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BallparkMagic presents a little bit of Target Field each day. (Click to enlarge.) Places: Legends Club, Part 1 (Carew Side)August 24, 2010 1:27 AM The wood-backed seats of the Legends Club are one of the first things you notice when visiting Target Field. They jump out against the green of everything else, and you might wonder, "How do I get there?"
The best way to get in would be to know somebody. The seats are sold only in full season packages, and there's a personal seat license required before you can buy anything. Individual games are available on the secondary market, of course, but they remain a premium buy.
Still, you get what you pay for. These may be the very best seats in the house. In addition to being very comfortable (the seat bottoms are generously padded), the section is high enough to see the whole field, close enough to feel intimately connected to the action, and the amenities make it a great gameday experience. Within the club there are three distinct zones. Today we'll look at the third base side, which features the Carew atrium.
As you can see, the glass-enclosed area is huge. Even during inclement weather, this club never gets over-crowded. There are drink rails all along the glass, making this a great place to watch an inning or two. These views were mostly taken during the July 30 game against the Mariners, which was, of course, sold out.
When sitting behind this glass, you do lose the crowd noise. You can see people jumping up and down, but you have no sense of the full atmosphere until one of the nearby doors opens and a gust of cheers bursts through. It sort of makes me wish those windows could be opened (like up in the Twins Pubs) when conditions allow. As with the lounges we looked at last week, a primary purpose here is to make food and restrooms easily available. As such, the concession stands are plentiful, large, and fully stocked.
But you can also get all kinds of other food and beverage. The Carew atrium features an elaborate bar beneath Rod's portrait, and a one-trip buffet ($19.95 for all you can load onto one plate) at the opposite end of the atrium.
Of course, there are extensive displays of Carew memorabilia. As with many of the other displays around the park, it's an eclectic mix, but well worth the time to take in. (The photos below really don't do them justice.)
A finishing touch in each atrium is a fireplace, probably not lit because it was such a warm day.
This atrium, along with the Puckett one, is one of the most spectacular places in the ballpark.
Thanks to Max and twinswschamps2010 for adding/clarifying info in this post. Up next: The Puckett Side CommentsTo utilized enhanced comment features, please enable cookies in your browser. The legends club is a thing of beauty. It's where I'll want my season tickets way in the future. When they did the open house I watched the game 163 replay on the scoreboard from those seats. They're awesome. Pleasantly surprised to see that ticket prices barely went up. I'm going to upgrade from a 20 game to a 40 game and that just made it an even easier decision. Rick: I believe the Twins played the Mariners on July 30th... The Legends Club is where I share seats. They are tremendous. I wonder if the Twins ever completely sold out the LC? I remember earlier in the year there still being seats available in Sections A and R (the furthest out sections). Nice to be able to escape the oppressive humidity on some summer days while also having no lines for concessions. The "Chef Stand" that Rick mentioned is actually a 1 trip buffet. For $19.95 you get to go thru the line once and put as much on your plate as you can. Another really nice thing is the Concierge. They have sunscreen, medicine, etc. free of charge to those who need some in the LC. The Twins roll out a pretty impressive dessert cart starting around the 4th inning in the LC. I haven't tried anything yet, but it sure looks good. Yep, Mariners it was. And there's a picture of that amazing dessert cart coming when we get to the Puckett side. Posted on August 24, 2010 at 09:32 AM by Rick 3 I forgot to mention it in the post, but I don't think there's any free food in the LC. Is that true, Max (or anybody)? Posted on August 24, 2010 at 09:56 AM by Rick 4 Those are great pictures that do it justice. I think the best values in Target Field are the Legends Club ($50-$55)for premium seats, and the field view ($11) for cheap seats. They did sell out the Club...I bought some of the final seats, but they were available as late as the beginning of May. I think the PSL fee scared some people away. I would honestly rather sit in the Legends seats than the Champions Club seats because I like the baseline angle as opposed to looking through the net behind home plate. On the flip side, I think the worst values in the ballpark are probably the Home Run Porch View and the Grandstand...which is probably why you saw the price decreases in those areas.
Posted on August 24, 2010 at 09:59 AM by twinswschamps2010
I don't see the LC as a good value. To me your paying more for an opportunity to spend more money. What do you really get? a padded seat. The people in front of you in the home plate box are paying $5 less and are sitting way closer to the field. If you are in the last section of the LC the people below you are paying $18 less. you also dont have to pay the fee to have the seats. These areas are created because they get people to pay more for a seat that is not as good. IMO I remember reading DSP somewhere saying that they "under-priced" the LC seating/licenses. His basis for saying so, apparently, was how quickly everything got snapped up. Joe- I might be wrong, but I think the price points are about the same for most Legends Club or right below it, and I think you're looking at $50 vs. $40 for the outer edges of the Legends Club vs. below it. I like being elevated a little more than the lower level, the A/C escape, the avoidance of the concourse (as the SRO population swells), no wait for restrooms/food. And, of course, the padded seats. All of that is worth the extra to me. I'll be the first to admit I could care less about the buffets, tables, bars, etc. If I were to pick any seat to watch the game from, I would pick Legends Club M-O. I'm not there, but I'm close enough. I think the PSL was a bit odd...I don't even think the Champions Club does PSLs, but I could be wrong.
Posted on August 24, 2010 at 11:24 AM by twinswschamps2010
I love the club level seats, I sat there for a while during the Gopher's game. I think they're the perfect height above the field - not too high, not too low, and close to the action. If I ever have a lot more money than I do now, I might try to get season tickets on the club level. :-) Question for those that know: Are the wheelchair seats available for season tickets? Thanks in advance.
Posted on August 24, 2010 at 1:48 PM by StatFreak101 (Erik)
Erik: Absolutely you can get season tickets for a WC section. Rick: There is no food included in the LC. I did, however, find that the Killebrew root beer was 50 cents less from the 573 bar than at a concession stand. Thought that was interesting, maybe a hat tip to The Killer... RE: PSLs They were 1K/seat for Sections A, B, Q, & R. Legends Club Sections C-P were 2K/seat. Remember they are fully transferable. Meaning right now you are likely to get a healthy premium should you decide to sell them (especially if you have good LC seats). I love my LC seats in section B! (btw - there is a pair for sale on TCT for 9/8) When I went to my first game, preseason vs St Louis, I felt disconnected from the "common folk" in the lower level. Now after 10+ games I wouldn't EVER want to fight the main concourse every game. It's fun to be lower for a game or two, but I like these things the best. 1. Heated, ac, dry and uncrowded concourse My one negative... it seems like the bathrooms were not well planned. While the atriums are very nice they should have used some of that square footage for the bathrooms. The one right behind my seats has 3 urinals. Seriously! They could have made it twice the size and there would still be a line. What do you think the odd are of moving down a few sections for season ticket holders say 20 game packs? I'm currently in sec 326 and would like to say move to say 323 or 324 row 6 or lower. Also wonder how difficul it would be to get down to sec below that say sec 223 or 224? Anybody else bugged by the wire when sitting in that section that runs from the netting behind home plate? Eliminating the cables holding up the net would require substantial posts to hold it up. I'd hate to be seated behind one of the posts. Max, I somehow thought that you would just sell the PSL back to the Twins and they would then just re-sell it to a new ticket holder. I would think that if someone does want to renew, exisitng ticket holders in that area would get first chance to move to a better location and that someone that just purchased a new PSL would have to start in the worst location and slowly move to a better location over the years. Kind of out of the blue -but now that the first full season at our new park is almost a reality what changes do you think the Twins organization should ponder to enhance or fix any problems there might be with our new park? I think I read a while back that Gardy had said the team, players and himself would assess the issues if any after the season was over. But I was thinking we could share thoughts here if anybody had any thoughts. One of my thoughts was the Team should lower the right field fence starting at about the 365 mark towards centerfield from 23 to 15 feet to so more well hit balls can go out. It is my understanding that the PSL is transferable. It stays with the seats. A STH can name his/her own price as well as their own buyer. I also believe that the Legends Club is 100% sold out. Yes, the LC PSL can be sold/transferred - you pay the Twins a $200 or $250 (forget which) transfer fee. There is one PSL per seat. An LC STH can't "improve" seats without buying a license from someone else. The only way PSLs/LC seats will be available from the Twins, is if an existing LC member fails to purchase season tickets for a particular season. In that case, the PSLs revert to the Twins and become available for sale and the STH gets nada. I don't know if the LC is completely sold out, but I suspect if there is anything left, they are in the top and/or WC rows. Forgot to mention - I have seats in LC and HPB, with my LC (section G) seats almost directly above the HBP. Although the lower level seats are closer to the field, I enjoy the perspective from the LC seats better (and I didn't think I would). Like many, I bought LC seats to "lock in" a seat location before the relocation process to ensure I had good seats - I think the $5 per seat premium is well worth it (assuming the PSL is a sunk cost), for reasons others have posted. I had originally planned to sell the LC seats if I got good HPB seats, but now I plan to keep the LC seats, and, if I need to drop seats, will drop the HPB seats instead. I'm not normally a big club level fan, but the Twins did it right with the LC. And I do think they underpriced the PSLs, but a little late to do anything about that. minn55441 - in case it isn't clear, there is one PSL per specific seat. You "own" the rights to that seat and can do what you want with it, unlike "regular" seats. Conversely, unlike regular seats, there is no seat upgrade or relocation process for LC seats. Ben, I'd leave it up to Butera. It's not like Tolbert has had any at bats since the recall. I get why it was done, but hindsight, I would have left it up to Butera. 100 transfer fee per transaction, not per seat, goes to the Twins, who facilitate the transfer. They sold out shortly after the season started (don't know about wheelchair) Another aspect to LC that I think may be under-recognized is that the last three or four rows have overhang protection, but you don't feel like you're in a cave like you do in the lower level. Seat pitching isn't great, as unfortunately I have the same issue as others have reported in various locations with a blocked view when a big person sits in front of me. I'm a typical 5'10" height. When a small person sits in front of me, it's a non-issue. It is, though, a slight disappointment considering the added expense of PSL and per seat costs. TK I agree with you on the Tolbert pinch-hitting situation last night. Butera smoked a ball that was caught for the out a couple innings earlier. I'm not a huge fan, but I trust him more than Tolbert in that situation. Starting yesterday, certain seats were turned red to form a Target bullseye which covers all seating sections along on the third base line roughly the width of the visitors dugout. I would assume it is temporary because it doesn't look very good, but I thought I would pass this on. Rick, I emailed you a picture I took with my phone. It's not very good, but it shows what I am describing.
Posted on August 25, 2010 at 10:35 AM by The Rational Actor
Here it is:
It does look pretty terrible... Posted on August 25, 2010 at 10:46 AM by Rick 29 I mean the actual bullseye looks terrible (not commenting on the quality of the photo -- thanks for sending it, Rational). Let's hope it's just there for a commercial shoot or something. Posted on August 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM by Rick 30 Apparently Target is hosting a national convention downtown, so this is probably why they've done that to OUR field. A new online article on TF just posted today on Baseball Prospectus. You need a subscription to see the end.
Posted on August 25, 2010 at 12:52 PM by JCTwins
RE LC JcTwins comment: Good point. Not only the top few rows but I have noticed in the middle rows where the overhang ends just behind you, there is still protection from rain at least in my experience (it must depend on wind angle) and yet I wasn't even aware of the overhang until it rained and I noticed the rows below were getting wet and it still felt like we were out in the open, which we were I suppose. Only negative I note is that the rails in the front row could be a nuisance for some people. Sitting outside for a lunch break. What a great time for a homestand now. But if we get September weather like I remember last year, it will be great then too. From an official source: It's temporary, for a Target event. Posted on August 25, 2010 at 1:52 PM by Rick 36 Rick, I asked around and that is what I am hearing as well. I think they might be taking a group photo or something. I wonder if the red is there so they know where to sit.
Posted on August 25, 2010 at 2:38 PM by The Rational Actor
Taxpayers duped for Marlin's new ballpark. I don't know how much of this article is true, it probably fabricates some things, anyways its an interesting read.
Posted on August 25, 2010 at 3:20 PM by Jeff
Here are the newest renderings for the A's San Jose ballpark. Click my name for the images.
Posted on August 25, 2010 at 3:23 PM by Jeff
I like the looks of the proposed new stadium for the A's, especially the uniquely shaped footprint and the brick in right field. I'm wondering if the team would have to change their name to the San Jose A's? That Target logo probably looks a lot better from field level. By the way, the renderings for the A's ballpark look pretty nice to me. Hope it gets built. I read the Jeff Passan piece about the Marlin's ballpark financing (it was a Yahoo headline), and was not really surprised or offended. Much of it was the same old "stadiums are swindles" diatribe. All of the whining by Passan about what the Marlins may or may not have been concealing rings a little hollow. These new documents appear to pretty much confirm the Forbes estimations of the Marlins' revenue and operating income (actually, they come in a little less than the estimates). In other words, anyone who bought the line that the Marlins were destitute didn't even bother to do a simple Google search. Of course Loria had to say that kind of crap. It's how the game is played. What's news about that? What's more, it's not the team's fault that the county decided to borrow money to pay for the stadium in very weird and slushy deals which appear to bet on the movement of interests rates and such. Many governmental entities know how to do incredibly stupid things without the help of major league ball clubs. (Makes you kind of appreciate even more the deal that Hennepin County got with the Twins, eh?) Then there is this absurd quote from Neil ("Field of Schemes") deMause: "The stadiums have become part of the business model for teams." The only problem with that quote is that it's been true for about 125 years. Don't get me wrong: The process by which most new stadiums get built amounts to teams extorting governmental entities. But this is nothing new. And it ignores the fact that governments do it because, deep down inside, we -- the public -- really want them to. In all, I thought it was pretty much a non-story. (By the way, the more interesting baseball story today (also from the Yahoo headlines) was the dude who got his parachute caught on the flagpole in Arlington yesterday...) Posted on August 25, 2010 at 7:36 PM by Rick 43 Next, those A's ballpark drawing are pretty cool. I really liked the other Cisco Field, so I'm disappointed that it won't get built. But keep in mind that this probably won't get built either. The A's are in that period when they have some ideas but no deal. The drawings they release now are intended to excite people, not reflect what the park will ultimately look like. Once there is a deal, they'll go back to the drawing board, and the finished product will probably bear little resemblance to what we saw today. Remember what Target Field looked like at the same point in the process?
Posted on August 25, 2010 at 7:44 PM by Rick 44 robin - thanks for the clarification on the PSL transfer fee. That logo on the seats is both horrible and cheesy - it sure better be temporary. The A's plans look nice, but it'll never get built. I don't know if Charley Walters is hinting at something here but he states, "Selig is a former owner of the Brewers. It wouldn't be inappropriate for the Twins to erect statues of late Twins owners Carl Pohlad and Calvin Griffith outside Target Field." From the Pioneer Press I bought the new Target Field book by Steve Berg. It was $40+tax. Absolutely incredible detail and pictures/drawings. I've only perused the photos/concepts etc so far and am blown away. This is a must for any ballpark aficionado. 55441: Your exact seat is transferred to any prospective buyer. You can't move around in the upgrade process because there really isn't any once the seats are sold out. So this is good if you start with great seats and maybe not so good if you have mediocre LC seats. The Twins need to seriously consider getting rid of those navy blue tops on the road... Why do the pitchers have such a big love for those jerseys, especially on the road?? At the least, bring back a "Minnesota" blue alternate for the road. I too bought the book and its incredible! Definitely exceeded my expectations. I am going to wait for the prices to drop a bit and buy a few more for some Christmas gifts in November. Hide Facebook box
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