August 6, 2010 12:55 AM
"That was probably the perfect commercial advertisement, reason to have a new ballpark. There's no better reason than that. I know it works both ways, but to lose a game in a pennant situation like that because of the roof totally indicates why there's a crying need for a new ballpark in this area, regardless of where they put it.
"It just needs to be a real baseball field, where if you were to lose the pennant by one game and look back on a game like that because the roof got in the way, you'd be very upset. There's no better reason than that."
That's Joe Maddon talking about today's deus ex machina win for the Twins.
You know, I'm glad they got the win, but I hate dome ball -- win or lose. It just ain't real baseball. The day will come when we look back at the Era of the Roof-N-Turf with a disdain only slightly less than we have already for the Era of the Supplement.
Come to think of it, the latter is a collection of the sins of individuals, abetted by an indifferent system. The former was systemic from the start -- one great big bad decision that has affected thousands of games and millions of stats. Maybe that disdain equation should be reversed.
Speaking of roofs, I finally got a chance to see the Budweiser roof deck in person last Friday. I actually went up there twice: once before the game, and once during. It's quite a scene.
By now it's common knowledge that the view of the game isn't exactly the best one in the ballpark, but I was surprised by how much you actually can see.
The infield was visible from all but one seat:
Well, the infield was visible until there were people there, of course.
Believe it or not, the limited visibility is in no way a disadvantage. It just means that the roof deck isn't the place to be if you want to watch the game closely. It's a place to hang out, keep track of the game, and just have fun with a bunch of friends.
It's important to understand that this is by design, and the Twins are to be commended for how they've marketed this particular amenity. Expectations have been properly set, and the people using it seemed pretty happy with what they were getting.
Here's a quick look at the bar area, and some of the other details.
The fire pit is situated so that you basically have no hope of seeing the game directly (and the closest monitors are over by the bar, not exactly useful from here).
But it does give off a fair amount of heat, meaning it will serve well in September.
One thing I noticed is that, even though I believe it was sold out, it didn't feel the least bit crowded. There was plenty of space for everyone to stretch out, find a niche, and do their thing.
There are three rows of seats, but my impression was that if you have more than a passing interest in the game, only the first row will be sufficient. The rest are best left for those who want to just hang out.
Greatest spot in the city for cooking up some hot dogs. And would you kill for that grill?
Of the players up there, only Bert does not have a gate with his number (28) on it at Target Field. You know, there is that door underneath the skywalk on Seventh Street between gates 14 and 29...
The design cleverly concentrates a large portion of the standing room at the corner closest to the field. Predictably, that's where everyone wanted to be, though after the first row of people standing, the field is more of a concept than something you can actually detect.
But who's complaining? (Nobody on this particular night.)
Like the rest of Target Field, all things considered, the view is alright up there.
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"You talk about the magic, the aura, but what really makes a stadium is the fans. Concrete doesn't talk back to you. Chairs don't talk back to you. It's the people who are there, day in, day out, that makes the place magic."
– Bernie Williams
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Stairs down to the sidewalk from the skywalk over Seventh
Photo by Tyler Wycoff
The right field overhang as seen from Seventh Street (with dude)
The plaza as seen from the B ramp.
I love these upper neighborhoods.
This view looks up Fifth Street toward downtown and shows how the LRT tracks sort of snuggle up to the ballpark.
The admin building (note TF logo on banner)
These are the outside tracks which go under the promenade
Party deck down the right field line
Signage for the concession stand which is available from the plaza (plaques are up on the fencing)
Note that the sign in the background will NOT be changed because "Twins Way" doesn't extend this far north.
Not sure what those supports are for -- probably stadia.
The images on that wall appear to be of great Twins moments in history.
Larry DiVito, mowing
Those two empty seats in the front row are where we started the game.
Click to enlarge greatly.
The proposed wooden screen covering the circulation ramp on Fifth Street (at left is the equivalent screen on Seventh Street).
Opening Day 2008 (By Currier & Ives)
Not from Moose's tour, but it's an image you need to see. (Click to enlarge greatly.)
The reverse angle shows that the signage will only partially obscure views from the top of the ramp. The wall is pretty high up there, so you'll need something to stand on, but it appears that this is one of the so-called "knotholes".
This is as close as I could get to a pedestrian-eye view of Seventh Street (looking west away from downtown). It's inviting, not imposing, and remarkably dignified.
BPM - Ballpark Magic
BRT - Bus Rapid Transit
DSP - Dave St. Peter
FSE - Full Season Equivalent
FYS - Fake Yankee Stadium (see also: NYS)
HERC - Hennepin Energy Resource Company (aka the Garbage Burner)
HPB - Home Plate Box
HRP - Home Run Porch
LC - Legends Club
LRT - Light Rail Transit
MBA - Minnesota Ballpark Authority (will own Target Field)
MOA - Mall of America
MSFC - Minnesota Sports Facilities Commission (owns the Metrodome)
NYS - New Yankee Stadium
SRO - Standing Room Only
STH - Season Ticket Holder
TCFBS - TCF Bank Stadium
TF - Target Field
Selected Bibliography - Analysis
First Edition (1992)
Second Edition (2006)
Selected Bibliography - Surveys
Second Edition (1987)
Not a "Third Edition" exactly,
but it replaced the above title
(2000, large coffee table)
Original edition (2000, round)
Revised edition (2006, round)
(2001, medium coffee table)
(2002, small coffee table)
(2003, medium coffee table)
(2004, very large coffee table)
(2006, very large coffee table)
Combines the previous two titles
(2007, medium coffee table)
Selected Bibliography - Nostalgia
Book and six ballpark miniatures