Plaza Particulars (Part 2)
March 10, 2009 1:19 AM
Lost in some of the chatter over the Target Plaza announcement was the (apparent) answer to some long-standing questions about the configuration of the entrance gates there.
From the revised site plan, this is the configuration of Gate 34 Puckett.
The model disagreed with the original site plan as well as the early renderings -- which is understandable. But the configuration is interesting because the team has made a big deal out of saying that this will in effect be the "front door" for the ballpark. Circulation issues have to be at the forefront of their considerations.
I'm not sure whether this design comes from Oslund (who did the plaza design) or HOK (who did the ballpark design) or somewhere else. But it's clear that some thought has gone into it.
As it appears in these renderings, there will be nine (can't be coincidence, right?) swinging gates, four of which, roughly in the center, are covered by a little roof.
The little roof is a surprise, given that nothing like it appears in earlier information. It appears to be mostly ornamental, though it does focus movement a bit. You can easily imagine, for an event which does not require all nine gates, that the covered gates would be favored.
One of the most appealing aspects to this gate has always been that it allows essentially unfettered visibility into the park for people approaching on the plaza.
Imagine taking that walk down from First Avenue, with the ballpark on display in front of you the whole way. The skyway between parking ramps provides its own sort of gateway, and as soon as you pass beneath it, the whole of the ballpark snaps into view. The worst thing to do at that point would be to somehow hinder it.
There may have been a temptation to do something more busy, like what I saw at Comerica. That would have been a mistake. And thought the roof hinders the simplicity a little bit, it's not so much as to take away from what is likely to be a breathtaking view.
The back gates at Comerica park, like everything else, a bit overwrought.
Also of interest is the little bend, and the fact that the orientation of these gates allows for more plaza space outside.
Having walked this plaza, it currently seems quite spacious. But in viewing the new plaza design, it's clear that some of this space will now be taken up by a host of other things.
The topiaries take up less room than the original design's grove of trees (the foundations for which have now been quietly filled in with cement, in case you hadn't noticed), but there's so much going on here that every square inch of extra space will be put to use by some fan.
Some of the early drawings had the row of gates way out where the plaza finally reaches its widest point. This would have been disastrous, and has been averted.
It's important to note that comparing this plaza to the one currently found at the Metrodome isn't very useful. By my (admittedly crude) calculations, the Metrodome plaza is larger, and benefits from a sort of fade-away area which allows its perceived size to be even larger.
Target Plaza has very distinct and unforgiving boundaries, but it serves a different master. Where the Metrodome plaza was built to give fans someplace to hang out before entering the ballpark, Target Plaza is very much a pathway which guides people inside.
Some fans will surely hang out there, but not because they don't want to enter the park (as it is across town). There will be so much more to do inside Target Field, and such a different atmosphere, that the park itself is in some ways its own plaza space. Where the Metrodome has an air-tight barrier between in (bad) and out (good), Target Field has a more porous feel between in (good) and out (bad).
What a change.
The Pole Poll
Voting has concluded on the flag pole location, and it was a decidedly split decision. We even had a serious write-in candidate (a location on the Seventh Street side in front of the Pro shop).
But I have to say that I've been pondering this one for quite some time. I've admitted feeling a little bit disappointed when I originally heard what the team was planning. But that feeling is gone. So up next in our plaza review will be some discussion of how the plaza will get to and meet First Avenue, and why that old Met Stadium souvenir actually may have found it's best possible home up there.
Noah and I stopped down at the park over the weekend to get a look at the Seventh Street facade. Here's a quick glimpse for those living in other places.
Back of scoreboard; facade in context.
Limestone still dominates the Seventh Street walkway from a pedestrian point of view. But brick take over as you move upward -- a concession to cost, no doubt.
Gate 29 Carew
The Carew gate ticket windows have grown a small awning.
The brick has been tinted where the circulation ramp meets the admin building.
These outfield stands will likely remain visible to passersby.
Look at all that blank space. Canvas! (What should go on those walls? A giant schedule perhaps?)
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"You talk about the magic, the aura, but what really makes a stadium is the fans. Concrete doesn't talk back to you. Chairs don't talk back to you. It's the people who are there, day in, day out, that makes the place magic."
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The big glove will go on that circle. Note the gap between the plaza and the ramp. That's 394 you can see through there.
This is NOT Twins Territory anymore
What has been actually built so far is only a tiny subset of this vision.
This view looks through the opening in the fence where the crosswalk will be.
2014 Twins ASG promo bat.
Walkway construction is progressing
This is the actual entrance for Gate 6. Notice how close the seating will be. The back row of the lower deck will be mere inches beyond that inner support post.
From the roof of the Minnekahda building (courtesy Bruce Lambrecht).
Reasonable (if not overly generous) leg room
Up close, this is what you'll see as you walk along.
Looking the other direction, again from Ford Centre, you can see what's going on over the tracks. This will be a public promenade.
There's the opening through which the groundskeeping equipment will emerge (and disappear).
Franchise history before Minnesota. (Click to enlarge.)
Champion's Club details (click to enlarge)
Peering through Gate 29 -- lots to see
Winter approaches. But one day baseballs will fly where now there are cranes.
The LRT station, sitting in a brand new urban canyon, takes shape.
Section 117, Row WC (applies to all the back rows under the Legends Club seating)
Red is old Yankee Stadium. This diagram comes from FieldOfSchemes.com
A slightly different elevation drawing, again viewed from Fifth Street, with some labels. (Click to enlarge.)
Here's one big problem with a retractable roof: completely terrible seating in left. These scant few seats would have been tucked under the track. No sunshine, no open concourse, it was a terribly kludgy idea. With some hindsight, it's very clear that adding a retractable roof on this small site would have required compromises which would have just been too extensive to tolerate. Without it, the design was free to grow into something much more memorable.
Click on this photo to see what it looked like on this spot 101 years ago (I'm not kidding)
A true fan out in the bleachers
The art panels on the Fifth Street facade as viewed from the top of the Minnekahda building.
I'm too short to see over that wall. How about a little platform or something?
The Ballpark Authority at work (Source: RP)
(Click to enlarge)
Snow-blowing the field
Just some of the lumiaries who turned out for the unveiling (Terry is clearly thinking about Sidney Ponson).
The mounds have grown seating supports
A closer look at the grid on the Pro Shop.
I saw it at another park...
BPM - Ballpark Magic
BRT - Bus Rapid Transit
DSP - Dave St. Peter
FSE - Full Season Equivalent
FYS - Fake Yankee Stadium (see also: NYS)
HERC - Hennepin Energy Resource Company (aka the Garbage Burner)
HPB - Home Plate Box
HRP - Home Run Porch
LC - Legends Club
LRT - Light Rail Transit
MBA - Minnesota Ballpark Authority (will own Target Field)
MOA - Mall of America
MSFC - Minnesota Sports Facilities Commission (owns the Metrodome)
NYS - New Yankee Stadium
SRO - Standing Room Only
STH - Season Ticket Holder
TCFBS - TCF Bank Stadium
TF - Target Field
Selected Bibliography - Analysis
First Edition (1992)
Second Edition (2006)
Selected Bibliography - Surveys
Second Edition (1987)
Not a "Third Edition" exactly,
but it replaced the above title
(2000, large coffee table)
Original edition (2000, round)
Revised edition (2006, round)
(2001, medium coffee table)
(2002, small coffee table)
(2003, medium coffee table)
(2004, very large coffee table)
(2006, very large coffee table)
Combines the previous two titles
(2007, medium coffee table)
Selected Bibliography - Nostalgia
Book and six ballpark miniatures