May 17, 2007 1:50 AM
So many pictures, so little time. Here's one that says it all.
Yesterday's introduction of the ballpark site for the media contained very little in the way of new information, but it was a nice opportunity to see Jerry Bell smile about as wide as I've ever seen. If you saw any of the TV coverage, you heard him say that he was a little disbelieving that there wasn't a critical vote scheduled for this meeting -- that the project was actually getting underway!
It was a pretty small crowd -- much smaller than I expected. And the resulting coverage was understandably muted given the almost total lack of anything interesting to report. By the way, someone really needs to tell KSTP-TV that there won't be a roof.
So we learned that there will be dust for a while. There will be occasional street and bridge closings. There will be trucks going in and out. This is all pretty standard stuff when it comes to building a new building of any type.
We did learn that the playing surface will be about two to three feet below the existing parking surface, and that about 130,000 cubic yards of dirt and asphalt will be hauled away to a landfill in Burnsville. It's hoped that some of the asphalt will be ground up and recycled.
They expect to find railroad debris beneath the asphalt, but are not expecting to find anything which will slow down the project. When he talked about timetables, he made it sound like everything is scheduled pretty tightly, but there is time to make their scheduled opening date if nothing goes too terribly wrong. Clearing and preparing the site will cost about $3 to 4 million.
I also heard Dan Mehls, the construction manager for Mortenson Construction, say that it would not have been possible to build much other than a ballpark on the site because of the soil condition below. He said that you couldn't put a high rise building there because such buildings have all their weight concentrated in one area, versus a ballpark which has its weight distributed evenly over a much larger area.
Dan Mehls, Mortenson Construction
This should be interesting information for those who are doing the determination of the condemnation price. Looks like putting condos there might not have actually been a possibility -- and may not be on other nearby land (assuming the information is accurate). Frankly, I'm hoping a bunch of tall buildings get built in the corridor, with retail at street level to create a sense of neighborhood. As it stands now, the ballpark will be built between two freeway-style bridges to the north and south, a real busy freeway to the east, and a great big public works complex to the west.
And, speaking of the HERC plant (garbage burner), it sure does make a lot of noise. Though I did not smell anything unusual, there were times when I wondered if a noisy plane was going overhead. There was at least one TV helicopter, but it wasn't that kind of sound. It was more like the roar of a hundred giant exhaust fans. I'm assuming this will get addressed somewhere along the way, because it could be terribly disruptive to enjoying a game (although maybe not as disruptive as an overly-loud PA system).
There was some minor concern expressed about high levels of mercury, and seven spots had been marked for special attention. I'm not sure how this gets determined. Without cars parked there it was possible to see that the asphalt is pretty much a patchwork job. Maybe this is due to soil testing. Hard to tell.
I asked Mehls about Bassett Creek. He said that its top is about 15 feet below the current surface (thus about 13 feet below the playing surface), and that it's about 10 feet deep. They have to do some special work to protect it, and do not intend to disturb it or change its flow in any way. While that's a little disappointing, it seems like doing anything more creative would have been just about impossible given that depth.
All of the important locations were clearly marked, and seeing the right field foul pole was something of a shock.
Believe it or not, the actual outfield wall will be about where this fence is now!
Though I was wrong the other day when I wrote about the fence markings on the pavement, the sample foul pole was attached to an existing chain link fence (covered with lovely greenery) separating Third Avenue North from the entrance ramp to I-394. That means that the outfield fence will actually be beyond the markings I saw the other day (which turned out to indicate the location of construction fencing). It's not out of the question that a Justin Morneau home run could hit the parking ramp, or even land out on the freeway!
The right field foul pole seen against a backdrop of Butler Square (itself a site of great significance in the history of professional baseball in Minneapolis)
Mehls was a little hesitant when asked about the heating plan for the playing field. He said that the details were still being worked out, and sounded maybe just a little bit skeptical that this was possible. Of course, modern playing fields are usually installed by special subcontractors, so maybe HOK knows something he doesn't.
Getting the railroad tracks moved a few feet to the west means that there will be only one railroad tunnel underneath the stands, and it will be only a storage tunnel for the Northstar line -- not an active track. All of the active tracks will be outside the ballpark, and that resolves all the questions about liability in case there's an accident. Mehls said that some tracks will run underneath the promenade which will be built on the west side facing the garbage burner, the Star Tribune reported the other day that trains will have no reason to blow their whistles as they pass by the ballpark.
Even though it was a gray day, I took the opportunity to snap about a hundred pictures which will become my official "before" collection. Look for some more of these over the next few days.
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"You talk about the magic, the aura, but what really makes a stadium is the fans. Concrete doesn't talk back to you. Chairs don't talk back to you. It's the people who are there, day in, day out, that makes the place magic."
– Bernie Williams
Explore the Site
Here are 50 images chosen randomly from the 3045 found on this site. Click the image to be taken to the original post. A new list is created every 10 minutes.
A spot that's always full!
Flagpole historian Ben McEvers at far right (click for the full photo set, graciously loaned to this site by Pat Backen)
These openings will facilitate access to the catwalks which run throughout the canopy.
This is the last hope for so-called knot-hole views. I'm skeptical.
OK, just how many servings per container?
Stay warm while buying tickets.
For those who have never seen it up close, that's what it looks like when steam comes out of the HERC plant.
Just up the foul line, it looks like the base of the wall in foul territory on the right side.
Opening day, 2010
The view from our Loge Box
The Puckett Atrium
I took this picture from the Overlook at great personal risk, because everything Thome was hitting was landing out that direction.
The glare problem.
Just lighted panels... *sigh*
Here you can see the real beauty of the Seventh Street side, and get a solid sense of why the overall design really works. The building's purpose is clearly visible, there are numerous connections from inside to outside, scale is nicely mitigated, the stone is attractively used, materials are pleasantly mixed and truly complementary. It's just a winner in so many ways.
Perhaps these very bold, Hitchcockian birds picking at left-over popcorn and peanuts were portents of what was to come.
Left field bench seating
Open house skeptics
Here is Seventh Street viewed from the west looking toward downtown. This will probably be the most pedestrian-friendly side (other than the plaza), but only if there is some psychological barrier between the people on foot and the people in their dangerously fast-moving automobiles.
Section 139, Row 8
Discussions in progress on some very brown grass...
Sue Nelson, and her organ, in one of the Twins Pubs
Who Owns What (Click for larger version. Source: Ballpark Authority)
Comerica Park main entrance: Tigers, bats, and much (maybe too much) more (Source: LP)
Though there's nothing there now, you have to believe they'll find a way to add a party deck up there at some point.
A little higher angle shows how the two stations are close to one another but distinctly separate. The oval, glass-enclosed area is the entrance from the Northstar platform below into the ballpark. The LRT platform is comparable to the other stations along that route.
This is as close as I could get to a pedestrian-eye view of the main entrance. This is what you'll see as you enter by coming down Sixth Street.
Click to see the full-size image.
Concept drawing for the fan/player appreciation wall. (Click to enlarge.)
Believe it or not, the actual outfield wall will be about where this fence is now!
BPM - Ballpark Magic
BRT - Bus Rapid Transit
DSP - Dave St. Peter
FSE - Full Season Equivalent
FYS - Fake Yankee Stadium (see also: NYS)
HERC - Hennepin Energy Resource Company (aka the Garbage Burner)
HPB - Home Plate Box
HRP - Home Run Porch
LC - Legends Club
LRT - Light Rail Transit
MBA - Minnesota Ballpark Authority (will own Target Field)
MOA - Mall of America
MSFC - Minnesota Sports Facilities Commission (owns the Metrodome)
NYS - New Yankee Stadium
SRO - Standing Room Only
STH - Season Ticket Holder
TCFBS - TCF Bank Stadium
TF - Target Field
Selected Bibliography - Analysis
First Edition (1992)
Second Edition (2006)
Selected Bibliography - Surveys
Second Edition (1987)
Not a "Third Edition" exactly,
but it replaced the above title
(2000, large coffee table)
Original edition (2000, round)
Revised edition (2006, round)
(2001, medium coffee table)
(2002, small coffee table)
(2003, medium coffee table)
(2004, very large coffee table)
(2006, very large coffee table)
Combines the previous two titles
(2007, medium coffee table)
Selected Bibliography - Nostalgia
Book and six ballpark miniatures