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May 7, 2009 2:42 AM

I had a little unexpected free time today and swung by the ballpark to get a few new photos. I know that others of you did the same today, and I ran into somebody with a camera by Butler Square at about 4:00. Was that you?

Here are a few shots to get things started. More to come tomorrow.


This was actually taken from the top floor of the International Market Square.


This looks up Sixth Street from Hennepin. Just imagine what this will look like during a night game!


Here's the view of the entrance ramp to 394. Looks like they are painting...


Just think: It could look like this!


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thanks for the update. Love the pano at the top of the post.
What it the time line on the a-ramp skywalk? It seems like there has been no progress on that in over month or two.

Brew Crew Brew

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 03:36 AM by pf386 Highlight this comment 1

^sorry about the late night typos above^

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 03:50 AM by pf386 Highlight this comment 2

I clicked on some of your shitty advertising links, just because a felt bad for you. Hope you make $.25 or so.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 03:56 AM by Chris D. Highlight this comment 3

excellent rick! a little lighting atop the year's schedule and that dark corner will look great

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 07:26 AM by yeahklye Highlight this comment 4

I don't mind the 'TC' logo on the wall leading into the center field underpass, but the schedule is a little much, in my opinion. Putting aside the danger of distracting drivers heading into that tunnel, how on earth would anyone be able to read it in a moving car?

How about a mural of Twins greats such as Killebrew, Hrbek, Pucket, Oliva, Herr, etc.?

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 10:24 AM by Fred Highlight this comment 5

The view down sixth street makes me think of how awesome the sound of the crowed echoing down First Avenue will be.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 10:34 AM by Andrew Highlight this comment 6

That will be awesome at night, I can hardly wait. Thanks for the pics.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 10:53 AM by firedog Highlight this comment 7


The big schedule is just a promotional tool, mainly seen by pedestrians going to and coming from games!

(For those too young to remember, back in the day the complete season schedule was painted in gigantic form like that -- actually much bigger -- on the side of the WCCO radio building in downtown Minneapolis. The wall where they did it is no longer visible, and the team has a different radio station, but I still miss it!)

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 10:59 AM by Rick 8

Great pics, Rick! I love the way that schedule looks...or could look.

Kevin in AZ (from Rick's previous thread),

I like your subtle touch of straightforwardness. Frankly, I agree. I've been disgusted for quite some time about all the "advertising" that's sprung up in pro sports; the biggest of which being naming rights to a stadium (to include Target Field). To me it virtually strips any venue of its own character. Not to say that Target Field won't have character, because there will be plenty of that as we talk about daily here, but a name says a lot about a place. I remember growing up with the outfield walls displaying retired numbers and division standings using team banners. Now, it's POWERBALL and an ugly Dodge Ram (or whatever is on the right field baggy). Perhaps I'm too nostalgic but I think there's something to be said for Tiger Stadium, Fenway Park, Jacobs Field, Metropolitan Stadium and the like. Citi Field, Comerica Park, SAFECO Field, U.S. Cellular Field, even Target Field all sound and feel so cold and impersonal, like it's missing character. Whoever mentioned it below in Rick's previous thread questioning the possibility of the overhang in right being called the Pepsi Overhang (or some other ad), I share your disgust. My soapbox is breaking so I'll step down now.

Although, Peter's Wieners is pretty funny......

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 11:16 AM by chuck in ak Highlight this comment 9

Yes Chuck, we come from simpler times. Everything today is corporate and we probably should have seen this coming. For years soccer teams in Europe and Mexico have had corporate sponsorships plastered all over their fields, jerseys and stadium walls...It was only a matter of time.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 11:58 AM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 10

It's probably gonna be Stanley Overhang, they're everywhere in baseball now.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 12:12 PM by MATT Highlight this comment 11

How about Budweiser Hungover Overhang?

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 12:19 PM by Steeks Highlight this comment 12

Miller Park is probably the best application of a corporate name to a field/team.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 1:05 PM by billymayshere Highlight this comment 13


I'd say that Wrigley Field is the best application of a corporate name to a ballpark.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 1:11 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 14

Wrigley Field was named after former Cubs owner William Wrigley. They weren't trying to have a corporate name when they decided this.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 1:28 PM by Lafferty Highlight this comment 15

Great American Ballpark. The name is even better than the park itself.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 1:33 PM by The Legacy Highlight this comment 16

It's actually hard to separate the vanity element from the corporate element in the case of Wrigley Field. William Wrigley owned the ballpark as well as the chewing gum company which also bore his name.

It's likely that he recognized the dual benefit to using that name for his ballpark (without even having to pay anything for the privilege) when it was officially changed in 1926.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 1:45 PM by Rick 17

Rick - I suppose that you could make the arguement that Wm. Wrigley saw the dual benefit of "naming rights" in the '20's, but if you look around at other parks of that vintage (Shibe, Ebbets, Crosley, etc.) naming them after an owner or business man was not out of the ordinary.

Also, I tried to post about my ballpark trip yesterday, but it didn't go through, so here you go - I'll be going with Bob's Baseball Tours (click on my name - tour #3) - btw, does he advertise on Twins games in the Cities too, or just on the Network?

This is the fourth trip of this sort I'll have taken (the other three through Diamond Baseball Tours). They've all been with my (retired school teacher) father, and we've been planning this one (since the three new parks out east would be open by this summer) for quite some time. After this summer, I'll have been to 25 current and former MLB ballparks.


Posted on May 7, 2009 at 2:07 PM by Moose97 Highlight this comment 18


I was wondering if you have heard any rumors about the Twins trying to incorporate the Grain Belt sign into the new ballpark. The comments in the previous section had mentioned it and I figured that if anyone knew it would be you. Thanks!

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 2:29 PM by Wanda Phillips Highlight this comment 19


I'm afraid that the Grain Belt sign is too far gone for anybody to save. As you probably know, various organizations have tried over the years and it gets lit for six months or so before things start to go wrong. Eventually, it's just too expensive to maintain for simple nostalgia reasons.

What's more, the gigantic Budweiser sign going in over the admin building is likely to be the only big beer signage in the ballpark (and it's gonna be pretty big...).

About the only hope would be for Anheuser Busch to buy the Grain Belt brand name (currently owned by August Schell, click my name).

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 2:50 PM by Rick 20

Moose, I admire your enthusiasm to see the parks. I've seen most parks in the US, but will never step foot into one stadium:

1. Comerica Park. The fact that Illitch let Tiger Stadium rot rather than remodeling it or taking care of it the way Fenway has been taken care of is sad. Tiger Stadium was an absolute gem and could've been a historical American monument for the ages...instead, Illitch purposely neglected park maintenance and then extorted the city to "provide security" to the old park. However, many of the artifacts and pieces of the stadium were stolen...It only adds to the awful saga that is Detroit. I will never visit Comerica.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 2:52 PM by OG Jeff Highlight this comment 21

I would rather see the Grain Belt sign fall into the river than see Budweiser buy Schell. It's a great brewery and resurrecting grain belt was a great move. I love the stuff. It's cheap and delicious. In my opinion, nothing is more generic and boring than Bud. It's the McDonalds of beer. (well, maybe Miller. The taco bell of beer.)

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 3:36 PM by DuluthTim Highlight this comment 22

OG Jeff, I agree with you on the tragic loss of Tiger Stadium -- however as a former Detroiter I'm very curious why you put the blame solely on Ilitch for its demise -- the guy has actually done quite a bit for the city, including dumping millions into local charities, not to mention historic building restoration such as the Fox theater? If it's not up to the city/county also to contribute ballpark $$, then we certainly wouldn't be getting such a nice new ballpark here?

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 3:58 PM by mplsgreg Highlight this comment 23

Hey Moose what are your thoughts on these organized ballpark tours? Is it mostly elderly retirees (just my initial impressions from the photo galleries)? Do you end up with nosebleed seats? I had to laugh I clicked over to Bob's site and he said that he gets the best available seats for each game. Lower level for places like PNC Park and whatever he can get at new Yankee Stadium. This made me smile as the "best available seats" at NYS is the $2625 Legends Club seats for every single game. They can't even sell them for the BOS/NYY games.

BTW: How does the travel work via bus? Lots of overnighters? Not sure I understand/agree with the logic of staying in 1 hotel for 5 consecutive nights while in the NY/NJ/DE/PA/MD area. How much time is allowed for sightseeing in each city before/after the games?

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 4:01 PM by Max Highlight this comment 24

Going back to Wrigley, corporatism, and beer, Major League Baseball has long frowned heavily on corporately named stadiums right up until the not-so-distant past. If anyone's ever wondered why Anheuser-Busch brews both Bud and Busch, it's because once the Cardinal's became the sole tenant of Sportsman Park, the Busch family tried to rename it "Budweiser Stadium". The league said they couldn't name a park after a product, so they named it Busch stadium, and old man Busch immediately told his brew people to create a new beer and market it as "Busch". That subversive mother...

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 4:11 PM by The Legacy Highlight this comment 25


You're right - and I agree with your points. I wasn't sure how much to rant about the situation surrounding Tiger Stadium. The city is definitely complicit in the problems around the stadium, if not more so that Illitch. I guess my problem with Illitch is that while there were several well-thought plans presented to the Tigers and lawmakers to renovate the stadium (add luxury boxes, etc), those plans were given 2 minutes of lip service and passed over. I think Illitch and Co. premeditated the move (mainly because Tiger Stadium's maintenance was ignored and earmarked money for it's upkeep was not spent) so a stadium conversation could come to fruition. The Illitch family has done a lot of good things in Detroit, and doesn't deserve the blame entirely. I could go on about the corruption and racism of Detroit city politicians all day...

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 4:13 PM by OG Jeff Highlight this comment 26

Detroit has to be in the Top 5 Most Depressing American Cities followed closely by Gary,IN, Newark,NJ, East St. Louis,MO et cetera...

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 4:17 PM by Max Highlight this comment 27

Max - my take (since I'm going back for my fourth trip) is that I enjoy the heck out of 'em! Here's how they work (obviously, this is all Diamond Baseball Tours related, as my Bob's trip will be in July):

Best available seats: I've only sat in the upperdeck twice - Dodger Stadium and AT&T Park. Even at Old Yankee Stadium we had lower deck/bowl seats. I think they mean best available group seats. I'm not expecting seats behind home plate (especially at Citi and NYS), but I'm not expecting to sit in the worst seats either. There are places out there (there's a place out there called Big League Tours) that offer better seats, but they are twice as expensive as well.

Type of people that travel: It's a mix. I'm 33 - will be 34 at the time of travel, and there will be several in that age bracket. There will likely be a few kids (elementry school age), and some older. There will likely be some father son combos, but it's not all elderly folks.

Travel: There ais NO overnight travel! Every night is spent in a hotel. Here's a sample from a previous trip. You are responsable for getting yourself to the trip's starting location (I'm going to use my West Coast Trip, so Las Vegas). From there, you leave early (usually 8 or 9 am) for San Diego for a ballgame. Typically, you will arive a couple hours early, depending on traffic, to wander around. After the game, you load and drive about an hour to the hotel. We then drove an hour to LA, and had a tour of downtown LA prior to our Dodgers (afternoon) game. Then a bus trip north to our hotel just south of Oakland. Next morning, we spent time in Jack London Square, then the A's game. Back to the hotel, and the next day was a free day in San Francisco. Giants game that night, and back to the hotel. Bus back south to LA, and an Angels game (tight because of distance and traffic), but after the game, we headed west towards Phoenix. We left later in the morning (~10 am) and made the BOB early so there was time to wander around before the D-Backs game. Then up to Flagstaff, and the final day was at the Grand Canyon. Headded back to Vegas after that.

As to the 5 days in a row in one location on this trip, it's nice because 1) you can leave your stuff in one place; 2) everything is ~2 hours away, so; and 3) that gives you the option of leaving the hotel at 8 or 9 am and getting to your destinaton at ~10 am, and sightseeing untill the ballgame @ 7 pm.

As to sight-seeing - it's a double-edged sword. You are at the mercy of the bus, but I don't think you can 1) do these type trips any cheaper than they put them together (they include hotel, travel, parking, tickets, and the "convienience factor" of not having to worry abot planning yourself); 2) you meet some nice people; and 3) you'll see some stuff you might have missed. Back to that West Coast Trip for a minute - I don't think I've ever seen so much in a one week trip ever before, or ever since, and it was because of the bus driver and the tour guide - they had done it before, multiple times, and knew what to do and where to go.

Anyway, I'd recomend it. I don't work for either Bob's or Diamond, but I've enjoyed the three Diamond trips I've taken, and am doing another. You have to like/love baseball, but if you do, you'd have a good time.


Posted on May 7, 2009 at 4:40 PM by Moose97 Highlight this comment 28

I may have missed it, but I don't see it posted anywhere. I received in the mail yesterday the pricing for having your name engraved on the glass wall at Target Plaza. For Season Ticket holders they have until May 22nd for a 20% discount which would put it at $195 + $80 more if you want a glass engraving for yourself.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 5:32 PM by Camden Highlight this comment 29

Question - is the Budweiser Plaza/Deck thing atop the Admin Bldg, will that be a ticketed location, standing room only? What are they gonna do up there?
I love the schedule idea, above the entry ramp for 394, however, it probably wouldnt be done...they'd have to shut the freeway down for two weeks for someone to go up there and paint it.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 6:06 PM by luke Highlight this comment 30

OF Jeff

I agree that Tiger Stadium was pretty awesome, but don't let that keep you from going to a nice stadium. Comerica isn't bad at all. It is actually very nice. Out of the major league ballparks I've been to, I'd rank it like so...

1. Kauffman (Beautiful before the 250 mil, can't wait to see it now)
2. Comerica (Open, spacious, nice)
3. Jacobs/Progressive (Great, besides upper deck thats in the clouds)
4. US Cellular (Not as bad as everyone says)
5. Miller Park (I compare it to riding in a with a moon roof, not a convertible)
6. Old Busch (Pretty crappy)
7. Metrodome (you all know)

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 6:15 PM by steve a Highlight this comment 31

Rick, thanks for the response!

One more question. This may have been discussed a long time ago but I have always wondered why they couldn't extend target plaza so that it covered the entire roadway below. In other words, fill in the gap between Target Plaza and 7th Street.

My guess is that it would have been prohibitively expensive. Was this even discussed as a possibility? That would have been a great canvas to create a large urban public space.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 6:28 PM by Wanda Phillips Highlight this comment 32

Cost you could say was the ultimate factor, to do that it would have been technically have to meet code for tunnels or something like that. It would have been ridiculously expensive to build to code. Cost I know was the factor when it comes to expanding 7th.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 6:40 PM by Camden Highlight this comment 33

Wanda - they did it like that so that they were building a "bridge," rather than creating a "tunnel." The federal government has specific regulations concerning the difference between the two, and while I don't think it would have been much more expensive to build the structure "as is" over 394, it would have been more expensive to build the "tunnel" because of more safety regulations required.


Posted on May 7, 2009 at 6:54 PM by Moose97 Highlight this comment 34

Completely off the subject, and maybe it's been mentioned before. Has anybody noticed this year that when the Twins wear their alternate blue road tops (ABRT) that they have the "Twins" logo instead of the "Minnesota" on the front ?? P.S a perdiction. If our pitching, and I mean starters and bullpen, keep this up, the Twins will end up in last place this year. They give runs up in BUNCHES !!

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 7:00 PM by JohnF Highlight this comment 35

An additional thought on my post above. I remember a game where Kenny Rogers was pitching for the Twins on the road. The Twins were wearing their blue road jerseys with "MINNESOTA" on the front as usual. In the 2nd inning, the umpire motioned to Kenny Rogers, who stepped forward and the umpire informed him that he needed to go change his uniform. Kenny had put on a blue road jersey, but it had the "TWINS" logo on the front. He went into the clubhouse to change and came out a few minutes later and the game resumed.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 7:12 PM by JohnF Highlight this comment 36

steve - I gotta agree with your list up there. I think Kauffman is a great park, good surroundings, renovations done very nicely. I don't think they have as much waterfall as they did before, do they?
I remember, as I'm sure we all do, when Kauffman had AstroTurf...

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 7:26 PM by luke Highlight this comment 37

I read that they got rid of the alternate blue road unis that said MINNESOTA. We just have blue jerseys that say TWINS now.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 7:36 PM by Brandon Highlight this comment 38

Huge ads at major league ballparks were actually a very common sight at what we call classic ballparks. Ebbets Field, Crosley Field, Shibe Park, Sportsman's Park, Baker bowl, and even Fenway Park had outfield walls festooned with ads.
When the first ads returned to outfield walls in Milwaukee, it seemed to give the park a classic, urban ballpark feel.
What would Ebbets Field be without the Abe Stark sign at the base of the right field wall ("Hit Sign, Win A Suit")? How about Baker Bowl's enormous Lifebouy sign ("The Phillies Use Lifebouy." The response: "And they still stink!")? The Green Monster at Fenway Park wasn't always that sick, pale green. It used to be covered with ads dominated by an enormous Gem Blades sign.
In the grand scheme of things, looking at a few billboards during a ball game isn't the worst thing in the world. The ads help to keep ticket prices at a fairly reasonable level, and corporate naming rights allow teams to contribute more dough toward the construction of new ballparks.
We don't mind paging past ads in magazines and newspapers. We've grown used to, and have resigned ourselves to, putting up with ads on TV and radio. Lady Bird Johnson's efforts to rid our highways of billboards over forty years ago couldn't get enough traction to go anywhere.
Obviously, we've become numbed to the proliferation of advertising in this country. Why are we getting worked into a lather over ads at, and corporate naming of, ballparks?

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 7:55 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 39

I'll take a turn at ranking ballparks:

1) Wrigley Field
2) AT&T
3) Fenway (but they ahve done a better job than Wrigley at updating the park - hopefully that will change soon)
4) Kauffman (beautiful when I was there - I'd love to go back and see the changes)
5) Dodger Stadium (same as above - can't wait to see changes there in a few years)
6) Old Yankee Stadium (felt like it was destroyed in 1976 renovation, but still a classic)
7) Comerica (sorry Jeff - it is a beautiful park)
8) Jacobs Field
9) Oriole Park (I wasn't as impressed with it as others - perhaps it suffers from being the "first" and trying to live up to that?)
10) PetCo (another park I just thought I'd like more than I did - I HATE the outfield set-up)
11) Turner (just a blah park - not much to say here)
12) Minute Maid (best of the retractable roof parks - fun)
13) Busch II (made the best of the multi purpose donut stadiums)
14) Angel Stadium
15) US Cellular (a LOT better now than in 1991)
16) Great American (worst of the new parks?)
17) McAfee (Mt. Davis ruined a decent park - the hills out center the first time (1989) were cool - last time 2007 you could get lost in CF seats)
18) BP @ Arlington (mignt not be that bad, but I was there when it was 100 degrees, ad they had 54,000 people. Then they put up these screens to allow NO WIND to come through. It was the hottest I think I've ever been)
19) Chase Field (an airplane hanger)
20) Old Comiskey (maybe nice in it's day, but it needed to go by the time I saw it (early to mid '80's) it was a pit)
21) yep, you guessed it - Metrodome (no need to comment)

I'll add New Yankee Stadium, Citi Field, Nationals Park and Citizen's Bank Park in a couple months, plus hope to tour PNC while on that trip...


Posted on May 7, 2009 at 8:19 PM by Moose97 Highlight this comment 40

Moose: Thanks for the trip breakdown. That helped to answer my questions.

As for the ballpark rankings, I've been to several and when people ask how I'd rank them all I say that I can't. It is impossible to compare a pre-war Wrigley/Fenway to the modern retro ballparks of the 90s/00s. Apples vs. Oranges in my opinion.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 8:31 PM by Max Highlight this comment 41


I just rec that thing from the twins yesterday about the glass wall... i dont know what to do about it.. i guess it would be pretty cool to have my name on the park but then i feel it is just a way to suck more money out of me, so im conflicted

how about you guys? are you going to do this?

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 8:47 PM by Mazaratirick Highlight this comment 42

Max, I understand completely what you are talking about - apples/oranges. I've told people who have only been to the new parks and are going to Wrigley or Fenway that they have to expect a different experience when going to those places. If you expect to be pampered, and have wide concourses, etc., they you'll be disapointed. You have to go in with the mindset that you're watching baseball like it was in 1940. If you're able to do that, then you should be able to enjoy it.

As to being able to rank them, like I said, it is a different experience, but all rankings are is a statement of your personal feeling, so why not? I happen to like Wrigley because it's what I grew up with, and like. If I grew up with Yankee Stadium, maybe that's #1, or if Oriole Park was my home park, that's #1, etc...


Posted on May 7, 2009 at 9:07 PM by Moose97 Highlight this comment 43

i know i've sometimes hopped on the roof bandwagon, but it's funny, when folks list their favorite ballparks, Chase Field, Miller Park, Whatever-they-call-it-this-week Field in Houston and Rogers Centre/SkyDome are either at the bottom of the list, or not even on the list at all.
So, maybe it's good we didn't put a roof on TF after all.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 9:24 PM by luke Highlight this comment 44

You are correct Luke, the best ballparks in baseball are all open-air, and more specifically, urban ballparks. Both of which Target Field will be. The only exception IMO is Safeco Field.

Some of the best ballparks in baseball (in no specific order):

1.) PNC Park
2.) AT&T Park
3.) Fenway Park
4.) Wrigley Field
5.) Camden Yards
6.) Petco Park
7.) Coors Field
8.) Safeco Field
9.) Busch Stadium

I am still not sure about Yankee Stadium II or Citi Field, but by all means, Target Field will join this list next year.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 10:16 PM by Mike Brumley Highlight this comment 45

Watching baseball like it's 1940? I'll take that any day. When I went to Wrigley I remember looking at the crowd and I could almost see the suits and old-timey hats. It was one of the best baseball experiences I have had. It's so old that instead of concrete the floors are made of cobblestone. I had a blast there. No video boards for replay; we just had to pay better attention. I can't wait to see Fenway some day, but I just don't think you can beat Wrigley.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 10:26 PM by DuluthTim Highlight this comment 46

I mean its even cheaper than my school but is it really worth the $200 bucks? If it was for Charity I would probably do it, but its not worth knowing your name is etched somewhere. I can just scratch my name in a seat or something for a heck of a lot cheaper. The money goes to the ballpark authority so it's kind of a stupid tax that you don't have a chance at winning millions.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 10:44 PM by Camden Highlight this comment 47

moose and tim,

i have to agree that wrigley is one of the best places to catch a game... minus the mens bathrooms. the half-height walls with urinals on each side is a bit awkward- nothing like looking another guy in the eye while getting rid of some old style.

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 10:50 PM by stage fright Highlight this comment 48

Not much of a list here but i will give u mine,have not been to to many
1. Kaufmann
2. US Cell.
3. RYS. not #1 cuz i only took the tour no game
4.Miller park
5.North Commons Park (north mpls park, they have good crack!)

Posted on May 7, 2009 at 11:29 PM by Mazaratirick Highlight this comment 49


To answer your question, the waterfalls have not been changed at Kauffman. There is a huge addition of outfield seating that goes around it. Can't wait to sit out there on a hot day and get a little mist of that to cool down.


PS. Visiting the Negro League Baseball Museum is awesome, too.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 12:08 AM by steve a Highlight this comment 50

I heard on a video link from this site that the Twins actually have the permit for a full tunnel, but did not go for it because of the cost. Anyone else remember what video that was?

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 12:16 AM by Uncle Tom, OG Highlight this comment 51

My ranking (based on where I've been)s:

1. (tie) Fenway & Wrigley - both are similarly amazing between the history, great neigborhoods and aesthetics (I know rating them as a tie is a cop-out).
3. At&T Park - Sit behind the plate, upper deck on a clear night. You won't even need a game going on to be content.
4. US Cellular - Extremely underrated.
5. Camden Yards - Great, but overrated in some way I can't put my finger on.
6. Old Yankee Stadium - Great history, but mostly a dump.
7. Nationals Park - Decently enjoyable inside, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO OUTSIDE THE STADIUM...NOTHING!
8. Metrodome - All I've ever known...
9. RFK - Football stadium like the dome, only with DC heat. Yikes!

On the subject of sponsorship, be happy we didn't go the way of the New Hampshire Fisher Cats (Toronto's AA team): Stadium. Ouch.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 09:32 AM by AJ Highlight this comment 52

That is the worst place possible for the old met flagpole. Why use it at all, if this is the decided upon location? Come on Twins, you can do better than that. You have the perfect opportunity to mesh team history with the new ballpark and you are going to put the pole next to the Target center??? Put it in center field, next to Target Field station or even right between the Metropolitan Club and team store. This is something people will want their picture with and could be a great gathering place. Take advantage of it.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 1:35 PM by Jim Highlight this comment 53

FYI - there is a group from the Twins coming out to Colorado next Tuesday to inspect the turf being grown for Target Field. I have permission from the owner to come take pictures, as long as the Twins are OK with it. There will be a local NBC crew going up to take footage for KARE and I'm trying to get more info on what they are doing and if/when there will be a broadcast.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 5:39 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 54

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Row indicators are spray-painted with stencils over rust and peeling paint.

In case you don't know, that's Earl Battey.

Flagpole historian Ben McEvers at far right (click for the full photo set, graciously loaned to this site by Pat Backen)

Workers against green

Awesome seat. Awesome sun. Awesome hitter. (Photo by Tony Voda, courtesy Jared Wieseler)

Solution for a hot night, just inside Gate 34 (that's a cool mist, by the way, not hot steam, which would be kind of cruel)

This is the plaza as viewed from the A ramp.

One of the many supports being built over the tracks.

The media had some beautiful foliage to use as a background.

Puckett atrium menu part 2 (Those prices match elsewhere in the ballpark.)

An early concept for the pedestrial bridge. (Source: Ballpark Authority, RP)

I noticed this detail while taking the previous picture. I figure that it must be the VIP entrance from the surface parking lot. I don't think there is any parking inside the ballpark, so this entrance will likely be for suite-dwellers and other VIPs, though I can't say for sure whether players will enter here.

Rich Pogin (left) and Bruce Lambrecht (Source: Skyway News)

There's the opening through which the groundskeeping equipment will emerge (and disappear).

This would be a beautiful streetscape if there were ANY people.

Photo by Tyler Wycoff

Also from the same lobby, other window, a view which will clearly disappear before too long...

Once again, Noah is holding his ears because of the traffic noise.

A peak inside what will become the main concourse.

Anna keeps the riff raff under control.

Concept drawing for the fan/player appreciation wall. (Click to enlarge.)

The circulation ramp on Fifth Street is shaping up very quickly.

Work in progress.

It was in and then quickly out of his glove. You gotta make that play.

Mary Larson (left), a music teacher from Maple Grove, was a TwinsFest SSB winner and got to sing the anthem before the game.

Click to see the whole page from this 1971 program.

For executive entertaining

You write the caption...


BPM - Ballpark Magic

BRT - Bus Rapid Transit

DSP - Dave St. Peter

FSE - Full Season Equivalent

FYS - Fake Yankee Stadium (see also: NYS)

HERC - Hennepin Energy Resource Company (aka the Garbage Burner)

HPB - Home Plate Box

HRP - Home Run Porch

LC - Legends Club

LRT - Light Rail Transit

MBA - Minnesota Ballpark Authority (will own Target Field)

MOA - Mall of America

MSFC - Minnesota Sports Facilities Commission (owns the Metrodome)

NYS - New Yankee Stadium

SRO - Standing Room Only

STH - Season Ticket Holder

TCFBS - TCF Bank Stadium

TF - Target Field

Selected Bibliography - Analysis


First Edition (1992)

Second Edition (2006)


Selected Bibliography - Surveys


Second Edition (1987)

Not a "Third Edition" exactly,
but it replaced the above title

(2000, large coffee table)

Original edition (2000, round)

Revised edition (2006, round)

(2001, medium coffee table)

(2002, small coffee table)

(2003, medium coffee table)

(2004, very large coffee table)

(2006, very large coffee table)

Combines the previous two titles
(2007, medium coffee table)

Selected Bibliography - Nostalgia


Book and six ballpark miniatures

Complete Bibliography

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