laid down the last week they should be paying us to go to the games. Is Wally still pitching beer down at Sneaky Petes? Have not been in there for awhile.

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 11:54 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 50

Today it's a sore neck with Mauer. This guy was going to be a football player?

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:05 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 51

Did Mauer get caught in the crossfire of a Pavano dugout meltdown?

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:17 PM by tk Highlight this comment 52

Check out the story by Jon Crawczynski of the AP in the online edition of the Strib. Was Gardy taking a dig at Mauer? He sure wasn't comparing him to Ripken or Gehrig.

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:38 PM by terry Highlight this comment 53

Ah, I didn't realize those were his 2d and 3rd fingers, either. The pinky is far enough out to be a change. Fingers evenly spread so probably not a vulcan change (unfortunately!). Can't actually see the index finger to see if it's a circle change. Could be just a palm ball, but it's not deep in his hand.

Maybe it's Dice-K's "gyroball"...?!

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 1:43 PM by br Highlight this comment 54

You know this Twins squad is really bad when Bremer leads into the post-game show with the following statistic:
"For the first time ever, the Orioles come to Minnesota and sweep a four-game series."

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 2:52 PM by luke Highlight this comment 55

And Dick Bremer opened last night's telecast comparing Ben Revere to Kirby Puckett of all just can't make this stuff up

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 3:06 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 56

Congratulations, Noah! That picture made me break out in a huge grin. :-)

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 3:10 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 57

Wow 20 games under outscored 27-4 last 5 games -142 run differntial. We aren't just getting beat we are getting our asses kicked by the O's???? I hope my season ticket rebate is in the mail. These buffoons are not even entertaing or putting up any effort! 100 losses here we come! 3 out of the last 5 starters have not made it out of the 3rd inning! What a joke! You can't even give tickets away these days.

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 3:29 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 58

The Manager finally calls out the baby jesus! Great day to go buy a Mauer Chevrolet! Or is it called Inver Grove Chevy now? LOL!

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 3:39 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 59

The Twins have definetaly laid down and just plain stopped caring. Mauer was being a pussy again sorry for the language why would he play when he has all the dough and he gets an F for not growing a pair and maning up. I think that heads are going to roll in this organization after the sweep whether its Gardy or Bill Smith i would prefer both.

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 4:32 PM by NewGuy Highlight this comment 60

This is absolutely unbelievable...I cannot believe I actually had hope for this team through the White Sox series earlier this month.

I would not be renewing my tickets next year if I did not have partners who were not staying on. I am almost thinking of releasing my 20 games and just manage the tickets, as I have not got any value out of them. It would be fine if I actually was able to watch the Twins play spoiler, but the only thing spoiling will be the $1 dogs on Labor Day.

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 4:39 PM by tk Highlight this comment 61

If they don't already know, they better find out what's wrong with Mauer. Sid speculated Lyme's Disease, but both the team and Mauer have denied that. But an all-star athlete in every sport he's tried doesn't just turn into a part-timer suffering from "soreness" and "weakness" at age 28 unless there's something going on. If he's going to be the face of the franchise around whom you're going to rebuild, you better be getting more than 70 games and a Nick Punto-like slugging percentage out of him.

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 5:12 PM by terry Highlight this comment 62


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Posted on August 25, 2011 at 6:18 PM by shackleford Highlight this comment 64

I am going to disregard that last comment Shackleford.

Anyway, who's excited for their Thome Wind-up Walker!

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 6:58 PM by tk Highlight this comment 65

For all of you doom and gloomers, the Twins are apparently confident enough to restrict certain accounts to 8 tickets next year. They're actively going after wannabe brokers, still. I'm not quite sure that the Twins realize what is going to happen to their ST base in the off-season. I'm calling for under 10K actual attendance for the Seattle series. Also, the Twins apparently want money for 2012 before the final pitch is thrown in 2011.

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 8:12 PM by twinswschamps2080 (aka twinswschamps2011) Highlight this comment 66

Looks like Jim Thome to Cleveland is a done deal, according to Buster Olney.

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 8:28 PM by Jeff T. Highlight this comment 67

Forgot to mention the Sweet Spot. They are pushing the heck out of this premiere program. I have received a stadium blanket, inaugural season pin, and I consider this a gift from last season, as I am certain first-year ticket holders this year did not receive the inaugural pin.

I have a 20 page full color brochure on the program, next time, they should just save the $5 that it took to print, stuff, and mail to just give me $5 concession credit.

I would not be all upset about not getting anything from this if they did not promote this as the greatest thing to happen and that I would be impressed with the opportunities AND had us fill out 2 surveys about the program.

In the renewal letter they wrote, "P.S. Watch for information about exciting new 2012 Sweet Spot benefits exclusively for Twins Season Ticket Holders in your renewal packet and online."

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 8:58 PM by TK Highlight this comment 68

Why can't our bats be as electric as they were for the Damn Yankees today? Three grand slams in one game? And, an additional ten runs to boot?

So, now that Thome got his 600th HR here, he's basically just gonna take his bat and glove and go back to his 'hood in Cleveland, huh?

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 9:05 PM by luke Highlight this comment 69

Why not? The Twins got to promote the heck out of #600. He served his purpose. The guy can no longer play in the field, he can't run, and hitting a dinger every 13th-14th(if that) at bat doesn't really justify using up a roster spot at this late date and in this hopeless situation. Cleveland needs to turn it around in a hurry to salvage any chances of staying close to the Tigers. Thome can help them more than he can the deead-in-the-water Twins.

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 10:08 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 70

Twins bats arent as electric as the Yankees because that's not the Twin's way.

I am not quite sure if it's a team of a bunch of pansies with low self esteem or if the Twins just need to put everyone in a bubble and not play out the rest of the season to avoid any potential long term injuries.

I think this season is an anamoly for sure, but dang this is annoying. The dugout is starting to look like a hospital ward.

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 10:10 PM by Jared Highlight this comment 71

Man...I can't wait to not renew my season tickets for next year... I'm totally pumped!!! It's been a blast watching this team get run into the ground. Can't wait for Trevor Plouffe, Rene Tosoni and Drew Butera to be starters... Sorry just venting...FUCK YOU BILL SMITH

Posted on August 25, 2011 at 11:23 PM by FormerSeasonTicket Highlight this comment 72

But thank goodness Ron Dav...I mean Matt Capps is still on the active roster!!

Posted on August 26, 2011 at 12:44 AM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 73

Deflection: yes, but has ESPN/Fox broadcast any of the handful of their network Twins games in 3d and if so has anyone seen it? Would be interesting to see, if only once.

Posted on August 26, 2011 at 09:07 AM by Jared Highlight this comment 74

How many times has Reevre chopped weakly to the pitcher this year? 40 times? He had to learn to bunt or something or change that swing. The guy can run and play some D but no arm an no bat??? I would tell Cuddy 3 years 20 mil and hope he tests the water. Too much money to give an old outfielder no matter how much the fans and the skipper likes him. Need starting pitching and a shortstop! Should be easy to purge $40 mil from the current roster. Maybe make Nishy a buyout offer to see if he will take 2 mil and go back to Japan!

Posted on August 26, 2011 at 09:12 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 75

I think 2 years/$20 with a team option for a 3rd year at $10 mil or a $1 mil buy-out gets it done with Cuddyer. That's maintaining his current pay level w/o extending too far. I'd really want to avoid a guaranteed 3rd year.

Is $10.5M/yr too much? Not for a valued clubhouse guy on a "big market" team. The Twins love Cuddyer's competitiveness and leadership qualities, love his willignness to play anywhere (even if he's pretty mediocre everywhere defensively). He's also a decent RH bat on a lefty-heavy team.

But the Twins have to decide who they are and what direction they're going this offseason. If they want to crawl back into their "small market" shell, then they'll cut ties with Cuddy and go with Kubel/Plouffe/minor league X in RF.

Posted on August 26, 2011 at 09:56 AM by br Highlight this comment 76

Gonna be real interesting to see which direction the club goes. Patch and play or total blowup. Right now they can't pitch or hit or catch! All is well stay the course or total makeover. I favor the makeover!

Posted on August 26, 2011 at 10:28 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 77

Got to love the September call-ups that join us in August because of injuries. DL Liriano (9-9; 4.84) is being replaced by Scott Diamond, who is (4-14; 5.56) with the Red Wings. This ought to be fun!

Posted on August 26, 2011 at 10:54 AM by tk Highlight this comment 78

Tigers will be licking their chops facing our Diamonds are Forever starter! The only number we need to worry about now is if the boyz will make it to 100 losses. Might be close!

Posted on August 26, 2011 at 11:26 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 79

Could this be a first to worst to first pattern? A boy can always hope!

Posted on August 26, 2011 at 11:51 AM by tk Highlight this comment 80

There have been other season's in which expectations were high and performance was low. The Twins had 90+ win seasons in '62 & '63 and then had a horrible season in '64 (despite the arrival of Tony Oliva), finishing 7th. They finished one game out, losing on the last day of the '67 season and then proceeded to finish 7th in '68 (a season-ending injury to Harmon in the All-Star game contributing to that finish). They won the AL West in '69 & '70 and then finished twelve games under .500 in '71. But the gap between expectation and reality has never been as great as it is this year. Re-signing Thome and Pavano; getting a speedy, switch-hitting middle infielder who won the previous year's batting crown and Gold Glove in Japan? Three time batting champ and Gold Glove catcher signed to a long term contract so that issue would not be a distraction. Despite questions about the bullpen, we had to be optimistic about the team's chances in 2011, right? That is what makes this [use your own word] of a season so aggravating.

Posted on August 26, 2011 at 11:54 AM by terry Highlight this comment 81

I'm still waiting for the long story of why you were sitting in those seats rather than the bleachers in seciton 140 ....

Posted on August 26, 2011 at 12:12 PM by Dave Highlight this comment 82

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"You talk about the magic, the aura, but what really makes a stadium is the fans. Concrete doesn't talk back to you. Chairs don't talk back to you. It's the people who are there, day in, day out, that makes the place magic."

– Bernie Williams

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This is as close as I could get to a pedestrian-eye view of Seventh Street (looking west away from downtown). It's inviting, not imposing, and remarkably dignified.

Security cones?

A glimpse of the rather plain west facade (the side which faces the HERC plant).

Here's the field of posts which will support the third base side of the grandstand. Some walls have started to appear about where the Northstar riders will enter the park.

Here is Seventh Street viewed from the west looking toward downtown. This will probably be the most pedestrian-friendly side (other than the plaza), but only if there is some psychological barrier between the people on foot and the people in their dangerously fast-moving automobiles.

Mauer steps in for the first time.

I'm too short to see over that wall. How about a little platform or something?

The Polo Grounds (left) and Shibe Park (Connie Mack Stadium)

No, that's not Kent Hrbek. It's catcher Glenn Borgmann.

This looks south and shows how the Northstar tracks are sheltered by the promenade above. This is the side which faces the HERC plant.

June 29,1936 - May 17, 2011

The Metrodome is converted to its football configuration after the Twins game on August 29, 2002

Uh oh. A code of conduct. Clearly posted. I'm not gonna mention any names, but you know who you are... (Click to enlarge.)

These images are found at the top of the staircase, which leads to the Suite Level.

This is the trapezoid (for lack of a better name) in right center. Be sure to notice section of seats just below the pavilion and above the fence (which I hadn't noticed before). For those who are interested, what looks like an old-style scoreboard is in fact a high-def video board which will look, at times, like an old-fashioned scoreboard.

Free views!

Steps going up at Gate 29/Carew

Notice that the wooden-backed club seats are now covered by a green tarp for protection from the elements.

Main concourse, looking south toward the area behind home plate.

Team pennant. (Click to enlarge.)

Two signs visible from beyond the confines of the ballpark.

Nine spots for hops bats.

Of the players up there, only Bert does not have a gate with his number (28) on it at Target Field. You know, there is that door underneath the skywalk on Seventh Street between gates 14 and 29...

Not much facade left to be finished at this point.

Also from the B ramp entrance off of Third, a look up at the tiny crack between ballpark and parking ramp

I took this because of the view reflected in the store windows. (The store is cool too.)


BPM - Ballpark Magic

BRT - Bus Rapid Transit

DSP - Dave St. Peter

FSE - Full Season Equivalent

FYS - Fake Yankee Stadium (see also: NYS)

HERC - Hennepin Energy Resource Company (aka the Garbage Burner)

HPB - Home Plate Box

HRP - Home Run Porch

LC - Legends Club

LRT - Light Rail Transit

MBA - Minnesota Ballpark Authority (will own Target Field)

MOA - Mall of America

MSFC - Minnesota Sports Facilities Commission (owns the Metrodome)

NYS - New Yankee Stadium

SRO - Standing Room Only

STH - Season Ticket Holder

TCFBS - TCF Bank Stadium

TF - Target Field

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First Edition (1992)

Second Edition (2006)


Selected Bibliography - Surveys


Second Edition (1987)

Not a "Third Edition" exactly,
but it replaced the above title

(2000, large coffee table)

Original edition (2000, round)

Revised edition (2006, round)

(2001, medium coffee table)

(2002, small coffee table)

(2003, medium coffee table)

(2004, very large coffee table)

(2006, very large coffee table)

Combines the previous two titles
(2007, medium coffee table)

Selected Bibliography - Nostalgia


Book and six ballpark miniatures

Complete Bibliography

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