March 2, 2007 5:16 PM
Today's article in the Star Tribune got buried pretty quickly on their web site under an avalanche of snow coverage. But it's interesting because it names six sites that Hennepin County has discussed and presented to the Twins for consideration.
1. "a 40-acre parcel near the new Target Co. campus in Brooklyn Park...along Hwy. 610 owned by a three-person limited partnership"
2. "property owned by the Star Tribune near the Metrodome"
3. "the Farmers Market on the near North Side of downtown Minneapolis"
4. "property along the Mississippi River near Dowling Avenue in north Minneapolis"
5. "an undisclosed parcel in St. Louis Park"
6. "the Brookdale Mall property"
I'm glad to see the Farmer's Market on the county's list. That would make a great site for a stadium. The view of downtown really is better from there.
The article also includes two nuggets worthy of further digestion:
County Board Chairman Randy Johnson said that he had recently met privately with a Hines Interests official to try to break the stalemate, but that he was unsuccessful. Hines, a Texas-based developer, reportedly owns an option on the stadium land through an agreement with Land Partners II and had previously announced its own redevelopment plans for other land surrounding the stadium.
But Johnson said he came away with few answers, including details on Hines' specific role in the stadium land's ownership.
"I kept asking, 'What's Hines' involvement?' " he said. "I never get very many answers."
The emphasis above is mine, but it could explain a lot. Perhaps the LPII folks are bound by some agreement they made when they thought the Legislature would never pass stadium legislation. Just a thought.
Next is Mike Kaszuba's characterization of LPII's reaction to the $13MM offer:
Spokesmen for Land Partners II have scoffed at the county's initial sale-price offer, saying the property is worth considerably more.
Scoffing is not really a good place to start negotiating. Rich Pogin asked me in a comment below what fuels my negative impressions of LPII's behavior. It's this sort of thing. (I've since begun a conversation with him which I hope to be able to share in this space very soon.)
Call for Ballpark Sites Redux
So the county has their list, and we have ours. Two sites have been added to our list from your comments:
7. Kmart site at Lake and Nicollet (thanks Andrew -- I love this one, but can't imagine the pieces falling into place in time)
8. Bryn-Mawr Meadows (near the impound lot, but not part of it)
Keep the ideas coming!
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That's some scary-ass scaffolding, if you ask me.
Notice that the wooden-backed club seats are now covered by a green tarp for protection from the elements.
A familiar view through the top floor elevator lobby window in ramp B (HRP View and Terrace).
Photo by Tyler Wycoff
Visual depiction of current stadium legislation
Sometime in the late 1980s: B ramp is under construction. Not yet built: Target Center, I-394 and the A ramp.
Kirby Jr. set to take down the last number
Sharing and Caring Hands, as viewed from the ballpark site about a block away. Note transaction in progress in the shadows.
A mass of rebar and complicated cable runs ready for a pour.
The outfield stands taking shape.
Work on the pavilion in center.
Walkway sneak peek
Home Plate Terrace -- really great seats; maybe my personal, budget-based favorite
Ben took this picture of me (carrying my mostly useless camera) and Twins rep Chris Iles down by the admin building
This looks south and shows how the Northstar tracks are sheltered by the promenade above. This is the side which faces the HERC plant.
The field will feel very close.
What can you see from up there? Some say not much.
Here's a closer look at the bullpen area. It's hard to tell for sure, but I think there is still an opening to the concourse right above.
Having fun. Installing limestone. Good gig.
BPM - Ballpark Magic
BRT - Bus Rapid Transit
DSP - Dave St. Peter
FSE - Full Season Equivalent
FYS - Fake Yankee Stadium (see also: NYS)
HERC - Hennepin Energy Resource Company (aka the Garbage Burner)
HPB - Home Plate Box
HRP - Home Run Porch
LC - Legends Club
LRT - Light Rail Transit
MBA - Minnesota Ballpark Authority (will own Target Field)
MOA - Mall of America
MSFC - Minnesota Sports Facilities Commission (owns the Metrodome)
NYS - New Yankee Stadium
SRO - Standing Room Only
STH - Season Ticket Holder
TCFBS - TCF Bank Stadium
TF - Target Field
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