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BallparkMagic presents a little bit of Target Field each day. (Click to enlarge.) Model Details - Part 5January 22, 2008 7:29 PM This is the final installment of a series taking a closer look at the ballpark model. I took these photos on October 30 at the Hennepin County Government Center when the model was unveiled to the Hennepin County commissioners. I should have noted this at the beginning of this series, but the model has most certainly changed since I took these pictures. In fact, the animation which was released on the same day showed a different configuration of the outfield stands -- one which was said to be more current. Whether that configuration has changed again since then I do not know. But what you will see at Twinsfest this weekend will probably be different in noticeable ways from these photos. Here are a couple of views of the administration building which is built into the left field corner.
Finally, here are some general shots which are just overviews of the whole model. And now for a quick blast from the past. This was the concept model shown at Twinsfest 2004. Oh my, how far they've come! Tomorrow we'll take a look at more details from that original concept. You may be surprised at just how much the current design improves on that very interesting original. CommentsTo utilized enhanced comment features, please enable cookies in your browser. Remember the Original original renderings of the stadium on the river where the Guthrie is now? Yeah, looking back at those renderings from January 1997, that would have been an amazing stadium site along the Mississippi riverfront. They could have also had a retractable roof and all for $300 million or so. (Don't remember the exact figures, but they could have had a lot more for less money had they gotten their act together earlier) But in the end, you can't go wrong with the current design which will be much more intimate and have it's own appeal rather than the "retro" appeal that the 1997 proposal would have had. It would have been essentially another Coors Field/Camden Yards ballpark only with the addition of a retractable roof. Just seeing that last picture of the old model with the roof makes me thankful for what is reality. We'll have a REAL ballpark, not an airplane hangar like Miller Park, Chase Field or Minute Maid Park. I have an umbrella, that's all the roof I will need. I have a parka and thermal underwear, that's all the protection I'll need in April. I think all the pro-roof people are of the generation born post-metropolitan stadium. It wasn't that bad folks.....Tell them Rick, you're almost as old as I am!!! FYI everybody: The Strib is hosting a very small ballpark photo gallery (not quite as extensive as what you can find here, however). The most interesting part is that you can see how they've tweaked the outfield a bit since I took my photos. (Click my name.) Posted on January 23, 2008 at 12:15 AM by Rick 4 Jim Souhan has a good write up as well about the new ballpark and the model (click on link). The thing I thought was most interesting was the fact that the top row in the left field grand stand will be approximately the same distance as the bottom row of the upper deck in the Metrodome. That is a BIG difference and will go to show how intimate this new ballpark will truly be.
Posted on January 23, 2008 at 12:41 AM by Luke
Rick, I looked at the pics on the StarTrib website and I can't see where the tweaks were made. Are they real minor? IowaWigman, Look at the area above the batter's eye. My pix show a restauarant, the Strib pix show seating. Posted on January 23, 2008 at 08:59 AM by Rick 7 This ballpark is going to be incredible. Top-5 in baseball in my opinion. I love those seats out in the left field corner surrounding the admin. building and the greenery on top of the HR fence. And I agree, it is a great thing to not have a monstrosity of a retractable roof looming over the park. Miller Park is a nice comfortable park, and I've also been to Houston's park, but they feel like domes. Like kevin in mn says, our park is going to be a real BALLPARK. A throwback to the old days where they built a park into the surrounding neighborhood as best as they could. How sweet is the fall of '09 going to be? The Gophers back on campus in an outdoor stadium that harkens back to Memorial Stadium, and the anticipation of Opening Day 2010 for the Twins and their amazing park. Thanks for pointing that out. In reading Souhan's column, I was a little surprised to hear that the capacity would come in at just under 40,000. I was thinking with the added outfield seating in left field that it would be over 40,000. I like how this is actual outfield seating in the new ballpark where nearly every homerun will be caught by a fan unlike the current dome. i can't wait to see the reactions of right fielders that are robbed of an out (and the hitter being gifted) of the right field stand overhang.
Posted on January 23, 2008 at 10:52 AM by annoying customer
In regards to the administration building, are the plans still there for some sort of sports bar? If so, I hope it remains open on non-game days and before games, say 11 to 3. This ballpark is simply going to be amazing! Most importantly this ballpark is going to be different than all other ballparks and have its own unique identity with the limestone, administration building incorporated into the ballpark, the parking ramps beyond the outfield fence, the plaza area, the unique left field grandstand, the light rail/northstar commuter lines, and the overall intimate design. This ballpark will be one-of-a-kind and will have its own identity. The best ballparks of baseball are all smaller urban ballparks (and OPEN AIR ballparks) that have incorporated the area infrastructure as part of the overall design. Ballparks such as PNC Park, SBC Park, Fenway Park, Wrigley Field, and Camden Yards all provide unique experiences such as the Roberto Clemente Bridge (PNC), McCovey Cove (SBC), Waveland/Sheffield Avenues along with rooftop seating and ivy walls (Wrigley), the Green Monster (Fenway), and the giant Warehouse (Camden Yards). These are all urban ballparks that have used the area infrastructure to give the ballpark its own unique identity and Minnesota will be able to say the same thing in 2010 when they will have one of the best ballparks in baseball! This will be a ballpark to be proud of and no one is more deserving than Minnesota Twins fans! What a waste of roughly $400 million in tax dollars. $400 million dollars would be much better spent on roads, schools, police and fire departments, or given back to the taxpayers. Why raise taxes on the citizens of a state that already has one of the highest tax burdens in the nation? Apparently the $750 million toy train that runs an annual deficit of $10 million was not a enough to bleed taxpayers. Minnesotans don't own the Twins, so therefore it is not our responsibility to buy them a new place of business. I could only imagine the outrage of some local journalists if politicians proposed building Target, Best Buy, or 3M a $400 million complex. We wouldn't accept that from them, so why accept it from the Twins? C'mon adam you can't be serious comparing target, best buy and 3m to the Twins. Would anyone pay to go watch those companies work? Is there any new photos from ground level of the ballpark? I am a diehard twins fan living in oregon and i am getting board with the web cam I would like to see something new! You are paying to buy the product the company puts out there. The Twins are a corporation, and the games are their product. Comparing the Twins to any other corporation is a fair comparison, since Target, Best Buy, 3M, and the Twins all make enough annually to build the office buildings, warehouses, and yes, stadiums needed for them to efficiently conduct their business. If we don't subsidize other privately owned corporations, why subsidize the Twins? Best Buy, Target and 3M all contribute more to our economy monetarily, yet their would be an outrage to give them money to prevent their departure, why are we doing the same for the Twins? Furthermore, the funding for this stadium is coming from the public, yet the public was not allowed a referrendum to decide the issue. This is America, our forefathers didn't fight against taxation without representation with the hopes we would be forced into the same predicament some two hundred years later. The Twins wanted their stadium, why did we not make them buy their own. This organization is turning into a toddler crying for candy, and our politicians are turing into the parents that are spoiling that puerile child. Ridiculous. Adam, Thanks for writing, but you've joined the party a little late. The deal is done. The stadium is being built. This site is dedicated to making sure that the Twins build a great baseball place -- which it looks like they are doing quite well. You might have better luck on a Vikings board. But even there, the business of professional sports has its own rules (which often make little sense). Cities that want teams have to play by those rules. It ain't fair. Play ball. Posted on January 30, 2008 at 12:32 AM by Rick 17 Adam, You're assuming that Target, Best Buy, 3M, etc. DON'T get subsidies. They absolutely DO! Best Buy got a huge break on their Richfield headquarters. Target is going to get a huge break on their Brooklyn Park complex. And that's just two very recent examples. How many bailouts has NWA had over the years? So you're right. The Twins are no different than any other corporation in this respect. Adam, We're not going to rehash tired old tax policy debates here. Sorry. That ended when Pawlenty (anti-stadium, anti-tax, anti-progress, anti-vision, anti-compassion dude that he is) signed the bill. Let's talk ballpark. (If you want the official position of this blog on the subject, click my name.) Posted on January 31, 2008 at 01:51 AM by Rick 19 Hide Facebook box
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(Click to enlarge.) This view looks through the opening in the fence where the crosswalk will be. I set up my late inning "office" at the drink rail behind section 206 Entrance to the Champions Club Two concepts here remain in the final design. First is the oddly-shaped pavilion in center. Second is the section just above the right field fence. In the current design this section will hang over the field by a few feet. The original doesn't do that, but you can see that the concept goes way back in the planning. Now from the inside looking at the same area. The admin building (note TF logo on banner) The connection from the corner of Seventh Street and Second Avenue. You can now see where the little grassy area and franchise history board will be (the triangular area in the foreground). Now, THIS is just some guy who appears to be hanging out on the LRT tracks talking to himself. I saw it at another park... A sign that your mall is all but dead: roped off escalators. (This is at about 4:00 PM on a weekday.) Final Metrodome baseball sight Selling exactly what they say they're selling. From an earlier visit: Don't bother with those escalators either. They were also roped off. And how about a bench? Or a planter? Or even a trash can? That woman is doing the only thing she can: leaning up against a post to do her texting. If you are into shade, there are lots of opportunities. This is from the last row in section 108 -- scoreboard not blocked in the least. Fan number 3,030,673 came through this gate a few moments after I took this picture. Inspecting the delivery A recent view of the Bud deck in progress The tower is actually finished, though it looks like a work in progress. Ye Olde Tyme Vegetable Cart (and its modern cousin) Walkway sneak peek The renderings and concept model differ here. MOJO thinks this is the perfect place for a party deck. Dave St. Peter seemed to agree! This was from January 19, 2007, when it looked like wonderful things might never happen here. OK, just how many servings per container? Freight trains run in very close proximity (Jerry Bell was standing at my left elbow when I took this picture) Flagpole historian Ben McEvers at far right (click for the full photo set, graciously loaned to this site by Pat Backen) Section 117, Row WC (applies to all the back rows under the Legends Club seating) July 7, 1966 (Click to see the entire scorecard with ads) Welcome Visitors From Two Men On (Accessiblity) Glossary BPM - Ballpark Magic BRT - Bus Rapid Transit DSP - Dave St. Peter FSE - Full Season Equivalent FYS - Fake Yankee Stadium (see also: NYS) HERC - Hennepin Energy Resource Company (aka the Garbage Burner) HPB - Home Plate Box HRP - Home Run Porch LC - Legends Club LRT - Light Rail Transit MBA - Minnesota Ballpark Authority (will own Target Field) MOA - Mall of America MSFC - Minnesota Sports Facilities Commission (owns the Metrodome) NYS - New Yankee Stadium SRO - Standing Room Only STH - Season Ticket Holder TCFBS - TCF Bank Stadium TF - Target Field Selected Bibliography - Analysis Selected Bibliography - Surveys
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