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October 6, 2010 5:47 PM

The place is ready...

These guys are ready...

Once again the weather is ready -- not a cloud in the sky.

Downtown is ready. Twins logos peek out of every crevice.

The media is ready. Camera crews and people with really nice hair have taken over the plaza (kinda like a certain sign I know).

Even the foliage is ready. Everything on the plaza now sports fall colors. What a wonderful touch.

Get ready to cheer: Win Twins!

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Posted on October 6, 2010 at 5:50 PM by Rick 1

Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! I haven't been this excited since, well, exactly one year ago today!!

Posted on October 6, 2010 at 5:58 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 2

How long are you on the plaza, Rick? I'm at Luce getting a slice, and am headed over. -- mike

Posted on October 6, 2010 at 5:58 PM by fiesta Highlight this comment 3


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Posted on October 6, 2010 at 6:15 PM by Rick 5

For those of us watching the game from our couches tonight...there is a live batting practice feed on the twins (and I am sure other teams) website. There is audio commentary from somewhere but I haven't been listening long enough to determine where. MLB.tv maybe?

Posted on October 6, 2010 at 6:23 PM by jared Highlight this comment 6



Seems like the SRO folks were the first through the gates. They've picked
their spots and are pretty vigilant about hanging onto them. (Not that
there's anything wrong with that.)

Posted on October 6, 2010 at 6:29 PM by Rick 7

...and roy halladay no hits the Reds.

Posted on October 6, 2010 at 6:43 PM by jared Highlight this comment 8


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Posted on October 6, 2010 at 7:38 PM by Rick 10



Here is one of the unreserved LC drink rails. It's all but deserted because
you can see almost nothing from it. (She's trying, but she's not
succeeding.)

Posted on October 6, 2010 at 8:09 PM by Rick 11

Typical Twins get a lead on the Yankees in the playoff then blow it!

Posted on October 6, 2010 at 9:34 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 12

How many screams and swear words can you get out in 30 seconds?
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Posted on October 6, 2010 at 10:08 PM by luke Highlight this comment 13

I was curious how the fish tank in Miami was coming along...I swear, the place looks like the Houston Astrodome reincarnate.
Click my name for the webcam.

Thank God we didn't go the roof route here.

Posted on October 6, 2010 at 10:19 PM by luke Highlight this comment 14

Damn I hate the Yankees...

Posted on October 6, 2010 at 11:11 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 15

You're in good company...

Posted on October 6, 2010 at 11:14 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 16

Start spreadin the news!

Posted on October 6, 2010 at 11:21 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 17

Nuts.

Posted on October 6, 2010 at 11:24 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 18

Year after year after year. This is getting too depressing to watch anymore.

Posted on October 6, 2010 at 11:30 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 19

Well, this is Gardy's test. With the best lineup he's ever managed can he settle and then rally the troops to even the score??

Posted on October 6, 2010 at 11:39 PM by MattW Highlight this comment 20

The whole problem stems from the fact that the other team gets to bat too. Gotta feel good about tomorrow though.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 12:04 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 21

*in my gomer pyle voice* SURPRISE SURPRISE SURPRISE!!!!!!!

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 12:14 AM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 22

I am still optimistic, lets attack this questionable Yankee rotation that everyone has been talking about.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 12:25 AM by MattW Highlight this comment 23

SRO in LC was horrible. Way too crowded, and annoying all the way around to have those people that paid money for a bad seat.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 12:51 AM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 24

Did anyone catch the announced attendance tonight? It seemed really packed. I got to the park early and ate my dinner at a drink rail as the Yankee's took batting practice. It was hard to find a spot, as every where I went people had laid jackets, bags and other items on the ledge in an attempt to save the spot. I just wanted a place to eat before I went to my seat, they were very aggressive in protecting that SRO spot.

I was really surprised that there weren't more Yankee fans in attendance. During the series in May, there were easily double or more Yankee fans here compared to what I saw tonight. Maybe it wasn't worth the trip, just to see them beat up on the Twin's again.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 01:09 AM by minn55441 Highlight this comment 25

For those that watched the game on TV how did the strike zone look?

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 01:20 AM by TK Highlight this comment 26

minn55441,

42,032 (Also now the new Wikipedia TF attendance with SRO capacity)

Not bad for a park that holds 39,504.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 01:31 AM by TK Highlight this comment 27

"Maybe it wasn't worth the trip, just to see them beat up on the Twin's again."

It's probably getting to be old hat for them.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 05:47 AM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 28

TK-
Sabathia was getting calls low and away out of the zone all night. The ump wasn't consistent with them though. Sabathia was hitting the same spot three, four, five pitches in a row and got strike, ball, strike, strike, ball. The left side of the plate wasn't getting many calls all night. Liriano was hitting spots pretty well, painting the edges and aforementioned corner well to similar results. That was when he was hitting them and not overthrowing the ball into the dirt. The yanks in the 6th were making great swings on good pitches just off the plate that Liriano couldn't get them to miss.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 07:52 AM by jared Highlight this comment 29

Did anyone else notice that a lot of the vendors were not the usual Target Field vendors? The ID badges were from different teams. I know for a fact that I saw one with a couple White Sox badges and another with a Cardinals badge. Does anyone know the story behind the "outsourced" vendors?

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 08:54 AM by Tyler Highlight this comment 30

Major buzz kill last night. I though Crawford struggled behind the plate all night on balls and strikes. Yankee players lurching out of the box all night on pitches that are strikes and getting the calls for balls. Cisssssssssco trying to hard to get the slider over causing the passed balls. Terrible pitches to Granderson and Crains pitch to Tex's 2 run jack was waaaaaaaaaaaaay up in the zone and juicy! Once again Skanks getting it done. That top of 6th inning was what an hour long?????FCOL! It's fer sure do or die today!

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 09:08 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 31

Tyler - I was standing just inside gate 34 after batting practice was done and overheard a conversation between a beer vendor and 2 customers. The customers were asking him about Wally the Beerman and the vendor did not even know who Wally was. I thought that was strange but that would make sense if he was from out of town.

Maybe the playoffs are a "perk" for top selling vendors for the concessions company?

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 09:21 AM by Stevie B Highlight this comment 32

the umpiring wasn't consistent, knock me over with a feather. the twins don't have a clutch performer. it's why kirby puckett is an icon. the ballpark looked awesome on television. did the state proud.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 09:22 AM by tim Highlight this comment 33

The strike zone was inconsitent during the game. But what it came down to was going 0 for 7 with runners in scoring positions. Plain and simple the Twins need to do much much better at the plate.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 09:37 AM by Jeff Highlight this comment 34

Gees a nice crisp 3:47 game last night! LOL! Another reason to hate the Skank!

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 10:16 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 35

Jeff ---

BINGO!

I'm sorry, but it's the same tired old story - the Twins scratch and claw and manage a couple of (or few) runs and then along come the Yankees and KER-PLOW, KER-PLOW, KER-PLOW. DAMN! And, how often is Cuddy going to ding one to dead center? Should have been worse. DAMN! They need to win tonight!

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 10:17 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 36

Regarding the Vendors. I happen to work with 2 vendors, and they said that the Twins insisted that there be at least 150 vendors roaming the stands for the playoffs. Many of the usual vendors were not thrilled with this, as 143 is the most they had ever used in a game this year, and we've been dealing with sellouts all year long. So Delaware was forced to import vendors from other stadiums througout the midwest. I noticed vendors from US Cellular and Busch, but I heard there were also some from Miller Park.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 10:38 AM by ajax Highlight this comment 37

I saw lots of familiar vendors last night. What I did notice was all-new advertising on the ribbon boards between innings. Schweigert and the Star Tribune never used to he up there...plus the logos of every single MLB sponsor.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 10:45 AM by fiesta Highlight this comment 38

They letting you bring food and water bottles into the game for playoffs?

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 11:01 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 39

Is it so tough to get people to sell peanuts at a game that you have to import vendors from another city?? I sold programs at Redskins games when I was in 8th grade. My "training" for it lasted 5 minutes. I guess the vending world has changed in the past 30+ years!

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 11:06 AM by BR Highlight this comment 40

Twinkfan, You can bring in the same stuff as the regular season.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 11:17 AM by Joe117 Highlight this comment 41

45 vendors brought in from as far away as Cincinnati is what I am told. Where I sat down the right field line on the upper level, there were only 3 regular vendors that I saw. Everyone else was new. I'm guessing the new guys got the last picks of assignment, so if you sat in the lower deck, especially in foul ball territory, you probably only saw the regular target field vendors.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 11:30 AM by ajax Highlight this comment 42

Thanks Joe, my playoff tickets had an incert that said no bervages of any kind allowed in. I assume that included water bottles. Got to get my rum into the game man!

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 11:35 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 43

TwinkFan, they may make you empty the bottle out before you go in. While I did get in with a full water bottle a few times, more recently they've been making me dump it out, so I gave up trying to beat the system.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 11:45 AM by fiesta Highlight this comment 44

Thanks Fiesta, may have to crotch that rum in! LOL! Be crying dumping all that rum out!

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 11:50 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 45

The monkeys stand for honesty,
Giraffes are insincere,
And the elephants are kindly but
They're dumb.
Orangutans are skeptical
Of changes in their cages,
And the zookeeper is very fond of rum.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 12:08 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 46

Ah, old friends...

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 12:15 PM by Rick 47

Flashbacks of Ruben Sierra last night..3 hours sleep,work a half a day and back on the train in 2 hours...I have faith.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 12:36 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 48

Where is everybody?

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 5:51 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 49

Go figure...another Hunter Wendelstedt-Ron Gardenhire argument...

Frustrating as heck being a Twins fan and getting stuck with the Yankees every year regardless of record.

It's almost like the Yankees were happy being the wild card team and facing the Twins rather than the Rangers, and can you blame them??

It's even more frustrating watching Texas go up 2-0 on Tampa Bay.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 7:19 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 50

Earlier I was feeling a palpable sense of doom. A string of lousy AB's will do that.

Now, even though they're behind, the doom has lifted ever so slightly. Two runs seems somehow surmountable.

Then Cuddyer has another terrible AB. Hoo boy.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 7:26 PM by Rick 51

If we play the Rays we sweep them but we always get the Skankees. Since 2002 the Yankees have lost the ALDS every year except when they play the Twins! The '02 and '05 Angels '06 Tigers and '07 Indians. They have to be just laughing knowing they are playing the Twins.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 7:35 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 52

It's telling when puny little accomplishments like a base hit, a single strikeout, or getting the guy out on a routine ground ball feel like monumental achievements when they're against the Yankees. And it sucks like total ass. Every year, the atmosphere of these games always feels like the Twins are a minor league team going up against a big league team. At least that's the way the lineup acts. The pitching's been rock solid.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 7:38 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 53

Logic argues against the mentalities of firedog and Luke, but I'm starting to think like you guys...

This Twins-Yankees thing is turning into a self-fulfilling prophecy. And it's the Twins that are doing the fulfilling part...

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 7:40 PM by theloniousjoe Highlight this comment 54

Granted we're at the top of the order after Hardy's at bat, but if we need to use a pinch hitter, we have Punto, Casilla, Tolbert, Repko, and Butera to choose from. This is where lacking Morneau and not developing or acquiring a solid bench power hitter could really kill us.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 7:41 PM by Jorge Highlight this comment 55

Twins should just save the money on airfare and forfeit game 3. They have no heart, no clutch hitting 0-10 with RISP. Watching the Twins is like watching groundhog day, they get a lead and then blow it and then lose. 11 straight postseason losses in a row and 11 straight home losses. Gardy is now 6-20 in postseason. It will be hard to be competitive with Mauer's contract for the next 8 years, paying 1/4 of your salary to one player who lacks power just kills you. On a positive note TF looked awesome from the blimp shots the last two nights.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:15 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 56

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Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:17 PM by TK Highlight this comment 57

It's going to be a long Friday, but at least the Twins can't lose!

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:18 PM by TK Highlight this comment 58

Shake it off guys, rest up, get it out of your system and come back on Saturday and give them hell! If they can beat us here we can beat them there. Make them earn it!

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:23 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 59

Does anyone know if I'll get all of the service charges returned to me when they refund Game 5 tickets and ALCS tickets?

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:27 PM by ML Highlight this comment 60

Where is the leadership? IF there is leadership, who's got it, whether hidden in the clubhouse or expressing it on the field.

Cuddy looked really frustrated when he got called off on the pop fly to end the 7th...

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:29 PM by TK Highlight this comment 61

ML,

That's a big negatory!!

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:39 PM by antifire Highlight this comment 62

Something tells me to be optimistic, and it just pains me right now to watch the current game on TBS...

Ah to be young again and the memories of '87 and '91

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:46 PM by TK Highlight this comment 63

Thanks antifire. I was just trying to figure out how much to refund the rest of my season ticket group.

Put a fork in them. We're toast.

At least there's only about 128 days until Spring Training starts.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:47 PM by ML Highlight this comment 64

ML - if you are talking about the invoice fee for full plan holders, none of that gets refunded. If you are talking about additional tickets through the lottery or online sales for partial ticket holders, I believe all but the electronic delivery fee is refundable (though the official postseason info page isn't very clear on that).

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:07 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 65

Dear Target Field: Thanks for all the memories during this Inaugural Season. From the open house, to Jim Thome surpassing Harmon Killebrew on the career homerun list. We look forward to sitting in your forest green seats again next year, with a new video board atop the Metropolitan Club, and the raising of yet another Central Division flag with nothing else to go with it.
As for Target Field, on to Season II.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:07 PM by luke Highlight this comment 66

From now on, the American League should alter its playoff format to include two wildcard teams if the Twins win the Central Division title. That way, the Twins can be acknowledgeed as AL Central Champs and go home, satisfied with a job well done. Then the extra wildcard team can take their place against the Yanks. This would eliminate a 163rd game for anybody, and we might see a more competitive playoff slate.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:13 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 67

Anyone know the website where the strike zone data / graphs is located?

I need to see how bad some of tonight's calls were... Even up in 325 we could see that there were some suspect calls.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:16 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 68

Aha, found it. Not a very user-friendly website, but more data than you can shake a stick at.

Clicky the linky, you know the drill. :-)

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:42 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 69

Letterman just poked fun at our new stadium...

"The Twins have a brand new stadium, but they forgot to install the home-field advantage."

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 10:39 PM by TK Highlight this comment 70

He's not making fun of the stadium - the barb was rightly directed at the team itself.

Posted on October 7, 2010 at 11:44 PM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 71

How does Carl Pavano get a standing ovation tonight after giving up 4 runs on 10 hits in 6 innings? I don't get most Minnesota sports fans. They're too nice or don't really know much about the game.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 12:57 AM by FD Highlight this comment 72

FD....it's definitely the latter

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 01:53 AM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 73

What they need to do about the strike zone is use fox track, and the home plate ump holds a device that will say ball or strike, that way it will be fair every time!

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 01:54 AM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 74

Does anyone know how this Fox Track works? Is the ball passing through an electronic plane of some sort, or is it a guy placing these pitches utilizing the centerfield camera? If there's a guy tracking pitches useing the CF camera, wouldn't pitches be just as suseptible to human subjectivity, conscious or otherwise?

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 02:14 AM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 75

if we have cliff lee we win game one. but we didn't pull the trigger on the trade, because we're the quaint little minnesota twins. that's the "twins way". You need a shut-down number one pitcher in the playoffs and we have squat. and we basically havn't hit a lick since we clinched the division. put another little division champ flag atop the leftfield stands....i didn't think i would actually see the twins become a laughingstock of sorts but it's happened.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 07:10 AM by tim Highlight this comment 76

Now that we have this nice, new, shiny stadium maybe we can find a real baseball team to play in it!

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 07:15 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 77

Gorgeous night at the ballpark last night, except for the home team losing... /sigh

I bought the Steve Berg book yesterday. Highly recommended!

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 08:33 AM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 78

Even the national media is complaining about last night's great umpiring by Wendelstedt. Ultimately the Twins were responsible for losing last night's game, but its sad to hear when people say Wendelstedt should of never been considered for umpiring any playoff games this year. Click my name for the article.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 09:14 AM by Jeff Highlight this comment 79

Groundhog day at the yard again last night. Well it was a nice run! Who would have thunk shorts and short sleaves at the ballpark last night! Spring training just down the road! Skanks got our number and then some!

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 09:51 AM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 80

Maybe they should concentrate on winning a game rather than whining about calls. It's extremely frustrating - but, as the article points out, many of those terrible calls actually went the Twins' way.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 09:59 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 81

Where have you gone Joe Mauer, Jim Thome, JJ Hardy, Jason Kubel and Michael Cuddyer?

The Twins are 0-10 at the plate with runners in scoring position...unacceptable

Where/who are the leaders on this team?? Someone please step up and carry this team...

Both Pavano and Liriano pitched good enough to give the Twins a chance to win, unfortunately, the offense just stinks and went into the tank. Why do the hitters never take some pitches and wear down the pitcher? (Span did have a really nice at-bat to lead off game 2 but that was about it) Why do they always chase bad pitches out of the zone and groundout in critical situations?

The reality is the Twins would be essentially a .500 team if they played in the AL EAST...just like Toronto would be winning AL CENTRAL DIVISION titles if they played in the AL CENTRAL. In fact, I think Toronto is a better team than the Twins.

You seriously have to wonder if this Joe Mauer contract is going to handcuff this franchise in the future.

The players need to perform better on the field, plain and simple.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 10:05 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 82

Careful Mike, lest you rile up the "the Twins HAVE TO resign Mauer" crowd.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 10:22 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 83

I don't worry about the Mauer contract as much as I worry about the whole sport. The current division/playoff format and unbalanced schedule serve primarily to concentrate talent in specific areas.

Bud Selig is frequently quoted as saying it gives more teams a chance to win, but he neglects to mention that there's a thumb on the scale tipping it toward the AL East. Seven of the past 10 World Series (and 10 of 15 in the Wild Card era) have featured an AL East team.

Competitive balance? Nope.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 10:25 AM by Rick 84

From the Passan article:

"Remedying a missed call is as easy as having an extra umpire in the booth."

At least the correct solution is starting to crack through some skulls.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 10:27 AM by Rick 85

What I see on here is people grappling for answers. The answer is simple: The Twins aren't good enough. It's not about underperforming. Kubel is a below-par DH. Cuddyer is a below-par offensive player. Hardy is a joke offensively. Baker, average. Slowey, average. Blackburn, average. Hudson, average. Average them out, and you get -- OMG -- average. They make the playoffs because the other teams in the division are BELOW average.

But if we want to keep hoisting them up as "underperformers" -- just wait! they'll come around! -- then you better be patient and naive.

Also, add to that the Twins' mantra -- one day at a time boys, not too high, not too low. Works well in the AL Central regular season. But that does not work in the playoffs. You play like that in the playoffs and you run out of days at a time.

But, hey, that "10" pennant will look swell blowing in the breeze next spring.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 10:54 AM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 86

And as usual, TTH is the smartest kid in class. Maybe this time the lemmings will listen?

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 10:58 AM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 87

TTH ---

You make everything so simple and easy to understand! Now, if you would just belt some people across their brow with a 2 x 4 (or teach them to read), maybe they would get it.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 11:02 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 88

That's kind of what I'm saying TTH, though I'd use the word "elite".

The Twins are stocked with "good" players, while the Yankees are stocked with "elite" players. The Twins are built to be competitive, the Yankees are built to blow everyone else out of the water (even if it doesn't always work out that way).

In the non-AL East divisions, the level of talent required to get a shot at the postseason is not as high as it is in the AL East. But that means that the playoff playing ground isn't anywhere near even. The Twins and the Yankees are playing, quite literally, in different leagues.

And I think Mike's point about swapping the Twins with the Blue Jays is also dead on. These are teams with similar levels of talent, but very different in playoff appearances because of where we play.

The division/playoff structure may give more teams chances to advance, but they are pretty much phony chances. Everyone would be better off if MLB ditched both the unbalanced schedule and the division structure and had a post-season tournament built from the top four teams in each league (after giving the DH to the NL to make sure there is parity between the leagues).

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 11:57 AM by Rick 89

When the Twins were playing the Jays in the last homestand there were some jabs at the Jays about hitting all those home runs but not being in the playoffs. Among others, Pavano and one of our broadcasters mentioned that. But look at their regular season record and how many games they played with New York, Tampa Bay and Boston.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 12:20 PM by robin Highlight this comment 90

Elsewhere I wrote that Selig ought to be hung on a spike by his balls so that the game would have a chance of finding someone to return it to the sort of purity it deserves. That is not going to happen as long as TV and East Coast money are allowed to hold sway. Now I say this: Rick for Comish!

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 12:43 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 91

Toranto's record against the Central and West was only 39-33. They had the 2nd most wins against the East. One more win than the Yankees and 2 more than the Red Sox. Toranto did not miss the playoffs because they lost games to the East. They were out because they didn't have a good enough record outside the division.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 12:43 PM by Joe117 Highlight this comment 92

Span's first at-bat last night was a thing of beauty. Kinda sad that it might be the offensive highlight of the night. Yea, Orlando Hudson hit a home run, and Delmon Young hit a double (that should have been caught) - a guy fouling off a bunch of pitches was our best at-bat of the game.

Cuddy striking out on a pitch that bounced a foot in front of the plate was just painful to watch...

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:12 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 93

Slight correction: Delmon Young was credited with a triple, I thought it was a double and an extra base when Granderson bobbled the ball off the wall.

Either way, it should have been caught, Granderson had it in his glove and dropped it.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:17 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 94

Well, I hate to say this, but the highlight of the game for me was Gardy getting tossed. (I agree that Span did what he was supposed to do and it was great.)

I'm writing about this now for a new post, but what is up with the scoreboard showing "Make Some Noise" about every five seconds? Did anybody else notice this?

It started during the pregame show and continued throughout the game. It's kind of annoying because the message to the fans in the stands is, "Hey! You guys are letting your team down. You're not being very good fans right now."

Quietness somehow has seemed the appropriate response throughout most of these two games.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM by Rick 95

Did you enjoy your summer at the ballpark? I did, I watched 47 games and had a great time at every one of them. Do I wish that we had beaten the Yankees and were on our way to the World Series? Sure, but there is only one world champ each season. Does that mean that every other team stinks? Does that mean that every fan of each of those must be miserable?

Give me a break. If you felt that the time you spent a Target field this summer was a waste, just because we didn't win it all, you must live in a different world than me. Things don't always turn out how I would like, I just deal with it. If you don't like the players the Twins currently have on their roster, if you don't like Billy Smith and you don't like Gardy, you have a choice. Find another team or another sport that wins every game and never disappoints you.

OK, let me have it. I'm a Kool-Aid drinker. I am naive, I believe everything the Twin's are trying to stuff down my throat. You live your life, I will live mine. I had a great time following the Twin's this summer. I spent some quality time with my son and saw some great baseball along the way. I wouldn't trade those memories for anything in the world.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:24 PM by minn55441 Highlight this comment 96

Perhaps the videoboard was referring to the Twins' bats to make some noise and not the fans in the stands.... --rim shot--

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:16 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 97

Or Rick having all the video boards display this pulsating CLAP, CLAP, CLAP graphic. Fans respond to how the play is on the field, plain and simple. The Twins just didn't give much for people to cheer about.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:45 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 98

I definitely noticed the 'make some noise' flashing on the boards. It seemed rather desperate after a while.

I was more annoyed at the extra time between innings. Every half inning it seemed like the players were ready, and then we'd all have to wait for the commercial break to be over. Maybe that's why the Yankees are so good in the post-season, they need that extra time to rest. ;-)

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:47 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 99

Rim shots aside, my point is that when the team isn't giving the fans anything to make noise about, putting "Make Some Noise" on the ribbon boards every few minutes just makes it worse. It points out to everyone just how little the fans have to cheer about.

And is fake noise-making really of any use to the home town team?

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:48 PM by Rick 100

"I was more annoyed at the extra time between innings."

Why be annoyed? Do like I do - wash the car, walk the dog, tune the motorcycle --- you can get lots done during commercial breaks.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:53 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 101

I have to pat myself on the back. I called the "attitude" that exudes from Hunter Wendelstedt earlier this week when the umpire crews were released. Last night was vintage. He is a scumbag and goes out of his way to bait players/managers putting himself as the center of attention. A quick trigger finger, turns his back on Gardy, and then patronizing him. This guy is a blowhard. BTW: It is no wonder that the MLB umpires are having a tough time in recent years. Take a look at who is teaching/running the umpire schools during the winter...

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:14 PM by Max Highlight this comment 102

Well I was at the game and walked up to my seats in sec 323 and everybody was standing up during a Skankee at bat? I thought what is this? Is this gonna be like high school or college game where you stand the entire game? Thank god that didn't happen, I thought the crowd noise was good the entire game. Sure after the Skanks got up 4-2 it was a buzz kill. Gonna try and move to sec 323 for next year from 326 for my 20 game pack. Anywhere from row 2-7 would be great. I like the sun during day games! Did see lots of out of town concession stand guys at the game. Also saw Wally standing next to a very sexy brunette shelling out brews at Sneaky Petes before and after the game! LOL!

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:22 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 103

Regarding the "Make Some Noise" and similar signs ...

One of the things that I really don't like about Target Field is the in game signs like this, not that they don't belong, but that whoever is in charge of them for the Twins has no clue how to "read" a game or crowd (or maybe they can't see either). I wasn't there last night, but have seen it first hand every game I went to this season.

If they want to see how to do it properly, come to Coors Field next season.

It was eerily quiet though at times last night - once or twice I had to see if I had accidentally turned down the volume.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:25 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 104

Well it will be just a matter of time when all these umps will be wired up and some guy in a booth will be making all the calls including balls and strikes for the umps to relay to the public. Pitch tracker will be used and they ump will get the signal and make the calls. It will be coming!

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:25 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 105

On the bright side ---- ALDS stuff (sweatshirts, etc.) should get cheap pretty quick - after Saturday the Twins will be history until spring and you can always wear stuff inside-out. Ever wonder what becomes of stuff ordered but to no avail (ALCS for instance).

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:43 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 106

Regarding the stuff ordered, but not needed because a team doesn't make it - MLB contracts to have the clothing, at least the licensed stuff, sent overseas to charitable organizations. Don't know what happens to the other stuff.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:47 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 107

I was sitting in front of a Yankees fan last night, and he commented on the lack of fan interaction during the majority of the game.

Also on the main scoreboard during the game, they would show video/pictures of fans just sitting there, bored, upset, annoyed, and so on. Why in the heck would you display that on the main scoreboard during the game. It doesn't exactly motivate or get people excited about the game. The music between innings also was a buzz kill at times.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:54 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 108

Well at least I do not remember hearing the GB Legighton song! LOL! Did they gas that forever?

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:56 PM by TwinkFan Highlight this comment 109

You may not have noticed, but the first round of shirts that teams wear when they've won something usually just say the name of the accomplishment, not the team name. That leaves time (12 hours or less) for the shirt makers to manufacture the actual shirts which will be sold to fans.

In some cases, I know they've made limited quantities with all of the possible outcomes just for the players. Either way, nothing gets mass-produced until the moment the winner is known.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 4:02 PM by Rick 110

I agree with you completely minn55441. Thank you for saying it.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 4:03 PM by msp Highlight this comment 111

I also agree with minn55441. It's been a hugely enjoyable season, regardless what happens next.

(Need I point out that the Twins are not out of anything yet? And sometimes this team needs to get its back against the wall -- i.e. 2008 and 2009 -- before they kick into that mysterious extra gear that they have. I suppose we all could be more optimistic if only any Twin had ever hit a grand slam off of Mariano Rivera at Yankee Stadium to win a game before...oh, wait...)

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 4:15 PM by Rick 112

What odds would you give the Twins to force a game 5? (IE: what are the odds we win 2 games in NY)... 10%? 15%? What do you guys think?

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 4:17 PM by tom Highlight this comment 113

Hmm, odds aren't my thing. What does Las Vegas think?

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 4:22 PM by Rick 114

As soon as the Yanks dispatch the Twins this weekend, personnel at Wincraft in Winona will be called in to start work on commemorative gear for the Yanks. This has been SOP for years. Employees are almost like on-call on nights when it looks like a team or teams will clinch. Once the game is over, or the outcome seems a mortal lock, the TVs go off and folks head to work. Within hours, T-shirts and sweaters are on a truck headed for the winning city.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 4:38 PM by Dr. X Highlight this comment 115

From the Star:

Catcher Joe Mauer tried keeping the team's spirits up on Thursday night after its 5-2 loss in Game 2 at Target Field.

"Joe Mauer was pretty vocal," said lefthander Brian Duensing, who will start Game 3 for the Twins. "He kept telling us it's no time to quit now. We're down two games, but we have to win anyway. Keep our heads up and keep playing hard."

So motivational...

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 5:43 PM by TK Highlight this comment 116

For those fans with faith, the Twins released more tickets for Tuesdays game. Go to the Twins schedule.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 5:53 PM by TK Highlight this comment 117

I pity the fool who thinks the Yankees have tomorrow night in the bag. I like Duensing over Hughes but only if this team is motivated to leave it all out on the field!!

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 6:03 PM by tom (aka tcmark) Highlight this comment 118

tom (aka tcmark),

I hope the 25-man roster has the same opinion...

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 6:23 PM by TK Highlight this comment 119

I always get one of the T-shirts that are the same as the ones worn after they have clinched the division - and I believe they all have "TC" or "Twins" somewhere on them.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 6:36 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 120

Don't think it'll happen this time, but teams coming back from an 0-2 deficit to win a 5-game series is more common than I remember. Just in the AL - Seattle over New York in 1995, Boston over Cleveland in 1999, New York over Oakland in 2001, and Boston over Oakland in 2003.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 7:22 PM by Expectorate Highlight this comment 121

Don't call them Twinkies....

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 7:28 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 122

The Twins winning the AL Central is becoming the baseball-version of "Mission Accomplished". I was rather stunned by the run from mid-July on, but i smelled a rat. I couldn't put my finger on it...soft schedule, luck, whatever...but something didn't seem right. We didn't seem that good. I tried to enjoy it, but when a date with the Yankees started to approach, I knew we were screwed. I think it has become a mental thing with this team now. And, Gardy should've yanked Liriano earlier than he did in Game #1 too.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 7:47 PM by twinswschamps2010 Highlight this comment 123

There's a commercial now where someone shoots a tranquilizer dart at a projectionist in order to steal the current movies.

Well, TBS needs to hire just such a sharp-shooter to find and "disable" the guy who is perpetually whistling into the crowd microphone in Philly.

Alternately, they could use their secondary pair of mics, I suppose. But that would be pretty easy... (Perhaps the audio technician is old enough that he can't hear those frequencies.)

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 7:55 PM by Rick 124

Chapman looks like he's spending more energy chewing that wad of bubblegum than he was on pitching.

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 8:07 PM by F_T_K Highlight this comment 125

Twins played like crap the last two weeks of the season. No surprise that they weren't able to "turn it on" against NY.

Giving up lead off walks, a leaderless team, 0 for 10 w/ RISP, Butera wearing #7, and a couple of defensive miscues. Pretty easy formula to be down 2-0.

Regardless of the series outcome, however, TF is a tremendous success and it has made Twins games immensely more enjoyable.

PS - where'd all the people go who said the ballpark would smell like a garbage dump???

K

Posted on October 8, 2010 at 10:26 PM by Kramer Highlight this comment 126


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