Plaza Particulars (Part 2)
March 10, 2009 1:19 AM
Lost in some of the chatter over the Target Plaza announcement was the (apparent) answer to some long-standing questions about the configuration of the entrance gates there.
From the revised site plan, this is the configuration of Gate 34 Puckett.
The model disagreed with the original site plan as well as the early renderings -- which is understandable. But the configuration is interesting because the team has made a big deal out of saying that this will in effect be the "front door" for the ballpark. Circulation issues have to be at the forefront of their considerations.
I'm not sure whether this design comes from Oslund (who did the plaza design) or HOK (who did the ballpark design) or somewhere else. But it's clear that some thought has gone into it.
As it appears in these renderings, there will be nine (can't be coincidence, right?) swinging gates, four of which, roughly in the center, are covered by a little roof.
The little roof is a surprise, given that nothing like it appears in earlier information. It appears to be mostly ornamental, though it does focus movement a bit. You can easily imagine, for an event which does not require all nine gates, that the covered gates would be favored.
One of the most appealing aspects to this gate has always been that it allows essentially unfettered visibility into the park for people approaching on the plaza.
Imagine taking that walk down from First Avenue, with the ballpark on display in front of you the whole way. The skyway between parking ramps provides its own sort of gateway, and as soon as you pass beneath it, the whole of the ballpark snaps into view. The worst thing to do at that point would be to somehow hinder it.
There may have been a temptation to do something more busy, like what I saw at Comerica. That would have been a mistake. And thought the roof hinders the simplicity a little bit, it's not so much as to take away from what is likely to be a breathtaking view.
The back gates at Comerica park, like everything else, a bit overwrought.
Also of interest is the little bend, and the fact that the orientation of these gates allows for more plaza space outside.
Having walked this plaza, it currently seems quite spacious. But in viewing the new plaza design, it's clear that some of this space will now be taken up by a host of other things.
The topiaries take up less room than the original design's grove of trees (the foundations for which have now been quietly filled in with cement, in case you hadn't noticed), but there's so much going on here that every square inch of extra space will be put to use by some fan.
Some of the early drawings had the row of gates way out where the plaza finally reaches its widest point. This would have been disastrous, and has been averted.
It's important to note that comparing this plaza to the one currently found at the Metrodome isn't very useful. By my (admittedly crude) calculations, the Metrodome plaza is larger, and benefits from a sort of fade-away area which allows its perceived size to be even larger.
Target Plaza has very distinct and unforgiving boundaries, but it serves a different master. Where the Metrodome plaza was built to give fans someplace to hang out before entering the ballpark, Target Plaza is very much a pathway which guides people inside.
Some fans will surely hang out there, but not because they don't want to enter the park (as it is across town). There will be so much more to do inside Target Field, and such a different atmosphere, that the park itself is in some ways its own plaza space. Where the Metrodome has an air-tight barrier between in (bad) and out (good), Target Field has a more porous feel between in (good) and out (bad).
What a change.
The Pole Poll
Voting has concluded on the flag pole location, and it was a decidedly split decision. We even had a serious write-in candidate (a location on the Seventh Street side in front of the Pro shop).
But I have to say that I've been pondering this one for quite some time. I've admitted feeling a little bit disappointed when I originally heard what the team was planning. But that feeling is gone. So up next in our plaza review will be some discussion of how the plaza will get to and meet First Avenue, and why that old Met Stadium souvenir actually may have found it's best possible home up there.
Noah and I stopped down at the park over the weekend to get a look at the Seventh Street facade. Here's a quick glimpse for those living in other places.
Back of scoreboard; facade in context.
Limestone still dominates the Seventh Street walkway from a pedestrian point of view. But brick take over as you move upward -- a concession to cost, no doubt.
Gate 29 Carew
The Carew gate ticket windows have grown a small awning.
The brick has been tinted where the circulation ramp meets the admin building.
These outfield stands will likely remain visible to passersby.
Look at all that blank space. Canvas! (What should go on those walls? A giant schedule perhaps?)
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"You talk about the magic, the aura, but what really makes a stadium is the fans. Concrete doesn't talk back to you. Chairs don't talk back to you. It's the people who are there, day in, day out, that makes the place magic."
– Bernie Williams
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Looking from near the entry doors toward the center, the atrium is just visible at the far right.
Larry DiVito, mowing
This view looks up Fifth Street toward downtown and shows how the LRT tracks sort of snuggle up to the ballpark.
This is what passes for imagination at Miller Park -- they didn't even get the shape right! (Source: LP)
Looking up Seventh Street (click to see what it looked like from the same spot in 1950)
This looks up Fifth Street (LRT train visible in the distance). This bridge is also being partially rebuilt (see next photo).
A Hrbek tribute wall marks the end of the Carew side of the club
Click to see the full-size image.
Here's a closer look at the bullpen area. It's hard to tell for sure, but I think there is still an opening to the concourse right above.
This was billed as a diagram of a super-suite. I'm not quite sure just where this (or these) will be located.
You are forgiven for wondering whether architect Tom Oslund is, in fact, a visitor from the future.
The Fifth Street side is pretty busy. There's a small street entrance to the B ramp, then ticket booths and an entrance gate, a rare exterior section not covered in limestone, the wooden screen covering the circulation ramps, the administration building, and finally (just out of view) the interface with Northstar. All of that sits behind the LRT action. How pedestrians will interact with this side of the park is a great mystery to me. You know that Metro Transit won't be letting them cross the tracks anywhere but at either end of the block...
From the roof of the B ramp, you can see just how futile it will be to get a glimpse of the action.
Fencing is going up all along the plaza
Nine spots for hops bats.
LRT throngs after the game
Twins president Dave St. Peter presents his list of fan suggestions to the Ballpark Authority
The entrances are all the way around on the other side.
Walkway entrance from ramp
The Pantheon (with inset of the magic eye)
These are the outside tracks which go under the promenade
What a great sight!
A trailer village has sprung up to the south.
This is what I was working on while my photo was taken (click to see a VERY BIG version).
The mounds have grown seating supports
I don't exactly know what this is. A first-aid station? Concession office?
Here's one big problem with a retractable roof: completely terrible seating in left. These scant few seats would have been tucked under the track. No sunshine, no open concourse, it was a terribly kludgy idea. With some hindsight, it's very clear that adding a retractable roof on this small site would have required compromises which would have just been too extensive to tolerate. Without it, the design was free to grow into something much more memorable.
A photo taken as my meter ran out.
BPM - Ballpark Magic
BRT - Bus Rapid Transit
DSP - Dave St. Peter
FSE - Full Season Equivalent
FYS - Fake Yankee Stadium (see also: NYS)
HERC - Hennepin Energy Resource Company (aka the Garbage Burner)
HPB - Home Plate Box
HRP - Home Run Porch
LC - Legends Club
LRT - Light Rail Transit
MBA - Minnesota Ballpark Authority (will own Target Field)
MOA - Mall of America
MSFC - Minnesota Sports Facilities Commission (owns the Metrodome)
NYS - New Yankee Stadium
SRO - Standing Room Only
STH - Season Ticket Holder
TCFBS - TCF Bank Stadium
TF - Target Field
Selected Bibliography - Analysis
First Edition (1992)
Second Edition (2006)
Selected Bibliography - Surveys
Second Edition (1987)
Not a "Third Edition" exactly,
but it replaced the above title
(2000, large coffee table)
Original edition (2000, round)
Revised edition (2006, round)
(2001, medium coffee table)
(2002, small coffee table)
(2003, medium coffee table)
(2004, very large coffee table)
(2006, very large coffee table)
Combines the previous two titles
(2007, medium coffee table)
Selected Bibliography - Nostalgia
Book and six ballpark miniatures