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Spring Swing (Part 2)

May 8, 2009 12:48 AM

Here are a few more shots from yesterday's walking tour.

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Future home of the Met Stadium flag pole


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Plaza extension reaches toward First Avenue


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Flag poles, fencing, main entrance gates


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Fencing is going up all along the plaza


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Seville's certainly will benefit from 81 games a year played about a block away! (When I walked by on this day, the place looked deserted, but I stand corrected!)

The above picture looks across a little triangle of land which is currently just vacant. This month's video tour over on the Ballpark Authority web site mentions this triangle as a place to possibly put some sort of signage. Not much more detail is given, but I immediately imagined something akin to the big Metrodome sign at the corner of Fifth and Chicago, across from Hubert's. I'll report when I know more.

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Viewed from up Sixth Street, the tip of the canopy looks like the claw of some gigantic crustacean!

In case you missed this from the comments today, Camden reported receiving a letter from the Twins announcing the price for having your name engraved in one of those "panels of honor" that will be mounted on the plaza fencing:

For Season Ticket holders they have until May 22nd for a 20% discount which would put it at $195 + $80 more if you want a glass engraving for yourself.

It's an interesting offer. The concept is classy, but I wonder if people might feel like a brick in the pavement is somehow more permanent. It's probably not, but it becomes something of a perception thing.

Also in the comments was a description from Moose of what it's like to go on a ballpark tour with Diamond Baseball Tours:

my take (since I'm going back for my fourth trip) is that I enjoy the heck out of 'em! Here's how they work (obviously, this is all Diamond Baseball Tours related, as my Bob's trip will be in July):

Best available seats: I've only sat in the upperdeck twice - Dodger Stadium and AT&T Park. Even at Old Yankee Stadium we had lower deck/bowl seats. I think they mean best available group seats. I'm not expecting seats behind home plate (especially at Citi and NYS), but I'm not expecting to sit in the worst seats either. There are places out there (there's a place out there called Big League Tours) that offer better seats, but they are twice as expensive as well.

Type of people that travel: It's a mix. I'm 33 - will be 34 at the time of travel, and there will be several in that age bracket. There will likely be a few kids (elementry school age), and some older. There will likely be some father son combos, but it's not all elderly folks.

Travel: There ais NO overnight travel! Every night is spent in a hotel. Here's a sample from a previous trip. You are responsable for getting yourself to the trip's starting location (I'm going to use my West Coast Trip, so Las Vegas). From there, you leave early (usually 8 or 9 am) for San Diego for a ballgame. Typically, you will arive a couple hours early, depending on traffic, to wander around. After the game, you load and drive about an hour to the hotel. We then drove an hour to LA, and had a tour of downtown LA prior to our Dodgers (afternoon) game. Then a bus trip north to our hotel just south of Oakland. Next morning, we spent time in Jack London Square, then the A's game. Back to the hotel, and the next day was a free day in San Francisco. Giants game that night, and back to the hotel. Bus back south to LA, and an Angels game (tight because of distance and traffic), but after the game, we headed west towards Phoenix. We left later in the morning (~10 am) and made the BOB early so there was time to wander around before the D-Backs game. Then up to Flagstaff, and the final day was at the Grand Canyon. Headded back to Vegas after that.

As to the 5 days in a row in one location on this trip, it's nice because 1) you can leave your stuff in one place; 2) everything is ~2 hours away, so; and 3) that gives you the option of leaving the hotel at 8 or 9 am and getting to your destinaton at ~10 am, and sightseeing untill the ballgame @ 7 pm.

As to sight-seeing - it's a double-edged sword. You are at the mercy of the bus, but I don't think you can 1) do these type trips any cheaper than they put them together (they include hotel, travel, parking, tickets, and the "convienience factor" of not having to worry abot planning yourself); 2) you meet some nice people; and 3) you'll see some stuff you might have missed. Back to that West Coast Trip for a minute - I don't think I've ever seen so much in a one week trip ever before, or ever since, and it was because of the bus driver and the tour guide - they had done it before, multiple times, and knew what to do and where to go.

Anyway, I'd recomend it. I don't work for either Bob's or Diamond, but I've enjoyed the three Diamond trips I've taken, and am doing another. You have to like/love baseball, but if you do, you'd have a good time.

The cost offered on the Diamond web site is $1450 for single occupancy on most of these tours, less for double, triple, or even quadruple occupancy.

I have no experience with such a thing, but it sounds like a lot of fun at a relatively reasonable price.

More pix tomorrow!

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Uncle Tom,

I remember reading that, yes, the Twins went for the "bridge" option and not the tunnel because of restrictions and code (and cost too perhaps). But by the time the plaza was completed the federal/state tunnel coding was applied to the project anyway. I remember thinking "That's stupid."

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 02:19 AM by chuck in ak Highlight this comment 1

Thanks for the pics, Rick!

I doubt The Seville Club is out of business - it doesn't open till after 6pm. It's the classiest strip joint in the cities... I've never been to it, but my buddies that visit have raved about what an upscale operation it is.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 09:09 AM by OG Jeff Highlight this comment 2

OG is right... The block is prime real estate, but the Seville isn't going anywhere. There are lines out the door after concerts, T-Wolves games, and practically every weekend night during the summer. I'm sure the owner/operator is just excited about Target Field as the rest of us.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 10:18 AM by Aaron Highlight this comment 3

I drove by Centerfield bar and grill after the twins game last sunday when looking at TF and i think they will do well...there is already twins fans there after the game per they give u a free drink with ur ticket stub..

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 11:20 AM by Mazaratirick Highlight this comment 4

They are not actually thinking of putting the old met flagpole in the spot you pointed out in that picture that would be kind of silly to do that. It should be in a place where more people could see it like ahhh center field of the ballpark is a good spot.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 11:25 AM by Leroy Highlight this comment 5

They are not actually thinking of putting the old met flagpole in the spot you pointed out in that picture that would be kind of silly to do that. It should be in a place where more people could see it like ahhh center field of the ballpark is a good spot.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 11:25 AM by Leroy Highlight this comment 6

I agree with Leroy....The Met flagpole should be THE flagpole at TF as well. If it's too short, then make the others shorter.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 11:46 AM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 7

For those interested, new construction update for TCF Bank Stadium (or as I like to call it, the Barn Yard).

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 1:05 PM by Andy Highlight this comment 8

"Viewed from up Sixth Street, the tip of the canopy looks like the claw of some gigantic crustacean!"

Haha, it does.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 1:07 PM by Lafferty Highlight this comment 9

I remember hearing that they would leave the concourse open for commuters between the transit hub and the plaza to 6th street. Something about movable turnstiles.. Is this still the plan? I'm having a hard time figuring how this would work.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 1:10 PM by Elston Gunn Highlight this comment 10

don't believe it is the interior concourse that will be left open to commuters but rather the external walk-way that goes around the outside of the stadium.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 1:28 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 11

That is the worst place possible for the old met flagpole. Why use it at all, if this is the decided upon location? Come on Twins, you can do better than that. You have the perfect opportunity to mesh team history with the new ballpark and you are going to put the pole next to the Target center??? Put it in center field, next to Target Field station or even right between the Metropolitan Club and team store. This is something people will want their picture with and could be a great gathering place. Take advantage of it.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 1:52 PM by Jim Highlight this comment 12

Do you mean the Herc side promenade? or the public sidewalk near the lightrail station? I really thought that you'd be able to get from the transit hub to Target Plaza on non-game days.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 1:52 PM by Elston Gunn Highlight this comment 13

I agree on the flagpole issue - putting it next to Target Center would be a poor choice. Put it on the plaza or in the park.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 2:44 PM by OG Jeff Highlight this comment 14

Andy,

Are there plans to paint the bleachers at TCF Bank Stadium? Because right now the "MINNESOTA" looks awfully strange. Not to mention that the gold letters are off-center from the maroon background. If the bleachers remain grey, the stadium is going to look unfinished.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 2:48 PM by David Highlight this comment 15

Well, It's Veteran's Day! THANK YOU to all those veterans out there.
I do not see a seat installation taking place. My new guess is sometme in June. Let's say Friday, June 19.
As far as "The Barnyard" is concerned...WOW! I LIKE IT A LOT! I can't wait to go to a game this fall. As far as the grey bleachers, who cares what it looks like when no fans are out there, just wear your maroon and gold on game days folks.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM by Locker Highlight this comment 16

David,

From this rendering (see link) it looks like the bleachers will indeed remain gray. I agree it looks strange and somewhat unfinished - though is should look a bit better when the lower level seats are in.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 3:38 PM by Andy Highlight this comment 17

This is a reply or continued discussion about the Twins and Royals series in KC August 21-23. If any of you go, there is a music festival called North vs South. This year is the 7th annnual and being held at a venue called Daves in Uptown Kansas City. Most of the bands are either from Minneapolis or Austin Texas. Yours truly, is a member of the Magnolias and will be playing on Saturday night August 22nd (representing the NORTH of course). The game time is 6:10 pm. Come down after the game and say hi. It should be a fun night. Here's a link. Bands are still being confirmed at the moment. http://www.myspace.com/daveysuptown

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 3:46 PM by JohnF Highlight this comment 18

The North vs South Festival runs from Thursday August 20th thru Saturday August 22nd. 3 nights total.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 4:31 PM by JohnF Highlight this comment 19

One thing I will absolutely love about outdoor baseball is going to happen tonight. Our first rain delay and then postponement! Awesome Baby! I would love to be sitting out in the rain and watching the grass grow at Target Field right now, and eating some good Delaware North food! Oh well, I'll have to wait til next year.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 5:33 PM by Locker Highlight this comment 20

Would it be delayed? I live just a few miles from downtown and its barely raining here, I think it takes just 30 minutes for the field to completely dry after a rain. Hard to say it would be called on a light rain.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 6:10 PM by Camden Highlight this comment 21

Elston Gunn, this is from the Twins website:

"The public will also be able to use this area as an access to the transit station on 5th Street on non-game days. The gate on Target Plaza, with turnstiles built into it for entry into ballpark, will be movable. When the Twins aren't playing, the gate will swing around and the outfield concourse will become part of the city sidewalk system -- meaning that fans can walk right up to the ballpark and through the concourses in the outfield to reach the trains."

If you follow the link, it's the last paragraph.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 6:47 PM by MATT Highlight this comment 22

Excuse me but I dance at the Seville and I can assure you that it is most definitely NOT deserted!

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 6:53 PM by Wanda Phillips Highlight this comment 23

I modified the caption on the picture of Seville's. No offense intended, but it looked like a ghost town when I walked by...

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 6:58 PM by Rick 24

To prove that you dance at Seville's we will need to see a photo...

Just Kidding...or am I... :)

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 7:15 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 25

^^^^ Ahh that's funny

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 7:20 PM by MATT Highlight this comment 26

Thanks MATT. That's exactly what I remembered seeing but couldn't find again. I hope that's still in the plans, but the turnstile gate sure doesn't look movable to me. They'd have to put gates over all the bleacher entrances too.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 7:27 PM by Elston Gunn Highlight this comment 27

Didn't somebody say that the Pioneer Press was tracking whether games would have been postponed or rained out if they were being played outdoors?

If so, I can't locate it. Link, please?

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 7:47 PM by Rick 28

David - it won't matter what the stands at tcf stadium look like since you won't be able to see them anyways as they will all be filled with maroon & gold clad butts!

ski-u-mah! go gophers!

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 7:54 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 29

Rick,

I don't know if its on their site, but they do have it in the hard copy. I last saw it a couple days ago when it stood at zero.

Beta- exactly my feelings with green seats at Target Field, I really don't care all that much.

Posted on May 8, 2009 at 8:41 PM by Camden Highlight this comment 30

All I can say, regarding your pics, wow

Posted on May 10, 2009 at 3:25 PM by luke Highlight this comment 31


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