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September 21, 2009 1:22 PM

Two great games this weekend, and I was lucky enough to be at both of them (and fortunate enough to be napping on the couch through the third of the series).

Friday's game got off to a very weird start as two pitches in the first at-bat were fouled into our section. The first, regrettably, hit a woman sitting in the middle of a group of disabled fans. She was not able to get out of the way and medical help had to be called.

The second, however, came right toward us, eventually hooking directly into the waiting glove of the young woman standing next to Victoria. I congratulated her and told her that Dan Gladden was probably talking about her on the radio because he always appreciates it when a fan is prepared for such a moment. My cell phone captured her, still grinning, during the 7th-inning stretch:


Those front row seats in the upper deck are sweet if you're tall enough, but murder if you're not. I am just barely tall enough, but Vic had to constantly shift in her seat to see the plate between the bars of the railing. It made me wonder just how it is that no one has ever solved this all-too-common stadium problem (which will likely be found at Target Field as well).

I also got a chance to see part of the game from the Terrace Suite out in the right field corner. Those large suites, despite being quite obvious, are something of a well-kept secret. They're more affordable than you may imagine, and feature free beer and snacks throughout the game. It was one of the nooks and crannies of the Metrodome that I'm glad I got a chance to see. (Special thanks to my host!)

Oh Yeah, New Baseball Venue Being Built Across Town

I took a couple hundred pictures out at Target Field last week in service to a specific article that I'm still working on. Since it's taking longer than expected (and I've got a few other things brewing), here are a few quick shots that were not specifically for the feature I'm working on.


Branding on the plaza


The mounds have grown seating supports


T is for Twins


Mystery door on Seventh Street...


Locations for ticket machines near the Hrbek outdoor plaza


Artist at work


The electronic sign has been corrected (and never forget that ballpark is one word, not two)


This is what will count as a knothole (actually, it's a gated entrance)


Interesting Story

I heard an interesting story last week from someone who bumped into the Metrodome organist, Sue Nelson.

You may recall that the Twins plan to move the current organ from the Dome to Target Field. But Sue told my source that they offered her a new organ, which she turned down. For one thing, she's quite happy with the current instrument, which hails from the 1970s. (I'm with her on that. Nothing wrong with it whatsoever from a fan's standpoint.)

But she also was not interested in dealing with the potential for a sponsorship deal for a new instrument. Though it was just an idea, apparently the Twins considered selling the naming rights if they acquired a new organ.

I actually think that's pretty creative, but Sue must have thought it might intrude on what she does, and you have to give the team credit for respecting her wishes. It shows that they're being creative -- but not heartless -- about generating new revenue. And they value their employees' opinions.

Get Your Tickets!

By the way, in case you missed it, there have been continued suggestions that we start our very own ticket exchange club here at BallparkMagic.

I never really thought much about it until I was the victim of highway robbery at StubHub last week. My fees and shipping charges were roughly equivalent to the price of one of the tickets (in other words, 1/3 of my total cost was fees and shipping). And the seller also had to pay a steep fee which probably meant a large loss on the sale. Worse, I couldn't see any of those additional costs until I'd entered all of my personal and payment information. (I've always believed that wherever you find "convenience" charges, you will also find anti-competitive, or at least sneaky, business practices.)

Also, I was dismayed to receive an email directly from the Twins which referenced my purchase. Just how would the Twins know that I purchased tickets on the secondary market? Turns out, it's all a big syndicate of sorts. Though StubHub isn't the evil Ticketmaster (it's owned by the nominally less evil Ebay), I'm reminded again that Pearl Jam was right (but I don't have to tell you that).

So now I've pondered the prospect of a ticket exchange at some length, and put together a proposal of sorts. For more info, drop me a line: trade at ballpark magic d0t c0m (that's code, by the way, which YOU should be able to convert into a real email address, but the spam bots probably cannot).

Now let's turn our energies toward the south side of Chicago!


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Bravo, Rick!

Posted on September 21, 2009 at 2:56 PM by DeePee Highlight this comment 1

I'm feelin' a ah ah ah....CA CHEW!!! Yep, it's all that dust from the brooms comin' out for the sweep on the south side....GO TWINS!!


Posted on September 21, 2009 at 3:08 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 2

What's the "MAGIC NUMBER: 17" business?

Isn't magic number Twins' wins or Tigers' losses? Aren't there only 14 games left?

I'm confused...

Posted on September 21, 2009 at 3:27 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 3

Magic number = 163 - (our wins + opponents losses)


Posted on September 21, 2009 at 3:33 PM by Rick 4

Is the art on 5th St. only going to cover the lower part of the dark brick? (Just below the scaffolding in the pic above.)

Posted on September 21, 2009 at 3:34 PM by Lafferty Highlight this comment 5

Or, if you are the Tigers:


Posted on September 21, 2009 at 3:34 PM by Rick 6

The art covers the indented portion only. It will be two low, wide rectangles of tiles.

Posted on September 21, 2009 at 3:35 PM by Rick 7

ironic you reference pearl jam the day their new album is released exclusively at target...

Posted on September 21, 2009 at 3:55 PM by annoyingcustomer Highlight this comment 8

Has it ever been suggested by Target (or others) to place some sort of large "target" in the outfield? Out of all the companies that have naming rights for a stadium, their Target symbol is easily the most fitting.

Put it above the right field stands, instead of whatever generic advertising they will end up putting on the trapezoid billboard. It doesn't have to be giant. Make it into some sort of contest like Big Mac Land. Fun for all!

Posted on September 21, 2009 at 3:59 PM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 9

Glad to see Pearl Jam has signed an exclusive deal with Target instead of Wal-Mart. The only time I have set foot in a Wal-Mart in the last ten years was when the Eagles forced me to buy their last CD there. These exclusive deals seem to be the fad for the foreseeable future.

Posted on September 21, 2009 at 4:15 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 10

the countdown number should be one less then it is. unless your counting April 12th as one day left instead of zero

Posted on September 21, 2009 at 4:19 PM by sam Highlight this comment 11

I sat in the front row of the upper deck once for an NCAA basketball game at the Dumpty. Tremendous leg room, and in all of the basketball games I've seen at the Dumpty, those seats are absolutely the best. I was right in Sec 219. Perfect.
StubHub is off my radar. If they have ungodly fees like that, I'd be better off going to eBay or something like that (incidentally, I got tickets for the 10/4 game via eBay).

Posted on September 21, 2009 at 4:38 PM by luke Highlight this comment 12

Speaking of the Dome and basketball, no NCAA's until at least 2014. For those wishing for the Vikings to get a new outdoor stadium this is why we need a new dome for all these events that need large capacities. If we can't, then forget about any NCAA tournament game ever being played in this state again(The X and TC are apparently booked until infinity).

Posted on September 21, 2009 at 4:51 PM by Pikachu Highlight this comment 13

yeah, that sounds about right, and that's not even the Final Four. I doubt we're ever getting the Final Four again - mainly because of nicer, bigger stadiums such as those in Glendale, Detroit, Houston, Dallas (the "Monster") and Indy (whom the NCAA has locked in Final Fours every five years), incidentally, with the exception of New Orleans, there's your next Final Four hosts.

Compared to those, our Metrodome is rather insignificant. It'd be nice to have some NCAA games at the X or TC (the X is horrible for basketball BTW), but I think the NCAA feels they can sell lots of tickets here. I went to a tournament game in 2000 I think, when Iowa State was here - I think they brought the whole damn town of

Posted on September 21, 2009 at 5:14 PM by luke Highlight this comment 14


How can you say the X is a terrible place for hoops when very few games have been played there? There have been rumors of a Kansas-Gophers game being held at the X(but alas, it's likely going to the barn). The X and TC should be in the running for future NCAA games(early rounds), but where do you put the Final Five and the state basketball tourneys?

Posted on September 21, 2009 at 5:32 PM by Pikachu Highlight this comment 15

I've seen basketball games at the X Pikachu. I said that out of experience. TC is a much better venue for basketball because TC was designed for basketball.

If any are interested, click my name for future Final Four sites thru 2016. I forgot about Atlanta. They're getting one in the near future as well.

Posted on September 21, 2009 at 5:46 PM by luke Highlight this comment 16

I saw a show at First Ave. on Saturday Night so I got to spend some time walking around the area after the show wondering what will change when club goers and baseball fans converge. The one thing I noticed is the lack of real sports bars. Yes there are a few but the current atmosphere just doesn't feel anything like Wrigleyville. I'm sure much of that will change. I really can see no negative effect on the area as a result of the new crowed. Of course, First Avenue can't really lose many more stores so any growth should be good.

Oh one more thing. I understand the area has had issues with crime, but the police presence is off the charts. The Minneapolis Cops in cars were constantly flashing their lights to run through intersections police on horses paraded down the sidewalks. This needs to get scaled back. I got the feeling they wanted crime to happen so they had something to do.

Anyways...that's my two cents.

Posted on September 21, 2009 at 8:19 PM by Andrew Highlight this comment 17

Anyone making the trek to Ryan Field to see the Gophers this weekend? Now after being in TCFBS for a game (Air Force) it will be interesting to see how the other half lives. Aside from the Dome and TC, isn't it nice to say that we have it great when it comes to stadiums! We've got the new, the future, and a great history of the past (Williams Arena is the 2nd oldest arena in D-1 basketball).

Where's flyover country now?

Posted on September 21, 2009 at 8:53 PM by Eric Highlight this comment 18

This should not come as a big surprise to anyone, but the Twins have signed a 7-year deal with Pepsi.

This from the Sports Business Journal:

PEPSI, PLEASE: The Minnesota Twins have awarded Pepsi pouring rights at Target Field, their new ballpark opening in April.

The Twins have not officially announced the deal, but the soda maker’s dispensers were visible during a recent hard-hat tour of the $412 million downtown facility. The team has had a long-term promotional relationship with Pepsi at the Metrodome, a building that serves Coca-Cola products.

The contract is for seven years, according to an industry source. Financial terms were not available.

Pepsi now has its taps operating at 17 of MLB’s 30 parks, according to SportsBusiness Journal research.

Posted on September 21, 2009 at 8:53 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 19

I'm totally fine with that (actually desire it), as long is there a clause in that agreement that allows them to have coke on hand for the Jack.

Posted on September 21, 2009 at 9:06 PM by Camden Highlight this comment 20

Thank You so much rick for this short update! I was having anxiety issues the past few days due to the long hiatus of updates. This website is almost a drug to me (straight into the veins!) now that I'm at school in Detroit kitty country!

I love this website a little too much!

Posted on September 21, 2009 at 10:23 PM by MattW Highlight this comment 21

Pepsi? Yuk..... :-P

RE: Magic number. Assuming the following records, Twins 82-80
Detroit 81-81, if it was based on 162, you would end up with a -1 magic number after game 162, and it should be zero for the division winner. It needs to be 163 to be the correct result.

163-(82+81)=0 vs. 162-(82+81)= -1 (wrong)

another example:If the record at game 161 is 81-80 for each team, the result would be 163 -(81+80)= magic number 2 for both teams.If both teams win game 162, there is still a tie at magic number 1, but if one team wins and the other loses game 162, it would result in a record of 82-80 for one team, and 81-81 for the other, and the 82-80 team would rightly have a magic number of zero.

Sorry for the lengthy post, but I thought it might help. I had to test it to make sure I understood why it was 163, because it does seem strange not to use 162 as the number to start the calculation.

Posted on September 21, 2009 at 11:20 PM by Dan Highlight this comment 22

I was afraid of that, I really hoped the Twins would serve coca-cola products at the new yard. Don't really care for pepsi, guess i'll just have to order beer with my 'bulls-eye dog' :)

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 12:42 AM by Jcm-Baseball Highlight this comment 23

wait - people really thought that a team owned by the Pohlads... who own Pepsi Americas, the second largest bottler in the country - would ever consider Coke? Not a chance in hell... I for one am quite happy with that development.

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 12:51 AM by CJ Highlight this comment 24

I am too CJ. I do prefer Pepsi over Coke.
The "Bulls-Eye Dog"...hmmm. Interesting. You might have just given the Twins something to think about JCM.

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 06:54 AM by luke Highlight this comment 25

I'm with Dan...

Pepsi? Yuk..... :-P

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 07:09 AM by David_Mpls Highlight this comment 26


Mountain Dew!!!

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 08:25 AM by Dodgeboy Highlight this comment 27

Dear posters: Despite what you may think NOBODY CARES whether you like Coke or Pepsi better. So stop wasting my time and others with posts like "I HEART MT. DEW" or "CHERRY COKE ROX." It was a simple press release. We read it. Now move on.

p.s. - Kudos to Rick for taking pics of chicks at Twins games and passing them off as "news." You sly dog, you.

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 08:39 AM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 28

My god...I actually agree with TTH. I'm not going to bore you with my beverage of choice and I really don't want to read 25 more posts with everyone's opinion. I believe the thread on beverages happened already on a post Rick did back in the spring or early summer.

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 08:55 AM by Faber College Alum Highlight this comment 29

Great writeup, Rick. Thanks for your continued coverage.

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 09:06 AM by OG Jeff Highlight this comment 30


Posted on September 22, 2009 at 09:53 AM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 31

I saw them testing out the replay board at Target Field a few minutes ago while driving past the park on 94 East. It looked pretty sharp even from that distance.

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 11:26 AM by Jorge Highlight this comment 32

I was not aware that the Pohlads owned a Pepsi bottler. It makes sense that they did it then.

The Twins logo on the scoreboard was lit up this morning as I drove in on 394. Looked pretty nice!

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 12:38 PM by Dan Highlight this comment 33

I have heard from my source that the celebration sign is to be installed the end of next week.

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 1:38 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 34

Via City Pages, a new pic of TF taken from a DC9.

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 4:53 PM by Andy G Highlight this comment 35

I know it's not, but when I first clicked on the pic, it looked like a model of the stadium, superimposed onto the cityscape.
Of course it isnt, because not all the seats are there...

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 5:12 PM by luke Highlight this comment 36

It's a sweet picture, especially if you can see it from a commercial plane...

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 5:58 PM by Deenels Highlight this comment 37

Looks like they have the scoreboard light tower light up tonight on the webcams!

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 8:05 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 38

Actually, I believe the Pohlads just sold PepsiAmericas or whatever it's called. Still, I'm sure there's some loyalty involved. Especially if Pepsi offered more money...

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 8:45 PM by The Legacy Highlight this comment 39

I think the light is coming from the scoreboard itself

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 8:51 PM by BB Highlight this comment 40

That is what I was also thinking BB once I checked out the webcam

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM by Erik Highlight this comment 41

Yep, drove by not long ago. It's the large white panels on both sides of the jumbotron that are lit up.

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 10:04 PM by Elston Gunn Highlight this comment 42

I was just down there to get some photos. New post up in a little while. (It was just the advertising panels on the sides of the video screen that were lit.)

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 10:06 PM by Rick 43

Good win for the Twins tonight- bummed Detroit won but hey...didn't lose any ground!

Checked my mail earlier today and to my surprise I had my POSTSEASON INVOICE sitting there. I got pretty excited just to open it and see that the HR Porch is going to be $65 per ticket. Anyone have thoughts on this? I understand its Postseason and the MLB sets the prices, but $65 for seats that are usually $23 face? Nearly 3x face. Looking forward to anyone's thoughts.

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 10:56 PM by Matt Highlight this comment 44

Is that $65 for the (2 or 3) home games of the ALDS? I thought playoff tickets were sold that way, but I haven't been to a playoff game in a few years either.

Posted on September 22, 2009 at 11:12 PM by James Highlight this comment 45

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The big glove will go on that circle. Note the gap between the plaza and the ramp. That's 394 you can see through there.

Carew atrium menu part 2

A seating bowl comes into focus. Note that the netting has been installed on the foul pole. (Field Box)

This looks up Sixth Street from Hennepin. Just imagine what this will look like during a night game!

I don't know if the back side is also a test for materials, but it could be a hint of how the exposed steel supports will be finished. Or it could just be to hold up the stone.

Lots of self-portraits were taken here after the final out.

Killebrew taught, "Always make your autograph legible, boys."

Wind veil install from across Seventh

Heaters over standing room (the backs of the retired number circles visible above)

Viewed from up Sixth Street, the tip of the canopy looks like the claw of some gigantic crustacean!

Large staircases, a staple of recent Populous (nee HOK) projects, are all over the place.

This was from January 19, 2007, when it looked like wonderful things might never happen here.

This will be a bar/restaurant.

Yep, that's real grass down there, son.

Good seats, but no scoreboard or sky.

The stunning curtains, which skillfully evoke the architecture, keep the atrium from getting too hot in the late afternoon sun, simultaneously hiding the HERC.

Sure would be nice to cover that metal grid with more wooden louvers, eh?

The wall of brands at General Mills headquarters in Golden Valley (Source: RP)

Who Owns What (Click for larger version. Source: Ballpark Authority)

Marquette looking south

Just up the foul line, it looks like the base of the wall in foul territory on the right side.

Sunday afternoon, WFTC-HD 720P

Team pennant. (Click to enlarge.)

Gate 29 "Carew" is at right.

That's some scary-ass scaffolding, if you ask me.

Here you can see the real beauty of the Seventh Street side, and get a solid sense of why the overall design really works. The building's purpose is clearly visible, there are numerous connections from inside to outside, scale is nicely mitigated, the stone is attractively used, materials are pleasantly mixed and truly complementary. It's just a winner in so many ways.

Mary Larson (left), a music teacher from Maple Grove, was a TwinsFest SSB winner and got to sing the anthem before the game.

Believe it or not, the actual outfield wall will be about where this fence is now!

Here's what they do in April at Comerica Park

Staircase view


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BRT - Bus Rapid Transit

DSP - Dave St. Peter

FSE - Full Season Equivalent

FYS - Fake Yankee Stadium (see also: NYS)

HERC - Hennepin Energy Resource Company (aka the Garbage Burner)

HPB - Home Plate Box

HRP - Home Run Porch

LC - Legends Club

LRT - Light Rail Transit

MBA - Minnesota Ballpark Authority (will own Target Field)

MOA - Mall of America

MSFC - Minnesota Sports Facilities Commission (owns the Metrodome)

NYS - New Yankee Stadium

SRO - Standing Room Only

STH - Season Ticket Holder

TCFBS - TCF Bank Stadium

TF - Target Field

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Second Edition (1987)

Not a "Third Edition" exactly,
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