click my name for a great recap so far of the twins season by aaron gleeman.

my three daughters were COLD yesterday at the game when it was in the 80's outside.

thx for the post, rick.

They couldn't have been colder than we were in the dome this weekend when the breeze kicked in around the 4th inning. It's ridiculous that they keep it 68 degrees...another reason I'm looking forward to being outdoors. Great post Rick.

There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason behind the installation of seats. It looks like one section here, another section there. I would think they would have installed the seats similar to how the bowl was constructed, from right field, around home plate to left field, but it doesn't look that way. Anyone know if there's a cohesive plan in place, or is it just willy-nilly?

looking at the overlay pics, i think a lot of people are going to be disapointed that if they are in the first row upper deck at TF, they are further away than first row upper deck at the dome

Rick. I was just wondering how difficult would it be to also have the comment page tabs located at the bottom of the thread too. Patiently waiting for some ah-ha moments, come on Twins!!

Sids column todays says DSP is in Atlanta "trying to complete a great commercial deal" with Delta for TF...hmmmm

So what is the name of that field in the pic above?

I am sure there is a plan for what seats get installed and when. But it is a super secret Mortenson document. At least the way that it is being done keeps us watching the webcams!

First of all, I have really enjoyed this website. Great job!!

Any idea when the grass is supposed to be going in? From the webcam, it sure looks like things are progressing on the playing area. The cranes are out of there, and the drainage work seems to be done, but it is hard to tell. The timeline from the Twins site said fall 2009, but they seem to be on schedule or a little bit ahead of schedule.

Maybe these are the A-HA moments we've been promised. As in, "A-ha, they're installing section 110 now." Or "A-ha, look at that, the left field bleachers are going in!"

So what will be the first song played at Target Field?? Here Comes the Sun? Raindrops keep fallin' on my head? Will it be the classic It's a Beautiful Day For A Ballgame? Stormy? Mr. Blue Sky? Kentucky Rain Keeps Fallin' Down?

Ideas anyone?????

Grass will be installed in mid-August, so about a month. It said that on the last episode of "Under the Lights"...

The field drainage is not finished. The left side of the field was just recently cleared of the construction equipment. Grass is going in next month.

I have long been aware that one does not need to take out a loan to enjoy the game in it's purest form. The kids play some pretty good ball and, most importantly, you get to watch the future.

Kev, here's some more I came up with just to name few:

"People Of The Sun" Rage Against The Machine
"Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me" Elton John
"House Of The Rising Sun" The Animals
"Blister In The Sun" Violent Femmes
"Turn Up The Sun" Oasis

"Laugh as the Sun" Rusted Root

"let it snow"...
hehe

What new ballparks have people been to since the new parks started opening in the early 1990s? I've been to the new Yankee Stadium, Citi Field, US Cellular Field (pre, during, and post renovation), and PETCO Park. Perhaps it's just the San Diego vibe, but PETCO is my favorite of the group due to the location, layout, appearance, friendly fans and staff, and whole mood of the park.

US Cellular is too cavernous, feels too hostile, and lacks that neighborhood vibe although the food is outstanding. Citi Field is actually a really cool park, but also lacks the neighborhood feel and while it's one thing to celebrate Jackie Robinson, the lack of Mets history in the way of banners, murals, posters, and memorabilia is quite striking. Yankee Stadium is also nice and they've done well to make it look and feel like the old park, but it's too corporate. PETCO Park was the one I felt like I could attend games at regularly and feel the most excited about as a place to watch baseball.

Rick, any thoughts on what you'll do with this blog AFTER 279 days, 21 hours, 31 minutes and 32 seconds?

I vote for Mr. Blue Sky.....please tell us why, you had to hide away for so long....um like 28 years!!!

I vote for Mr. Blue Sky.....please tell us why, you had to hide away for so long....um like 28 years!!!

re: dan, time for a faq page, rick

I am sure (and I hope) this blog will stay open beyond April 12, 2010...There will be A LOT to continue to discuss such as best/worst seating areas, biggest surprises/disappointments in the ballpark, best concessions, best parking areas, any "ah ha" moments, etc...

I am looking forward to everyone's feedback and analysis throughout the 2010 season. It will also be nice to see the hundreds of photos from fans once the gates to Target Field officially open on April 12.

after the 1987 series, a local newsstation did a short video montage set to music. one of the songs used was the first verse of "i'm havin' the time of my life." anyone remember that?

craig, you betcha this blog will be open post opening day. and i checked whois and rick's already got twinsballpark2050.com registered...

yeahklye,
It was KARE 11, I have it on tape (originally not transfered to dvd). I can't believe you remember that too. Ha! I was a total baseball nerd back then too. At least now I've found more nerds to bs with!

2030? If they want one by 2050, they better start begging now.

Yeah as a side note, Ballpark Magic is a good idea to change it (back) to. It gives one the freedom to really expand on the site and cover much more than simply Target Field.

I vote for "summer wind" by Frank Sinatra even though it may not be appropriate for April.

Is someone going to the site to take some pictures, espcially the centerfield entrance because that entrance is still under construction since i am starving for some fresh pics.

NewGuy, I'll be taking some pics this week and will post over the weekend.

Others are welcome to post too :)

Maybe the seats are being installed as they are delivered? Or perhaps they are being random to keep you all guessing where they go next...

The Summer Wind is my all time favorite Frank Sinatra song !!!

Dundas Legion Field is my guess for the park above. Am I right?

on webcam 2 you can see that they're starting to do some work on finishing the top of the halo again

locker,

I take it you've been to a duke's game?

i wouldn't want to sit in a section that the seats have already been installed cuz they will be like a year old by the time i sit in them, i want to sit in new seats, so i'll wait til one of the last sections are installed and sit there

is it possible that since the seats are going to be angled toward the infield, there might be seats set at different angles? Perhaps, if this be the case, the seats and mounts are arriving in such a manner that they have to install the seats in a random order of sections due to the angles of the seats that arrive. That's the best explanation I can concoct for this. Of course, having no knowledge as to whether they manufacture the angled seating in more than one angle, I'm only guessing here.
As for first songs for the new park, I think we can add "Sunshine On My Shoulder" to the list of possibles. Didn't the Beatles have a song called "Good Day, Sunshine?"

How about that crappy tune from the 70s, "Moonlight Feels Right?"

"'How about that crappy tune from the 70s, "Moonlight Feels Right?'"

Oh, that's right, It'll be a day game. Hopefully we can rule that lousy Starbuck tune out.

Mike, yeah that's what I've been figuring all along. Not to mention you need to make sure you have the right seat/row numbers, and they ARE at different angles, as someone said towards the mound. Exception I think is the Field Box seats where are more towards second I thought I heard.

Nice Target Field tour focusing on food/concessions/merchandise sale on FS North right now.

Centerfield thats not a bad song to open up with. Or Let The Sunshine In could be good too.

rick, that brings up a good topic of discussion: which of the stadiums that have been built in the past decade have the best chance of still being viable in 2050? does target field have a chance to last 4 decades?

jim, we need to post that video! mom yeahklye has a copy and i'm going to get it from her.

How long does the sales tax run that funds Target Field?

It's not particularly summer-related, but I think Bob Dylan's The Times They Are A'Changing would be a solid choice for an opening song. He's a Minnesota boy after all...

roadwarrior - taxes don't ever go away. the metrodome tax is still in effect, even though it's expired long ago.

Hey, I got a question. On webcam 1, does anybody know what the black lines are that extend 2/3 up the ballpark? One is to the home plate side of the visitor's dugout, the other is at the far end of the moat. Seems like a gap in the stadia but I wouldn't know why, maybe an expansion gap? Thanks in advance to anyone who can solve this mini-mystery of mine.

If you look at webcam 2 you can see a similar kind of black line extending up just to the right of the section that has seats installed. That is a bit of a mini-mystery.

I like sunshine of your love by cream,that would be cool....

I walked around Target Field at lunch today and took a bunch of photos. Click my name to see them.

Great Pictures Jeepboy! is it 2010 yet?!!!!!! haha

Why is it that on camera 1, there is three sections of seats installed behind the moat at homeplate, but on camera 2 there's only 1?

nice pictures Jeepboy! I'm surprised how much the ballpark looks JUST like the renderings...

Maybe the black lines are markings for them to seats to, then break time haha i dunno

CTM, The reason you don't see them is they are covered up by the stadia on the 3rd baseline.

As for the cracks, they have to be expansion joints. They will probably be covered with strips of metal.

If they are in fact expansion joints, why are they not present in the upper sections of the Terrace Level? Are they not needed in those locations? Jeepboy, you were obviously there today.(Awesome pics BTW) Were those distinct black lines or gaps or joints easily visible in person. I saw them in some of your pics from today.

all i'm sayin' is that the plaza looks awfully small and cramped on img_0126 when comparing it to the current plaza at the dome...

(on jeepboy's pix)

agreed yeahklye. I think the biggest impact will be from the windscreen that has yet to go up over the ramp. However, I think something on that big a scale is best without distractions. the rounded planters, shades, and topiary bats do come across as cluttered. all of them fine on their own, but combined might be too much.

also i believe there are still lamps, the tribute wall, a giant gate number and some statues that are supposed to be installed, so it is not nearly as busy as it will be this time next year...

the green plantings definitely help make the plaza look great. maybe it will be a little less cold once the hops are covering the steel bats. Also seeing the beginning of a staircase down to the sidewalk from the "skyway afterthought" was an ah-ha moment.

In response to the black lines yes they are expansion joints. A structure that big is going to move a whole lot. Eventually I'm sure they'll have a cover plate on them but for now they're unfinished.

all i'm sayin' is that the plaza looks awfully small and cramped on img_0126 when comparing it to the current plaza at the dome...

I have thought the same thing when driving and walking by recently.

Did the Twins give any consideration to extending more of the plaza over 394 than will be the case? If they had done that, how much more money would have had to be spent on construction costs?

I agree 100% - it's smaller than the current plaza. HOWEVER, I DON"T CARE! I don't think you folks understand that the current Metrodome plaza and the Target Plaza and NOTHING alike.

The Dome plaza is a place where folks gather to AVOID entering a dump of a ballpark. That's why the Twins have added several items (items, BTW, that are similar to items that will be available INSIDE Target Fields concourses) to the Dome plaza so folks can stand going to indoor Metrodome games.

Target Plaza is simply an entrance to the ballpark. They aren't going to line it with vendors or bands. Again, you're comparing apples and oranges here...

Moose

not sure if this has been mentioned, i don't think it has - but I heard the newest "This is Twins Territory" radio spot for Target Field. He talks about Target Field, and being outdoors, to the tune of "Home, Home on the Range" I heard it on KFAN this afternoon.

Anyone else heard that one??

Moose,

Thanks for the short cut to the lake.. it was fast and easy...

well guys i pick my seats in 5 days... camden what did you pick?

Moose is spot on about the plaza.

Maz - are you still going with the 20 game plan in the bleachers?

What the hell is it with this team and its Yankees complex...GEEEZ!!

I know! It isn't looking good thus far.

I went with plan c row 317 row 5 seats 1-2. I was impressed even with the super high up seats at Busch( top row in infield) and wasn't impressed with what was left in the field box. This way I'll see downtown and the scoreboard along with a birds eye view of theentire field. I'm not ecstatic but after KC and St. Louis can't wait to get back outdoors.

looks even worse now lol

That field looks SO familiar...did someone already guess it? It looks like Elm Creek to me.

luke- yes I have heard that commercial and I think it is pretty creative :) "where gomez goes first to third then scores on a sacrifice fly...home, new home downtown, 'cause playing inside just isn't right, sun shinin' everywhere, kicking sox dairy air and getting mooned by the moon every night" hahahaha sorry :) its something like that

I had heard that they had considered making the Plaza larger, but MnDOT said if they did, they would have to treat it as a tunnel, at a substantially higher cost.

disagree w/ my fellow bemidjian, moose, on the plaza. if the plaza extended all the way over 394, i think it could be a significantly cool area to hang out. there could be a really cool street life vibe going on. instead, since it's being presented as a hang out place and there's so much cool stuff to look at, i think it will feel very cramped. waiting on master rick to speak some truth on this cuz he's actually been on the plaza and in the concourses...

Agree on potential of the plaza as a good gathering spot -- but regardless of whether it's there to be utilized or just looked at as you enter the park, it's still got too much going on.

My 2nd guess is Braemar Legion Field. Home of the Edina Hornets
That is one buggy field!

Damn Yankee$! Check my name for ticket prices around the majors. Everything about them pigs including their ridiculous seat pricing really disgusts me. I found it on digg and it's actually pretty interesting comparison of big vs. small market teams.

On an earlier post, Rick said that the plaza won't be a place to congregate, like at the dome...It is designed to make the flow of people flow to the inside of the park; afterall, it's not like we're going inside to see the game.

Also, nice pics jeepboy...

I agree about the plaza not needing to be a "hang out" place, but only a place to meet before going into the stadium. Anyone who's spent time out on the Metrodome plaza on a beautiful summer evening knows the reluctancy of the crowd to have to go inside for the game. Right now, I'd rather quaff beer on the plaza at the Metrodome instead of watching BP, for instance. But at Target Field, I'll quaff beer inside the stadium watching BP because I'll still be outside on that beautiful summer evening.

Canopy nearing completion and holy seat installation Batman!

One issue with the plaza may be the Tradition Wall. If they are creating a stand and look at it wall in a place where there is regular people flow it could get hairy...not sure how the layout is though.

jUST WONDERING,
I have the 20 game pack but now i think i will skip the blechers per its all booked up until u get under the over hang...i think that i will take best avalible maybe up on the limestone lef line like 4 row... also upperdeck about where camden is speaking of... i sat up there @ the K last week and was amazed at the view ..does any one know if the view level will be similar to Kaufmans upperdeclk??

need help this is crunch time .. 4th quarter

Man, I thought it was Braemer but couldn't find any pics to confirm. Played those cake eaters a bunch at that park.

That is what i like to see!! 2 sections of seats going in at once instead of 1!

I had the pleasure of spending about 45 minutes at the Twins marketing center with the director of Target Field development today. I agreed to some restrictions on pictures (though I will have some pictures of the revised ballpark model this weekend), and probably shouldn't reveal everything I learned, but here are some interesting items:
- The ballpark model is updated with the Target Field logos/signs and the Budweiser deck. What appears to be the Minnesota shaking hands sign is also there.
- The Tavern restaurant (exact name escapes me) in the admin building may be open on non-game days, if the area can support it. Doesn't sound like a decision on the other restaurants has been made, but didn't seem likely.
- The Twins are very pleased with Target as the primary sponsor and have been great to work with. It seems very clear that Target isn't going to OD on naming (like Citi did in NY). The Twins were way down the line with another naming rights partner before that fell through and Target stepped in. I won't say who that was, but I think people might be able to guess when the naming convention for the suites is revealed. Target is a great choice, but it would've been almost storybook had the original sponsor decided to move forward.
Personally, I'm very impressed at how Target seems to have decided to go with branding and partnership with the Twins. I suspect we will all be pleased with the relatively low-key approach (compared to some other new parks)
- The Budweiser deck (yes, about who could write the sponsorship check) will likely be a dual-use facility with separate admissions for pre-game and in-game. Will be a cool place to watch a game, unless you are in the pit area. Current plans for single and group events, as well as typical corporate rentals. Presumably Budweiser will control many of the dates.
- 310/311 (I don't have map handy, just going from memory) that were blocked off for season ticket holder seat selection are likely to be family sections (no alcohol) and the rightfield sections were specifically held back for single game sales and to create a different atmosphere in that area of the park.
- The skyline sections on the Club level are for group sales/events and there will be a number of suites along first base/right field line that will be for individual game rental, some of which can be combined into larger spaces (starting at 24 people).
- I have a much better understanding of the picture policy in place at the TF site and reasons behind it. It may be a little restrictive (and it's not clear the Twins have full control over it), but makes sense to me now, more so than the "aha moments" ever did.
- Original plans for a Twins Hall of Fame above the Metropolitan Club were scrapped, due to size and cost constraints, but that may be a future consideration for part of the Ford building. As everyone knows, the Twins are one of the best clubs in MLB when it comes to keeping tradition and linkage with the past and its' players and it seems they are very committed to continue that.

I was impressed with what the Twins are doing with Target Field before, but am even more so now. This is going to be a great facility. I'm already disappointed that I won't be able to go to the 60 games or so a year I would normally do.

jfh - if memory serves correctly, I believe the full name will be "Town Ball Tavern"

Nice report jfh.

Are you going to tell the rest of the posters "your better understanding" of the picture policy and reasons behind it? I hope I am misinterpreting this as a Na Na Na Na Na Boo Boo I know something you don't know...

Please elaborate.

When will the naming conventions for the suites be released? And isn't this site supposed to be the open forum for all thins Target Field and Twins? A anti no photo sorta place? Why are you feeling that you should be withholding information to the masses just like they do? Why shouldn't you reveal everything you learned unless is it personal to your and your account?

Not to be mean or anything but this site is for everyone and I would hope that someone who gets to meet personally with the director of Target Field Development, a very good catch on your part BTW would be excited to dish out all the goodies to the masses.

- The Tavern restaurant (exact name escapes me) in the admin building may be open on non-game days, if the area can support it. Doesn't sound like a decision on the other restaurants has been made, but didn't seem likely.

Opening the Town Ball Tavern, or for that matter the Metropolitan Club, on non game days would be a colossal mistake. Target Field is too far from the main business area to bring in much sustained traffic at lunch time. At dinner time and later, the lack of onsite parking, as opposed to the nearby ramps, is going to be a huge minus. People might be willing to walk a few blocks for a game, but are generally less willing to do so for restaurants. Granted the warehouse district and North Loop are starting to get more foot traffic at night, but Target Field is cut off from them in a way that will make access more of a chore than most people would likely be willing to undertake. The various restaurants that have occupied the space at Target Center at 1st Ave and 6th St have all done poorly despite a theoretically better location than Target Field's. I also think that, despite many sincere efforts, the food at even the nicest of ballpark and arena restaurants around the country is never of high enough quality or properly priced vs. quality to entice customers on non game nights.

Yeah jfh! Give up the goods! Change a letter or somethin in your name. No one will know...

Awesome report, jfh!! Thank you for sharing it with us!! It's good to hear that Target is taking the subtle approach and that the Twins seem to be managing things so well. Your report is about 180 degrees away from anything that came out a year ago concerning NYS and Citi. I love it! And putting a Twins HOF in the Ford Centre?? Sweet.

Max and Eric, all you have to offer is complaining about how jfh didn't give a good enough report? Really?? Try some gratitude. A meeting of this type is usually accompanied by the understanding that key details won't be released (maybe that was even stated up front?). Unreal.

Thanks again jfh!!

I've seen it discussed before, but I'm just wondering if someone could elaborate on the "shaking hands" thing. I've looked for it, but with no luck.

Does anyone fear that a shaking hands neon would be too much of a direct rip-off of the Liberty Bell at Citizens Bank Park? I love the old logo, but it seems odd that we stress originality so much, and yet this feels less authentic.

The idea could be similar, but I think multiple stadiums now have things of this nature, don't they?

thanks for your report also jfh.
i wonder if 310/311 might be a bit of a stretch for a family section, as they are directly above the Twins' dugout, and have a great infield view. it seems to me that STH's might want to snatch those seats up...but who knows.

It might be too late, but do you think that the company that hosts the Twins' 3D seat thing (Ballena Technology) might redo their 3D sim of TF to include the Budweiser Party Deck??

In any event, great reporting jfh....

those Yankees are doing it to us...AGAIN!
as Jack Bauer would say - DAMMIT!
3-0 Yankees - top of the 4th.

sorry - i meant to say 3-0 at the top of the THIRD...cause it's top of the 4th now and the Yanks are ahead 3-2...

A good amount of the player went on a tour today. They didn't show really anything new, but they did say that the walls were up in the clubhouse. It seems easy to forget that they're doing those parts of the park.

The Fridays at miller park is open on non game days and miller park seems like its in the middle of nowhere as compared to city, at least TF is in downtown, plus the train would go straight there

Thanks for the update jfh. But I do urge you to keep quite on anything that is not supposed to get out. Honesty and Integrity are some of the most important virtues.

I cannot express how much I hate the New York Yankees.

the "twins" shaking hands logo is fun touch. that logo is a unique and original aspect of the team's history. it's more unique than the liberty bell in phillies park, which pays tribute to the city's history but has nothing to do with the baseball team. it's two guys celebrating a homerun or a twins win, c'mon, it's going to be great.

Jeff T. you're not the only one who hates the Yankees. If baseball had a hard salary cap, the Yankees would only be an average/good team. They have so much cash to slosh around that they can reload with top notch free agents just about every year. With the exception of Monday's game the Twins have been competitive, but they seem to have a Yankees' complex that makes them just good enough to lose. Cuddyear's at bat today with the bases loaded was about as bad as I've seen him look this year.

how many runs did the twins leave stranded at second base tonight? three? so frustrating!

Why can't Gardy get them over this complex. Maybe it's Gardy???

Some teams just have the others number. For the Lions it's the Vikings, for the Twins it's the Yankee's. Just something about athletics.

Don't have much time now, but I'll add some additional comments about my visit when I get home after tomorrow's game. The Twins butter not let me go home having seen another another 3-game sweep.

Anyone see Cuddyer's at bat with 2-outs and the bases loaded? Wow, that was one of the worst at bats I've ever seen, two swings at balls in the dirt. He did the same thing in the 16-inning marathon. I don't ever want him up with the game on the line, in a perfect world it would be Mauer every time.

I did not see it, but on the radio it seemed as though the crowd was not pleased at all, can't say I blame them.

cuddys at bat was bad but not as bad as the justin at bat when he swung at 3rd strike in the dirt....after joes homerun....

yea i went to milwakee last winter some of u remember and i stoped y the fridays when i get into town for a beer and some grub... there were people there and it was like a tuesday or somthing.. i think the tavern will do well during non game days/nights.. and worst case senario they cut hours if it dont work out...nbd

a twins hall of fame is the only element i really wish they could've incorporated into TF. if they could do something in the ford centre that'd be cool, but still it'd be ideal to have something within the park itself. there is so much great history with the club.

You guys beat me to the punch in rippin' on that Cuddy at bat. Just an all around pitiful effort. He has got to be one of the most anti-clutch players of the supposed "big bats" on the Twinks. He always seems to choke in those situations and hit random solo home-runs when it doesn't really matter.

To divert from last night's loss to the Yankees AGAIN...I found a nice article this morning in the Pioneer Press about "all you can eat" seats at the Dome. I'm Hoping they carry that promo over to TF.

I listened to a radio station this morning, who mentioned the same article (click my name for it), and they made it sound like this was the first year the Twins have done it. They've done it for at least three seasons...

Click my name to view a story on Kare11 last night about the ballpark and how the Hennepin County tax money will be used. The video includes some good aerial footage taken yesterday with a close-up of the workers installing the seats.

I think the link will just take you to the page that has the video. You'll need to navigate to the video from there.

I don't know if MDoT would even allow it and I'm sure it would be expensive, but I think a great place for the Twins hall of fame would be in a new building to be built as part of an expanded Target Plaza. The Timberwolves could go in on it with them, they probably have a basketball or something they could display.

I don't know about lunchtime, but I would think a restaurant/bar could get some traction with the Northstar commuters. Have a cocktail, and catch the train home...

I could see going to the Town Ball Tavern in the dead of winter when I'm needing a baseball fix.

or on away game days to watch the game

i think the twins took a lot of cues from citizens bank park in philly. i think TF takes is most similar to citizens bank, petco park in san diego and of course the cathedral of the new parks, pnc, which is an awesome venue.

The Legacy - "Does anyone fear that a shaking hands neon would be too much of a direct rip-off of the Liberty Bell at Citizens Bank Park? I love the old logo, but it seems odd that we stress originality so much, and yet this feels less authentic."

Yeah two dudes shaking hands and a bell are so similar. Matter of fact does anyone think that us playing in a ballpark is ripping off the rest of the league? We really should try to be more original.

The "shaking hands" logo would've been awesome...nothing unoriginal about it.

where is this shaking hands sign going to be exactly, and do we know how big

centerfield, right above the batter's eye. and plenty big

personally i think that logo is awesome, cooler than the twins script. and if some people want a signature part of the ballpark so when people see it on t.v. they know they are seeeing minnesota, that would be it, and it will be sweet if they do it right

I was at the game last night. The crowd boo'd for Cuddy's strikeout as loud as they did when A Rod would come up to bat.

Moda,
If the Twins shaking hands thingy is anything like we've described it, both it and the Liberty Bell at CBP would be large, lit-up pieces of anamotronics that would presumably go off when something good happens. Would they be the exact same? No. But it seems like there's a valid comparison to me. Of course, it's probably my fault for attempting to discuss the ballpark. I guess I forgot what this site is for.

I can't wait to see the neon guys shaking hands when Cuddyer hits a meaningless solo homerun when we are either leading by 10 runs or 10 runs behind. The guy is the biggest choker on the team. Gardy's has to have keep Kubel in the 5th spot. I don't care if it's 3 lefties in a row.

For those who are interested, there's some new photos up the the TCF Bank Stadium site. Look's to be pretty much done.

i think the park needs a fun, throwback element like that signage. i love how the park is turning out, but it does have a sleek, almost too corporate profile, particularly the 7th st side and as you approach up 7th. just add some old-time baseball kitsch, a great organ that you hear as you come through the gates, flags flying the colors of the team and a prominent stars & stripes. i know the twins have taken what works at the great new parks and tried to incorporate what they can for TF. just add that signage and a real organ. we've got a beauty of a ball field to look forward to.

drove by on my way to meetings today... they've installed traffic signals for the crosswalk by the centerfield gate - looks pretty good

signage is up for light rail as well

I do definitely think there needs to be an organ...the X has one and it was ranked the top stadium experience by ESPN

andy - thanks for posting the gopher football stadium pics. their new place back on-campus looks top notch. excited for football season already!

Actually the X was number 2, Lambeau was number 1

thanks andy for the TCF Stadium pics.

Took my mind off of the Yankees sweep for a minute.

ok you get my point

"And the silence you hear, is Lambeau Field."

f lambeau and f the packers! i piss in foam cheese heads just for the fun of it!

:-)

I feel you Beta... the sconnies suck azz

Legacy quit being passive stupid. You know I know what this site is for. Give me a break here stating that we are not original because we may have the twins shaking hands and another park has a lit up bell? That's just someone having pissy pants and wanting to be a debbie downer. there is no comparison other than they are both signs and in a ballpark. I mean what are we supposed to do? Not have any signs or fun stuff because some other team may have something vaguely similar somewhere else?

assholes rock