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Model Details - Part 1

January 18, 2008 11:25 PM

As you may imagine, I have taken a lot of ballpark-related photos. Some of them have appeared in these pages, but many have not. There's no real reason for this except that editing them takes time, and most aren't really necessary to illustrate whatever point I'm trying to make.

But my intention all along has been to get back to all of these unused images and bring them out when things are quiet.

Well, things are quiet.

Don't get me wrong...this is not a bad thing. I love it that we don't have any major impediments in the way anymore. And I especially love it that there are no more greedy weasels trying to muck things up with outrageous monetary demands (can you believe that that actually happened?).

So this is the first in a series of photo sets which will be offered without too much commentary (you can add that below).

These are pictures I took back on October 30 when the final model was revealed to the Hennepin County commissioners. You'll be able to see the model for yourself at Twinsfest. In fact, that's the only reason I'm going -- to find out what, if anything, has changed.

Let's start with the plaza area. Click on any image for a very large version.

Plaza view

This is as close as I could get to a pedestrian-eye view of the main entrance. This is what you'll see as you enter by coming down Sixth Street.


Plaza view

More of a bird's-eye view of the same area.


Plaza view

Looking across the top of the B parking ramp. Notice that signage will block any attempts at seeing the game from up there. Also take note of the glassed in area which is part club and part office space for the Ballpark Authority.


Right field foul pole area

Now from the inside looking at the same area.


Right field pavilion

And another angle looking at the overhang area of the right field pavilion. This looks to me like a great area to watch a game.


Pro Shop view

A view straight on of the Pro Shop area and ticket windows (just barely visible). The piers you see beneath the plaza are already almost completed (see final photo).

Finally, here's a current construction photo to give a little context:

Piers 7 cranes

From last week, you can see the piers taking shape. I believe that the front row, visible here as just forms and reinforcing rods, is the front edge of the plaza.

I learned a little something from these photos. Earlier I had complained about the possibility of freeway noise being a factor on the plaza. But what I didn't realize is that all but one lane of the freeway will be covered by the plaza, thus eliminating the possibility that noise will be too overwhelming (or maybe even noticeable).

Theoretically, all traffic on the remaining lane will also be traveling very slowly (35 mph) as they approach the exit. This also minimizes the noise. I now believe that it's a total non-issue.

Tomorrow we'll take a look at how the trains fit into the model picture.

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Awesome Rick - cool to see those so up close...

One thing I'm not sure if we discussed on here yet was the out-of-town scoreboards...(visible in some of those model shots). Do we know much about this yet?? Has DSP said anything about them? I wonder if they will be the ones like Cleveland has that shows small field drawings and updates whether men are on base or not. I'm assuming they will be electronic, but the model shows more of a classic look (although we know that is a very rough representation).

Posted on January 19, 2008 at 12:25 AM by Excited Highlight this comment 1

Am I mistaken or is the Canadian flag taller than the US flag? Just like the Canadian dollar surpassing our very own.

Posted on January 19, 2008 at 10:30 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 2

I like that they're using the stone as sort of a brand for the park. It's present everywhere and it has a nice tone and texture. I'm still curious how the approach to the sixth street pedestrian bridge will look and function as well as its orientation to the street. Just walking in this area now its still unclear how they're going to make this all work. This also applies to the bridge/rail station area. Great pics as always. Thanks for your efforts.

Posted on January 19, 2008 at 1:06 PM by Tim Highlight this comment 3

i can't freakin wait to (try to) catch a justin morneau homerun in the plaza. the more i see these plans, the more i realize that something significantly special is happening.

Posted on January 19, 2008 at 1:35 PM by yeahklye Highlight this comment 4

Does anyone have any clarifications yet as far as outfield seating and whether or not they will be the "bleacher seating" or traditional seats? From the perspective of one of the simulation videos, it appears there will be some bleacher seating in the right field area but am not 100% sure on that.

Posted on January 19, 2008 at 4:28 PM by Luke Highlight this comment 5

Haven't had a chance to read the latest post in great detail yet, but good to see you back in action Rick.

You were MIA there for a while!

Posted on January 19, 2008 at 7:51 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 6

Look closely at first photo in this set of photos. Is there a cow among the trees? Looks like Babe the blue ox!

Posted on January 21, 2008 at 10:45 AM by Dain Highlight this comment 7

Hey Rick, do you know if they plan on having the TV things on the facing of the upperdeck like they recently put in the metrodome?

Posted on June 8, 2008 at 11:50 PM by Brandon Highlight this comment 8

huh?

Posted on May 2, 2011 at 9:27 PM by bulldog Highlight this comment 9


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