A Moose Tour
July 21, 2009 10:12 PM
Our very own Moose97 (who also partly belongs to KBUN-AM in Bemidji) had the opportunity to take a tour of Target Field today. Sounds like he had a blast and got lots of information. Here's his report.
First things first - I purposely drove in from the west (394) even though I usually come in from the north (94). This was to see the "Twins" sign and the ballpark as I drove in. I must say, I really like to see a city skyline as I drive into town, and the way Target Field just emerges is great. I can imagine driving in on game day from the western burbs and seeing that sign all lit up and really getting excited about watching ball...
Getting to my actual tour - Kevin Smith again was my tour guide. I was part of a group of "high rollers" who asked a lot of questions about suite sales and group rentals - i.e. renting out the party suites and using the park for meetings when the Twins were out of town. Certainly presented an interesting perspective.
Now, walking out onto the concourse and seeing the field - the park looks great. Great sight lines all around. I LOVE the outfield concourse. That has the steel supports, and looks more "traditional" than the main concourse (which is concrete). Also, the LF corner is my favorite part. It's SO open. The entrance where folks come in from LRT and exit the vertical circulation building - it's just a large open area with so much potential. Kevin Smith said this was the area that FSN would likely set up the pre and post game shows. That kind of surprised me since I figured that would happen on Target Plaza.
The Metropolitan Club is really nice. All the little details are just right. I never went to a game at Met Stadium, but all the folks with me on the tour just raved about it.
I personally loved the upper deck. I don't think there's a bad seat up there. For a park that's technically four levels (main deck, club level, suites then ud), the seats still feel very close to the field.
A recent view of the Bud deck in progress
We also got to go up on the Bud Party Deck. This has lots of potential. I can see a lot of folks having a lot of fun up there. At the same time, you look up there from the rest of the ballpark, and it looks so far away. Yet, you get up there, and the field seems so close. Once they get bleachers up there, it should be great.
As I've said, I've been to 21 MLB parks, and will visit 4 new ones later this week and next (new Yankee, Citi, Nationals and Citizens Bank). I think it's still too early to judge a ballpark since it's not complete, but I really liked Target Field. It's not perfect, but it's very nice. I think it has top-5 potential.
On to some of your questions:
The "Shaking Hands" logo/sign in CF - it will be a steel frame structure with LED lighting. They investigated having the players "shake hands" after HR's, but there were "too many zeros" to make it happen, so HR's will be celebrated by a ribbon board display, and some sort of light show with the topiary.
The wind veil is under construction, but when I asked when it would be installed, Kevin Smith said, "Ned Kahn is an artist." That drew a laugh. I didn't get the impression that it was running late, just that artists have their own schedule.
Sod instillation should begin the week of August 24th, pending the weather and the completion of the field prep work.
I did get to sit behind one of the railings in the Field Terrace (I'm going to guess row 1 of section 203), and I didn't have too much problem seeing home plate. Also keep in mind, however, that I'm 6'7"... Also, I sat in a seat in front of someone, and they had no problem up there seeing over me...
I asked about the sun glare issue. Kevin Smith said he'd been out there at all times of the day, and they don't see it as a problem.
The Twins at this time think that if they can get to 16,000 FTE season ticket holders, "they'd be thrilled." Also, it was noted that there are sections that will never be sold as season tickets, and that, "even if we get to 20,000 FTE, they're still 20,000 single game tickets available." On this note, approximately 15% of current Season ticket holders opted to "double up" on season tickets at Target Field.
Catwalks provide access to the View Level seats (from the Ballpark Authority July update)
When asked about how many people could fit into the warming shelters, Kevin Smith answered that he didn't know. Also, those catwalks do go over the warming shelters. You will have to enter the Home Plate View sections above the warming shelters THROUGH the shelters, then go to these catwalks to get to your seats.
The sections down the lines (101-103) seem to angle towards 2nd base.
The louvers for the circulation ramps are set to arrive the week of August 13th.
The no photo policy is a Twins policy, not Mortenson, not Ballpark Authority. It was put in place, somewhat, to preserve the "Ah-ha" moment, but a better way to describe it is to say that the Twins want folks to have a memorable first trip to the ballpark, rather than say, "hey, I've seen all this before." Kevin Smith also said the Twins were trying to fight "misinformation" that they felt was out there.
Hope that helps everyone. I really enjoyed the tour, and wish everyone had a chance to get inside. It is a night and day difference between the Dome and TF. I agree with whoever said that the park will have little "neighborhoods," and I also think that those that are concerned about "hanging out" on the plaza will be pleasantly surprised at all the space available to hang out inside Target Field. That's the other thing to remember - besides that the Dome plaza is a different beast than Target Plaza, there are literally TONS of places inside to just socialize. It really is a great ballpark. I can't wait. Is it April yet?
Not from Moose's tour, but it's an image you need to see. (Click to enlarge greatly.)
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"You talk about the magic, the aura, but what really makes a stadium is the fans. Concrete doesn't talk back to you. Chairs don't talk back to you. It's the people who are there, day in, day out, that makes the place magic."
– Bernie Williams
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This is as close as I could get to a pedestrian-eye view of the main entrance. This is what you'll see as you enter by coming down Sixth Street.
For those who have never seen it up close, that's what it looks like when steam comes out of the HERC plant.
B ramp glimpse
I finally found the corner of TF dedicated to the Senators. What a wonderful sight.
This design has a rather generic quality to it, but they appear to have considered the B garage. Though it isn't part of the model, they've clearly left room for it.
A view straight on of the Pro Shop area and ticket windows (just barely visible). The piers you see beneath the plaza are already almost completed (see final photo).
Limestone facing and flowers on the right field overhang
Looking from First Avenue toward the ballpark (over the top of a construction barricade)
Serious home dugout work in progress.
Here's the entrance from the seating bowl. It's down the outer moat, just beyond the last of the Dugout Box sections.
The official ballpark development area
Looking up Fifth, with LRT tracks and B ramp at left
Section 117, Row WC (applies to all the back rows under the Legends Club seating)
Just so you have a reference, this is an LD ("low def") scoreboard (inset is what the controller probably looks like).
A whole bunch of guys working on something.
Gate 3 "Killebrew"
Center field seating
Of the players up there, only Bert does not have a gate with his number (28) on it at Target Field. You know, there is that door underneath the skywalk on Seventh Street between gates 14 and 29...
Knothole non-view #1
Emergency access as viewed from outside the ballpark
Looking down what was Third Avenue, and will be a freeway entrance ramp beneath the outfield stands.
Dan Mehls, Mortenson Construction
A truck is leaving the HERC plant. Here you can see the proximity to the promenade. For the record, the truck drove right by me and I smelled nothing...
This looks from the base of the stairs, behind the big pillars, toward the street.
Here's a first view of the surprisingly spacious walkway on Fifth between the ballpark and the LRT platform.
The connection from the corner of Seventh Street and Second Avenue. You can now see where the little grassy area and franchise history board will be (the triangular area in the foreground).
This view, through a B ramp window, won't last forever.
At the other end of the bridge, the configuration of the tracks has become clear.
I'm not sure why there's a wreath on Gate 3. (I quickly checked the headlines for any dreaded Killebrew news. Whew.) It looks to be in celebration, maybe of the move.
The plaza as viewed from across the park. The right field overhang section will be built just in from where the plaza supports are.
The LRT station, sitting in a brand new urban canyon, takes shape.
Opening Day 2008 (By Currier & Ives)
BPM - Ballpark Magic
BRT - Bus Rapid Transit
DSP - Dave St. Peter
FSE - Full Season Equivalent
FYS - Fake Yankee Stadium (see also: NYS)
HERC - Hennepin Energy Resource Company (aka the Garbage Burner)
HPB - Home Plate Box
HRP - Home Run Porch
LC - Legends Club
LRT - Light Rail Transit
MBA - Minnesota Ballpark Authority (will own Target Field)
MOA - Mall of America
MSFC - Minnesota Sports Facilities Commission (owns the Metrodome)
NYS - New Yankee Stadium
SRO - Standing Room Only
STH - Season Ticket Holder
TCFBS - TCF Bank Stadium
TF - Target Field
Selected Bibliography - Analysis
First Edition (1992)
Second Edition (2006)
Selected Bibliography - Surveys
Second Edition (1987)
Not a "Third Edition" exactly,
but it replaced the above title
(2000, large coffee table)
Original edition (2000, round)
Revised edition (2006, round)
(2001, medium coffee table)
(2002, small coffee table)
(2003, medium coffee table)
(2004, very large coffee table)
(2006, very large coffee table)
Combines the previous two titles
(2007, medium coffee table)
Selected Bibliography - Nostalgia
Book and six ballpark miniatures