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Training Time

February 24, 2010 11:17 AM

Will you be in shape when the season starts? Will you be a lean, mean Mauer or a flabby Mijares?

Well, the Twins are working out, and so should you. Here, inning by inning, is your spring training regimen to prepare for a new ballpark.

Inning 1: Read everything you can. (Click image to buy the book.)

It's a little like reading a very fun phone book, but I can't put it down.

It's the local take on everything, from people who love Twins baseball. This is a very cool book, and amazingly only $12.99. Thanks, TwinsGeek!

This amazing book will learn-up all you young-uns about when baseball was baseball. Absolutely required reading before you enter any gate numbered for a player you never saw play.

Inning 2: Get your calendar marked up properly:

(Please note: Some of these events are still moving targets.)
Friday, March 12 - Open house for suite holders and Champions Club
Saturday, March 13, 9:00 AM - Single game tickets go on sale (as if), also Target Plaza opens
Friday, March 19 - Open house for Legends Club members
Saturday/Sunday, March 20/21 - Open house for remaining STHs
Saturday, March 27, 1:05 PM - Gophers and Louisiana Tech
Friday, April 2, 5:10 PM - Twins and Cardinals (exhibition)
Saturday, April 3, 1:10 PM - Twins and Cardinals (exhibition)
Monday, April 12, 3:10 PM - Home opener! (Be there or, um, well, be like everybody else.)

Inning 3: Keep up on all the media previews. Here's last night on channel 9:

Inning 4: Get some tickets!

Well, maybe that should say "get a plan which has the potential for netting you some tickets." Scalpers? StubHub? TCTraders?

Plan to do some dealing and/or begging.

Inning 5: Learn the songs.

Click on this awesome link right now!

All it's missing is the coolest clip of all -- the original version of the song! By the way, here's the story of that song. Contrary to urban legend, it was not written by Mr. Whipple.

Second verse:
We're gonna win Twins, give it our all!
We've got the guys who'll knock the cover off the ball!
Let's hear it now for the team that came to play!
Cheer for the Minnesota Twins today!

Inning 6: Be sure to purchase the appropriate eye-wear.

While a detached retina is bad news, it would have been worse if it had only been a lousy T-shirt in that canister.

Who knew you could shoot food out of those things? (Not Dome-dwellers...) Is there a better way to serve walleye-on-a-stick? (Fish part first, of course.) And what about Kramarczuk sausages? Cheese curds?

Is there any reason to serve food any other way?

Seriously, I hope the Twins get a little more creative with that particular promotion.

Inning 7: Prepare your bladder.

Drink lots of fluids for the appropriate amount of stretching. Here's what you'll see when the need arises:

(This new sneak peak, from one of our ninjas, is dedicated to our friend, kevin in az.)

Dry knees! Dry knees! (Or maybe I should say that the only moisture on your knees will be your own.)

Inning 8: Plan your ingress and egress.

Car, train, bus? Blimp? Personal helicopter? How will you get there? Where will you park? How long will it take to get out? Will you tailgate?

Here's how you'll cross Seventh Street if you park in the A ramp:

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Approach in the A ramp to the skywalk over Seventh


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Skywalk over Seventh


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Skywalk over Seventh, looking back toward the parking ramp


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Stairs down to the sidewalk from the skywalk over Seventh

At least one very convenient parking lot has set their event parking rates.

Inning 9: Watch snow melt. Dream.

You have been spared running sprints in the outfield -- for now. But if you're still flabby on March 1, there may be a snowblower with your name on it!

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See the Twins Logo tiles in the bathroom in the pic above? I have those in my office, along with an etched glass tile with the "TC" Logo that is installed in the bathrooms in the the Twins Clubhouse.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 11:37 AM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 1

Thanks for the Fox news clips. Good info. I like that they are saying early that it is a new era for tickets.

As far as the TMZ KC thing... wouldn't KC be covered by the disclaimer about watch for flying objects like bats and balls?

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 11:47 AM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 2

Reposting this as Rick has made a new thread...

I think you are delusional if you believe the Metropolitan Club will NOT be crowded at Target Field (especially this season). Do the math. 20K+ have the "opportunity" to patronize the MC. What can the capacity possibly be? 2K? 1K? Less? This is really no big deal and people will find this out fast. The only "uber" exclusive spot in the entire ballpark is the Champions Club. And rightfully so with the all-inclusive food/beverage/valet.

I've got 2 exhibition (4-2) tickets, if people are still looking let me know.

Also, just an FYI for the beer guzzlers. Surly mentioned on their Twitter feed the other day that all of the draft lines have been spoken for at Target Field this year. They still may offer cans of Surly, but the price is determined by the Twins/Delaware North ($10/can, not sure of size). Would people pay that to drink Surly instead of Anheuser-Busch products?

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 11:51 AM by Max Highlight this comment 3

Since my posts were at the bottom of the last entry, I'll reiterate info gleaned from the Twins' Twitter feed re: the Gopher baseball game on 3/27. Game is at 1pm. Box office opens at 8 am and gates open at 9am. TF stays open until 5pm that day, and they are capping tix at 25,000. Cost is just $2, no presales.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 11:59 AM by fiesta Highlight this comment 4

Great new post Rick. You do a tremendous job on the site and it is very much appreciated by your loyal readers. I noticed the doors into the ballpark as you approach from the A Ramp. Are those a direct entrance into the Club Level? Reminds me of the entrance to Petco Park in San Diego from the Omni Hotel.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 12:00 PM by Max Highlight this comment 5

Max, I think the Surly Twitter feed responded to someone asking about the draft lines, but Surly said that they were all spoken for, at least for a few years. That's why TF would serve 16oz cans.

As far as paying $10 for a can of Furious, the only way I'd do that is if Target Field was located way out in the boonies, and that would be the only chance of getting a good beer all day. But, there are plenty of other places around TF to get a good beer before or after the game, so the $10 is a ridiculous price. People would be more willing to pay $8(still outrageous) and the profit is still there.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 12:01 PM by Chad Highlight this comment 6

"You can make sure that some drizzle at Target Field won't make you melt..."

Ha. First time I've heard that commercial on KQ.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 12:06 PM by Chad Highlight this comment 7

Have they released beer prices yet? They were all $6.75 in the Dome I believe.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 12:06 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 8

I haven't been through those doors yet, but I was told that there's a little lobby there with access to an elevator to get down to the street (required by law).

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 12:07 PM by Rick 9

YES!! I would pay $10 bucks a can!! Great beer. For the most part, I don't drink a lot of beer at games, but when I do, I want a good quality beer. They are 16 oz cans. $10 for a Surly is a lot better the $7.00 bucks for a bud or miller.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 12:15 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 10

As to the KC guy, I wondered about the ticket disclaimer as well. You can bet that, if they don't already cover that, lawyers are busy revising them at this very minute.

But I've often wondered if those disclaimers would really be enforceable if someone were truly, seriously injured. (I know that teams have made them stick so far, even within recent memory.)

But if you run a business that puts customers into a situation that is inherently dangerous, I think a case could be made that a simple disclaimer is not sufficient to absolve you of all responsibility.

If there were things you could do to protect the customers but didn't do (say, extending the screen), you'd be on the hook for the injury, disclaimer or no.

Of course, you cannot screen a rogue mascot with a broken wiener gun.

(I can't believe I just wrote that sentence.)

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 12:15 PM by Rick 11

Weren't the beers at the Dome 20oz?

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 12:16 PM by Chad Highlight this comment 12

Oh, and I'm sure the Metropolitan Club has a maximum occupancy, per the fire department. 20,000 people may be eligible for entry, but I bet that no more than a few hundred can be in there at any given time.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 12:18 PM by Rick 13

(I have a hunch that some people will want to watch the game from their actual seats. Just a hunch.)

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 12:20 PM by Rick 14

Update on the 3/27 Gopher game -

I spoke to the season ticket department to get clearification on the 3/27 Gophers game - just to be clear, season ticket holder will NOT have any opportunity to buy tickets other than at the Target Field Box office on 3/27 itself.

The one exception is for Legends Club owners (who will presumably have an opportunity to get tickets, since the contract says "all baseball related events"). They don't have details on that, but we will get a mailing or email soon.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 12:46 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 15

The Strib says at the end of the Weiner article about the exhibition game for the Gophs: "Tickets will be general admission only and cost $2. Proceeds will benefit the Minnesota Twins Community Fund. Tickets can only be bought the day of the game at all Target Field ticket office locations starting at 8 a.m".

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 12:51 PM by DeePee Highlight this comment 16

It's sad btw that there will be no more Weiner Winners.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 12:52 PM by DeePee Highlight this comment 17

Why would you pay $10 a beer with plenty of bars a block away? There's gotta be a decent selection at Hooters, and I know the Shouthouse has Guinness on tap. Yum

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 1:05 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 18

My permanent exclusion from the Hormel Row Of Fame will cost me zero sleep.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 1:06 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 19

Both Luce and 508 have a few Surly beers on tap.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 1:08 PM by Chad Highlight this comment 20

Funny that the guy on the video said tickets were discounted 75% when they are 75% of regular price.
Legends Club is also exclusive (though maybe not "uber" like Champs Club). Just the ticket is required for entrance, whether a member or not. Likewise a member can't get in if they are using other tickets for a particular game. That's been a consistent message as far as I know, whereas the Metropolitan Club rules were uncertain, at least until recently.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 1:14 PM by robin Highlight this comment 21

I brought that up in the previous post Jimmer. Why not hit up happy hour pricing over on 1st Ave/Hennepin instead of buying $7/8 beers in the Met Club/Hrbek's. I'm sure I'll go a couple times and check it out, but I would rather get a better buzz for my buck.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 1:20 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 22

Hrbek's beer pricing before games might not necessarily be as high as a regular concession stand. I went to Lambeau in 2008 for the Viking game, and the beer at Curly's pub was like 4.something for a Leinie's tapper. I'd expect similar at Hrbek's.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 1:28 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 23

it appears from Webcam 1 there is some sort of sign going up over the pro-shop wing of the ballpark.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 1:40 PM by Dan Highlight this comment 24

When does the pro shop at Target Field open up?

K

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 1:44 PM by Kramer Highlight this comment 25

Oh, the proshop sign reminds me... Yesterday I saw that they put the US Bank and Treasure Island ads up on either side of the jumbotron. We still don't know who the last major sponsor is do we?

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 1:52 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 26

Jimmer - Your're not at the game if you are at a bar...

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 1:52 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 27

Also, Hopefully Hooters is closing. The owner of the building is taking them to court for over $350,000 in unpaid rent and taxes. Hopefully get that out of there and get a new bar/resturant in there...

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 1:58 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 28

trosy, Curly's Pub is inside Lambeau Field... Hrbek's is basically our version of this. And why on Earth would you hope Hooters closes? What better than Hooters, beer and great wings?

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:02 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 29

Best Buy and Fox North are the other Big Screen signage sponsors.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:10 PM by Brandon T Highlight this comment 30

Jimmer,

"great wings" ?!?!? NO WAY! The only thing I used to like at Hooters was the "service" but that was back in college. Any time I have a coworker insist on going I get a burger or chicken sandwich.

BTW - we call it "Quarters" so the female coworkers don't get slightly offended and we need quarters for the meters. :)

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:11 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 31

Fox North is the one I didn't know about. I was second guessing if there would end up being a giant bullseye up there.

Do we know what's going on the Trap sign?

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:12 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 32

The Strip Cheese sandwich is pretty good too, but their fries are terrible. I love their wing sauce though

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:13 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 33

That Hooters ownership group is being taken to court, but the landlord made it expressly clear that they don't want to evict them. I think it will be a Hooters for sometime, especially since they will start raking in the cash once TF opens. Proximity, cheap food, and decent price drinks. They'll do well.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:15 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 34

I wouldn't be surprised if the triangle sign isn't a Target sign. An absolute BOMB would be able to hit it I would think. Unrelated note, are they still putting in the planter boxes over the wall in that area? Remember it from the model.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:17 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 35

Less than a month until the open houses... This winter, with all the excitement coming, has seemed a lot longer than most...

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:20 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 36

Menu lists are now available for each concession. Click my name. Just click on each logo and then view menu.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:22 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 37

The words "Hooters" and "great wings" should never be allowed in the same sentence.... unless of course there's also a "does not have" in between there.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:25 PM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 38

Jimmer, I know, but in post 18 you said why would I pay $10 bucks for a beer when there are bars blocks away. If I was at one of those bars, I wouldn't be at the game. If I was at Hrbek's I would be paying $10 bucks for a Surly. I would rather buy a Surly for $10 from a vendor and sit in my seat and watch the game.

Hooters has horrible food and horrible service.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:28 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 39

Yo Yo Yo suckas! Sorry I've been away for a while, but I wanted to make sure and announce the OPENING DAY BBQ is ON!!!

It will be held at the lawn at the Herschel Lofts (my place), 3 blocks from Target Field. The Loop Bar and Restaurant are sponsoring and will have food available if you decide not to bring your own. We'll have jerseys, tees, caps and prizes to win for the best Twins fan outfit. Festivities will start at 11 AM till 2PM... I'll make sure to drop more info soon.

All ninjas welcome.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:28 PM by OG Jeff Highlight this comment 40

Man, maybe I'm just being picky, but I wish that State Fair Classics stand had Pronto Pups instead of corn dogs. I find myself yearning for those all the time.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:29 PM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 41

What is Surly anyways? Something local? I'm from up North and have never heard of it... Know any downtown bars that would have a German Hefe on tap?

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:34 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 42

Jimmer,

Click link. They are out of Brooklyn Park in MN. GREAT Microbrewery. I am a HUGE IPA fan and their "Furious" is awesome.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:36 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 43

What would they most likely have at TF? I like Pale Ale's but IPA is a little too hoppy for me.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:44 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 44

Summit Pale Ale will most likely be there.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:45 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 45

Here's your spot for German beer.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:46 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 46

Ok, I've had the Hacker-Pschorr... Pretty good. My all time favorite I had on tap in NYC in 2008 was (sp?) Weihenstephaner Weissebier. Best beer ever.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:48 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 47

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/252/731/

You know its good when the bros on BeerAdvocate gave it an A+

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 2:52 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 48

Jimmer,

*shakes head*

I pity you, if you think Hooters has great food, or great anything.

I really do.

That place needs a little help from the trinitrotoluene box, along with the rest of that sorry worse-than-a-mall structure.

And if it takes out the shitstack as well, even better.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 3:21 PM by David (aka David) Highlight this comment 49

In regards to the question about TF signage... I haven't heard what the "trap" sign will have, but in the MLB The Show clips and photos it has been State Farm.

I am in Advertising, so here is a question for you gamers on this blog, (because I don't know the answer) Can companies buy ad space in stadiums just for the game? Or do game designers put in what is already there.

As I write this I am remembering seeing something in place of the Budweiser sign on the roof deck in one of the game previews.

Anyone know anything about this?

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 3:23 PM by Brandon T Highlight this comment 50

Gleuk's is good, and near the ballpark to boot, but I prefer Lyons. Just quieter place most of the time. Nice little place, plus their selection of German beers is better if I remember correctly.

Never got Surly. I've got friends who go on and on about it, but it's just not my thing. Give me some Guinness or a Paulaner hefeweizen any time.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 3:35 PM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 51

Developers make their own advertising deals. It has actually become a huge market, as advertisers are looking for ways to sneak ads in anywhere they can. The ads shown in TF in the game are likely national companies that the developers have struck up independant deals with. You can pretty much bet that the trap sign won't be State Farm.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 3:38 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 52

Isn't Gluek's also a cheap MN beer? They have their own bar downtown? I had a case of Gluek's golden light over Xmas break. Not bad for cheap stuff.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 3:39 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 53

yeah, Gluek's is brewed in Cold Spring. Originally from NE Mpls, it was sold, and then re-esatblished up north a ways.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 3:56 PM by some guy Highlight this comment 54

I know it's a pipe dream, but how cool would it be to see the old Hamm's waterfall ad up on the "trap" sign?

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 4:05 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 55

The "trap" sign is that one above the trapezoid section in the outfield. The sign itself is also a trapezoid!

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 4:10 PM by Rick 56

Fred,

I think that every time I drive over the river and see the old sign that needs SO much work. I think it was supposed to move back in one set of plans.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 4:13 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 57

Can't believe this hasn't been posted here yet. The DOME DOG is officially DEAD!

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 4:32 PM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 58

I for one won't miss Hormel as the hot dog people for TF.
And, I hope they discontinue the practice of pre-cooking the hot dogs before game time, slap some tin wax paper over it and stick it in a warmer for the next 3 hours. Alot of the new places have dumped the pre-cook...so TF better keep that tradition going.

I see there's continuing conversation about the beer. How about Schell's beer? That's a local one isn't it? A friend of mine gave me a couple bottles a while back and I thought it was the best beer I'd ever had.

PS thank you Rick for the info about the Open House for the "rest of the rabble" on the 21st. I didn't realize they were going to charge for it. Good to know.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 4:36 PM by luke Highlight this comment 59

luke you should drink more beer then. Anybody ever had St Bernardus? I had my first one in Brugge, Belgium. Now that was literally the best beer I've ever had, or probably ever will again. You can buy it here but it's not as good.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 4:41 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 60

Hello ballpark faithful,

I've been following you guys almost daily for the last year and a half and thought I would finally join in on the skulduggery.

As for Schell's beer.. I think it is a MUST HAVE at TF. I think we will se it represented in the "beers of twins territory" stall for certain. As well as the True Minnesota beer tradition goes, I would love to see Grain Belt represented throughout the ballpark along with the other obvious lager choice Budweiser per obvious contractual obligation.

Cheers to Rick for doing such a brilliant job on the site.. it's something I look forward to everyday! Keep up the banter rubes!!

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 4:49 PM by tmoe Highlight this comment 61

Guiness is ok. I prefer Murphys though.

If anyone has a chance to try Founders it's interesting. Wish we could get New Glarus here.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 4:50 PM by moda253 Highlight this comment 62

What are they going to replace the "dome dog" with?? And what are they going to call it?!

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 4:51 PM by tmoe Highlight this comment 63

Two Hearted Ale from Bell's is my fav...

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 4:52 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 64

Perhaps the "Dome Dog" will be replaced by the "Field Frank".

Or maybe just the good old American "Hot Dog".

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 4:59 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 65

I'll weigh in on the beer discussion. Even though it's made in Wisconsin and can only be bought there, I love Spotted Cow!

In addition to being a HUGE baseball fan, I'm also a weather geek. 60 day outlook for Minnesota is near normal temps and precip. Whatever normal means, right?

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 5:05 PM by Ole Highlight this comment 66

Two-Hearted Ale (and Hop Slam, when it's available) are my favorites. Rush River Brewery in River Falls, WI also has a terrific "Bubblejack" IPA. Surly's always good as well. It'll be nice not to have to travel half-way around the park to find a decent beer. /amateurbeersnob

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 5:17 PM by AndyG Highlight this comment 67

lift bridge brewery (out of stillwater, mn) and their "farm girl saison" is a very good belgian-style microbrew. highly recommend giving it a try.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 5:55 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 68

AndyG - BubbleJack is a good IPA as well. Who brews Hop Slam? I must try it. If you ever get a chance, pick up some IPA's from Midnight Sun, a microbrew from Alaska. They put out some killer IPA's...

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 6:11 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 69

Maybe they will have a Samual Smith oatmeal stout?? that sounds like a nice beer for a hot baseball game or how about a sam adams triple bock??

I love good beer but i have never heard of some o these you guys talk about but bring it on!!!

see you at the BBQ HNIC (Head Ninja In Charge)

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 7:09 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 70

I don't drink much since the stroke thing so I'm all about the Diet Pepsi! I can't believe I'm so excited to get Pepsi products! YAY!!!!

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 8:07 PM by Jax Highlight this comment 71

Back in the early 70's, after bailing Hay we used to have a beer called "Twins Lager". (Dalbo MN). I've never seen it anywhere since.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 8:28 PM by hans Highlight this comment 72

Also, Schells Pilsner is an excelent Beer

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 8:29 PM by hans Highlight this comment 73

Much agreed Hans. Schell's Firebrick is also good.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 9:00 PM by luke Highlight this comment 74

schells lakemaid is not bad, i just tried it, can't go wrong with summit epa though

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 9:08 PM by dirwin7 Highlight this comment 75

I'm planning on parking on the Hiawatha and riding in for the home opener, with a stop at Gluek's on the way. That seems the best way to get in for me, easier parking outside of downtown, short ride, and a bar right outside of the Puckett gate.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 9:24 PM by Sass Highlight this comment 76

if you Twitter, a quite entertaining real OzzieGuillen now has an account.

OT: so does ConanObrien. (He already has over 100K more followers after one tweet than Leno's show does after 500.) but i digress...

Does anyone know if there is an ice cream brand being sold at TF? I have my priorities.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 9:32 PM by Jax Highlight this comment 77

*belch* I'm drunk from reading this board tonight

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 9:37 PM by kevin in az Highlight this comment 78

Jax - you bring up an interesting topic regarding ice cream. The Twins had their deal with Kemps until last year when they signed on with Blue Bunny

That really makes you wonder where Dairy Queen stands in this picture as they have been a strong corporate partner with the Twins.

It would be nice to have a small Dairy Queen concession in Target Field to grab a blizzard treat on one of those hot summer days/evenings.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 9:57 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 79

It would absolutely make my parents' day if the Twins announced a relationship with Schweigert for hot dogs like they had at the Met. My parents can still sing the theme song from the era and do regularly.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 10:00 PM by jpberka Highlight this comment 80

jpberka--any audio of the theme song out there that you know of? Must say, I'm a fan of the row of fame jingle...what to replace it now?

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 10:03 PM by fiesta Highlight this comment 81

I'd love to see Omar & Todd come up with a Surly specifically for Target Field. Lord knows they love experimenting and coming up with new brews, so it would seem like something they'd enjoy doing. In the meantime, if they have Bender and/or Coffee Bender at the park, I'll be wearing out a path from my seat to the stand that carries it.

On a side note, they're just starting up and so I'm sure they don't have the capacity to make it work yet, but if Fulton can get into TF with Sweet Child of Vine, that would make me happy as well.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 10:05 PM by Natron (aka Jax) Highlight this comment 82

I honestly haven't seen it online no.

Another neighborhood bar option is the brand new Kieran's moving into Block E. Very nice option!

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 10:09 PM by jpberka Highlight this comment 83

I know it has been talked about alot on here, but how do we know there will be an open house for the public on March 20th? (or 21st?) Thanks

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 10:09 PM by BB Highlight this comment 84

Yes, Kieran's will be a great addition to the neighborhood! They know how to pour a pint!

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 10:19 PM by fiesta Highlight this comment 85

Please join "1,000,000 Twins Fans who want the Dome Dog Back" on Facebook

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 10:23 PM by dekaplan Highlight this comment 86

Kieran's is moving to Block E on 3/16, so it will be open in time for the Open House dates and the Gopher game. Also, they're donating a portion of proceeds to Make-A-Wish until 3/31, so it might not be a bad place to check out during a trip to the park.

On a side note, Make-A-Wish is also the beneficiary of the country's greatest charity wiffleball tournament that's held in August in Hopkins. We would like to have held it at Target Field, but after the Twins got done laughing their rear ends off, they said no.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 10:27 PM by Natron (aka Jax) Highlight this comment 87

Do 1,000,000 people want the dome dog back? I'm not sure that's the case. Or do they want the name dome dog, but not the dome dog? It was really nothing special.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 10:35 PM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 88

p.s. How "popular" was the dome dog on Wed. nights when everyone and their uncle ordered a "dome dog" because they thought it was $1? No one knew if they were getting a dome dog or a 10 cent hot dog. It was clever naming and that's it.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 10:36 PM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 89

There may be nostalgic things about the dome I may miss...maybe not. But the dome dog surely is not one of them.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 10:39 PM by Jax Highlight this comment 90

Oh man, I can't believe I missed the beer conversation. I want to get my two cents in on IPA's. I can't believe no one mentioned Bells Two Hearted Ale (or any Bells beers for that matter). Located in the UP, they are one of the best breweries in the midwest. And Trosy, I have spent a lot of time in Alaska, and guzzled a lot of Midnight Sun Beers! Although my favorite brewery up there is out of Anchorage-- The Moose's Tooth. They have the best beer and the best pizza in the state!

I also like Avery out of Colorado, and Red Hook out of Washington. My friend recently had a wedding in Seattle and the reception was at the Red Hook brewery. All the Red Hook we could drink!

Next time you're up here in Duluth, try the Brewhouse in the old Fitger's Brewery. Better yet, head over to the Thirsty Pagan in Superior--come see how us roof-loving outstate fans do beer;)

Ok, I'm done. I just get really excited talking about beer.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 10:48 PM by TimInDuluth Highlight this comment 91

JC Twins - you make a good point in that how "popular" was the Dome Dog really? As you said, it was more the name than anything. Are people (your casual fan/media) assuming the "Dome Dog" was the same as the "hot dog?"

"Dome dogs" were $5 (not sure on exact price) and included a small bag of chips and were slightly larger than the "hot dogs." They were also "cooked" on those rollers on the concession counter.

"Hot Dogs" on the other hand were $3.50 or so and were boiled/steamed prior to the game and than wrapped up and stored in warmers underneath the concession counter.

Essentially the only difference was you were paying an extra $1.50 or so for a small bag of Old Dutch potato chips when purchasing a "Dome Dog."

This is going to be another example of the Twins needing to re-educate the casual fan/public/media...because some of these people are under the impression that there will be no hot dogs what-so-ever at Target Field.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 10:48 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 92

Oh, and just so we're clear I am not a roof lover. That was a joke.

also Stone Arrogant Bastard out of San Diego is delicious. I'm gonna plug East Lake Liquor in Mpls for there great selection and Warehouse liquor in Duluth (best selection in Minnesota)

Sorry for the double post. I'm done!

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 10:50 PM by TimInDuluth Highlight this comment 93

There has already been a lot of complaining and general angst over the end of the Twins' relationship with Hormel and end of the Dome Dog, but I'm going to say what I think people have largely been in denial of or oblivious to.

The Dome Dog was a marginal to okay hot dog that never lived up to the hype.

I always thought that it ended up being incredibly overrated by local fans due to its cute name, the fact that it was bigger and admittedly more flavorful than the lame regular hot dogs at the Dome, and people just not having had a chance to try some of the vastly superior hot dogs featured in other MLB parks with both Chicago parks and Detroit coming to mind for starters.

I won't mourn the Dome Dog's passing and hope that its replacement has quality that actually deserves the love and praise that the Dome Dog has undeservedly attained in my opinion.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 10:52 PM by Jorge Highlight this comment 94

They haven't torn down the Dome yet, it's still not too late for the Twins to move back there so some fans can get their beloved Dome Dogs! :-)

No "Dome Dog" at TF? awww shoot, I guess I'll just have to endure beautiful summer days outside at TF and have a "Dome Dog"- shaped-void in my gut...

(I did like Dome Dogs, but it's just a hot dog...)

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 11:14 PM by Dan Highlight this comment 95

If it weren't for Chuck Knoblach - the Dome Dog would be nothing

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 11:31 PM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 96

clublevelfan - can you explain the Knoblach / Dome Dog reference? I don't recall that ...

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 11:45 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 97

Allow me. I was there. Sitting behind the Twins bullpen with a perfect view of everything. May 2, 2001. Here's the report I wrote for my web site at the time:

It was widely reported, and it's true, that former Twin Chuck Knoblauch had some stuff thrown at him. Must have been pennies and such because we couldn't see anything (until the hot dog).

Kevin and I got the best seats available, and they turned out to be in the lower deck a long way down the third base line, right by the Twins' bullpen (section 136). This is the part of the stadium where the seats actually face out toward center field. You must crane in order to see the infield. But it did mean that we had a great view of the rowdiness in the lower deck GA seats. And they were rowdy, but nowhere near what was reported.

It was a bad idea, to be sure. Offer deep discounts for student tickets, sell a lot of cheap beer and hot dogs for $1, and put an unpopular former Twin near the sea of drunken college kids. No one should have been surprised that a hot dog ended up out in left field.

But let's put this in perspective: According to a newspaper report the next day, there were 41,000 hot dogs sold at $1 apiece and exactly ONE ended up out on the field. That was not a reason to stop the game, and certainly not a reason for the Twins to forfeit the game.

The forfeit might not have even been an issue if Metrodome announcer Bob Casey hadn't mentioned it. He seemed to genuinely overreact to the situation, pleading with the fans to calm down, and it just made things worse.

Of course, as soon as he mentioned the word "forfeit", a few Yankees' fans in the crowd got an idea. There's no doubt that the last round of debris thrown on the field (during the second game delay) was launched by a hopeful Yankee fan in the upper deck behind us. Twins fans up there were ready to kill.

This, however, did not get reported, and that's probably for the best. It might have seemed like sour grapes after the way the sports media jumped all over the story.


Tom Kelly, gentle giant that he is, did his part in trying to keep the crowd quiet. He walked out into left field (right in front of us) and gestured for the crowd to settle down. Then, to the strains of some organ noodling, walked over to Knoblauch, talked for a bit, patted him on the ass, and headed back to the dugout. A very classy move, in a very embarrassing situation.

The Twins won the game, but it sure didn't feel like much of a victory.

It was amazing to watch, and embarrassing to be a Twins fan that night, and the Twins didn't win another game from the Yankees for a long time after that. Nobody ever blamed the losing streak on what happened that night, but I always thought the two were connected.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 12:05 AM by Rick 98

I always got a dome dog, big meal for 5 bucks (with the chips). As far as the hot dog name debate goes, I sent the Twins an email a while back suggesting that they name the new dog "Homer Frankies"; horrible, I know, but I thought it fit the history of the team well. I hope it's something different, because you can get a hot dog anywhere, but you can only get "Dodger Dogs" and "Fenway Franks" at a certain ballpark.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 02:27 AM by James Highlight this comment 99

I mentioned this in about 2006 on this site, but as far as hot dogs go, I like the Cloverdale hot dog. I could never stand the smell of Dome Dogs loaded up with onions and relish...it reaked all over the dome and would smell like the guy next to you hasn't showered in a week. The Seattle Mariners did a search for the best hot dog in America when they opened Safeco, and Cloverdale(Mandan, ND) won (the fans love them as their own). I think it is embarassing to see the Seattle Mariners jersey on display(got it when they signed the contract) deep in Twins Territory. They are the only dogs I eat...Hickory Smoked or sweaty arm-pits, you decide!

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 04:49 AM by Tom, OG Highlight this comment 100

Someone seemed to allude to the DomeDog on the $1 Wednesdays. It wasn't the Dome Dog for $1, it was one of the tin-foil wrapped dogs for $1, wasn't it?

Rick, when the Knoblauch thing happened, did they have a limit on the number of hot dogs you could get for $1? I seem to remember that incident caused the Twins to put a limit of 2 hot dogs for $1, then any after that were regular stand price.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 06:50 AM by luke Highlight this comment 101

I hope to see Nathan's or Hebrew National at TF. Those are great hot dogs...

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 07:20 AM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 102

Vienna Beef, the hot dogs used in Chicago-style dogs, are very good too.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 08:17 AM by Dan Highlight this comment 103

TimInDuluth-
One small nitpicking correction: Bell's is brewed in Kalamazoo, not in the UP. Not much else left to cheer about in Kalamazoo with the auto industry in the shape it's in, so I need to give them their props when I can. And Kalamazoo is far from the UP, about an hour from Indiana actually.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 08:32 AM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 104

People only liked the Dome Dog because of the toppings. you could insert any random-brand hot dog in there and they wouldn't know the difference.

Just because Hormel is gone, doesn't mean the concept of a loaded hot dog will be gone, too.

My recommendation is to sell a tasty frank and provide a hot dog bar. Fans can then load them up with whatever fixings they want. If they just want ketchup/mustard, sell it at a cheaper price.

But a hot dog bar is the way to go.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 08:35 AM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 105

I don't know if anybody saw this, but one of the local news stations ran a story on Miguel Sano. They followed him around down in the DR where he is working out at our complex. I was at a bar so there was no audio. Anybody have a recap?

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 08:48 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 106

Beer = tasty as long as its ice cold. Especially sitting outside watching a baseball game!

Hot Dogs sold at the Dome. I worked the concession stands as a fundraiser a few times. The last few years there were actually 5 different hot dogs sold. Three were hormel and I don't remember the brand on the other two but I think they were sweigert (sp?).

$1 dogs on Wednesdays were 1/6 lb hormel
regualr dogs were 1/5 lb hormel
Dome Dogs were 1/4 lb hormel

The other two were at the Brat & Brew stand for the chicago dogs. one was 1/5 lb and the other was 1 lb foot long.

Funny that most people didn't realize there were so many options.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 09:01 AM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 107

Hate to interrup the beer and hot dog talk, but has anyone done any analysis on where the big home runs might land at TF? Due to small footprint I would think big bombs will make for some good chatter. Parts of the plaza seems to be in play which will make BP interesting, but is the bronze glove reachable? Roof of the B ramp? video board? Minnie or Paul? Party deck on a long foul? Has this been looked at and I missed it?

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 09:13 AM by 21 Highlight this comment 108

I was wondering the same thing, 21. I asked the question in a previous thread but didn't see an answer...

What are the distances (from home plate) to these certain points in the outfield?

Roofdeck
5th St
Scoreboard
Celebration sign
Trap sign
Puckett gates

I just want to know if someone has an educated guess, especially those that have taken tours or have been up close.

TIA

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 09:31 AM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 109

Scoreboard is for sure un-hittable. A ball with that arc would be probably in the range of 550-600 feet. And I think that the maximum distance a ball can travel is somewhere in the 550 range right? I think that the trap sign is probably hittable, as I brought up yesterday. A lot of balls will be hit into the plaza. It is probably only about 360 feet to the last row of the bleachers in right, and with all of our lefties who can pull, you can definitely expect to see balls rolling down the plaza towards 1st ave. You will probably see a lot of balls foul off of the face of the admin building glass, but to the top of the Bud Deck would be too far IMO.

Minnie and Paul could be hit, but that would be an absolute BOMB. I bet you do see balls hit into that little section below it, but I don't know.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 09:40 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 110

Which brings up something my friends and I were discussing last night...what was the longest homer in the dome? My one friend says it was Mo Vaugh when he hit one into Kirby's face on the curtain. Nobody ever went upper deck to left right? That would be LOOOOONGGGGGGGG.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 09:41 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 111

DVS -

I might be wrong, but I thought Jose Canseco hit the longest homerun ever in the dome....

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 09:59 AM by Fred Highlight this comment 112

McGwire hit a bomb that hit the ads below the suites in left field once in '98 I think.

Rounding out the hot dog debate: Dome dogs had no toppings, and hopefully with new dogs comes good mustard!

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 10:02 AM by fiesta Highlight this comment 113

Check that...I might be thinking of a blast at Jacobs Field to deep left. I'm so confused.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 10:03 AM by fiesta Highlight this comment 114

Approximations are quite easy using Google Earth.

Roofdeck -- 345
5th St -- 514 to 594 (middle of street)
Scoreboard -- 457
Celebration sign -- 440
Trap sign -- 400
Puckett gates -- 430-ish

These are all horizontal distances only, of course. Elevation is not considered.

I think it's almost impossible to land a ball on Fifth Street because of how tall and close the park is to its edge. Anything which happens to get out on that side would probably cross over Fifth completely and land in the parking lot beyond.

The site plan does not show the final location of the Puckett gate, so it could be 10 or 15 feet either direction.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 10:04 AM by Rick 115

Talking about long homers in the dome... A few years back I remember someone (Frank Thomas? David Ortiz?) hit a BOMB that would have hit the Kirby banner in the face but it hit a speaker and dropped in center field instead. Longest single I have ever seen hit. :) If that ball was in TF I definitely think it would hit the M&P Sign.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 10:05 AM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 116

I'm assuming that everybody here is familiar with Hit Tracker Online.

It's a great site, dedicated to gathering and/or estimating the length of every single home run in the major leagues. Here, for example, is a diagram of last season's Metrodome home runs.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 10:08 AM by Rick 117

I can't find the longest ever HR, but Hrbek's bio on MLB.com states he hit the longest ever HR to center in 1993 (467ft).

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 10:09 AM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 118

The ball off of the speaker was Ortiz a few years ago. Those Google distances do help, but with the exception of maybe the Puckett gate the elevation makes them difficult. If the scoreboard is 457 feet from home, then it cements it as being un-hittable. It is another 70-80 feet up in the air from the wall. The arc of the ball would probably have to be about 650 feet total I would think. Someone should go out there with a golf range finder that builds in elevation. That would be pretty fun.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 10:14 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 119

trosy29,

Bell's brews Hop Slam in limited batches. It's pretty pricey (15 bucks a six pack), strong (10% ABV), but well worth it. I picked some up about a month ago at a store on Grand in St. Paul, but I'm not sure if there's any left around here.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 10:19 AM by AndyG Highlight this comment 120

Any discussion of hot dogs should start and end with Vienna Beef. Simply no other.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 10:24 AM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 121

I saw a Bo Jackson homerun circa 1988 that nearly hit the back wall in the upper deck in right. Just crushed it.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 10:27 AM by some guy Highlight this comment 122

Here's the "Twins brew" mentioned in comment 72.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 10:57 AM by Elston Gunn Highlight this comment 123

Check out Rick's Hit Tracker link for the Metrodome page for 4/15/09. Baker needed some ice on his neck that day, eh?

For those keeping score at home, another tally for Bell's Two Hearted Ale, Surly Furious, Fitger's Big Boat Oatmeal Stout, and Summit Extra Pale Ale. Hot dog? Whatever the vendor has in that cart he brings to my row, mustard only. Not about to miss a pitch. Pass the sunscreen.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 11:30 AM by schweady Highlight this comment 124

Still hoping someone has a lead on a TF seating map showing individual seat and row numbers. I know it's obsessive, and a long shot, but that's just me.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 11:30 AM by schweady Highlight this comment 125

A little more ammunition to shoot at the pro-roof crowd:

At 4 rain-outs per season, there is a 4% chance any particular game will not be played. That is equal to the probability that Nick Punto will hit an extra base hit in any particular at bat (according to 2009 stats).

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 11:32 AM by ajndsu Highlight this comment 126

schweady,

I don't think such a thing exists yet, outside of the architect's office. They didn't even know an actual seat count until a couple of weeks ago!

If we don't see one by mid-season, we'll just have to create one ourselves.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 11:33 AM by Rick 127

Look what the Dome has done to us! Casually discussing the fact that one of the longest home runs in Twins history hit a SPEAKER and ended up as a SINGLE. And there is no outrage. It is just an accepted fact of baseball to an under-40 Twins fan. THAT, in a nutshell, is why we needed Target Field so desperately!!!

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 11:40 AM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 128

A buddy and I were talking home run distances a while back and i actually did some of the math on some generic areas and I believe I posted some of the results on here. I don't remember numbers specifically but general areas I do remember are that:

The Puckett Gate is definately flyable. This makes the bronze glove in play as well. Theoretically if it had enough run and no one touches it, it could make it all the way down the plaza to the Target Center. I believe I did pose the question if a ball were hit, could it end up in the plaza gap and on 394? I think we came up with a very slim chance because it was partially blocked by the Met club and some of the other plaza features so it would have to have a perfect flight. Also, provided no one catches the ball, it could bounce over the Puckett Gate pretty easily.

The Trap Ad Sign was hittable up to like halfway up or something like that but that was closest to the plaza side.

The lower portion would be hittable with a flight path similar to one pulled down the line, but since it is straight away center it is out of range.

The scoreboard is out of range.

An theoretically you could get one out to 5th as Rick mentioned, but its gotta find that perfect path into the gap between the admin building and the seats. I think if you are cutting the corner that much, the curve on the path is enough to bring it right into the admin building and skip off.

Will be interesting to see balls potentially TKO portions of the wind veil. LOL.

I cant remember much else about it though. I wanted to add too, that I watched a few Boston games a few years ago in which David Ortiz was easily hitting halfway up the Puckett banner and Central Division Champs Banner at the Dome during BP. Granted it was BP, but given a fastball and good connection, that could easily have gone farther. In one of the last few home games last season, didn't Mauer have a bomb to Right Center that ended up in the upper deck a long ways back? I remember watching one (don't remember if it was mauer) and just saying to myself that was one hell of a solid hit. Then I saw it reach the upper deck...

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 11:52 AM by Jared Highlight this comment 129

**correction** - it should read as...

The lower portion of the Celebration Sign would be hittable with a flight path similar to one pulled down the line, but since it is straight away center and is harder to hit such a shot, it is most likely out of range.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 11:59 AM by Jared Highlight this comment 130

Jose Canseco once hit one in the left field porch that was over 500 ft, if I recall correctly. Went about 2/3s the way up the lower deck...

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 11:59 AM by AndyG Highlight this comment 131

If you think about that "perfect path" concept, it is sort of like the ONE time a ball went into a hole in the dome roof. It's possible, but it took almost 30 years to happen once or maybe twice?

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 12:13 PM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 132

All of this hot dog talk and what do you know...I end up eating Walking Dog for lunch. Vienna Beef is delicious though.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 12:38 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 133

great place to get a Chicago dog in town is at Uncle Franky's in NE Mpls on Broadway, heading east of University and just before Central, as well as a great Italian Beef. The challenge is understanding what the cook is saying when he calls your order. it is very "Billy Goat's Tavern"-like. ("Cheesborger, Cheesborger...")

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 1:14 PM by Dan Highlight this comment 134

I'm actually from Illinois and then best Chicago Italian beef I've found around here was a place off of Hiawatha in south Minneapolis. Can't remember the name though. Walking Dog has pretty good Chicago Dogs.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 1:17 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 135

It is sad in a way, Hormel has been very good for the Twins. The new dog will be supplied by whoever is willing to stuff the most money into the team's collective pockets. Quality is not an issue, or at least not as large a consideration as the typical fan would think. There is no loyalty - it's all about "What have you done for me lately" or "What are you going to do for me next" - just business. With the new park the Twins are in an entirely different position control-wise. What we will see in the next year or two will be akin to a shakedown cruise. There will be a ton of changes to how things are between OD 2010 and OD 2012, especially if Mauer gets away. The other day, in a private message to me, Rick wrote: " --- the Twins have shown themselves to be big buddies with people who can help them in some way. After that, they have pretty short memories." - you are unlikely to find a truer statement than that.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 1:20 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 136

oh no! rick has identified the twins curse w/ the yankees! the curse of the DOME DOG!

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 1:27 PM by yeahklye Highlight this comment 137

the wienery on cedar (click name for link) has the best hot dogs in the city

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 1:29 PM by annoyingcustomer Highlight this comment 138

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 1:49 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 139

I think a perfect example of what Ben is talking about in his post, (#136), is I heard on KSTP 1500, that the hot dogs, (whatever brand), will no longer be free in the Press Box.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 2:09 PM by trebor651 Highlight this comment 140

Poor Sid!!!

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 2:23 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 141

Change isn't always bad. I for one look forward to the new food options at Target Field. I would rate the metrodome food options as subpar at best and the dome dog specifically as nothing special. I am willing to bet that your hot dog options at TF will be much improved over the lowly domedog. A year from now, 90% of fans won't even remember the domedog.

Moving the domedog to target field is like moving the turf and the roof there as well. Why? We are making a move for the better. Will everyone be happy, no, but then again, you can never please everyone. If we continue to spend 100 million on player payroll, I am all for no longer offering free food in the pressbox.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 2:40 PM by minn55441 Highlight this comment 142

No poor Patrick Reusse, he's consummed his share of hot dogs

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 2:44 PM by trebor651 Highlight this comment 143

The press corps will survive - how many of us get free food everyday at work?!?

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 2:51 PM by Ole Highlight this comment 144

Sorry for the double post, but check this guy out from the comments off the Twins website re: the Gopher game at Target Field:

"Sounds like horsesh*t. I spend $12K for Twins tickets and that isn't enough to get me in the building for the first game at Target Field? Way to take care of your fanbase St. Peter. And oh yeah, thanks for making me buy exhibition tickets. The only redeeming quality of those is that it would have been cool to be at the first Target Field game. I hope there's a foot of snow on March 27."

What a turd!!

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 2:55 PM by Ole Highlight this comment 145

Another comment about food options at TF.

A couple of years ago before MLB screwed up the interleague schedule and had the Twins playing in Milwaukee mid week instead of a weekend series that permits more Minnesotans to make the trip, the wife and I took Amtrak down, a great trip in my opinion.

Anyhow the wife went all out and got tickets in the Brewers Club level, the seats were great, but what I was most impressed with was the food, quality, choice etc. (not only in the Club level but out among the masses as well).

My point is that at the time Delaware North was the food vendor at Miller Park.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 2:56 PM by trebor651 Highlight this comment 146

Before everyone gets all indignant over the Twins "dumping" Hormel, don't forget that the Twins had no control over the concessions at the Dome. They are new to the concessions business and have to cultivate all new supply chains. Hopefully this is a sign that they are looking at overall quality as well as price, and not just signing up with all of the mediocre suppliers who just want to keep their gravy train going.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 3:08 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 147

You know, the lesson of the Dome Dog is that a catchy name goes a long way. I was shocked to learn that it only debuted in 2001. I thought it must have been there in some form since the beginning!

Over the past couple of years I've read a long series of books on human nature, and there are large studies which show that if you swap labels and packaging on two products, customer satisfaction stays with the name and appearance -- not the actual product.

For example, cheap beer becomes just as satisfying as the expensive stuff in surveys when it's packaged and labeled as if it actually were the better stuff.

Extend that a little bit and it means that people liked -- and remembered -- the Dome Dog because it sounded good and was easy to remember. Let's face it, a Dome Dog was a lot more fun to say than to eat.

So, how does that apply to Target Field hot dogs? Simple: The flavor matters a whole lot less than a catchy name.

If it were me, I'd pick a mid-priced product and call 'em Yard Dogs. (For more than a century, the land on which TF now sits was a rail yard.)

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 3:09 PM by Rick 148

I just really took some time to look at pics of Citi Field. Talk about ugly! Absolutely no cohesion of elements (at least inside the park). Just random decks and seating areas jutting out every which way. It's even more of a crime considering the amount of space they had to work with. It really makes me value what we (seem to) have here!

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 3:13 PM by ajndsu Highlight this comment 149

DVS2008 - the eatery you are referring to in south minneapolis just west of hiawatha ave (hwy 55) on 42nd street. it is called chris & rob's chicago taste authority. it was formerly called joey d's for a long time. the guys that own it now (both from chicago changed the name to reflect their first names).

i used to live in highland park over in st. paul (just across the ford bridge from south minneapolis) and have eaten there MANY times. i agree that their italian beef is some of the best i have ever had. their dogs, sausage and pizza are also very, very good.

they have also opened chris & rob's chicago taste authority locations in fridley (on east river road...just north of I-694) and in st. paul on west 7th street (about a mile west from the xcel energy center). they also deliver.

click on my name for a map of their locations.

considering all the talk about dogs, etc. i highly recommend this place to anyone looking for a good dog, italian beef, a maxwell street polish sausage, fries and even pizza.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 3:15 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 150

Ole,

I kind of understand where that guy is coming from.

I'm not a STH, but even I'm a little hesitant about going to that Gopher game. For me, I don't think I want my first baseball impression of the place to be the *tink* of an aluminum bat.

You know, first impressions just can never be erased. And I really hate the sound of aluminum bats. It's just not baseball.

And if I'd paid a lot of money for tickets already, I'd kind of expect that I'd get to see the first game, and that it would at least be a Twins game...

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 3:15 PM by Rick 151

Yeah that's the place I am talking about Beta. Best Italian Beef in the city. I've never tried their pizza but I do really like that place. I did see the other day that the concession stand right outside of my season ticket section has IB. Wonder if it will be any good? I like em double dunked and super juicy so hopefully they can accomodate.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 3:20 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 152

seriously. some of you really need to stop over-thinking some of this stuff way too much. the gopher game will be a fun experience for both fans and players alike. it is also a wonderful opportunity for baseball fans in general (pro or otherwise) to get to see a baseball game at target field who might not otherwise be able to during the mlb season. making it general admission (only $2 bucks) with no pre-sales to keep scalpers and brokers away was a great approach by the twins and gophers.

i have to say....who really cares if it is aluminum bats (that is just the college game these days)? that just seems like an arbitrary nit-picky thing at best. it is a great opportunity for the gophers baseball program and it is also a great opportunity for the twins to break-in the new stadium. a win-win situation for the overwhelming majority of people, including fans.

again....all i will say is that some of you really need to stop over-analyzing and over-thinking some of this stuff. it is not as complicated with alterior motives as some like to believe. they are trying their best to make it a fair situation and also extend some goodwill to those minneapolis/st. paul baseball fans who may not be able to afford season tickets, etc.

so i say good job by the twins and gophers on this one.

okay. i am done. peace.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 3:36 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 153

Bravo Betaband!!!!

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 3:43 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 154

Rosen said on KFAN today that Mauer's people want to get a deal done by tomorrow. Please let it be true! If they give us a deadline and we haven't decided, please just give them whatever they want BS!

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 3:48 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 155

You know, the lesson of the Dome Dog is that a catchy name goes a long way. I was shocked to learn that it only debuted in 2001. I thought it must have been there in some form since the beginning!

You probably heard the term "Dome Dog" long before such a product officially existed. It was fairly common, although by no means standard practice, for people to call the Metrodome's hotdogs Dome Dogs for many years before the official hot dog by that name came into being. That slang term's existence, which I remember hearing and using as far back as the late 1980s, was a large part of why the Twins, Hormel, and Volume Services chose the name in 2001.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 3:58 PM by Jorge Highlight this comment 156

The Weinery - great hot dogs! Place is a real dive, but the food is awesome (and inexpensive).

As for the STH that was upset about the Gophers game - I too can understand where he is coming from. There are some people that really want to go to the "first" baseball game at TF, no matter what.

As it stands now, the only STHs that will have an opportunity to go to that game (short of standing in line at TF on 3/27) are LC owners and there still doesn't seem to be a solid plan for that.

Also - not sure if I've seen it here or not - the Twins have abandoned plans to distribute season tickets at the open house weekend. All tickets will be sent to the account address of record via Priority Mail in mid-March (hence the recent address verification postcards).

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 4:04 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 157

I don't care what anybody says, Hooter's wings are my favorite

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 4:07 PM by dirwin7 Highlight this comment 158

jfh is correct - tickets will be mailed out week of March 8

I noticed this on the Twins website today:

Through their founding partnerships with the Minnesota Twins at Target Field, Target, U.S. Bank, Best Buy, Delta Air Lines and Treasure Island Resort and Casino contribute annually to the Twins Community Fund.

Perhaps Delta Air Lines will be the 4th and final spot on the scoreboard? Someone previously mentioned FS North, but I think the Twins used FS North as a "fill-in" for some promotional materials which were mailed out recently. I could be wrong, but I don't think the TV partner would be a founding partner of Target Field. I think the Twins will try to maximize their revenues as much as possible by finding a different partner aside from their TV partner as a founding partner of Target Field.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 4:21 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 159

Never been inside of a Hooters. Though I will readily admit to window shopping several times walking through Block E.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 4:30 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 160

I'm getting hungry.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 4:31 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 161

B-Dubs wings will always be #1 for me. Their Mango Habanero sauce is the shiznit! And they have the best ranch sauce around. It is too bad wings don't transfer very well to a ball park. The amount of napkins and wet-naps people would go through would be astronomical!

As long as we are on the food/beverage topic...and of course the weather is always a popular topic...has anyone heard of a partnership between the Twins and Caribou? I would think a hot cup of Joe or hot chocolate would be popular in Apr/Sept/Oct and their iced coffee drinks would be popular for summer.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 5:04 PM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 162

Beta - exactly my point. I don't make alot of $, I have the 3-5 Twins games I will go to off a friend's season tickets, and I am totally excited about seeing TF. The Gopher game will be my best first chance. I don't have to sit online or on the phone; if I want to see TF, I will get up to Minneapolis early, wait in line for tickets, and (hopefully) get in. All for only $2! I also don't have to pay who knows how much over ticket value from a broker or scalper. I think it's great! Would I rather go to opening day - YES!!! But this isn't a bad gig either. I don;t think it takes away from the Twins opening day at all. That will be special in it's own right.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 5:09 PM by Ole Highlight this comment 163

...and seriously, is anyone going to the home opener going to feel deprived because some other people went to a college game or even an exhibition game a few weeks earlier? I agree with the win-win philosophy.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 5:22 PM by robin Highlight this comment 164

I am so glad somebody brought up buffalo wings because they are HANDS down my favorite food in the world. Only bone-in, boneless is sacrilegious to me. There is LITERALLY no greater overhyped wing than BW3. First of all any buffalo wing establishment that actually charges you for blue cheese can suck it. There sauces are unspectacular, the wings are scrawny and don't have enough meat, and the service always sucks. They are the fast food of buffalo wings. Here are some of my favorites; I actually really like famous dave's buffalo wings, The Nook's and Shamrocks (same wings either place), I don't know why but all throughout high school all I ate was Applebee's wings and I still love them, and for just pure wing deliciousness I could literally eat green mill's diablo wings all day, every day. I'm sure I'm missing a few but those are a few standouts that eclipse the atrocity that is BW3.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 5:26 PM by HebrewHammer16 Highlight this comment 165

I like the BW3 idea for chicken wings. Gotta love those wings. I love chicken wings anyway.

Robin - I had thought that it would really suck to have a couple games before the OD on April 12. A little bit the same reason why I was kinda pissed that October 4 TECHNICALLY wasn't the "last" game at the Dome, even though it was coined as such, billed as such, and they gave the paper away that said it indeed was the Final Game at the Dome.

However, some of the good folks here commented way back that a few games before the big day helps get the staff trained, get the stadium entry procedures down to a fine art (which was a problem in the early days at TCFBS), all the remaining kinks worked out of the stadium (wasn't there a plumbing problem the first game at the Dome in 1982?) and get it all ready for the big day on the 12th.

I went to an exhibition Wild game at the X on Sept 29, 2000, the opening day was Oct. 11. At said exhibition game, the scoreboard wasn't complete (the Wells Fargo, FSN ads and pine trees weren't on it yet), the ribbon boards weren't being used to their full potential, if I remember right, they didn't operate the lighthouse goal light, novelty stands weren't open. All that kind of stuff. So, not everything is in operating order for those exhibition games. So I don't feel too bad.

What I do remember is that huge escalator just past Gate 1, broke down not during the exhibition games but on Opening Day on Oct. 11. I remember it was even on the news...so not EVERYTHING gets worked out I guess.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 5:49 PM by luke Highlight this comment 166

Luke,

There was not a cap on the amount of dogs you could buy until after the knobby thing, also that caused the twins/dome to no longer let you hav ethe screw cap to your beer anymore cuz people were checking them at chuck...and rememeber its your day 2marrow luke!

as for wings bw3 sucks it like HH said they charge for ranch and celery????are you serious? the winges are small with no meat they make a living off sauce.. i just like hot buffalo sauce . Gabbys over NE mpls has some huge wings with tons of meat on them for like 7 bucks.

i have to say even the nathans hd's at sams club eatery taste waaay better than a hormel...

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 7:54 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 167

I do think it is funny that people worry about going to the first whatever. While I think these are great events, I remember that it was only 9 years ago that our team was going to move to North Carolina or be totally eliminated from the earth. Now, it looks like I have a great ballpark for a minimum of 30 years to watch major league baseball. Not so shabby...I'll get a few games in during that time.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 7:57 PM by Linc Highlight this comment 168

I don't have any problem with the Gophers game or the exhibition games. The primary purpose of course is to "dry run" stadium operations to up the odds of opening day/opening week running without a hitch. I can't imagine anyone thinking this isn't a good idea.

It also provides an opportunity for more fans to say "I was at the first game at Target Field" (first game, first MLB game, first official game) regardless of whether they are they Opening Day or not.

My beef (if you can call it that) is that the Twins aren't providing a way for STHs to be able to guarantee that they can go to all three "firsts" and I presume the guy that complained on the other forum about spending $12K on season tickets and not being able to see the Gophers game has the same issue. I'm also sure there are some that went to all three "last games at the Dome" who want to go to all three "firsts" - some nice baseball symmetry. I am fortunate enough (or crazy enough, if you ask my wife) to have LC seats, so I know I will be able to go to all three firsts after all three lasts. I just happen to think that other STHs that want to go to the Gophers game should have the ability to do so without having to stand in line all day on the 27th and hoping they can get tickets.

That said, the way that they are doing it seems more fair then the presales - heck, the tickets cost less than the Twins charge for the per ticket "convenience fees" for all the MLB games. I just hope the weather holds. I don't care if it's baseball with aluminim bats or not - it's baseball - and, more importantly, OUTDOOR baseball.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 8:11 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 169

Sorry, I can't garner an ounce of sympathy for a Richie Rich who might have to stand in line for a few minutes for a game. Boo-hoo-freaking-hoo. Unbelievable.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 8:27 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 170

jfh, have you determined that LC seat holders can purchase tickets for sure to the gopher game? I guess i can call tomorrow and see. (actually, that's not a good day for me, now that i think of it)
looking forward to the open houses for sure.
Luke, good points. You inspired me to look at my certificate. It says "final regular season game ever played at the Metrodom"; of course that turned out not to be true, but what the heck, I don't expect them to say "final regular season game unless we tie for first with another team and have the game 163 at our park."

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 8:35 PM by robin Highlight this comment 171

We are FSTH and I agree with Rick. I don't want the Gopher game to be the first thing I see at Target Field. As STH we get the 'first' crack at a look around at the open house. Hopefully they'll let us check out our seats if weather allows.

The only thing that is bothersome about the Gopher game is someone else getting to sit in my seat before me. So if I get a chance at the open house, I'm going to sit in it, wiggle my rear end around in it, to christen it as best I can. Then I'll go home and wait for the wooden bats and electric crowd on April 2.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 8:39 PM by Jax Highlight this comment 172

Hype it up!! BW3 wings are awesome and I love the vibe in that joint.. I firmly believe it's a top shelf chain/sports pub.. NO complains.. and I must insist that Hooters is CRAP*

amen.

Did we decide what the hot dog nickname will be yet?

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 9:01 PM by tmoe Highlight this comment 173

Just noticed the "my tickets" function is now up and running at the Twin's site.

They must still be loading the games into the system. I only have two games listed for September 2010. The Tigers on the first and Second. Nothing else is listed yet, for the rest of the season.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 9:02 PM by minn55441 Highlight this comment 174

As for the Gophers game.. It looks like my family is keen to get to that game just for a cheap reason to check out the ballpark and see "some" of the game. My dad has been pro-roof from the start.. anti-state funds.. ohhh it'll be snowing in "tax-payer" stadium rants on and on.. I don't see my folks getting to many games so it looks like a good excuse for him. I'm guessing I'll tag along.. and just cross my fingers in hopes of seeing a handful of games this summer

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 9:08 PM by tmoe Highlight this comment 175

Jax,

I thought about you as I wrote that last comment!

And to be clear, I absolutely think having the Gophers play a game there is a great idea for everybody. It will probably be lots of fun and gets a bunch of less glamorous "firsts" out of the way for the operational staff. It will make everything easier on April 2 & 3.

But two things:

1. STHs should have had an opportunity to purchase tickets.

2. I'm not sure I want aluminum bats to be my personal first memory of a game at TF. (Yeah, sometimes I think too much.)

It's a little weird that the Twins force-fed the Cardinals tickets and withheld the Gopher tickets. Seems to me the more logical way to do it would be to give STHs the option to buy whatever they want, knowing that you'll keep your best customers the happiest and still probably have lots left to sell to everybody else.

But, whatever. My plan is to try for open house tickets, which supposedly will also include Gopher tickets. I'll grin and bear the *tinks* and probably spend a lot of time walking around taking pictures for y'all.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 9:11 PM by Rick 176

I'm stoked for the Gopher game. I can't afford season tickets, so I'm really happy to have a chance to see the Twins play before may! It's not a Twins game, so I don't see why Twins season ticket holders should get priority. Remember, the majority of this park was funded by taxpayers, not the Twins. Let's let some normal fans sneak a peek as well! There's plenty of Target Field to go around.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 9:24 PM by TimInDuluth Highlight this comment 177

wow, that was a stupid comment. I meant to say that it will be a good chance to see the ballpark before may.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 9:40 PM by TimInDuluth Highlight this comment 178

My recollection of the longest home run at the dome was Ben Oglive fom the Brewers sometime in the mid 80's. He hit it upper deck right field.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 10:08 PM by coley14 Highlight this comment 179

Channel 9 has been going all out lately on Twins/Target Field related coverage. Tonight they are showing MLB 10: The Show and talking about how realistic it is. Apparently Best Buy has some exclusive "pre-trial" of the game so they showed coverage of some people gaming at the Best Buy in Richfield. One employee even mentioned that he has yet to see anyone play in any ballpark other than Target Field.

I look forward to using my reward zone coupons for MLB 10: The Show on Tuesday!

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 10:14 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 180

Rick - your comments regarding the Gophers game and STHs summed up my thoughts better than mine did. Thanks.

Robin - Regarding LC seats, my rep assured me that LC members will be able to get into the Gopher game and sit in their seats, though it's pretty clear the Twins haven't figured out yet how this is going to work. He doesn't expect the full amenities in the Club level (maybe only some concessions). I also have an email from a Twins senior exec from late December.

Part of my note:
"Since the Legend's Club agreement provides the provision for
"The right to purchase tickets in the Ballpark to other baseball-related events" , I presume this means that we will be able to purchase our seats for the Gophers game on March 27th - how/where will this be done?"

From the response (December 2009):
"There has yet to be an announcement by the U of M and us on this game. Once we finalize details we will share them with you. However you are correct in regards to having access to all ticketed events in the Club Seats."

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 10:51 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 181

Click name for ANOTHER national story about how cold TF will be.

Oh, and let's keep the exhilarating chatter about hot dogs and buffalo wings going...only five more weeks of beating dead horses on this site. (I returned from Jamaica for THIS?)

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 11:10 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 182

From the Minnesota Sports Almanac(linked):

"The longest HR in Metrodome history was a 481 ft. shot to RF by Milwaukee's Ben Oglivie on June 27, 1983.

The longest HR by a Twin in the Metrodome was a 480 ft. blast to RF by Kent Hrbek on September 9, 1984.

The longest HR to CF was a 473 footer by the Twins' Pedro Munoz on April 5, 1994.

The longest to LF was a 475 ft. HR by Oakland's Mark McGwire on June 1, 1996."

Though these are only for official games...I do remember the longest HR ever was hit during BP, but I'll have to look for who and when it was...maybe it was on my Twins DVDs...

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 11:27 PM by Tom, OG Highlight this comment 183

It was 37 degrees in Colorado for one of the NLDS games this year. No national media outrage - they were more upset it was going to be 42 in New York.

I've never understood why the harping about no roof in Minnesota, but I sure hope opening week is nice so all this "What? No roof?" talk becomes a non-issue.

It's cold in many MLB cities in April and October/November. As Gardy says in the article "There’s no whining in baseball, You’re going to play in the World Series, you’re going to play in cold air.”

When the Rockies play the Twins in the World Series this year, I'll be bundled up in both cities and be thrilled about it.

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 11:30 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 184

Return from Jamaica?!? Why would anybody do that?

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 11:50 PM by Rick 185

put my 20 bucks down at game stop for mlb the show if anyone wants to play ( I suck by the way) my tag is ... mazaratitick07

the gopher game sounds good but i think they should charge more like 6 bucks or something its all going to a good cause and its still cheap...the problem is you will not be out there for a few mins in line there will be folks spending the night the day b4.. its gen admin.. i can pay 2 bucks and sit in 250.00 seats.. so you know it will be crazy.. so i will skip that one.. but im going to 4/2, and 4/12 and 2/14.. fitting since i went to the last reg game at the dome and 163

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 11:56 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 186

I only have an XBOX 360 so all I can purchase is the craptastic MLB 2K10. Anyone who would like to have me over to play MLB 10 The Show is fine by me, and not to mention greatly appreciated! :) P.S. When is the ticket trading going live? I've sold 2 tickets to games next season so far on stubhub, and their cut on commission is ridiculous.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 12:19 AM by HebrewHammer16 Highlight this comment 187

Anyone with partial plans who got the presale for Opening day - What kind of seats did you get? Was it really tough to get through for tickets or not really since you had a specified time?

HebrewHammer, please email me at noahwein@umich.edu with what tix you have for sale. I tried emailing your @yahoo email earlier but it got me an error message.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 12:21 AM by Tom Highlight this comment 188

TCTraders. I'm polishing the code right this very minute.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 12:22 AM by Rick 189

Tim In Duluth - I am troubled by your comment in post #177 "Let's let some normal fans sneak a peek as well!" Are you suggesting that STH are not normal fans? I know that there are hundreds of thousands of great Twins fans across the midwest - but don't take anything away from the STH's. They are normal and great fans also!

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 02:13 AM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 190

jfh, thanks, that's good to know, even better than I thought.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 05:36 AM by robin Highlight this comment 191

TTH - did you stop to think about what will happen to this blog in five weeks or so? With TF open, what are we going to talk about? The turnstiles will be clacking, the hot dogs will be steaming, the beer will be pouring...
I hope this isn't like that Julie & Julia blog that has a set finish date on it: "Well TF is open now, the blog is finished". I hope Rick keeps this thing going.

Any thoughts on that Rick?

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 06:58 AM by luke Highlight this comment 192

I'm assuming by the lack of comment on ticket sales yesterday (as opposed to Monday for the exhibition games) that 40 game holders received OD tickets as they expected. Can anyone share what was available?

I'm up at 2:00, and just hoping I can get 2 together anywhere.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 07:05 AM by Linc Highlight this comment 193

I'm a 40-gamer and picked yesterday at 10:00AM. I got 4 in section 124, row 26.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 07:30 AM by DanB Highlight this comment 194

I'm a 40 ticket STH and we got out OD tix on Wednesday no problems. Given a password and time two days before and got the tickets with no fuss, no muss.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 07:33 AM by Freealonzo Highlight this comment 195

Just doing some ticket scrolling this morning. The Twins "MyTickets" have loaded and all my games look right. I believe that feature is available to everyone, and will allow the on-line buying, storage, and transfer of tickets directly from the Twins. I like the feature, and so far it looks like it is working.

I also went out to StubHub just to see what was available. About 455 tickets for 4/2, with the low price of $43. About 700 OD tickets, with the lowest price of $172. However then it really loosens up. 1000-1200 seats available for 4/14 and 4/15 with lots of field view tix in the $15-20 range. About the same availability for the weekend series against the Royals but with more lower priced tickets available. Currently for Cleveland on Tuesday 4/20 at 7:10 there are 1540 tickets available for sale, with 178 coming in under $10 and thus all below face value (obviously the StubHub fees would drive that number up). I conclude that if someone wants to see a game at Target Field, they will be able to do so.

Also, all Twins tickets on StubHub are available for electronic delivery, so they must be using very active electronic cancellation of tickets. This will certainly make knowing a trustworthy sidewalk scalper more important, since you can be holding a genuine ticket that has already been electronically sold to someone else. Of course, your trustworth sidewalk scalper is also often buying tickets for resale as well, so they may not know what is in their inventory. The authorized resale market may win this battle yet if they sufficiently confuse the customer just walking up to a guy on the corner.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 07:56 AM by Linc Highlight this comment 196

I'm with Beta....Why should TWINS STH feel like they have some sort of god given right to not have to stand in line to get GOPHER tickets? Who freakin' cares if there is a college baseball game played before a major league game, and why get all upset if you aren't treated more special than the average GOPHER basbeball fan just because you are a TWINS STH? The GOPHER game will serve two purposes: First, it's a charity event from what I understand, so it's for a good cause, and Secondly, it gives the TF staff a chance to work out a few kinks to they don't spoil the actual TWINS home opener.

If it's because you want to be able to say "I was the first", then boo-freakin-hoo. Get over it. You will be able to say you were at the first actual Twins game...isn't that enough???

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 08:29 AM by Fred Highlight this comment 197

I think it'll be interesting to see how many people actually camp out to get these Gopher's tickets. It seems like I'd be able to just walk up to the ticket window at 9am and buy tickets.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 08:36 AM by Chad Highlight this comment 198

My friends and I bought our OD tickets on Stubhub for $130 a piece a few months ago. We tried to get the lotto, but knew that it was a long shot and that as soon as all the people that were banking no winning the lotto would turn to Stubhub right after. As the supply gets smaller, prices are really rising. We got section 323 row 11, and the seats in the last row of that section are now $200.

About them being available for electronic delivery, they're not. Tickets haven't been mailed, so bar codes cannot be entered. We chose to have the tickets mailed anyway, just for souvenirs sake. Stubhub guarantees sales, so if you buy from someone and they either never post the barcode or don't mail the tickets, Stubhub buys someone elses tickets and pays for the difference--or maybe they charge the deliquent sellers credit card? Either way, I'm going to both exhibitions, OD, and game 3 of the Boston series so I am about as jacked as can be.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 08:40 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 199

From Charley Walters at the Pioneer Press..."Look for the Twins' Pohlad ownership group, which committed $185 million toward Target Field, to spend an additional $15 million or so to enhance the ballpark's amenities."

It would be nice to know what things are being added!!

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 09:07 AM by Jeff Highlight this comment 200

Shooter's driveling drives me crazy. He just puts out random thoughts, with no support or expansion. The best example was a while ago he said "Chester Taylor will be an unresitricted free agent at the end of the year. Look for him to sign with the Washington Redskins, because they like to spend a lot of money". Why is that publishable? And is it even based in fact in any way??

That being said, I hope he is right about the $15MM. Not sure what they could still enhance, other than the plaza on the left field side. Will be fun to see though!!

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 09:14 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 201

It's kind of hard to imagine closing down shop here just when we're getting going!

There will be lots to talk about as we all get to know the ballpark and team. Then there will be the inevitable changes and refinements. Plus a few surprises, of course.

After all, it's been 100 years and people are still talking about Fenway and Wrigley, right?

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 09:21 AM by Rick 202

As for enhancements, I don't know specifically what they have in mind, but they have long talked about adding amenities for families with kids.

They've also talked about wanting to control and develop the top of the B ramp (perhaps for the above stated purpose).

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 09:25 AM by Rick 203

Rick - I for one would check back often after TF opens to see what others are thinking about the "best spots" to sit, eat, drink, park, etc. Plus, since I'm not as computer tech literate as all of you, I'm hoping that some people post sweet pictures of TF, especially of the skyline/sunsets/different weather. Rick, thanks for your diligence and hard work on this. Visiting this site a couple times a day has become something I really look forward to!

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 09:46 AM by Ole Highlight this comment 204

Oh Gawd!! I hope they don't add goofy playgrounds and crap like that....Here's a little piece of advice to families with kids...if the kids aren't interested in watching the game...THEN DON'T BRING THEM!!!!! Does Fenway or Wrigley have playgrounds? OF COURSE NOT!!. We don't need them either.

They should use that money to improve traffice patterns for both pedestrians and automobiles around the ballpark area. My fear is that we will see many traffic bottlenecks coming into and out of the ballpark due to the small footprint and the LRT running right outside the left field wall.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 09:50 AM by Fred Highlight this comment 205

Don't forget that I'm setting it up so we'll be able to share photos and comments from/to our phones in real time at the park!

I'm looking forward to seeing random images from whoever's at the game on those days that I can't get there.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 09:51 AM by Rick 206

Rick,

I think you can keep this going for a long time, we can shre pics and stuff of the ballpark like the food the diff areas..lke over on baseball fever..

if you can just walk up and stand in line for less than a hour and bue sure to get one of those 25k tix for that gopher game i would do it... prob would not watch much of the game just be getting my ninja on....

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 09:53 AM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 207

Luke - there will be plenty to rant about. I'd say 30 percent of the comments now aren't TF specific anyway. Wait until Delmon makes his first bone-headed play in LF or LNP hits four singles in a game or Jim Thome tears his labia in late April and is out for the season. It will become more a Twins blog than a stadium blog I'm sure.

Or we can talk about the Marlins' stadium for the next three years if you prefer.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 09:53 AM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 208

I will be posting a lot of pictures from my phone from the first few games. Would be cool to be able to get them on here in real time.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 09:53 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 209

I didn't realize a torn labia was a season ending injury. Mauer would play through that.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 10:01 AM by Chad Highlight this comment 210

just picked my OD tix it was easy and simple... sec 101 row 16 nice

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 10:09 AM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 211

I thought the $15MM had already been committed to by the ownership group about 7-8 months ago - is this just old news being recycled?

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 10:12 AM by OG Jeff Highlight this comment 212

Maz - I think you got my seats because I got timed out and lost my seats so I had to settle for section 101, row 20. I am happy with ANY seat in that place on April 12 so I cannot complain.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 10:14 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 213

Chad - maybe Jax could answer that question for us. And I doubt Mauer could do it. He needs Sundays off when he's healthy (probably so he can go to church and worship himself).

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 10:22 AM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 214

Clublevelfan,

Sorry, I didn't want to start a class war!

Season ticket holders get lots of special privileges, which makes them, in the eyes of the organization, special fans. The rest of us are not special, we are normal. How about I say "other" fans rather than "normal" fans.

I'm not saying that privilege is unjust or unfair, I'm just acknowledging its existence.

I love all Twins fans, and I met no offense.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 10:22 AM by TimInDuluth Highlight this comment 215

I just bought tickets to opening day for my season ticket group. We have a 4 seat 20 game plan in section 101. I am now the owner of 4 tickets to opening day Monday 4/12. Section 126 Row 40 Seats 12 through 15. We are into it for $164.50. If someone is willing to make me an offer I can’t refuse I may part with them...

The 4 of us can’t decide if we want to go to the game, or sell the tickets. We have also been kicking around the idea of donating them to some soldiers that are returning home from Iraq.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 10:23 AM by Lucky Highlight this comment 216

got my od tix, sec 104 row 22

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 10:24 AM by jp Highlight this comment 217

I got tickets in row 8 of section 102 for the exhibition game and am excited to see what the experience is like down there. Having sat in equivalent sections at the dome so many times those seats were terrible, having to crane your neck and a lot of the time you couldn't even see the plate because other peoples heads got in the way. Not to mention the seats were so elevated that you were looking down on players. Have to think those seats will be really cool at TF. They are angled towards home and jutted out. Also, the playing field is higher in relation to the seats, so you feel like you are on the field more I would think. Plus it is prime foul ball territory. Anybody have season tickets in that area and been to their seats on a tour?

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 10:31 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 218

I got logged in right at 10 - no problem. Got offered 101 right away but tried the "different seats" deal several times and bounced all over the place - mainly outfield bleachers and either 101 or 102. Finally decided to quit screwing around and grabbed 102 row 30. 2 x $37 wound up being $84 on the plastic. Looked like that was the best I was going to do without going way upstairs (also could get home plate view). Pretty obvious that partial plan STH are being accommodated, presumably with tix set aside for that purpose.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 10:39 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 219

Let the flipping begin....

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 10:56 AM by Max Highlight this comment 220

i purchased mine over the phone earlier this week (the first perk i've seen being a target employee) and scored section 319 row 4. i'm pretty happy.

i haven't seen where my exhibition game tickets are yet. they are not listed on mytickets yet (if they ever will).

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 10:57 AM by annoyingcustomer Highlight this comment 221

I noticed that on MyTickets they show the tickets I bought for the exhibition games, even though they weren't part of my season ticket package. The 2 tickets for Saturday that came along with my package don't show up, but the 4 I bought during the public offering do. Kind of interesting.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 11:07 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 222

Same thing here ben,

I had 2 dow the 3rd base line but then i got all fancy trying to get the overhang.. then i got sent to sec 101

The funny thing is i was picking seats when i finally got a phone call about a interview for a job (after 11 months out of work) I was frank with the guy and told him he had to bear with me im picking my OD seats and i only have 90 seconds to sumbit all this info , he was cool said his whole office tried to get in the lottery and failed.. so if i get a job i might not be able to use them.. OD or job?????? man i need a job

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 11:11 AM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 223

Maz - look at the BIG picture. In your life time there will be a lot of job opportunities. There will only be ONE Opening Day at Target Field!

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 11:14 AM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 224

I called the twins season ticket office yesterday evening to inquire about some plans, after about 5 minutes I had my info and had to talk it over with my group, after I said thanks and goodbye, the season ticket said "thanks for wasting my time".

For some reason this didn't piss me off, I have a feeling they are getting so many phone calls that are just complaints they can't take it anymore.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 11:14 AM by dirwin7 Highlight this comment 225

Maz ---

The guy was probably thinking --- "If this guy can afford OD tix maybe I will focus on the next guy down the list" --- my wife is a high octane HR puke with a Fortune 100 company - I will ask her how she would take that one (probably well, she's a huge fan!).

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 11:23 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 226

No matter what the stress level, if a sales rep said that to you, that person should be shown the door. Very bad form, and a terrible reflection on the organization.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 11:25 AM by Rick 227

I can really say it is not a joy talking to the Twins Season Ticket Reps. Yeah I am sure they are overworked and get a lot of annoying calls, but their customer service is horrible. Even when I put my deposit down for tickets this year the rep didn't really care, just wanted to get my credit card number entered so he could get to doing something else. I had questions but the guy made it clear he wanted to get off the phone ASAP.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 11:28 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 228

Oh I agree, I couldn't believe it, I actually started laughing, but like I say I just don't really care right now, if I would have gotten his name at the beginning of the convo, I guarantee he wouldn't have said that

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 11:29 AM by dirwin7 Highlight this comment 229

"thanks for wasting my time"

I hope it's not the same guy that I have to call in a little bit to downgrade our group from a 36 person suite to just plain ol' group tickets. Sheesh.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 11:37 AM by Chad Highlight this comment 230

well just cuz i can afford tix dont make me any less of a good worker.. but i get what you are saying.. but it was a local company and Twins fever is at a all time high so i felt it was safe, also maybe i was trying to shoot myself in the foot so i can go to all 25 games i have tickets for this year lol

happy luke day everyone! say something nice about our special friend!

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 11:38 AM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 231

Anybody have recommendations on what section I should pick for a group of 30? All adults. I was thinking left field bleachers, but what the frick do I know?

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 11:40 AM by Chad Highlight this comment 232

It's easy to be rude now when people are lining up for miles to give you their money.

But a little goodwill now could be a good thing later if, a couple of years down the road, the team is 10 games out at the break.

Oh, who am I kidding? They'll probably sell just as many tickets by being nice as they will by being rude. So, what's the point in being courteous?

(I wonder if their Target partners might have an opinion on that subject.)

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 11:42 AM by Rick 233

(I don't know if I've ever disclosed this here before, but in a former life I ran a couple of phone rooms for a very big local company. I've been there and done that. That dude would have been fired instantly. By me personally. No questions asked.)

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 11:46 AM by Rick 234

I was so excited to get season tickets for the first time at Twinsfest this year. Knew which plan, wasn't quite sure which seats. I maybe took 5 minutes to decide, but my rep was such a jerk that I almost changed my mind on the spot. Customer service was HORRIBLE. I was pissed to be spending that much money in that short of time to be treated that way.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 11:57 AM by James Highlight this comment 235

I have a buddy who put down his deposit online a couple weeks ago for a 20 game plan. The Twins got his money plus a "convenience" fee and he has yet to hear from them as far as locking in what seats he'll have in 2010. Beyond ridiculous, because as Rick so aptly mentions, things won't always be all punch and cookies at 1 Twins Way. You treat people right or they'll tell all their friends. The power of word of mouth is incredible.

This is the mentality that the airlines have taken. "What choice do people have? So why treat them decent and cordially?"

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 12:02 PM by Max Highlight this comment 236

Hey - let's not judge the entire Twins staff by one comment from one unknown employee at the end of a stressful day. I am not making any excuses for his comment, but I can say that I have had many conversations with my STH rep and also a group rep that I work with. They have both been FANTASTIC to work with. I am sure that I am often a pain in the ass to them, but they never let on to that. They have been very helpful and they always have a GREAT attitude. They also readily admit that things have been crazy and stressful lately - but they have handled it well and they have represented the Twins well.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 12:03 PM by clublevelfan Highlight this comment 237

The guy I talked to about the suite rental a month and a half ago was more than helpful and pleasant, but he has yet to send out any information(maybe because they don't have it all together yet). Not a big deal due to not being able to rent the suite.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 12:06 PM by Chad Highlight this comment 238

I've always felt that in the end, everything evens out. The reps that are rude will eventually leave. Maybe not this year or next, but in the long run they will either be asked to leave because of productivity or how they treat others will catch up with them.

It always amazes me what people will say to one another. I have had those conversations many times with employees. Many times I have had the urge to say "what the hell where you thinking?" Of course, I know better. Maybe that is it. Some people think it and it immediately comes out of their mouth. A season ticket rep can't afford to veiw any interaction with a potential season ticket holder as a waist of time. They are paid to communicate with people not stare at a computer screen.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 12:11 PM by minn55441 Highlight this comment 239

Im going to take your comments with a grain of salt if your moniker means you have club level seats. They are obviously going to go out of their way to kiss the butts of people who give them more money than my $800 partial season ticket plan. Not judging I'm just saying.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 12:11 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 240

Let's hope that the quality of service is not tied to the amount of money a customer spends.

People with a little bit of money today may have a lot of money tomorrow. (And, as the current economy teaches, vice versa.)

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 12:15 PM by Rick 241

happy "luke day" everyone! did you get off work for it like i did? it is just like festivus.

ballparkmagic.com........where luke reminds us everyday that ANYONE can pass the 8th grade. ;-)

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 12:18 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 242

Bought new 20 plan season tickets about 10 days ago. Exhibition tickets were no longer included in the package (although the Twins web page still listed it as a benefit?) nor could they send me an email to get the presale password. (It is 2010) So I call my ticket rep on Monday and he says "My Mom is a season ticket holder and she didn't get any tickets in the exhibition presale either." I was like well she already has tickets. I just thought it was VERY poor customer service for him to tell me this. Also when I bought the season tickets he said he'd get back to me by the end of the day on a question. Didn't hear from him, so I waited until the end of the next day to give him a call. Once agin poor service, but they have your money, so what do they care? Anybody have 1 for sale? I was able to get 2 on Tuesday in the family section - which is good because it is me and two kids, but hoping to get one more.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 12:49 PM by Goldy Highlight this comment 243

Sony sent along nine screenshots that show off Target Field and the Minneapolis skyline in the upcoming video game, MLB 10: The Show.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 1:18 PM by TwinsTerritory Highlight this comment 244

Fred, I disagree. I think there should be some sort of playground for the kids. It doesn't interfere with your enjoyment of the game, so why does it matter? Ask yourself this, would you rather have a pissed off kid who gets tempermental in the middle of the game sit there and kick the back of your seat or would you rather have a place for his parents to take him to work off some of that energy for a bit?

Kauffman Stadium has a playground and so does Miller Park. I see no problem with the Twins possibly working one into Target Field some place. I have no idea where they could put it, but why should it bother you so much?

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 1:20 PM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 245

I want to clarify that I would never allow my own kids to bother those around me, but my point was more, why is it so wrong to have a place to let younger children burn off some steam? I've had to wander around the ballpark with one of my children when they were younger, but I've always appreciated the ballparks that give parents a place to go without leaving the game where their kids can have some fun and we can still watch the game.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 1:23 PM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 246

Unfortunately, the Twins customer service could be greatly improved, at least compared to my experiences with other clubs.

Follow through doesn't seem to be an priority, regardless of how much money you spend on season tickets. Perhaps my phone calls get returned because I've spent over $22K with the Twins so for for 2010, but if the response is proportional to money spent, I feel really bad for a 20 game plan holder in Field View that has a problem.

Perhaps it is just the stress and workload of dealing with a new park and that they start putting at least as much focus on support of existing STHs as they do on generating new ones, then again, you get what you pay for. Reps in general don't get paid a lot (I know nothing about the Twins salary structure), most have a quota or sales targets they need to meet and have some commission component so "helping" doesn't pay as well as "selling".

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 1:44 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 247

Wow, 22K? You in the Champion's Club or Dugout Box?

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 1:58 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 248

I prefer to contact my ST rep using email, that way he can get back to me at his convenience...

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 2:03 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 249

Paying that type of employee on commission seems pretty old school to me. I'm sure there is a level above which sales skill is essential (i.e. suites or clubs with tons of complicated options and lots of personal service). Commission for those guys seems totally appropriate.

But it sounds like some of these people are really just taking orders, processing credit cards, and fielding routine questions. If that's the primary function, salary is the way to go -- and be generous. Make them love it so much that a customer would never seem like a waste of time.

I wonder how much of the culture is still descended directly from the Griffith days. It's easy to imagine Calvin paying everybody on commission -- even the ticket takers.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 2:13 PM by Rick 250

It's good (not really)to hear from others who have had some questionable experiences with their reps as well as myself. They are definitely not all like this in any way, and the Twins organization seems much more professional than a few of their rogue ticket reps.

I don't know what the twins reps get paid, but I do know what the Chicago Blackhawk's reps get paid and I'm sure it's similar, they get $7/hr plus a small commission on every sale, and it's a very small commission, no benefits, their work environment is incredibly stressful and hostile, and they are genuinely not not appreciated. (and, like a previous post mentioned, all of them were led to believe it was going to be their dream job, so there is definitely a huge feeling of unfulfillment(sp))

This probably contributed to my not being mad at my rep since I know what it's like over there.

Well I'm excited for single game tix to go on sale b/c the one place I want to sit in the overlook (Sections 136,137,138) and you cannot buy season tickets there, I think I'll just try to buy a tickets to a bunch of games for those sections.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 2:20 PM by dirwin7 Highlight this comment 251

I too would like to see a game or 2 from the Overlook, but I'll wait for the secondary market on a less desirable game because I'd like to be in the front row of that area at least once.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 2:25 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 252

I too would like to see a game or 2 from the Overlook, but I'll wait for the secondary market on a less desirable game because I'd like to be in the front row of that area at least once.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 2:25 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 253

man that kids set up they have at the new Kaufman is class act! and its free... i have a 5 & 6 year old boys.. they love going to the games but my the end of the 2nd they are ready to roll..i never took them down there per the 7 hour drive but last year after a few beers and the heat i wanted to jump in and play.. (that comment was only acceptable on Luke day)

and for they guy who wants 30 seats toghter i doubt there are that many availbe in the lf bleechers together ... might be looking RF ter... if anything....

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 3:11 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 254

now that was a typing mess!

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 3:12 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 255

Mauer specific video for MLB 10: The Show released yesterday. Some shots of TF mixed in with a good chunk of real footage. Can barely hold in my excitement for this game.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 3:33 PM by Oaks Highlight this comment 256

Joe Mauer contract-watch is as boring as Joe is. This is driving me crazy. Has anybody heard anything? I'm not worried about it not getting done, I'm just annoyed that I keep checking all these sites and it hasn't happened.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 3:44 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 257

I bet there's a ninja out there, who either is now in the ticket sales department or was at one time, who could fill us in on the pay structure. Anonymity guaranteed!

But $7/hr?!? No benefits?!? You'd be looking for college kids, I suppose. Even adding a ticket discount wouldn't mean much if that's all they have to spend...

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 4:00 PM by Rick 258

DVS,

I would suggest following news stories with a lot of leaks, like anything to do with favre, that way you can ride the emotional roller coaster and be entertained.

As George Carlin would say, Joe Mauer contract watch 2010 is about as exciting watching flies fu*k

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 4:02 PM by dirwin7 Highlight this comment 259

Rick,

That is the really crappy thing, as far as the blackhawks reps go, they either all have college degrees and were hired right out of school, or they had just a few credits left and they were hired with an agreement between the 'hawks' and the school that they could earn some 'work credits' of some kind through working for the Blackhawks. They were really pumped about the opportunity to work for a sports franchise, but once it started the reality set in. Intense sales quotas, meetings with managers twice a week going over the computer records of how many calls they made out, how many incoming calls they took, and how much phone time they had compared to their sales, sales targets comparing them to last years crew(because they hire a whole new group of sales reps every year), getting bitched out by hawks president Mcdonough for coming to work with a 5'Oclock shadow. Oh and the crappy incentives they give them to be #1 at the end of the month, a $50 gift certificate to the blackhawks store.(not worth it) Their biggest monetary incentive is if they sell a suite for the whole year, they get $1,000, which isn't that bad, but that suite goes for God knows how much, I think around 100k, no one through the first six months of it had actually sold one of those though because for it to qualify they had to make the cold call themselves, if a company called about it, that didn't count.

I'm not in any way saying this is what the twins reps go through b/c I have no idea. And man, it just can't be that bad. But I'd be incredibly interested to know.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 4:16 PM by dirwin7 Highlight this comment 260

Target Plaza Grand Opening!!

Taken from the Twins press release...

"MINNEAPOLIS (February 26, 2010) - Target Corporation (NYSE:TGT), the Minnesota Twins, the Minnesota Ballpark Authority and fans will celebrate the official opening and dedication of Target Plaza at Target Field on March 13, 2010. Target Plaza will be the gateway into Target Field and a vibrant community gathering space for Twin Citians of all ages. To celebrate the special dedication event, Target will bring a taste of summer to Target Plaza with a warm weather-inspired outdoor festival including music, interactive activities and food for the entire family."

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 4:31 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 261

I've been hearing negative talk about Twins reps here and I wanted to add my 2 cents. I REALLY like my rep. He's a good guy. We even became friends on Facebook and he exchanges emails with me. All because we seemed to get along. When a friend wants a rep, I direct my friend to him. He likes his job.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 4:34 PM by jpberka Highlight this comment 262

TTH - the new Marlins ballpark? You mean that POS thing they're building with a retractable roof? That ballpark looks like the same POS the Marlins are. Remember, we're all about outdoor baseball now, and so am I. Like I said, no more complaining about being roofless from this guy.

Beta - WTF is "Luke Day"?

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 4:43 PM by luke Highlight this comment 263

Rick. I am your Twins Ninja. Twinja?!?!?!?!?

I post with another username, but wanna keep things under cover and shhh quiet. The following stuff is straight shooting from personal experience.

In past times Twins season ticket reps worked on commission on top of a small base salary. Forget about the rates. All that matters is the $$$ on the (meager) checks. Prior to the late 1990s when it all went to hell for the Twins, they only got paid on new season ticket business with little to nothing paid on renewals. The franchise gave the reps incentive to not abandon renewals and just work on new season ticket holders by linking renewal numbers to performance reviews. The big point in not paying commish on renewals was to keep the pay for these people down. They switched to paying renewals around the new millenium so the reps wouldn't starve to death since no new sales were happening back then. The reps have done better since the winning started around 01-02, but don't make much to begin with when you compare it to what people working similar positions in other industries make.

The Twins have a limitless supply of people who want to work in pro sports, so they can pay chump change and get away with it. The hours are brutal especially the home stands. It burns employees out fast. If you're young and newer, you are locked out of the big corporate giants and must really beat the bushes to find clients though you will still get thrown the odd bone. The system there is set to pay people little for a lot and to take advantage of kids who want to scrape their way to being the next St. Peter.

Look up and down the front office staff lists from the old dog eared media guides and there are a lot of lifers. Those folks have made it to good titles and earn raises based on longevity. Unlike most people in Twins front office, they make a good living even if it is less than what they can get elsewhere. They won't go anyplace else and it limits the advancement possibilities of those lower on the totem pole which means lots of turnover in the lower ranking positions and that also keeps the pay down since new people make less. There are lifers who rock and people that ain't worth their titles and checks. Now you got those people that made a mess of the Metrodome at times gettin' handed a new stadium. Mindboggling. Hope they get things right.

Back to season ticket reps. Even now in boom time the reps probably do not make close to what the public would imagine and they work their fingers to the bone to make that. It leads to overworked guys and gals that know they are underpaid, underappreciated, and with all the phone ins who don't buy anything, people have to be going nuts over there. This is as good as it gets too. Lotta season ticket holders for 2010 are not coming back in 2011 after they decide April games are too chilly and 81 games are too much.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 4:52 PM by CG Washington Highlight this comment 264

So much for anonymity. Rick if you can clean up the username or just delete and repost it. Much appreciated

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 4:56 PM by CG Washington Highlight this comment 265

Oh well, not like ...'s my real name anyway. So who at TF is going to know or care? Still, if it can be changed then cool and if not so be it.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 5:15 PM by CG Washington Highlight this comment 266

Anyone know when exhibition tix will be mailed?

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 5:43 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 267

CG Washington - what you have posted is similar to what I know about other clubs. I really don't think the Twins are any worse than other teams, but I still think the priorities/incentives for the season ticket/group folks aren't what they should be. However, I don't believe for a second that they only get paid $7/hour.

Jimmer - $22K isn't even enough for a Champions Club plan (cheapest plan for a pair is over $28K. I have three plans - Legends Club, regular full season plan and a 20 game plan. I've seen a couple people with 10-20 seats in dugout box, LC and CC, so my account is pocket change compared to some. :)

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 5:59 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 268

I wonder if demand and prices will go up once there are actual tickets sellers hands. I wouldn't love purchasing something that doesn't really exist yet, guarantee or not. I suspicious by nature though.

Luke, the ballpark magic will just be getting underway - why would we shut up then? Of course those of you who are shivering old ladies layered in cardigans not planning to attend cuz it's too cold might lose the excitement. But I know I'll be posting from my toasty little seat!

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 6:09 PM by Jax Highlight this comment 269

sorry for the double post, I had some heinous grammatical errors!

I wonder if demand and prices will go up once there are actual tickets in sellers hands. I wouldn't love purchasing something that doesn't really exist yet, guarantee or not. I am suspicious by nature though.

:D

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 6:11 PM by Jax Highlight this comment 270

Long time reader, first time poster . . .

Love the site. Can't wait . . . can't friggin' wait for the stadium to open. Landed tickets to the exhibition opener and have a shot for the home opener on Monday (got selected in the lottery).

Posting just to say great job. One nitpick though . . . the date for the first exhibition game is April 2. You have it as April 3 above.

Keep up the good work.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 6:19 PM by st. paul Paul (aka sandmn) Highlight this comment 271

jfh,

Like I say I don't know anything about the twins reps, however as of a year and a half ago the 'base pay' for the 'hawks' reps was $7/hr, that is fact

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 6:28 PM by dirwin7 Highlight this comment 272

That is true Jax, I never thought of it like that...lol.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed, I hope lots of people have good reports from waiting "in line" on Monday for the OS tickets. We shall see.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 6:29 PM by luke Highlight this comment 273

CG Washinton,

What are the Twins reps base pay nowadays?

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 6:30 PM by dirwin7 Highlight this comment 274

Twins Rep comment...I've had 5 different Reps in 8 years..Some very good and some very bad....One thing is for sure.If you have a complaint how you are being treated/neglected etc.. Pick up the phone or email one of the TOP DOGS...Your very BAD Rep changes his/her tune immediately.. The "Thanks for Wasting My Time" is intolerable.. The STH Hotline is basically worthless but having your Reps phone # handy comes in nice for lost tickets etc.....This site will be jumpin all year with everybodys thoughts so keep up the nice job.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 7:01 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 275

I've now made a couple of changes to the calendar up in the article -- corrections and adding details.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 7:22 PM by Rick 276

Sorry for the couple hour delay, CG, but I scrubbed everything up for you. I think you were safe anyway, and thanks for some of the inside stuff.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 7:23 PM by Rick 277

Nice Target Field overview courtesy of Minneapolis St. Paul Business Journal. Click my name to check it out!!

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 7:56 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 278

Someone said earlier their friend put a deposit down 2 weeks ago and still hasn't been contacted about seats yet? I was thinking of putting a deposit down before single game tickets go on sale- is it even worth it anymore? I don't have that much to spend, just getting 2 seats in either Field View or Skyline View... am i going to have to wait weeks to pick my seats? I would think after the 13th seats are going to be few and far between. Does anyone know how full either of these sections are right now? Thanks in advance.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 8:04 PM by amputechture Highlight this comment 279

At least one error in the Business Journal overview - the club seats start at $48, not $55.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 8:07 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 280

Isn't the TF pro shop opening very soon? I need a warm jacket. :D

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 8:10 PM by Jax Highlight this comment 281

amputechture - generally the seats available to you as a new season ticket holder aren't going to be impacted by single game sales.

The Twins have already blocked off locations for season ticket packages, some locations for full season, some for partials. If they aren't sold as packages, then they will be available as single game tickets at the beginning of each homestand.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 8:17 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 282

okay, I'm confused. I thought non-STH open house followed the STH Open House on the 20th and the 21st. Respectively. Click my name for an article saying that the Gopher game day will be the first opportunity for non-season ticket holders to see Target Field.

from paragraphs 4&5:

"Attendance for the game will be capped at 25,000 people. Gates to the ballpark will open at 9 a.m. and close at 5 p.m.

The game between the Gophers and Bulldogs will mark the first time that the general public will have the opportunity to see Target Field."

i'm confused.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 9:39 PM by Jax Highlight this comment 283

Jax,

All these dates have proven to be moving targets. I've been revising the calendar up in the article as I get better info, and that link may require another revision...

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 9:50 PM by Rick 284

gotcha - I didn't see the calendar, I'm not very perceptive. ;p It was just news to me in the article that non-STH couldn't go in until the 27!

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 9:56 PM by Jax Highlight this comment 285

Rick, thanks for the referral to Maple Street Press Twins Annual. For those like me who were considering ordering online or waiting till March, I happened to see them in Barnes & Noble today and picked one up. Nice article (and pics) by Howard Sinker on Target Field. Twins projections by Pete Palmer, if true, might be mildly disappointing for twins fans.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 10:18 PM by robin Highlight this comment 286

Also, on the seating from the Business Journal article, I wonder if dugout box seats are categorized as Club. If they are general, then the price range from 11 to 62 would be wrong, as they start at 69. I think 62 is the premium face value price for home plate box.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 10:31 PM by robin Highlight this comment 287

Suggestion for the next Ballpark Magic article: "Trading Time".

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 10:33 PM by robin Highlight this comment 288

Jeff, seeing the comparison again of the number of suites in TF v. The Dome really makes you understand why the dome needs to be retired (bottom right of the spread).

3000 vs 243 ... that's just crazy!

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 11:00 PM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 289

Well, club seats...you know what I mean.

Posted on February 26, 2010 at 11:09 PM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 290

CG washinton,

there was once a time when i went inside TF .... and some people said they would report me... basiclly i think your post is safe since the peeps here dont do that type of shit

we are all ninjas, you are a ticket sales ninja, im a tresspassing ninja...luke is a .... well its luke ninja...

thank you for your input and we really apprecate it!

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 01:41 AM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 291

I know the MLB 10: The Show coverage has been extensive, but here is a YouTube video of a game in Target Field. It's basically the pregame, and they span across all of the ballpark.

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 07:12 AM by TwinsTerritory Highlight this comment 292

Personally, I'd rather this board's discussion turn to Jax's "toasty little seat" than this never-ending diatribe about Twins reps.

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 08:48 AM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 293

"I do not call one greater and one smaller,
that which fills its period and place is equal to any.
Were mankind murderous or jealous upon you, my brother, my sister?
I am sorry for you, they are not murderous or jealous upon me,
All has been gentle with me, I keep no account with lamentation,
(What have I to do with lamentation?)" WW

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 09:40 AM by robin Highlight this comment 294

"Who's on second?"
Abbott and Costello

Back to baseball

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 10:43 AM by Ole Highlight this comment 295

I played a little bit of a demo for MLB 10 at Best Buy today...the PS3 version. Very nice.
The Metrodome is in the "classic" stadiums section...I won't be visiting there too often.

Tuesday's the big day for its release.

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 11:34 AM by luke Highlight this comment 296

Robin--very nice. Thank you.

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 11:41 AM by fiesta Highlight this comment 297

Here is the MLB The Show commercial with Joe Mauer and Kevin Butler. Pretty funny..

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 1:17 PM by Ryguy213 Highlight this comment 298

WW - Is that Walt whitman?

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 2:46 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 299

it's a beautiful day for a ballgame! (if it weren't for the pesky unmelted snow.)

I bet when daylight savings starts in 2 weeks(for everyone but Kevin!) the days until we're watching baseball will fly by.

I wish DST would make the snow melt faster lol

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 5:16 PM by Jax Highlight this comment 300

How much snow cover do you people in the Metro area have? We've only got about a foot, less in spots up north.

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 5:36 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 301

a lot less than some other major league cities are going to have to deal with before opening day. clicky link

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 6:09 PM by Jax Highlight this comment 302

Glad you liked it, Fiesta.
WM, you are correct.

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 6:58 PM by robin Highlight this comment 303

Can someone let me know a good spot to park to get up close to TF?

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 7:03 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 304

see my link... i hadn't seen this updated before.

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 7:20 PM by Jax Highlight this comment 305

I noticed this information on the Twins STH site...

Season Ticket Holder Open House:
Scheduled for March 20 and 21, these exclusive Open Houses give you a first look at Target Field and all the amenities available to you as a 2010 season ticket holder. Watch for an invitation, including tickets to either day, coming to you soon!

Visiting Your Account Representative:
As we prepare for the inaugural season at Target Field, we politely ask that you keep in touch with your Twins account representative via email or phone until we are in a better position to host you in our new offices. Finally - watch for details coming soon regarding exclusive Open Houses for season ticket holders. Visit the Metropolitan Club, sample some Target Field fare, sit in your seats and visit with the Ticket Sales and Service Staff.

It now appears there will be a STH open house on both Saturday, March 20 and Sunday, March 21.

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 7:35 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 306

interesting - so maybe 20th and 21st is for STH and non-STH have to wait until the 27th as I found in this link.

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 7:52 PM by Jax Highlight this comment 307

It looks like they have a new sign lit up above the Majestic Twins Clubhouse Store

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 7:53 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 308

Will TCTraders be up and running soon?

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 10:36 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 309

Steve,

Short answer: Fully running by the time the Twins mail out season tickets.

I'm sending out information on the opening to everybody on the list sometime this weekend. If you're not on the list, drop me a line at trade@ballparkmagic.com.

Posted on February 27, 2010 at 10:48 PM by Rick 310

looking at the footage from MLB 10 the show is really making me angry to not have a PS3. How can 2k sports release such a piss poor alternative??!!!

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 12:41 AM by HebrewHammer16 Highlight this comment 311

The shitstack looks like it was hit by a hurricane on MLB10 The Show.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 02:18 AM by Tom, OG Highlight this comment 312

It's things like my link, and the link to the Mauer school on that site too that make me certain that Joe will stay here. He's got more than his own reputation in Minnesota to consider here. If he left, I wonder what the bitterness in MN would do to his families business ventures here. lol

(I know some will say that Joe's money could support the entire family but they wouldn't want to sit at home on stacks of Joe's money watching him play for the Yankees....would they? lol)

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 07:57 AM by Jax Highlight this comment 313

Buffalo-

I guess my point is that if you don't think your kids can handle themselves at a ball game...don't bring them. Leave them with a sitter. Like I said before, I'd rather see that money used for something useful like unclogging the bottlenecks in pedestrian/auto traffic that we are sure to see once the ballpark opens than a couple of merry-go-rounds for the children who can't behave and sit still for a couple of hours. Just my two cents.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 08:47 AM by Fred Highlight this comment 314

Fred, I'm guessing you don't have small children. It's not that "children can't behave and sit still for a couple of hours." Kids that are 3-6 years-old don't have the attention span to sit at a game for 3 hours. Have you ever tried to get a child to sit in one place for ANYTHING for 3 hours? You can bring things to distract them (which is what I've done with my 4 year-old) while they're in their seat, but at some point they want to get up and move around. I've walked my son around the concourse of the Metrodome countless times. If there had been a place for him to play for an inning or two it would make the experience better for him and make him want to come back even more. He loves watching baseball, but can't watch for a whole game yet. And he's a pretty mellow kid, not hyper or high-energy by any means.

I do bail at the first hint of squirrelness from him out of respect for the people around us and have considered it a good outing if we make it to the fifth inning before heading home. A play area for kids might mean we make it to the 7th or 8th inning and extends the thought that going to a baseball game is a fun thing. However, the emphasis needs to be on "we're going to the game to watch baseball, not just go to the kids play area."

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 09:05 AM by Faber College Alum Highlight this comment 315

At worst, at Target Field you will be able to watch the game as you walk your kid around the concourse. That in itself is a monumental improvement over the Dome for parents.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 09:16 AM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 316

Looks like the snow is finally starting to melt. The first sign of dirt right around third base. It won't be long now.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 09:20 AM by minn55441 Highlight this comment 317

Fred's strategy is short-sighted. Kids that have fun at the ballpark (regardless of why) are likely to want to come back. Parents that can bring their kids to a family friendly place will attend ballgames much more often than when they have to hire a sitter all the time. Both the kids and the parents are future potential STH if they have a good experience.

I personally don't relish games with lots of youth groups in attendance, but from the Twins long-term perspective I think family-oriented investments probably pay off in future ticket sales.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 10:08 AM by Linc Highlight this comment 318

I would rather sit by a wiggly kid than a shirtless, face-painted, beer guzzling, Dome Dog burping, profanity spewing middle-aged idiot.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 10:33 AM by Jax Highlight this comment 319

If we end up seated next to each other, I'll promise to watch my language. But the rest...

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 11:38 AM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 320

Now, we're talking about a supposed $15M increase in the Twins' financial commitment to Target Field, aren't we? If I understand this discussion correctly, some would like to see the money go toward a more family-friendly experience at TF, while others would like to see the money go toward infrastructure improvements in the surrounding area.
If I understand this correctly (please let me know if I do not), the Twins' lease is with the MBA, an organization set up to run the building. If the MBA was created by Hennepin County, the Twins' investemnt would have to go into the ballpark itself, while the surrounding streets are under the auspice of the city of Minneapolis, with whom the Twins have no known contract arrangements.
Therefore, the Twins' money would have to be spent within the confines of the Target Field property.
A kiddie play area somewhere near the plaza gate probably would be a good way to invest some of that money. After all, isn't the plaza gate area somewhat flexible in it's design?

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 11:47 AM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 321

I don't know how relevant it is, but the Saints used to have a play area near the outfield fence where I could look at the game and watch over or play with my child for a few inning break from sitting in the seats. Maybe it wouldn't work so well at Target, maybe there are insurance issues, fear of parents dumping their kids there, in fact I'm not even sure the Saints still have it, as I haven't needed to use if for many years now.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 11:58 AM by robin Highlight this comment 322

Alum-

I did have small children, they are all grown now. However, I didn't take the kids to games until I felt they were old to enjoy it. Does anyone REALLY believe that a 4 or 5 year old child can really appreciate the game? They would probably have more fun at a Chuck-E-Cheese than a ballgame, and that's what I fear these new ballparks are becoming, just another Chuck-E-Cheese that happens to have a baseball game going on.

How did the fans of baseball, from the turn of the century up until these new ballparks ever survive without kiddy games at their ballparks? Are the Red Sox and Cubs hurting for fan attendance because they don't have a little merry-go-round for little Johnny or Janie? Of course not.

If you son or daughter is not old enough to appreciate the game, why waste the money bringing them at all? Wait until they are 7 - 8 years old, by then should be old enough to sit still and watch a baseball game and you won't have to look for other side attractions to keep them occupied. Maybe it's me, but somehow I had fun as a kid at the old Met and didn't need a merry-go-round to keep me happy...Neither did my boys when I took them to games.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 12:02 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 323

Winona-

I'm not saying that the Twins should spend the $15 million on projects like widening 7th Street (for example). But it might be a good idea to have that money in reserve in case an unforeseen bottleneck in the ballpark entrance/exits rears it's ugly head. I think we are ALL waiting to see what happens with the LRT station after games. If lots of people arrive by train, the platform by the LRT looks pretty small, maybe the Twins can do something to alleviate any possible congestion there within the ballpark entrace...Or maybe the plaza gets too crowded after games heading towards 1st Ave....there could possibly be a need to improve that area.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 12:08 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 324

At one game last year I wound up next to a guy who had to go about 450 pounds spilling over into my seat. Behind me were three girls who were practicing for the finals of the intergalactic screaming contest - you would have thought the Beatles were giving their farewell concert. When I finally had enough I went and stood along the wall at the top of the section. One of the usher/section cop types came by and said I couldn't stand there. I pointed to my seat and asked her to look and listen for a minute. She went and got me a chair. Whoever was in charge of those girls, by the way, should have been taken outside, tied to a pole, and shot in the head.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 12:10 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 325

I love the peanut sliders..Eating peanuts,,, drop shells to the ground and slide them over to my feet.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 12:23 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 326

Fred, a 4 or 5 year old can appreciate the experience of being at the a live baseball game, not necessarily the game itself. My son loved watching foul balls being hit backwards, for instance (yes, Baker was pitching that day) and calling balls and strikes with me and seeing a ball hit over the fence. He now cheers when he sees clips of spring training that baseball is back, "I like baseball daddy!" I think part of that excitement is that he's seen a game in person.

And believe me, when my son is a little older, he won't need a kiddie play area. Like the last sentence in prveious post noted I'll make sure it doesn't become a "let's go to the playground that happens to be at a baseball game."

I brought him to a game at a younger age because I wanted him to have an experience in a big, community environment, something bigger than just the family. We had a great time and he didn't need a merry-go-round to be happy. I'm not saying that's what the Twins should do with their money. I'm just saying, if there was one and it was done right, it doens't make a stadium a Chuck-e-cheese's, it makes it a viable option for families to enjoy the experience EVEN more. It doesn't have to be one or the other.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 12:26 PM by Faber College Alum Highlight this comment 327

Faber -

You just made my point. You just said your son didn't need a merry-go-round to keep him happy. That's great!!! It also sounds like your son had fun watching the game and didn't need extraneous gimicks to keep him happy. I have zero problem with parents taking kids to the games, I just don't want to see ballparks turned into an amusement park. Like I said before, if your child needs merry-go-rounds to keep him/her happy at the ballpark, don't bring them until they is old enough to not need them.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 12:32 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 328

Get off my lawn you little whippersnappers...

Ok earmuffs TTH. Rant forthcoming.

But seriously, in all seriousness, if a kid can't sit still and enjoy the ballgame (that includes kicking my seat) then they belong in the upperdeck OF seats (with the rest of the drunk college kids and/or groups who aren't particularly in tune with the whole watching each pitch in the ballgame) or at home until they can behave at the game. I have no problem turning around and telling Junior to politely stop kicking my seat. This should (but often isn't) be a wake up call to Mom or Dad that this is unacceptable to infringe upon the experience of someone else at the ballgame by letting Junior be out of control. I know, here comes, the stay home and watch it from your couch if you don't want the inconvenience. But au contrare, I enjoy the noise, the pre/postgame, the buzz in the crowd,etc.

Bottomline there are too many parents who are oblivious to how their kids are acting. This goes for all places in life (restaurants, movies, the DMV, and sporting events). I think kids are like pets. You only like your own. Little Johnnie isn't "cute" or "sweet" when he needs to get cotton candy every half inning or get up to piss right in the middle of a crucial at-bat. A little common sense would go a long way on the part of the parents who are often incredibly overmatched (especially when they have several kids...).

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 1:02 PM by Max Highlight this comment 329

The problem is that a huge number of people go through life without ever obtaining a clue - and some, unfortunately, seem able to afford the sorts of places I like to visit. As a side-note, I am curious how a kid would be able to politely quit kicking.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 1:15 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 330

Fred, I'll put it like this. There are things they way you want them to be and things the way they are. I know in the past that baseball didn't need any bells and whistles to attract people, but that was in the past. You can sit and say, "Back in my day..." or you can adapt and keep attracting customers.

The "back in my day" comment doesn't really work for me. I'm sure that back when you were a kid there were plenty of things you didn't have that you have today. Are you saying you would give up those things to go back the way it was?

Look, my kids are really too old for a playground of some sort at the ballpark. My eldest daughter now goes along to games with me for the experience and, well to be honest, the food. But it is about spending time with dad and making memories. But not everybody is like that. Some families need more to get them to the ballpark and while Target Field is sure to be a big draw in the short term, the Twins would be stupid to not at least consider some sort of area for youth. That doesn't necessarily have to be a playground, mind you. At the new Comiskey Park in Chicago, they have an area out in left field where the kids can toss a wiffle ball around or something like that. Activities like that, or speed pitch games, etc., would accomplish the same thing.

And Max, I always make sure my kids don't affect the experience of fans around me at games. I would hazard a guess I do a better job at that than some of the drunk, obnoxious fans who I see buy two or three overpriced beers every time the vendor walks by our section. I have had more trouble having to tell adults to watch their language and behavior than I have with children in my experience at the dome.

Whenever people complain about the behavior of children at Twins games, I am reminded of a Cubs game I took my then 7-year-old daughter to at Wrigley. If you've ever been to Wrigley, you know the seating cramped. Every damn time her foot even brushed against the back of the chair of the elderly man in front of her, he turned and admonished her. I finally told him off, because while I believe in keeping my kids under control, he was being the jerk in that situation as I was watching her quite closely to make sure she wasn't pounding the back of his seat.

Bottom line is, baseball at heart is a kids game. If you don't want to be around kids, you shouldn't go to a baseball game. And if kids continue to stop going to games and stop playing the game, baseball is doomed as a sport.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 331

ill-behaved children and adults should be contained, i agree.

But I'm pretty laid back at the ballpark. After all, it's a game! As long as nobody busts my eardrums or spills on me, I'm pretty tolerant.

I actually spend most of the game watching with my iPod on my ears to block out the organ/chant/clap stuff. After this many years, that is what's gotten intolerable. lol

Winona Mike: Well you won't be able to burp Dome Dogs anymore either - tis a shame! And if you're shirtless, please use deodorant. thank you.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 2:11 PM by Jax Highlight this comment 332

"please use deodorant"

That's good advice for everybody -- shirt or no, kids or no, ballpark or no.

This discussion veered a little bit, but I just want to underscore that whatever money the team invests will be in the ballpark itself, and not infrastructure.

Infrastructure is the responsibility of the Ballpark Authority in conjunction with the city, county, Metro Transit, et. al. (funded by, well, wherever they can get the money from).

I brought up the children's area just because I know it was on the Twins' wish list back when this process got underway. I don't know whether they have any intention of actually doing it, or where it might go (though I did hear -- long ago -- that the roof of the B ramp is seen by the team as an opportunity to be explored).

One of the great things about Target Field is that it's a ballpark rather than a baseball-themed entertainment venue. That purity is pretty rare these days, and the design has struck the right note in just about all of its amenities.

But if there happened to be a play area for kids on the roof of the B ramp, I'm sure a lot of the purists would be appreciative. Getting the little ones (and their potentially clueless parents) out of the stands is a little like getting some solo drivers off the road and onto trains: more room for everybody else.

As to my own kids and Twins games, well, I'm being interrupted by them right this minute, so I'll continue this post in a little while...

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 2:27 PM by Rick 333

Maybe I bring my kids to games cuz i want to spend time with them, and expose them to the great sport...i keep them in line but sometimes they need a lil break from sitting in the seat...i think it would be great if they have a play area.. I mean the plaza at the dome had alot of kids things to do , so just keep it on par with that or better and im fine..

Man some of you guys are gonna have a bitter sweet year at TF this year... it is going to be crazy, loud, and not like "back in the day"

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 3:24 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 334

The top of Ramp B would be a nice place for some kiddie play areas. You couldn't put bleachers up there, a la Wrigley Field, that's for sure.

I don't want to beat a dead horse, but I don't want to go back through thousands of comments and articles to find where we might have talked about it, on webcam 1, whats sitting in front of the third base dugout? It looks like they put a limestone wall in front of it.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 3:58 PM by luke Highlight this comment 335

Personally, I have a 3 month old daughter that I'd love to bring to games. From a logistical (re: practical) perspective, I probably won't tote her along anytime soon, though.

People bring their kids everywhere. People are annoyed by other people's kids everywhere. Not sure that anyone has an inherit right to avoid that happening to them outside of their own dwelling. Conversely, I'm not sure the ballpark has to go all "McDonald's Funland", either...but I wouldn't be offended.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 4:42 PM by AndyG Highlight this comment 336

MLB 10 The Show comes out on Tuesday. I'll be there to pick up my copy and check out Target Field.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 5:24 PM by OG Jeff Highlight this comment 337

The Majestic Clubhouse Store sign looks great!

Inside the store the kiosks, racks and counters are all in!!!

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 5:24 PM by OG Jeff Highlight this comment 338

Jeff,

Do you know when that store (or any of them) opens? I want to add that to the calendar.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 5:26 PM by Rick 339

I was able to play MLB 2010 The Show at Best Buy today. It still didn't have the stone on the backstop, and I don't know if this has been talked about, but to the right of the bullpens on the far left of the batters eye there is a 411' mark. Do we know what that dimension was at that point in the dome? I would think it would have been under 400'.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 5:32 PM by twinlves Highlight this comment 340

f-u-c-k you canada! :-)

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 6:10 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 341

couldn't agree more beta!

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 7:04 PM by MattW Highlight this comment 342

Rick, I'll get an answer for you tomorrow on the store opening date.

Click for highlights from a game at TF in MLB 10 The Show.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 7:16 PM by OG Jeff Highlight this comment 343

re The Show video highlights: looks like tickets won't be so hard to get, at least for the Baltimore games.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 7:28 PM by robin Highlight this comment 344

Blame Canada, Blame Canada! They're not even a real country anyway!

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 7:56 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 345

Cleanse the stands of all little kids and what do you have? Yankee Stadium? Fenway? Let's pray that this is not TF's elitist future.

Thank goodness Team Canada prevailed so all of those ridiculous comparisons of this year's NHL players to the 1980 Miracle team can be put to bed.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 8:11 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 346

Our government has apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions!

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 8:27 PM by Jax Highlight this comment 347

F Canada Eh

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 8:53 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 348

Anybody notice the bats in that highlight video? They're pink for Mother's Day. That's how detailed they get.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 9:23 PM by TwinsTerritory Highlight this comment 349

pink bats but no wind veil

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 9:33 PM by Jax Highlight this comment 350

On the Longest Home Run's. Does anyone remember the home Run Reggie Jackson hit off the right field scoreboard at the Met? I think around 1969/70. It was a Monstrous line drive blast and still going up when it hit. It would be interesting to get an estimate as to the distance it would have traveled.

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 9:43 PM by hans Highlight this comment 351

Anyone? Anyone?

Posted on February 28, 2010 at 10:00 PM by hans Highlight this comment 352

Well considering at one time centerfield fence at the Met was 425 at that time and I think and the scoreboard was a little right of it if I remember right. I would take a guess since the ball was still going at that time it would be about 450 ft would be my guess when it would have finally stopped all depends on the wind though but thats my guess.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 04:31 AM by Leroy Highlight this comment 353

Schweady-

YS and Fenway are "elitist" because they don't have a "McDonalds Funland" to keep unruly kids happy? Sorry, don't buy it. If you want to say those parks are "elitist" because of the prices they charge for tickets, then fine. Using your rationale, the old Met was "elitist" because they didn't cater to 4-5 year old kids who had no interest in the ballgame.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 07:44 AM by Fred Highlight this comment 354

I do not necessarily have a problem with a ballpark having a play area for kids, but I would never choose to use it. I come to a ballpark to watch a ballgame. My parents did not bring me to a major league game until I was so excited to be there that I was intensely sad when the game was actually over and couldn't wait to come back. If your family's idea of fun is to go somewhere and play in a park, then our city is full of such places. Take your child to Como Park and your child will think he/she has died and gone to heaven. If your child doesn't feel that way about going to a ballgame yet, then perhaps you should invest a few bucks in a good babysitter and come to the occasional game without them. This is just my opinion, and I know that some people will completely disagree. Free country, but I'm also the guy who believes that MLB ballparks should have "serious fans" sections that are similar to the "Family" sections and request that those who sit there must pass a baseball literacy test and make vow to only get up during the game for things that simply cannot wait. ;-)

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 08:02 AM by jpberka Highlight this comment 355

Shouldn't the kids be at home with their mothers, helping bake, clean, and fold laundry?

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 08:27 AM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 356

Excuse me???

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 08:47 AM by Wanda Phillips Highlight this comment 357

I just wanted to wish all of the Opening Series drawing "winners" good luck today as you try to get Opening Series tickets.

I did not win the drawing, but I still I got my tickets secured for April 12 in section 101 as a STH. I just wanted to wish all of you "winners" good luck. Feel free to post on here what you are able to get for tickets today, I am anxious to see how smoothly this process goes compared to the exhibition games we all experienced last week.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 08:58 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 358

anyone know when exhibition tickets are being mailed?

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 09:11 AM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 359

Sorry, I forgot to use my sarcasm font.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 09:36 AM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 360

Anyone who thinks the women at the Block E Hooters are attractive and/or Hooter's wings are good lives a sheltered life. Allow me to introduce you to Runyon's where the locals get giant buffalo wings with vinegary hot sauce that will make your eyes water and homemade chunky blue cheese dressing that has to be more addictive than crack. Just don't tell the whole world because that place will be packed before and after games...

I can't give all my secrets away, but if you want Surly on tap with some outrageously good pizza the Black Sheep is a good place to start, I'm just sayin'...

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 09:45 AM by mplsgreg Highlight this comment 361

Infield dirt and warning track are now visible along with the plastic material covering the grass. Snow should be melted off by the end of today, if not, tomorrow, and grass should be visible by end of week I would think.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 09:58 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 362

I just purchased 4 tickets to the home opener. I made it through right away and got 4 tickets in Section 305, Row 14. I can't believe my strategy of just not worrying about how I was going to get to the opener actually worked. Good luck to others in the lottery!

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:05 AM by The Rational Actor Highlight this comment 363

DAMN IT! I was in and had 3 tix to OD but I hit the wrong button and lost them!

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:08 AM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 364

how long did your browser "refresh" before you got in?

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:09 AM by luke Highlight this comment 365

4 tickets OD sec 304 row 12

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:10 AM by Joe117 Highlight this comment 366

Won the opp to buy tix today. Got through in the first for minutes and landed four seats in section 304!!!

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:11 AM by st. paul Paul Highlight this comment 367

You're gonna get skunked Luke!!!!

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:12 AM by Max Highlight this comment 368

Not so Max.
Got 2 tickets today for me and my bro.
Not OD, but 4/14.

Sec 111 row 24.

Yay!

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:19 AM by luke Highlight this comment 369

Can someone tell me what the Family Section is about?

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:20 AM by Josh Highlight this comment 370

I got tickets!!

I did not try for opening day, I went for the April 15th game instead. I just wanted the opportunity to go to one of the first games and though that would be my best option.

When I first got a chance for tickets I had 4 tickets in some 300 section, but when entered the password it said the tickets were no longer available. I tried for 4 tickets again, but 4 in a row were no longer available. So I went for the best possible seats for only 2 people and got Section 111, Row 22. I'm very excited!! I'm not putting away my hat and mittens quite yet!!

111 22 3 Adult $4.00 $62.00
111 22 4 Adult $4.00 $62.00

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:21 AM by Jeff Highlight this comment 371

Re: Runyons-- "Just don't tell the whole world because that place will be packed before and after games..."

My main issue with Runyons is that they have a crappy beer list. Good to know about the monster wings, though. I hate small wings, but I remember loving the BW3 "buffalo legs" back when I went to school in Mankato.

On another food note, I tried Stadium Pizza for the first time last night. Not bad at all, and they cut it into squares, which is nice.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:22 AM by Chad Highlight this comment 372

Scored 4 tickets to the thursday game, Section 119 Row 22 above visitor's dugout

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:23 AM by MB Highlight this comment 373

Opening Day in the presale sold at at 10:23am. Congrats to those that got tickets.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:24 AM by jfh Highlight this comment 374

Meant to say "Opening Day tickets sold OUT at 10:23 am"

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:28 AM by jfh Highlight this comment 375

Family section - no beer available. Not sure if the ticket also includes a coupon for a hotdog and/or a soda.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:29 AM by jfh Highlight this comment 376

Didn't get them. Was in the waiting room, got out of the waiting room but it kept giving me errors.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:29 AM by AJ Highlight this comment 377

I had a one or two to Opening Day in the family section, but it wouldn't go through when I clicked continue.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:29 AM by TwinsTerritory Highlight this comment 378

Well I got two tickets in the Family Section for Opening Day. Don't really care about the beer not being there, just was curious as to what is was about. Couldn't you go to another area and buy a beer?

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:32 AM by Josh Highlight this comment 379

Josh - not unless you want to risk not being allowed back in to your seats.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:37 AM by jfh Highlight this comment 380

I am curious, is anyone being offered the shot at Overlook tickets? When will these become available? Seems strange as I've seen none for sale up to this point...

Target employees: What kind of tickets are the Twins offering you? Opening Day? Opening Series? Ticket limit? All employees of Target Corp or just "upper management"? Just curious how this is proceeding...

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:37 AM by Max Highlight this comment 381

I guess I meant going to another concourse and drinking it before sitting back down.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:42 AM by Josh Highlight this comment 382

Got 3 tickets to opening day in just a couple of minutes. Pssst, a trick to getting through the waiting room faster is to open a bunch of duplicate tabs so it refreshes more often than every 15 seconds.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:46 AM by Matt Highlight this comment 383

Scaffolding is coming down at Twins Pro Shop...lots of snow removal from field.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:47 AM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 384

I was so excited by the warm weather this weekend, that I shoveled my rooftop deck. I'm 3 blocks away from TF, facing the back of the scoreboard, so it'll be interesting to finally find out just how much I can hear from my location.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 10:52 AM by Chad Highlight this comment 385

I'm gonna go and take a walk around the stadium on my lunch again today. Anyone want pictures of anything specific? I will post them to Flickr afterwards.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 11:02 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 386

Josh - wouldn't risk it. In other parks, ushers in the family/no alcohol sections are trained to watch for that. I presume the Twins are going to do the same thing. Is one beer really worth not being able to go back to your seats?

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 11:05 AM by jfh Highlight this comment 387

DVS -

I nice shot of the Pro Shop signage would be nice!

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 11:18 AM by Brandon T Highlight this comment 388

Can do. Not sure how good the pictures will be from my Blackberry Storm but I'll give it my best!

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 11:20 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 389

I drove by the park yesterday, but was on my way to watch the Olympic hockey game and didn't have time to get out and walk around. How big is the Pro Shop at Target Field going to be in comparison to the ones at the shopping malls?

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 11:25 AM by Jorge Highlight this comment 390

Ok, I COMPLETLEY forgot about winning the lottery today, even though I put 10:00 am today in my outlook calendar. Instead, I got the oil changed, got groceries and even got a speeding ticket this morning. Got home about 11:00 and fired up the computer again (I work from home on Mondays). I saw my reminder about the tickets and actually laughed to myself because I figured I blew it. So I log-in anyway and saw OD gone. But tried for either the 4/14 or 4/15 game. I got 3 tickets in the skylne deck, section S, the one closest to the Club Level! I'm totally psyched because I've thought all along that the skyline deck would be some of the best seats for the price at TF. Same level as Club just a little further down 3rd base and cheaper. Yah-hoo!!!

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 11:25 AM by Faber College Alum Highlight this comment 391

Scored four tickets to both Wednesday and Thursday games...nice that two members in my family won the chance to buy these!

Those are on top of the two tickets I got for opening day at Target Field with my season tickets. I am pumped!

Is it April 12th yet?

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 11:31 AM by StatFreak101 Highlight this comment 392

Faber,

I was thinking the same thing about the skyline deck. Make sure you let us know your thougts after the game. they are not available for season ticket holder purchase, but I thought they would work out great if you have friends come for a game and need to buy additional seats. How much did the price come to with fees?

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 11:43 AM by minn55441 Highlight this comment 393

From Shooter:

Pssst: Don't be surprised if Schweigert replaces Hormel, which produced the Twins' Dome Dog at the Metrodome, as the Twins' new hot dog brand at Target Field.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 11:46 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 394

Fred, I only used those parks as examples of how it seems that families have only rare opportunities at occupying the good seats... I'm not clamoring for any play areas whatsoever. (My own twins turn 28 this spring...) Prices, corporations with blocks of tickets, season ticket holder only sections, etc. seem to be turning the fun ballpark experience that I remember as a kid at the Met into an elitist experience. I mean, when was the last time you saw a little kid in a good seat at either of those venues? Maybe the pic in my link isn't the best example -- you might argue that the little girl had no idea the ball was coming -- but I think it shows fairly well how a lot of today's young folk feel that they deserve to enjoy the game way more than anybody else.

(Come to think of it, the old man never did spring for any of those $3.00 box seats no matter how hard we dreamed that it could possibly happen one day... And, never mind, maybe I was just sulking over my wife's most recent veto of my stubhub plan for what I thought were 6 sort-of affordable seats for the KC 4/17 game...)

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 11:57 AM by schweady Highlight this comment 395

max -

as a not upper management target employee (been with the company just over three years) i was able to get opening day tickets in section 319 row 4. all employees that had a partial ticket package secured during 2009 were eligible for this opportunity. i had no idea it existed until i received the call!

-ac

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 12:04 PM by annoyingcustomer Highlight this comment 396

Jorge-
Not sure of dimensions, but I would say that the pro shop in the ballpark will be significantly bigger. I go to the one in Rosedale and it's very unimpressive. The last time I was in it I spent less than five minutes inside and then left because I looked at everything and wanted nothing. They practically have nothing in those stores.

Went I went to KC the pro shop there is pretty big. I'd say, if you've ever been to the hockey lodge in Xcel, it probably was 2-3 times the size of that. Just from the pictures I've seen, I'd say the pro shop in the ballpark looks to be around the size of the KC one, maybe bigger. Probably safe to say 2-3 times bigger than Xcel hockey lodge.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 12:10 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 397

"Target employees: What kind of tickets are the Twins offering you? Opening Day? Opening Series? Ticket limit? All employees of Target Corp or just "upper management"? Just curious how this is proceeding..."

I am a Target employee and haven't seen any communication regarding ticket offers for employees. The only perk I have seen thus far was allowing new season ticketholders priority in picking their seats (versus other new season ticketholders). I am sure Target has at least a couple of suites, so I would imagine the executives will be there versus the "regular seats".

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 12:14 PM by Mike115 Highlight this comment 398

We were able to get 4 tickets to opening day and 4 tickets to the Wednesday Game! We had two passwords and are totally pumped.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 12:17 PM by MorneauGirl Highlight this comment 399

Matt, thats how I eventually got in. I had three windows open, and all a sudden, I was in.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 12:18 PM by luke Highlight this comment 400

Schweady- I agree with your take on the STH-only areas and stuff like that. Just like the whole discussion about who does and who doesn't get access to the Metropolitan Club. Personally, I have no problems with sitting in the cheap seats with the other "bleacher bums", and now that we will be outside, I think I will PREFER to sit in the OF sections with the sun in my face and a beer in my hand.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 12:23 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 401

minn55441,

The seats themselves were $32/each plus a $3.25 per ticket convenience fee. There was also a $3.50 processing fee that included delivery. Total cost of $109.25. The interesting thing was it was going to be an additional $2 to print the tickets at home, so I chose the mail option.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 12:27 PM by Faber College Alum Highlight this comment 402

Should be an absolutely beatiful week for melting of snow. Just checked out weather.com and high 30's and low 40's all week with sunny days!!

It would be a great week to have the grass in the sun.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 12:32 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 403

Linked is my Flickr account showing a couple closeups of the Majestic store sign. Twins employees were standing in the concourse near the Carew gate commenting on the on-going snow removal.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 12:41 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 404

jfh,

No it is not worth it, just talking out loud. We are fine without the beer. I cannot wait for opening day. This is the first season opener I have ever went to, so this will be awesome!

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 12:50 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 405

Hey Ballpark faithful,

If you haven't yet seen this..

Well played Mauer.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 1:10 PM by tmoe Highlight this comment 406

Detailed article on TF construction. Nothing new, but some good info about the construction.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 1:22 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 407

I can't see the link from tmoe because I'm teaching (facists block youtube at my school!), but I was going to post this question: Why am I getting more and more nervous each day that goes by with no Mauer news? Someone please talk me off my ledge before I jump!

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 1:26 PM by Ole Highlight this comment 408

Posted By Mike
From Shooter:

Pssst: Don't be surprised if Schweigert replaces Hormel, which produced the Twins' Dome Dog at the Metrodome, as the Twins' new hot dog brand at Target Field.

Please, let that be untrue. Schweigert makes as bland and unappealing hot dog as any company out there. They always taste like something you'd make for a first grader or an elderly person who can't handle anything spicy. Is that hard to get a decent kosher hot dog around here?

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 1:54 PM by Jorge Highlight this comment 409

One has to wonder if any inside information is required to speculate that Schweigert (a past Twins partner and one of the big wiener players in town) will get the TF gig.

Likelihood that it's true: High.

Likelihood that this represents a scoop of some sort: Zero.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 2:07 PM by Rick 410

In safeco field the trains run underneath the roof when it is opened and hanging off the side of the ballpark, when the trains go through they blow their horn and it echoes and rumbles the ballpark during games and actually adds a super cool element to the stadium, how much do you think the BNSF lines as well as the Northstar/Light rail lines will affect TF in this manner? Does any one have any insight? Thanks.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 2:25 PM by dirwin7 Highlight this comment 411

[Best Beavis/Butthead voice] He said "big wiener player", huh, huh, huh[/Best Beavis/Butthead voice]

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 2:25 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 412

Hidden away in the article about Caribou coffee's makeover is the following sentence:

"Caribou is the official coffee partner of the Minnesota Twins in their new Target Field ballpark."

I guess this means that the coffee question has been answered. They serve Caribou at TCF as well, though it seemed pretty weak compared to a normal cup of Caribou.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 2:36 PM by The Rational Actor Highlight this comment 413

I think I could live with the ding ding of chimes in the background every now and then for an "element". Not that bad. The choo choo sound is much cooler, but you can't have it all.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 2:41 PM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 414

The ding-ding of light rail cars will be interesting. Who knows, we might not even hear them, especially after a Mauer home run.

Don't the choo-choo trains go underneath the promenade? I would think that might make an interesting sound effect. The promenade is concrete, instead of the steel of Safeco's roof....

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 3:04 PM by luke Highlight this comment 415

Luke can you make a youtube video with those sound effects. Maybe include your brother who could do the Ding-Ding while you perform the Choo-Choo. I am a little unsure of how those would sound??....

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 3:09 PM by Max Highlight this comment 416

I picture Luke as Dwight and his brother as Moes.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 3:24 PM by Jim Highlight this comment 417

For those that got Skyline tickets for the Opening Series, how much were they (before all the junk fees)?

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 4:02 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 418

oh Max, come on now, the human voice and an electronic, 220v train whistle are two different things and would sound inherently different underneath a bridge (provided it doesn't collapse, but, you know how Minnesota LOVES collapsing bridges).

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 4:02 PM by luke Highlight this comment 419

luke - Why even bring up the bridge collapse and joke about it? I for one, had friend/former classmate who was critically injured in that collapse and her life has changed forever, not to mention those who actually lost family members/friends in that collapse.

If you would realize the number of weeks spent in the hospital and the long hours of therapy, maybe you would think differently of it. And what about the people who actually lost friends/family in the collapse?

I might be in the minority but I find it offensive when people joke about a bridge collapse. If you were actually affected by it, than maybe you would think the same thing.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 4:22 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 420

Always knew Luke was a bit off the target - didn't know he was a complete mindless twit until that comment.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 4:24 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 421

Hey Ballpark faithful,

If any of you get a chance to see this show I think it will be well worth it. It's all bout baseball and has some great nods to Minnesota staring local actors (including one of my closest friends from college) it promises to be a brilliant night of theatre!! Get tickets now!! The show is even sponsored by our beloved Minnesota Twins Baseball Club..

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 4:35 PM by tmoe Highlight this comment 422

ALSO be advised that tomorrow ESPN is featuring the "Look-a-likes" on their "Grapefruit Express Tour" of spring training.. should be fun!

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 4:37 PM by tmoe Highlight this comment 423

Quite true, Mike. Didn't mean to offend. I apologize.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 4:50 PM by luke Highlight this comment 424

Rick,

Sorry if this has been discussed, but when is TC Traders going to be up?

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 4:54 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 425

I got 4 tickets in section 224 to opening day. It only took me 10 seconds to get in. I'm super excited!

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 5:12 PM by Michael Highlight this comment 426

Josh, while we wait for Rick's response. He sent me an e-mail today as someone that expressed interest in the past. Mine was filtered to spam (yahoo), so anyone that might have gotten one should check their spam folder if they didn't.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 5:29 PM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 427

The reason I am asking is that there is a small chance that I will not be able to go to opening day and may need to work out something, and figured why not go here since we all share the same common interest in the Twins and this Stadium.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 5:42 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 428

This was part of Rick's email today: "All of these are signs that it's time to start trading tickets, and I'm happy to say that the TC Traders service is finally ready to open!"

Also, to quote Rick, 'sometime in the next few days'...
so, we are getting close.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 6:25 PM by luke Highlight this comment 429

it sure as hell aint luke day anymore.... and dwight/moe its crazy true lol

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 6:43 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 430

TCTraders, check your inbox. If you didn't get a message from me, or you're not yet on the list, drop me a line: trade@ballparkmagic.com.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 7:10 PM by Rick 431

I wouldn't get on luke too much about his bridge comment, and that's coming from somebody who was on the middle of the bridge when it fell. I guess I'm kind of used to it by now. But I did get pretty ticked off when I was downtown on Halloween when I saw some college kid actually DRESSED as the bridge collapse. I gave him a piece of my mind. If only he knew what I and others went through to get back to as close to normal physically and emotionally as we'll ever get.

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 8:56 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 432

Not to rehash the horror of that day, believe me I feel just as bad about it as anyone.
But, what really does get me about the collapse, is it seems to me...I could be wrong, but it seems to me MnDOT seemed to have more of a role in it (with all their trucks and everything) then they let on about. That entire tragedy I believe, could have been averted had MnDOT been just a tad more responsible.

Anyway, back to TF - does anyone know, in regards to the 3D seat simulator thing, when they say the view is from Rows 19-24 for instance, is that view generated from Row 19, Row 24 or somewhere in-between? Just curious...

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 9:10 PM by luke Highlight this comment 433

Luke,

Give or take 1-4 rows.....

lol

Posted on March 1, 2010 at 9:17 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 434

TTH, college kids wearing offensive costumes is just as normal as college girls dressing like a slutty version of something. In bad taste? Absolutely, but I wouldn't have been surprised one bit had I seen that costume back then. Good on ya for giving him what for, and out of curiosity what did he say?

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 01:04 AM by billymayshere Highlight this comment 435

MLB 10: The Show has hit shelves. Here is one photo I just found of Target Field.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 06:54 AM by TwinsTerritory Highlight this comment 436

And here is Thome hitting a homerun to right field (video). You can see the Target Logo on the plaza, and then the overhang at the end.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 06:56 AM by TwinsTerritory Highlight this comment 437

billymays - i saw that costume last Halloween, not a few years ago. I'm not going to get into what I said to him, this really isn't the forum for that. Rather, I'm waiting for the 22 posts today that are some version of: "Just got the Show. It's awesome."

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 07:13 AM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 438

Heading down to the MOA and want to stop by Target Field. Where is the best place to park to get up close? Thanks!

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 07:31 AM by Josh Highlight this comment 439

So, what did they do to the Pro Shop, other than add a sign at the top? Did they redo the door facing the plaza or something?

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 08:33 AM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 440

When do SRO tickets become available to purchase? I've heard the Twins talk about them, but have seen no details on how they will be sold.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 08:46 AM by MuckandGrind (aka Fred) Highlight this comment 441

The Majestic Pro Shop still had a LONG way to go when I went buy it yesterday. They had mounted a couple TV's inside, but other than that there was nothing set up. Some shelving units strewn about in there, but no hints at merchandise or anything like that. If they are saying they will open next week, they have a LOT of work to do.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 09:22 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 442

DVS - I though the Twins were hoping to have the team store open by March 3rd and then have the grand opening of Target Plaza on March 13th.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 09:42 AM by Jeff Highlight this comment 443

Awesome artwork the Twins posted on their Twitter account from local artist Michael Birawer. I for one hope it is released to the public!

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 09:54 AM by ajndsu Highlight this comment 444

Thanks ajndsu for sharing that photo. That is the sh!t!

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 10:16 AM by DeePee Highlight this comment 445

Yea, Michael is a great artist. I have his painting of 1st ave in my living room...to remind me of home.

If he releases this in print, it is a MUST have!

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 10:39 AM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 446

I just saw a pop-up advertisement for MLB 10: The Show and it featured the limestone backstop on one camera shot (from behind pitchers mound) but on the other shots, it showed the padded green backstop.

I wonder if this will be one of the "updates" that you will be able to download? It can't be that difficult to add a minor stadium design tweak to an update?

Not a big deal either way, I was just surprised to see the limestone backstop featured in the pop-up ad. I look forward to buying the game this afternoon.

On another note, I saw some TV shots of Delmon Young last night and boy does he look different, a lot different! Hopefully that is fresh start for him for a big 2010 season.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 10:43 AM by Mike Brumley (aka Mike) Highlight this comment 447

anyone know anything about SRO tickets?

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 11:01 AM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 448

i wonder if the reason for the green backstop, instead of the limestone, i'll bet they just took it from all the promo material for TF and the 3D seat thing, which if memory serves me correctly, has the green wall behind home plate, instead of the limestone.

And, to me, the Multifoods tower or whatever it's called now, in the game doesn't look too great...

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 11:02 AM by luke Highlight this comment 449

TTH,

I heard of that costume and I think it is just what holloween is like now, no need to be sore about it.. if you were on the bridge like you said you were then count your settlement cash and be ok..

you cant have a point on EVERTHING since you got on this site, alot of them offensive to most (Fried chicken/ Black people, ect...) then expect us to take you all serious now... glad you made it back from Jamaica buddy .. sounds expensive.. hmmmm.....

anyways.. loading my mlb 10 the show as we speak so make me #1 on your list...

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 11:03 AM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 450

My guess is that they will update the stadium looks in their first big update online. Graphically, it shouldn't be a big challenge to change it. I'm sure there is a few adjustments to make (I don't think they have the wind veil either). They, like us, haven't seen the stadium in action yet.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 11:05 AM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 451

Green grass visible in left field corner on webcam 1... :-)

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 11:07 AM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 452

Strangely enough Luke is almost a dead ringer for Dwight. I remember when he posted a photo gallery once and that resemblence was striking.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 11:18 AM by Max Highlight this comment 453

I got a 6 pack of the beer of your choice to anyone that will have me over to play MLB 10.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 11:37 AM by HebrewHammer16 Highlight this comment 454

It's always about the money, isn't it rick? I suppose if we throw a boatload of money at Haiti they're problems will dissolve. Thank you for your shortsighted response.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 11:43 AM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 455

No problem, thats what im here for!

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 11:51 AM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 456

no beer for you, Max...lol.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 11:52 AM by luke Highlight this comment 457

Does anybody else get really annoyed when Startrib puts up those breaking news headlines on their website that aren't Joe Mauer contract-watch related? I feel as if they should be disallowed from doing that until they have a Joe Mauer one. I don't give an eff about the budget, atleast not Breaking News eff.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 12:07 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 458

MLB At Bat app available now for $15 on iTunes. Audio will play in background this year. It would be great if the Twins made an app for fans going to Target Field. It could have FAQs, seating charts, photos, history, concession maps and menus.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 1:07 PM by Buzz Highlight this comment 459

Everyone should google image pics of chase field, minute maid park, and miller park, and just imagine as if these were the twins new stadium, it actually almost makes you sick how artificial, huge, commercial, and kitchy those stadiums are

I'm glad we will have target field.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 1:46 PM by dirwin7 Highlight this comment 460

Even though they are all new, they look almost outdated, those stadiums are the new dinosaurs of MLB in my opinion

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 1:48 PM by dirwin7 Highlight this comment 461

dirwin - or the new "cookie cutter" stadium, as we saw in the 70s (Veterans, Three Rivers, Riverfront, et.al.).

The more and more I think about it, the more and more I'm glad we DIDN'T build a "glorified gymnasium" as Kev in AZ puts it.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 2:01 PM by luke Highlight this comment 462

Can anyone tell me where the Will Call office is in relation to the light rail station? Thanks.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 2:01 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 463

Those stadiums aren't as "new" as you may think. It's hard to believe but Bank One Ballpark is now entering its 13th season while Enron Field is entering its 11th year and Miller Park its 10th season.

Even Camden Yards is entering its 19th season believe it or not.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 2:10 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 464

I believe that there is no longer a "Will Call" window. I think they now can print any ticket at any window if you hand them the credit card that paid for it.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 2:13 PM by Rick 465

dirwin -

I agree completely!!! I remember the anticipation I had of going to check out Miller Park, I also remember how disappointed I was when I actually sat in my seat. Sure, it was better than the Dome..no question about that. But it still didn't feel quite as "outside" as I thought it would be. It was watching a ballgame in a airplane hangar with a hole in the roof.

I recall many arguments I had with friends about whether or not the Twins should build a retractable dome....and man, am I glad they didn't.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 2:19 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 466

It would be great if the Twins made an app for fans going to Target Field. It could have FAQs, seating charts, photos, history, concession maps and menus.

I'm not sure the Twins could create a mobile phone app even if they wanted to. MLB used to let each club create and run its own unique team website, much like the NFL does. Then they took things in house and created MLB.com as we know it along with the 30 cookie cutter team websites. On that basis, mobile phone apps would likely be dictated and restricted by MLB.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 2:31 PM by Jorge Highlight this comment 467

And there is a ticket window right at the east end of the light rail station. Just walk towards downtown past the murals.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 2:32 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 468

Anybody know if concessions will be sold at the Open Houses later in the month? Would be cool to try out a few of the food/beer items now before the park really opens. It would probably also help them work out some of the kinks. I would sure enjoy having a brew or two while walking aimlessly around TF.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 2:35 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 469

Didn't get OD tickets, so I guess I will go to Target Plaza and listen to the game on the radio from there...

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 2:56 PM by Tom, OG Highlight this comment 470

OG Tom,

not to worry i just did a great job on my phone interview as i was told , and am moving on to another interview in person next week.

If I get this job then I i will put my seats on TC Traders, also the ones for the 14th.

I will prob have to miss about 70 percent of my package dammit!

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 3:22 PM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 471

Thanks for the info on Will Call - found out the hard way that you can't pick up Will Call tickets until March 15th (according to a Twins phone rep). Too bad they neglected to put that piece of info in the ticket purchase confirmation emails.

However my own Target Field ninja reported back a few minutes ago that the Twins reps at the main ticket gate at Target Plaza said that the season tickets are printed and getting ready for shipment.

She also said that Target Plaza and the Gate 34 Plaza entrance to the park are far more impressive in person than any of the pictures convey.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 3:27 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 472

Jorge, I think you're right there about any mobile app having to be run throught MLB.com. I know for a fact that ANY web update the team wants has to run through the MLB office. The updates themselves don't actually happen from a teams staff memeber, the MLB staff does it.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 3:27 PM by Faber College Alum Highlight this comment 473

My info says that there will be limited concessions at the Gophers game and more at both the exhibition games. For the Open Houses, I have one that says "Yes, concessions" and one that said "No", so I guess it's wait and see ...

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 3:31 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 474

Regarding any potential mobile phone ap - the Twins would have to contract it through MLBAM and couldn't simply develop one and throw it up on the web site.

Besides, in the time it would take them to do it, I'm sure Rick could code one that would be far superior. :)

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 3:33 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 475

In response to post #472, THAT is why I never worry about seeing "too much" or ruining "ah ha" moments for these stadiums. They are always so much more impressive in person. I was blown away by Nationals Park when I went there and that place is not close to the same tier as Target Field.

I saw hundreds and hundreds of pictures and videos of TCF Bank Stadium before I went and I couldn't believe how much more impressed I was being there. If anything, doing my research on the site allowed me to be even more overwhelmed because I knew what to look for going in.

It's so exciting that we are merely weeks away from getting to head inside this ballpark we have all been dreaming and obsessing over for years!

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 3:33 PM by ajndsu Highlight this comment 476

I heard that ST will ship on Monday. Not sure if exhibition game tickets will ship then as well, but we will see.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 3:46 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 477

....and what's the word on Standing Room Only tickets? Will they be available for sale on OD? What's the process for buying SRO tickets for other games?

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 3:49 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 478

jfh - I heard 'yes' for concessions at the STH open houses. They simply want the fans to be able to test out the various concessions. Not sure if its 100% true or not, but thats what I was told.

Last I heard, open house information could be sent out as early as late this week, but most likely, will be sent out next week as they finalize plans.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 3:49 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 479

I've said before how much I pity the folks whose job it is to maintain the Twins web site. It has to be an exercise in daily frustration.

A couple of years ago I almost wrote a front-end for their site because it was so difficult to navigate. I may yet do that... (I'm frying different fish right now, however.)

I've seen a few questions about SRO tix, and if the Twins are like other MLB teams, they'll be available on gameday only, probably only a couple of hours before the game. It's typically handled kind of like a rush line at a theater.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 4:06 PM by Rick 480

I haven't checked out the web cams in awhile, but the Best Buy ad is visible on web cam 1 and web cam 2 shows some bar stools on Bud Party Deck.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 4:16 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 481

Here's a link to a couple pics from last fall of them testing the scoreboards that I hadn't seen before

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 4:22 PM by dirwin7 Highlight this comment 482

Rick, that's the frustration I know for the Twins, no one there can actually maintain their own site.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 4:34 PM by Faber College Alum Highlight this comment 483

I have a friend who works concessions. He says he is working open houses, not just the gopher game/open house.
Monday makes sense for mailing tickets. March 5 is final payment due date.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 4:41 PM by robin Highlight this comment 484

Season ticket holder presale Monday and Tuesday. I wonder what will be left for the general public.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 4:45 PM by robin Highlight this comment 485

Regarding the Open House and food: What I read was that "fans will be able to sample the food offerings at Target Field". I can't remember where I read it, but it definitely agrees with what others have just recently stated.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 5:13 PM by TwinsTerritory Highlight this comment 486

For those wondering, I emailed the manager of promotions about when the schedule was going to come out because I was curious. She responded back saying that it will be out by Friday. So anytime between now and Friday.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 5:17 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 487

I guess nobody on here likes free beer. Is there anyone on this blog who has bought MLB 2K10, if so what's your opinion?

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 5:34 PM by HebrewHammer16 Highlight this comment 488

Haven't been here long so I apologize if this is an obvious question. Can someone point me to a photo that shows where the retired player numbers are honored at TF? Obviously some are honored with gate numbers but where inside the stadium?

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 5:35 PM by st. paul Paul Highlight this comment 489

I believe they will be posted on the facade of the admin. building in left field.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 5:51 PM by luke Highlight this comment 490

"For those wondering, I emailed the manager of promotions about when the schedule was going to come out because I was curious. She responded back saying that it will be out by Friday. So anytime between now and Friday."

That will be helpful to some in choosing single game tickets. My guess is that it is also a relatively short list, at least when it comes to anything "nice" or worthwhile.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 6:07 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 491

Using a video game oddly enough, here is where you'll see the retired numbers at Target Field this season:


Posted on March 2, 2010 at 6:12 PM by TwinsTerritory Highlight this comment 492

H Hammer,

My son ran out this morning and purchased it as my Christmas present(I told him that is what I wanted back in December). I have never played PS3 before today, so my guess is that you don't want my opinion.

The graphics look great, but way to complicated. It will take me months to figure out all of the controls. I did manage to walk the bases loaded an then give up a grand slam as my first attempt at pitching. All of my son's games up to this point have been racing and war games, so he really wasn't much help in showing me the ropes. I guess, I will spend the rest of spring training learning how to pitch and hit.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 6:13 PM by minn55441 Highlight this comment 493

I agree Ben, it probably will be in line with a lot of other parks. Believe it or not, the Twins gave away a lot of good stuff usually. I've looked at other ballpark's giveaways and they were crap compared to ours at the Dome. I've seen a few lists comparing ballparks over the years, the Dome was usually near the top of the league from a giveaway stand point. It generally was at the bottom of the league for most other categories, which we already all know.

Now that we don't likely don't need the promotions to draw fans, we'll probably be more equal to other ballparks. Hopefully they'll throw in a good thing here or there, but it shouldn't be necessary.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 494

AJ -- I agree with your comments. I will advance that one of the best giveaways I've received was a really nice KC Royals fleece blanket down in Kaufmann Stadium. We didn't need it that particular April weekend, but the Twins really need to do that giveaway during an April game next year.

I would assume they don't have to do much more than token stuff this year.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 7:14 PM by Linc Highlight this comment 495

http://www.swingforthecities.com/game.html

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 5:37 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 496

I'm a full season ticket holder and haven't gotten my info for the single-game presale. Has anyone else gotten the password/link for the presale yet?

Thanks

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 8:15 PM by Tom Highlight this comment 497

I am a full season ticket holder and haven't heard anything yet either. Seems like everything has been last minute this year. Previous years were a bit more organized.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 8:37 PM by Mike115 Highlight this comment 498

I just played my first TF game on MLB10 The Show for PS2.

Played the April 12 game against the Red Sox. Twins won 4-3. Denard Span hit a walk-off two-run homer in the bottom of the ninth.

TF looks very nice on the game.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 9:02 PM by luke Highlight this comment 499

I think the ball is going to be jumping off the bats at Target Field. I hit a ball 54,000 feet in that Target Field game!

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 9:10 PM by Boof Highlight this comment 500

Boof,

if you were pitching that is why you hit it that far

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 9:29 PM by dirwin7 Highlight this comment 501

New article about Target Field. Click my name to check it out!!

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 9:51 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 502

Charley Walters from the Pioneer Press says Jerry Bell and Mike Opat will throw out the first pitch on April 12th.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 9:53 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 503

Went to Target Field today, not quite the photo ops I was looking for (didn't know the hot spots), but got me really excited for opening day. I can confirm that there is an Advertisement for Best Buy, and another that looked to be US Bank, but do not quote me on that. I can also confirm the retired numbers area with circles. Also, in a couple of the photos at the end, there were the red, white, and blue bunting on one area, any idea what that would be for? Looked as though they were thoroughly testing all the video boards. Pro Shop looks stocked with merchandise and ready to go soon.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 9:55 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 504

I was just playing home run derby at Target Field on the show. Pujols hit one out of the ballpark in that gap between the admin building and left field bleachers. Morneau hit some out on to the plaza area.

Very addicting game already...

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 9:58 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 505

Great photos Josh. Thanks for sharing!!

Can someone please share the reason or history behind using bunting when new ballparks/stadiums open? I don't understand the tradition or meaning behind it.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 10:10 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 506

Expect to hear real soon about the presale.
Charley Walters also quotes Joe Mauer's dad and brother after a tour of Target Field as saying it will be good for hitters (because of the foul territory) and that Legend Club seats are the place to be.
Maybe I should have learned how to do video games. That one sounds good, that you guys are talking about.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 10:21 PM by robin Highlight this comment 507

So far I love The Show 10 and I haven't even played a game yet. During the intro of the game they also show some stat with highlights, and the first one was of the players who hot for the cycle in 2009, and the last set of highlights and emphasis was on Kubels cycle with game ending Grand Slam. AWESOME!

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 10:28 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 508

I think I've mentioned this before, but on every tour I've taken, I've come away thinking that the Legends Club seats will be the absolute best in the house.

I'm gonna save my pennies so one day I can buy into somebody's LC ticket group...

Note that I didn't say best value, but in terms of pure view of the game, I think they're the top tier.

Now that the full pricing structure is out, I think there are some serious values to be had, and a couple of places to completely avoid.

(I feel a new post coming on...)

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 10:30 PM by Rick 509

You think the view from the LC would really be better than from CC?

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 10:37 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 510

It would be very interesting to get your value ratings. I was thinking about that back when you had the post rating obstructions. I suppose there could be separate value categories for upper and lower levels. They're all gone now, but I was thinking best value might have been 2nd or 3rd row (avoiding the 10 dollar premium) in 103 and 125. $29 for season ticket holders, and same price as many upper level seats. Great angulation making up for the distance.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 10:39 PM by robin Highlight this comment 511

My ST should be a good value... Row 6 of 128 @ $18 each. Prime righty home run territory.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 10:44 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 512

CC might be best in the house, along with certain dugout box areas, if you don't mind being behind the net, but the price is so staggering it doesn't even cross my mind. It might be largely valued for the amenities, including parking. Of course different views of a baseball game are subjective, and variety is nice.
I talked to a fellow who bought CC (Champion Club) and had buyers remorse, wishing he had taken the much cheaper Legend Club instead, but only if they were close to home without being behind the net. (I wish I had that problem!)
Oh, I read that article just linked by Jeff and I expect to feel the same rush he is describing, comparable to the first time entering a real major league ball park as a kid.

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 10:47 PM by robin Highlight this comment 513

It'll always be subjective. The Champion's Club seats are very intimate to the action.

But the Legend's Club still feels very tight, and has a better overall view of the field. Some of the subtleties of the game will be easier to pick up from just that little bit higher. (I'm assuming that everybody here does care to some degree about the subtleties of the game.)

Beyond that, the LC sections are small enough to have a very intimate ("neighborhood" if you will) feel all their own, without that damnable moat. The comings and goings of other fans probably will be less disruptive (this is still guesswork to a degree), and though you will be sequestered, that fact isn't quite as obvious.

Of course, this is just an impression from walking tours. I'm going to have to see a few games from each (hey, I can dream, right?) and then I'll give you a detailed, first-hand account...

Posted on March 2, 2010 at 10:54 PM by Rick 514

I was going to add that there can be an advantage to a little elevation in viewing the game, and I hear these club seats are closer to the action than many other venues.
jimmer, 128 at $18 sounds like a great value. I was looking at 229 or 230 as a good value if I could have gotten first couple rows. Same with skyline around 323 at $12 each, but other people had the same idea and those first few rows filled up from the expensive dugout boxes up to the skyline and outfield seats.
Back to club seats, I've been told you can get a good view of the game from inside if the weather is nasty and you want to take a few innings break from it, and maybe less crowded than the Wild Club area.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 05:16 AM by robin Highlight this comment 515

Rick, do you have a preference for first or third base side, or home plate vantage for viewing the action, picking up on more things, etc?

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 05:17 AM by robin Highlight this comment 516

Incidentally, that Span homerun that won the game I played, actually hit the roof of the Target Center...lol.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 06:58 AM by luke Highlight this comment 517

I took a quick look at thew webcam this morning, and it appears that the temporary barriers that ran across the plaza from the ticket windows to the Tradition Wall are now gone.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 07:21 AM by Natron Highlight this comment 518

Natron,

Dang, I was a day late on that! Oh well.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 08:13 AM by Josh Highlight this comment 519

I may be wrong, but it looks like they just moved the barriers to get some trucks in. It looks like there is some type of event happening just inside Kirby's gate.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 08:59 AM by minn55441 Highlight this comment 520

Eddieshore over at baseball fever reports his season tick rep confirms sellout of OD. No word on standing room only tickets yet.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 09:13 AM by Jared Highlight this comment 521

regardless of what mass production dogs they go with, downtown journal yesterday says that Kramarczuk's sausages will be featured in at least a couple of carts around the park

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 09:18 AM by mplsgreg Highlight this comment 522

Is it Joe Mauer signing day on the plaza? Or is it just Joe Rube tour day? it doesn't appear to be construction related...

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 10:15 AM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 523

Yeah there are a lot of people by the foul pole. God I want to end Joe Mauer contract-watch. It has been oh-so boring.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 10:30 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 524

Looks like NBA City is turning into Huberts II. Should be a good move. It says they are opening a patio that is basically on the plaza entry. I went to NBA City once...on the 12 Bars of Christmas bar crawl. Won't be sad to see it close.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 10:35 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 525

The update this morning for MLB 10 the Show has fixed the backstop at Target Field. It is now limestone!!

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 10:36 AM by Ryguy213 Highlight this comment 526

It doesn't say it in the article I don't think, but on Twitter someone said it will be open in time for Opening Day.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 10:36 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 527

That is definitely good news, DVS. Hubert's was the ONE thing I was sad about missing, when I first learned of the new stadium and where it would be. I'm glad to see them coming along with the Twins!

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 10:41 AM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 528

And a PRIME spot they've secured...the first bar/restaurant people will reach on the way out of the plaza.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 10:43 AM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 529

Yeah I'm definitely happy about it. WCCO article says that it will be open by April 2nd I guess. Sweet! My pre-game spot of choice will definitely be the Loon though. Already promised my 2 friends who I am going to OD with that I've got the first 2 rounds of grape apes there.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 10:46 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 530

While it's a good move to get rid of NBA City, it's not like there will be a shortage of bars open every game day. Hubert's will be a clusterfuck, though.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 10:49 AM by Chad Highlight this comment 531

Good for Hubert's. I have no idea what their ownership structure was but assuming it was someone local their business nearly dried up overnight by going from 81 baseball + 10 football to just 10 football games. Does anyone know if they intend to try and keep the original location open? How can you pay rent in that location and only 10 profitable dates a year? Maybe I'm wrong.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 10:56 AM by JCTwins Highlight this comment 532

True, but that is not any different than Huberts other location. I guess it is reliving tradition that I look forward to the most.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 10:57 AM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 533

Both Huberts will stay open. Ralph Burnet is his new partner for Huberts II, who already owned NBA City. From the BizJournal article it sounds as if Burnet will just convert NBA City to Huberts and the owner of Huberts will be his partner there.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 11:06 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 534

JCTwins,

I would guess that the original Hubert's still might do a brisk lunch/after work business with all of those HCMC employees sitting right on top of them. Who knows? Maybe the Vikings/MSFC/hospital have something up their sleeve with regards to that property.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 11:09 AM by AndyG Highlight this comment 535

If you look at the Webcam 1 right now they are clearly setting up a stage right now just through the Puckett gate. Not sure what this could be, but it is interesting none the less.

I also just got an automated call from the Twins. If you are a STH and you haven't gotten your password yet for the pre-sale for single game tickets call 612-370-4575.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 11:13 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 536

Ryguy213 - that is good to hear regarding the update! How do you get this update or does it automatically update when you turn on your PS3 system?

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 11:24 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 537

Huberts 1 will stay busy, I talked to the bartender during twinsfest and he said they are going to offer free parking with a 10 dollar food/bev credit if you spend 20 bucks on game days..i forgot if they are offering rides to TF or a light rail ticket too...

sounds like a great deal if you wanna go a lil slower pace and be able to get out of downtown after a game at a decent hour

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 11:26 AM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 538

I also got my auto call about pre sale for reg tickets... limit 8 per game... i am seriously wondering iff there will be any left for non season ticket holders

the only thing i will buy is if i can get overhang tickets.. do you think these will be avalible?

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 11:30 AM by mazaratirick Highlight this comment 539

Take a look at this guys Twitter. It looks like walked right on into TF. A ninja without knowing it seems. He says they are filming a commercial there, not setting up a stage.

I walked over there during lunch but didn't go past the barricade even though it was open. Majestic club house does look to be opening tomorrow or even today. Evetything was set up. Crazy improvement from Monday.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 12:09 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 540

Video from WCCO with the first site of grass!!! Click my name

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 12:23 PM by Jeff Highlight this comment 541

The activity at Target Field is most likely the commercial they are filming using Target team members.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 12:28 PM by IowaWigman Highlight this comment 542

Pretty sweet that the grass still looks pretty damn green. I was afraid it would be quite brown like the grass that is appearing my by back yard.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 12:41 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 543

I really need to start proofreading my posts or the grammar Nazi's will be after me....

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 12:47 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 544

Does anyone know if we will be required to enter through a certain gate like we had to at the Metrodome?

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 12:47 PM by Rusty Shackleford Highlight this comment 545

Mike,

It was an automatic update when I turned on thi game this morning.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 12:49 PM by Ryguy213 Highlight this comment 546

I dont think they will be as strict at the new park since some of the gates are really inconvenient to get to. Also, people will move through a lot faster since there isn't a revolving door past the ticket takers for people to wait their turn for. I would think most people will enter through the plaza or in center field, unless they take the LRT.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 12:53 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 547

Rusty,

I doubt you will be required to go in a specific gate. I used to go in the wrong gate at the Dome all the time. I would enter where I get the beer I like then wander over to my seats about half way around. The only time I was ever stopped was when I had an upper gate ticket and I was trying to go into a lower gate. At TF they are all lower gates so it should be no issue.

Rick,

So you need access to LC tickets? My ticket group has seats in Sec B. I have a feeling I'll use all my games, but I'll keep you (all) in mind if anyone tries to sell a pair. Plus my concierge at work has Sec M. They go onsale 3/9, 2 or 4 tickets, $57 each. Do you want me to try and get you a specific game? (not all are available)

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 12:57 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 548

My understanding is that you will be able to enter at any gate. It just wouldn't make sense to force someone getting off the LRT to walk all the way around and enter through Gate 34 for any reason.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 12:58 PM by Rick 549

During Monday and Tuesday's pre-sale of single game tickets, I wonder what seats will be available. I know we have talked in the past about holding back select tickets for future season ticket sales, but how many do you feel they will set aside?

Specifically, will some of the unsold Legends club seating become available? How about some of the Home Plate box? I don't think they have completely sold out these sections, but will they put them up for sale at this time? In one interview it was mentioned that the Legends club sold much quicker than they had forcast and that they should have priced them a little higher. Does this mean that they did sell out these sections?

I thought I would try out 4 or 5 different areas of the park in preparation for next years seat selection. It doesn't hurt to make an informed decision based on seats you have actually watched a game from.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 12:59 PM by minn55441 Highlight this comment 550

"I would think most people will enter through the plaza or in center field, unless they take the LRT."

Back when the flagpole was slated to be installed at the downtown end of the plaza the "studies" projected that "35 to 40" % of those entering TF would pass by it.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 1:06 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 551

Nice to see hat Huberts bar is opening up a location where NBA City used to be. It'll have an outdoor seating area by the entrance to Target Plaza. This will be nice

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 1:11 PM by MB Highlight this comment 552

"During Monday and Tuesday's pre-sale of single game tickets, I wonder what seats will be available."

"Good" seats are NEVER available on the pre-sale - at least they never were (except for back in the days when they couldn't give them away). At the Dump what you would typically see were far down the lines in the "sore neck" areas and nosebleed. Nice seats are held back until the bitter end for possible ST sales. Maybe some odd single seats here and there that they know will not sell as ST will be available but mostly seats they are confident are not ST quality.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 1:16 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 553

From what I have heard, and it only makes sense, is that you will not be required to enter a certain gate. There really is no reason to designate gate assignments with Target Plaza, the Promenade, Transit Stations, and the 360 degree open concourse. You were never required to enter a certain gate at Metrodome unless you had upper level seats and were entering a lower level gate, they may have stopped you in that case. The only reason they printed gate designations on tickets was for your convenience. That way you would enter the gate nearest your seat.

The Twins have mentioned numerous times, Target Plaza will serve as a "front door" to the ballpark meaning a majority of fans (perhaps 40-50%, it not, more??) will simply enter Target Field through Gate 34 and/or Gate 29. Light Rail/North Star patrons would most likely enter through Gate 6.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 1:16 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 554

Has anyone else felt the urge to snow-blow a grid in their front yard...?

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 1:31 PM by Brandon T Highlight this comment 555

Hey Guys,
I just turned my cell phone on (battery died overnight) and have not gotten a Voicemail from the Twins about my password for the presale as a Full season ticket holder.

Has anyone else not gotten the call?

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 1:41 PM by Tom Highlight this comment 556

Apparently MLB 10: The Show has released a patch that fixes the backstop at Target Field!

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 1:53 PM by TwinsTerritory Highlight this comment 557

They hit the outfield. Movin' snow pretty quick now...by the end of the day Friday, all the snow should be off the field. When do you think they will take the tarp off?

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 1:59 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 558

I always had problems going into other gates when I bought general admission tickets. And I wasn't trying to get in down below, I was trying gates E & G which were upper. I even remember them blocking off the general admission from the other sections up there and they wouldn't let you walk the full upper concourse/concession area. They had people guarding them. That didn't last long, but it happened.

I must have bad luck as far as the gates though. I always found the ticket people who cared and made me go in the right gate.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 2:46 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 559

Re Legends Club Open House and Legends Club tix for the Gophers game.

Here are the questions I emailed to a Twins ticket rep, and the response:

Questions:

"I'm hearing various reports as to when the Open House for Legends Club season ticket holders will be. Can you confirm a date/time?

Also, will the Legends Club be open for the Gophers baseball game on March 27th and will Legends Club season ticket holders have a chance to buy tickets?"

Response:

"The Legend’s Club Open House is scheduled for March 19th from 4pm-8pm. You should be receiving an invitation and tickets in the mail shortly.

The Legends Club will be available for viewing during the March 27th Gopher Game; however, seats will not be sold for the game specifically."

So, contrary to what was earlier reported here, it does not look like Legends Club ticket holders will have any special opportunity to buy tickets to the Gophers game.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 2:47 PM by msp Highlight this comment 560

new story on the Twins website about Target Plaza opening on March 13. click my name for story.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 2:49 PM by Dan Highlight this comment 561

I forgot to add that I already asked someone about gate entering and all of that a few months ago. You can enter from anywhere.

And if you have upper level tickets, you can still go to the lower level whenever you want because there are many things in the lower level that aren't in the upper level (Hrbek's, for example). They won't be restricting that anymore.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 2:55 PM by AJ Highlight this comment 562

For those Joe Mauer fans who want to see the ESPN Homecoming special filmed at Cretin-Derham Hall...This from Shooter:

The ESPN "Homecoming" special on Twins all-star catcher Joe Mauer filmed last month at alma mater Cretin-Derham Hall will be aired at 4 p.m. Saturday, April 10, on ABC-TV. Then ESPN will air the program at 8 p.m. April 12 p.m. after the Twins-Boston Red Sox season opener at Target Field.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 4:23 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 563

Did somebody mention that Twins STH get a discount at the Majestic Clubhouse? Does anybody know how much it is? I don't have any type of STH card yet--assuming that will come with my tickets next week.

Twins Twitter earlier today said those won't be mailed out until late next week BTW.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 4:26 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 564

Thoughts on Hubert's at the gateway to TF?

They better cash in on the nostalgia and excellent location (courtesy of Ralph Burnet), because the food/ambience/cleanliness left a lot to be desired by the Metrodome. Also, I think it will be interesting because they no longer have a "monopoly" of sorts with competition from all of the Warehouse District/North Loop/Block E/Downtown establishments within easy walking distance of Target Field.

Rick: Are you compiling a comprehensive TF guide for the site? Parking/Dining/Bars/etc. I think an overhead shot/overview of all the streets with the establishments laid out would be tremendous.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 4:26 PM by Max Highlight this comment 565

DVS2008 - I am pretty sure last year the discount for STH was 20% at the proshops. I am 90% sure.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 4:37 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 566

I remember hearing it was 20% as well. Hope so, because I'm going to walk over there one day on my lunch and pick up a new jersey. Not sure which one exactly, but we shall see. Would love a Slowey jersey but they didn't seem to have them there today.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 4:42 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 567

Nice pics of snow removal...clicky...

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 4:42 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 568

I'm glad Hubert's is moving. Will it have a new name?
I wish some of the places at Block E, i.e. GameWorks had waited a year for ballpark traffic before shutting down.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 4:43 PM by luke Highlight this comment 569

I'm headed downtown for a concert on Saturday night and was gonna head down early to see if the Pro Shop is open to pick up some apparel as well. I talked with a Twins rep and she said that the Grand Opening of the store is the 13th, but there will be a soft opening roughly a week before that, but she wasn't exactly sure when that would be.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 4:49 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 570

Once we get out of the economy toilet, hopefully Block E will get a revival...

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 4:51 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 571

To follow up on comments regarding CC and LC views / vantage points - the biggest advantage that the Champions Club has (not counting the amenities) - proximity to the field - is also the biggest drawback.

I have sat directly behind home plate in CC type areas in a number of parks and you notice two things: (1) the net and (2) because you are pretty much at field level, judging a ball to the outfield is very difficult - many times you can only tell the difference between a popup and a home run by the sound of the bat.

I would never have season tickets in such an area (even if I could afford them) for just that reason, though I do enjoy sitting directly behind the plate for a couple games a season (and I'll I get some CC tickets this year for a game or two). The CC seats are for the overall experience or "status appeal", not for watching the game.

Rick - I would love to see a post with your impressions of "best seats" and "best values". For me, I'd put Legends Club seats in both categories (in best value partially because of the LC level bars/amenities) and put Home Plate Terrace at the top of the best value category.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 5:09 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 572

Actually, I misunderstood, and didn't have time to read all the comments on here, so I'll correct myself. I thought Hubert's was moving out of their across-from-Gate-F location and occupying NBA City.

I didn't realize they were doing a second installment of Hubert's, keeping their current Gate F location. 2 Hubert's are better than one!

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 5:11 PM by luke Highlight this comment 573

trosy29,

Thanks for the link to the pics. It looks like in Treasure Island is confirmed as another scoreboard sponsor in the last pic.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 5:28 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 574

Brandon-

I didn't until you said it, I just about hopped up and did it once you did.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 6:37 PM by Sass Highlight this comment 575

I second that thought, jfh.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 6:42 PM by robin Highlight this comment 576

If you look at the third pic in Trosy's set, you see both the White Sox and the Tigers records tied at 100-62. Boy the East and West teams are going to get hammered, since we have to assume the Twins would then be 101-61. And Cleveland and KC must both be finishing at under 60 wins! What a race it is going to be!

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 7:23 PM by Linc Highlight this comment 577

Sony released a patch today that fixes the Target Field backstop to limestone in MLB 10 The Show.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 7:28 PM by OG Jeff Highlight this comment 578

Garrison Keillor weighs in on Target Field. From the NY Times- click link

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 7:37 PM by some guy Highlight this comment 579

Have the Twins announced their Promotion Schedule yet?

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 8:21 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 580

That pic of Larry D standing on the expansive snowy field with nothing but a small shovel might be the most pathetic thing I've ever seen. Bless him.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 8:46 PM by Brandon T Highlight this comment 581

Sorry, it took a while to upload...More Plaza.

30 Images. Plaza. Puckett Gate. Ticket Window. Right field. Plaza bathroom (had to throw that one in there for Kevin in AZ).

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 9:56 PM by Jared Highlight this comment 582

Luke, Gameworks isn't closed, at least it wasn't a week or so ago when I went to a T-Wolves game. I know they were looking to sublet their location, but they never found anybody and they are still open.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 9:59 PM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 583

GREAT set of photos Jared..

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 10:01 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 584

max - i could not agree more in regards to huberts. the original location by the dome left a lot to be desired. they only did the business they did due to the fact taht they had a virtual monopoly in terms of being the only decent sizsed sports bar right next to the dome. they knew that and took advantage of it at the expense of being a better sports bar.

with gophers football and the twins gone from the dome now i did not see the original location doing too much business other than during vikings games and some other events. they might actually have to try now at the original location if they want to stick around.

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 10:09 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 585

Jared - THANKS! for the great photos.

Have to say, there there are little things that this ballpark has that a lot don't. DETAILS!! Take a look at the 8th picture of Jared's set. It is the photo of the section signage on the concrete columns. THEY ARE LIT!! These are the small little details that are make this park great. Hopefully there are many many more of these little things we will all stumble upon once we all get in there and do our investigating.

April 2nd will be my day for that. 12th is reserved just to watch baseball...

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 10:12 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 586

Interesting article in Star Tribune about potential advertising on the walls of Target Center

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 11:08 PM by Mike Highlight this comment 587

so drove around TF today and then play the show (at best buy) not easy controls, takes getting used to. I threw all balls, went thru the entire batting order-looks sweet tho. So, sorry if this has been answered, but for the gopher game, can you just walk up to get tix or would they need to be purchased ahead of time and if so where at?

Posted on March 3, 2010 at 11:17 PM by The Sooj Highlight this comment 588

The gopher game tickets are going to be sold on the day of the game only at twins ticket outlets I think starting at 8 or 9 in the am.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 01:30 AM by Leroy Highlight this comment 589

and they're capping sales at 25,000 or so.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 05:22 AM by robin Highlight this comment 590

Of all the opinions and things written in the press about Target field, Garrison Keillor's has to be the LEAST pertinent.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 06:35 AM by outstate Highlight this comment 591

Josh-
The promotion schedule should be out between today and tomorrow. At least that's what I was told. I didn't see it on Tuesday, but didn't look yesterday or today.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 07:00 AM by AJ Highlight this comment 592

Outstate, I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with your analysis. Keillor is a Minnesotan and a Twins fan and he has every right to use his space in a national publication to write about Target Field. not to mention, when I showed that article to some friends in other parts of the country via Facebook, they actually enjoyed it and said that Target Field must be some park the way he was glowing about it. Now, you're welcome to your opinion on Keillor's work. All the same, to claim that his opinion is somehow the "least" important is a bit of an overstatement.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 07:03 AM by jpberka Highlight this comment 593

outstate: Did you actually read the article? Political differences aside, Keillor hit it right on the head with phrases like "We Minnesotans have been watching baseball in a basement for 28 years..." and "...so I headed south to my favorite medical clinic to make sure I’d live until Opening Day." To me, that's the a perfectly logical way for a person to react to that ol' ballpark magic. Maybe you just don't like it that a liberal can enjoy outdoor baseball, too?

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 07:13 AM by schweady Highlight this comment 594

Hey Mike,
So that's why they made that notch in the left field seats. Ha ha.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 07:14 AM by Tommy Highlight this comment 595

Jared -- those are fabulous pictures. I've sort of wondered if just hanging out on the plaza some evening after work and listening to the ballgame would be fun for a few innings, and seeing that those pictures makes me think it really could be, especially at dusk.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 07:23 AM by Linc Highlight this comment 596

The front page of this morning’s Pioneer Press was funny. Atop the front page was a nice full color picture of the out of town scoreboard and DeVito clearing snow. Caption: so THAT’S what the roof was for!

Incidentally, sans snow, I think the last couple days would have been great for outdoor baseball.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 07:40 AM by luke Highlight this comment 597

Great picture of the Killer in the Pioneer Press yesterday, too, along with a nice story about this consistently all-around nice guy. Nice to see him recovering from his recent health problems.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 07:51 AM by schweady Highlight this comment 598

jpberka:

Importance and pertinence are two different things.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 07:59 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 599

Thanks for the kind words. Don't forget to go all the way through the image set. There are a bunch of views from different angles. We went right up to the Puckett Gate and have great shots looking towards downtown from the Puckett Gate and a few shots of the plaza from the parking ramp. They had taken the fencing off of the construction barriers and left them open as if you could walk the plaza then. So we meandered through. There were others there, camera crews, people in the ticket windows working and no one said anything. It appears as the barriers are in "blocking" position again today so we lucked out and were able to walk the plaza. I just realized too that for some reason all the lights appear to be a purple-ish color in most of the pictures. I swear they can be other colors and we tried to capture them but for some odd reason we ended up with the purple hues. :) I have re-linked the entire set (old and new) for everyone. Kind of a where we were, to where we are now review.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 08:29 AM by Jared Highlight this comment 600

Ben is so smart.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 08:33 AM by Wanda Phillips Highlight this comment 601

I suppose we could discuss what is, and is not, germane to the issue but no sense getting into ethnicity.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 08:54 AM by Ben Highlight this comment 602

Apparently, I owe an apology and an expansion on my previous post. I am fully aware who Garrison Keilor is. I have been a somewhat avid listener of his program for 25 years. I have read several of his novels and as a lifelong Minnesota native, have always enjoyed talking about his keen observations about life here to friends and family throughout other parts of the country who are also familiar with his work. That having been said, the reason for my post has to do with exactly what I said. The pertinance of his "opinion", not the importance of it or even his right to it. (Thanks for noticing Ben) I did read the article, which is why I posted, and overall, it was a great read. I doubt there would be many who possess the ability to expound on what it is to be a Minnesotan, a Twins fan, or the saga that has been our reality from the old Met, through the Dome and now on to Target field, the way Garrison could. What I was objecting to was his mixing of my particular passion and escape from the realities of our current world, baseball and my Twins, as a way to once again promote his particular "opinion" about the merits of government and its role in our lives. I listen to Garrison for entertainment and appreciated him more when it was just that. I read about and follow baseball for enjoyment and for the love of the game and prefer not to have a political sermon intermixed. As for liberals and their ability to watch outdoor baseball schweady, I was most irritated by the "nabob" comment, as if the privileged are the only ones who will be enjoying the nicer ammeneties at the new park. That was a useless comment and nothing more than condescending false humility and a pander to his NY Times readers. One of the things I love about baseball is that it brings people from all persuasions together and gives them something beautiful and harmless to have in common.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 09:23 AM by outstate Highlight this comment 603

seriously with the long boring posts that no one reads.... anyways speaking of long and boring did anyone see reusse's article in the strib today? what a crummudgeon! when you start spouting the "your generation sucks and mine is great" rhetoric it's time to start looking at nice nursing homes. After all Patrick, I believe it was your generation making the decision to tear down the Met and build the Mall of America...

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 09:36 AM by mplsgreg Highlight this comment 604

Reusse is by far my least favorite Twins writer, even moreso than Shooter who drives me mad. What is Reusse's problem? Get over it old man! How can he seriously sit there and bitch about the park offering too many ammenities, and then romanticize a "cup" of Hamms. Give me a break old man--and believe me I drank my fair share of Hamms in college and have interest in having another.

The whole thing about him being slighted by Bell and St Peter after suggesting they use Met-colored panels on the exterior is telling. It is more about him not having an important voice in the process than the actual points he brings up. Guy is a hack.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 09:52 AM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 605

the tarp is off the infield. We have a grass field.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 10:10 AM by minn55441 Highlight this comment 606

I'm back to refreshing the webcam! Suck it, old man winter.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 10:24 AM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 607

DreDogg - Ditto! I took about a 4 month break from checking/refreshing the webcam everyday. Now, back to my old habits...

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 10:31 AM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 608

What's it matter to Reusse when he will be sitting in the pressbox with his media credentials and not have to pay to go to games but rather get paid to go to games...Hard to complain when you are a member of the media.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 10:53 AM by Mike Highlight this comment 609

It seems odd that they haven't concentrated their efforts into removing the snow from right field. That part of the field receives the least amount of sun during the day. You would think that they would want to remove that area first. But what do I know. Larry probably has a master plan in place...

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 11:03 AM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 610

I agree, outstate. No matter how strongly he believes those political statements of his to be, those were totally disjointed and belonged in another article. The 'nabobs' comment? I read that as an innocent "Hey you guys! Enjoy your shrimp cocktail between innings but get yourself outside once in a while! There's a game going on out there!"

In large part, I was enjoying the fact that a largely NY audience was presented with such a heartfelt piece extolling the beauty of our tidy little ballpark.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 11:07 AM by schweady Highlight this comment 611

I think Keillor's jibe and political views were perfectly warranted in that article. After all, it is the same people who complain about the government and start cries of "SOCIALISM!!!" at the drop of a hat that are the first to bitch and complain about the Legislature not doing enough to keep the Vikings with a new stadium. Keillor's comments just help to highlight the hypocritical nature of such people.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 11:55 AM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 612

Uh oh...This GK article might spawn the dreaded "political spin off". Someone change the subject...quickly!

I'll try...

Will the wind veil/topiary lights be turned on at night, even if there is no game? If they are expecting Target Plaza to be this pedestrian friendly area, it would make sense to have the lights on every night.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 12:17 PM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 613

Outstate,

I hate to do this to you, but know that was an op-ed right? That is the point of the damn thing, to promote your "opinion"

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 12:24 PM by dirwin7 Highlight this comment 614

they are shoveling snow off right field as we speak, and literally carrying it outside.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 12:27 PM by robin Highlight this comment 615

Aren't they already 'outside'?

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 12:47 PM by Steeks Highlight this comment 616

I think she meant outside of the ballpark steeks...;-)

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 12:49 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 617

Barricades along 5th Street have been (mostly) removed. You can now walk up to Oliva Gate and peer in. Killebrew Gate is still taped off as they finish off some concrete work. The wonky light on the middle mural has also been fixed. Getting close!

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 12:57 PM by Badjuggler Highlight this comment 618

You're right DVS2008. Could Reusse be any more of a misanthrope? I guess he would prefered some cheap a$$ POS stadium instead. Not to be knockin' the Met as I was 2 when the Twins stopped playing there, but wtf is wrong with him? Screw him. That article really ticked me the hell off.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 12:58 PM by DeePee Highlight this comment 619

Reusse is really showing his true colors in that article. I thought the Limestone and glass make sense to fit in with the Target Center and the buildings downtown. As far as the amenities, every ballpark has them and he has to face the fact that more than half the people at a baseball game aren't like me or you; they are not there to see every pitch and pick up on the subtleties of the game. I read once that the marketing guy for the Cubs (Wrigley Field, mind you..) thought that if you just sold tickets to pure baseball fans, that would only last until Mother's Day. And, as someone already pointed out, Reusse will be in the pressbox for free every game anyway. I'd be happy to change spots with the ungrateful bastard!! What a dinosaur!

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 1:08 PM by Ole Highlight this comment 620

Is there really anybody who would rather have the Met panels on the outside, now that you have seen how great the limestone and louvres look? You wouldn't have the modern feel anymore, since you would basically be taking your park back to 1960. Sorry Reusse that they didn't listen to your "genius" idea (in reality, I bet those two shrugged it off because they probably heard that 50 times a day), but just shut your pie hole. Do you think he is going to be complaining about the upgraded press boxes? Doubtful...well actually he might get pissed about not getting free hot dogs anymore. Actually, now that I think of it that is probably why he is so upset!

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 1:15 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 621

So maybe this isn't the right place to ask this, but is there anyone that wants to go in on season tickets? I am looking to do a 20 game plan. I thought that this would be a great way to cut down on the cost a bit for people. Or maybe Rick could organize this too.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 1:15 PM by Josh Highlight this comment 622

I'm glad the park didn't go overboard in old Met nostalgia by using multi colored bricks. The new park should have its own identity and style rather than aping the look and feel of another park be it the Met, Camden Yards, Fenway or Coors Field.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 1:37 PM by Jorge Highlight this comment 623

I can sort of see where Ruesse is coming from....and I kind of agree. I've been pretty vocal about my "anti-playground" position. I too think that many of the new ballparks have gone out of their way to cater to the "semi-interested-baseball-fans-who-feel-the-need-to-take-the-whole-family-wherever-they-go" crowd. While I understand the purpose behind that is the almighty $....that doesn't mean I, or Ruesse, have to like it. There are many of us who just want a simple outdoor ballpark with an organ. But I think we'll survive. ;-)

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 1:40 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 624

Let me re-state it. I SHOULD have said the "semi-interested-baseball-fans-who-feel-the-need-to-take-their-little kids-who-are-too-young-to-understand-the-game-and-can't-sit-still-for-a-couple-of-hours" crowd

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 1:43 PM by Fred Highlight this comment 625

OG Jeff,

How do you get the patch for Target Field? I bought The Show and a PS3 yesterday (man that game is fun). Also can you get updated rosters I saw that the Twins dont have the O-dog Orlando Hudson on there roster.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 1:59 PM by firedog Highlight this comment 626

Firedog, first make sure your PS3 has an account to logon to the servers (That should have been one of the first steps you did when you first turned the machine on).

The update will pop up on your screen when you start the game. I downloaded it last night.

To update the rosters, logon to the online server in the game. Go to the menu that has the "Save Live Roster" option (or something like that). Save it to the hard drive. Exit the online mode, load the saved roster and then start your season/franchise.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 2:08 PM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 627

I also noticed with the live roster that The Show puts Hudson at SS and Hardy at second base, so you have to swap their positions if you want it to be more realistic. (God, listen to me. I'm a step away from a Star Trek convention.)

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 2:22 PM by The Truth Hurts Highlight this comment 628

Shooter says that close to 22,000 FSE's have been sold for 2010. He also goes on to state that 10K a game are sold to groups? That figure sounds absurdly high.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 2:33 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 629

well, the Roof Deck is almost completely sold out, and that's what, 2500 a game?

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 2:49 PM by robin Highlight this comment 630

The budweiser roof deck only hold 250...

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 2:54 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 631

Somebody should tell Reusse about the flag pole. And the Metropolitan Club. And the four gates numbered for Twins who played at the Met. And the 573 Club. And...

Some people simply must say nay.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 3:22 PM by Rick 632

The first time I saw that commercial with Joe Mauer for MLB: The Show... I got down on both knees, looked up at the sky and screamed..

"THANK YOU LORD,JOE DOES HAVE A PERSONALITY!"

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 3:23 PM by Brandon T Highlight this comment 633

TTH and Firedog,

In addition to the Hardy/O-Dog mix-up, the online rosters for The Show also have Thome playing in RF and Cuddyer at 1B and Morneau on the bench in a couple of the lineups. Also, I believe Neshek is in AAA. Obviously, the staff is not set yet, but you'll want to be sure to look at the lineups and adjust them to your preference. I just thought it was odd that they would even consider Thome in RF. The other thing is that O-Dog's number needs to be changed from 13 to 1, and Casilla needs to change from 35 to 12 (he used to be 25, but gave that number to Thome).

TTH, I guess this means that I'll see you at the convention.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 3:24 PM by The Rational Actor Highlight this comment 634

Josh,

I might (need to clear it with the wife) be interested in joining your STH group. Shoot me an email, so we can discuss it offline.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 3:27 PM by Tyler Highlight this comment 635

Yea, that roster is all jacked up. But I don't mind spending the time to correct it. I am one of those nerds that has to adjust the roster/lineups/pitching rotation to my preference. Plus I had to create a player to play 3rd (myself). You think I was going to play a season with a Punto/Harris platoon at 3rd? HA!

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 3:35 PM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 636

Reusse could have tempered his tone and chosen his words a bit more carefully - but, there is some substance to what he says. To an ever larger degree, it seems not to be about the game anymore. How often have you sat amongst people who arrived in the second inning, yip-yapped constantly, made three trips to the concourses, and then left in the seventh? It seems as though the more a person spends for a seat the less interested he (or she) is in using it for it's intended purpose. At any given time there seems to be about 10% of the crowd up and moving. Do you see that a movie? If not, do you think maybe the reason is that people go to movies to actually watch the movie?

Rick: I find at least two writers commenting in the Reusse piece bring up the pole.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 3:43 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 637

--- "at" a movie. ---

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 3:46 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 638

Well, I don't disagree, but it's something of a hey-you-kids-get-outta-my-yard sort of point.

Where Reusse goes wrong is that Target Field, by virtue of its very design, is part of the answer -- not the problem.

And knocking the limestone? I bet Reusse would kick Alessandra Ambrosio out of bed for being too tan and supple when he really should be thanking his lucky stars he gets to exist on the same planet.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 3:52 PM by Rick 639

Quick questions about the presales...

Was the OD presale only for partial STH? I feel like it was for all STH, but I could be wrong.

When is the regular season presale?

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 4:00 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 640

Only for partials on the OD.
Other games presale is Monday and Tuesday for STH. Full and partial, I assume. You should have a phone call or email on that.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 4:07 PM by robin Highlight this comment 641

Thanks robin. I had on idea on OD. I am asking because I am a part of a group and I think we should utilize the presale. If the 22k FSE + 10k groups (?!?!) figures are correct it is gonna be a tough ticket all year. Could we really have a full season sell out?

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 4:13 PM by CSG Mike Highlight this comment 642

I thought the promotion schedule was supposed to be out today . . . guess not. :(

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 4:23 PM by st. paul Paul Highlight this comment 643

I can't believe I said 2500 instead of 250 for the Roof Deck. My mistake. Group sales in general start at 25 so it would take a lot of multiples of 25. And historically a lot of groups cancel or reduce their allotment before the game. Maybe not this year.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 4:41 PM by robin Highlight this comment 644

There is no way that group tickets are going to eat up 10K tickets per game. Maybe 1000 or 2000, but not 10K...He got wrong info from somewhere...

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 4:44 PM by trosy29 Highlight this comment 645

I need a clarification here so I can fully appreciate DePee's comments about Ruesse's piece in the strib. What did the "POS" stand for? I always new it as "Point of Sale," from my days in the restaurant business, but I figured that it probably didn't apply here.

By the way, I would think Ol' Pat, more than most in the fourth estate, would appreciate a newer, far more spacious press box.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 4:51 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 646

Not unless the entire congregation of Grace Church is in on group plans.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 4:52 PM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 647

POS = piece of poop

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 4:58 PM by st. paul Paul Highlight this comment 648

The Twins have reversed themselves - after getting an email in December indicating (or strongly implying) that as a LC member I would be able to get tickets to the Gophers game on the 27th and being told by season ticket staff that I would, I asked the same exec for clarification after reading recent comments here.

Sadly, I got confirmation from a Twins exec that LC members cannot get tickets to the Gophers game (unless they buy day of game), despite what the membership agreement says. They are relying that these are general admission tickets, although that limitation only applies to non-baseball events. From the Legends Club agreement:

"Member has the right to purchase tickets in the Ballpark to other baseball-related events, including playoff games, World Series games and All-Star Games, at the prices established from time to time for such seats by Twins Ballpark, the Twins, the Office of the Commissioner of Baseball, and/or the promoter or sponsor of the event."

Notice that there are no exclusions for baseball-related events. Are the Twins classifying a college baseball game as a "non-baseball related event"?

How many LC members are going to want to go to this game? How hard could this be?

In the grand scheme of things, this is no big deal, but it's distressing that I've been assured multiple times by season ticket staff that I would have tickets. I can't really do much about it, though I have canceled plans for a group outing for this summer as a silent protest.

I realize this may seem petty and immaterial to some, but I promised my daughter she could go based on the agreement and previous assurances from the Twins and that she wouldn't have to miss a day of work to go stand in line. Looks like that was a mistake without having tickets in hand. Thanks Twins.

(In case anyone is wondering, if there is inclimate weather on the 27th, the game will be played at the Dome).

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 5:03 PM by jfh Highlight this comment 649

Mr. Reusse:
In the town where I live, the public library used to be housed in a beautiful and very distictive old church with a field stone exterior. When the library recently outgrew its space and it came time to construct a new building, one of the library's major benefactors made a big splash of donating funds that would ensure that the new library - built on adjoining property on the same block - would have those same field stone walls. Perhaps it wasn't her fault that the building's designer had already planned an architectural style very similar to the existing library. To this day, puzzled visitors comment: "Why are there two identical stone churches on this block?!"

Minor league park design and all, I relish my memories of the old Met and its funky color scheme. 50 years later, except for reliving those memories, I'm not so sure it would be the first place I'd pick for attending a ballgame. Minnie and Paul, 573, the flagpole... that's plenty of the old Met for me.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 5:04 PM by schweady Highlight this comment 650

Thanks for the clarification. I'm slapping my forehead as I write this.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 5:04 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 651

Yes,,,Finally being able to use my MLB Gameday Audio again..Play Ball!!!!!!!!!

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 6:01 PM by Steve Highlight this comment 652

Twins Grapefruit League season begins now!  Go Twins!

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 6:06 PM by Buzz Highlight this comment 653

I had to go pick up my copy of The Show today.. Was gonna wait a week but I couldn't anymore

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 6:12 PM by Jimmer Highlight this comment 654

"I thought the promotion schedule was supposed to be out today . . . guess not. :("

Someone here contacted the Twins and was told that the promo schedule would be out "by Friday" and such was reported here. Please take note that it is not yet three seconds before Saturday.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 6:17 PM by Ben Highlight this comment 655

Thought tonights game was going to be on MLB TV?? I got it for my dad but still have the login. I guess not.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 6:37 PM by DVS2008 Highlight this comment 656

First of all Josh get a hold of me about season tickets. I did join a partnership but now I need to unload a lot of my tickets. Second of all I walked around Target Field for the 1st time today and I can literally say my head is about to explode I'm so excited! The place looks amazing, but the security guard who said I couldn't go inside had a certain arrogance about him I really didn't like. Has anyone on this blog played MLB 2K10?

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 6:54 PM by HebrewHammer16 Highlight this comment 657

My letter to Patrick Reusse:

Dear Mr. Reusse,

I've been reading your column for years and I have generally enjoyed your views on many occasions, although you're a horrible Twins prognosticator as you've proven on many occasions to have left them for dead when they were anything but. All the same, I was a bit insulted by your column today. I am part of the Generation X that you speak of in such glowing terms in today's paper. I am also a Twins season ticket holder as I was in the Metrodome.

I am going to make no apologies for wanting a nice ballpark, but I must say that I was not amused to be told that I don't really attend said park to watch a ballgame. My wife and I keep scorecards most games. We rarely get up from our seats in the middle of a game unless it is truly necessary. I have also complained about many a baby boomer who has been in the stands for nothing more than a good time and who is not paying the least bit of attention to the game. Age has very little to do with purpose for attending a Twins game.

By making this an inter-generational issue, you miss the point entirely. Your argument goes out the door. The baby boomer generation is at least equally as responsible for creating a culture of "me." As someone who grew up in the '80s, I think anyone who was a 30-something adult during that decade has no right to accuse the younger crowd of somehow lacking a certain ability to go without.

And I must tell you on a separate topic, the Twins management laughed at you about the bricks because the Met colored bricks was simply not a very good idea. I realize that everyone feels that his or her youth was a golden age, but I am here to inform you that the color scheme of the Met was ugly. There was absolutely no reason to attempt to duplicate it for posterity. Perhaps we will be able to honor the Met one day by roping off the entire third deck. We'll call it "Remember the Met Day." As everyone goes from section to section, they will be required to completely leave the ballpark, walk clear around, and enter from a different gate. It will be great!

As for baby boomers, my parents, also rabid Twins fans, are very excited about this ballpark. They're going to absolutely adore going, as well they should. And I'll be damned if they're going to be getting out of the way of another generation anytime soon.

One final thing: If all you want to eat is traditional ballpark fare, all power to you. Since my wife is a vegetarian, we're pretty pleased there will be a couple halfway decent options for her for once. I don't really think offering a slightly better menu is going to destroy any field-of-dreams moments.

I wish you the best. Go Twins!

Sincerely,

James P Berka
Saint Paul, MN

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 7:45 PM by jpberka Highlight this comment 658

Thanks, James. I couldn't agree with you more. Patrick Reusse should not be allowed to speak/write. Ever.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 8:49 PM by Rusty Shackleford Highlight this comment 659

I caught a bit of Reusse's show today on 1500AM...I must confess, I couldn't tell you one thing he said the entire show. He sounds like an incoherent drunk.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 9:06 PM by luke Highlight this comment 660

The Caribou partnership is now official. I hope they bring their Coolers. They would go great on those hot afternoons1

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 9:24 PM by DreDogg Highlight this comment 661

I for one think the Twins might be in trouble after losing tonight in the spring training opener. Their "powerful" lineup only scored one run.

Just kidding everyone! Boxscores on espn.com; welcome back baseball!

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 9:33 PM by Ole Highlight this comment 662

I put together a virtual tour of Target Field complete with pictures of the skyline, the plaza, the dugouts, and more. With 13 pictures total, I tried to capture some of the best features of Target Field.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 9:35 PM by TwinsTerritory Highlight this comment 663

Looking closely at those photos Jared took, you can see above the Puckett Gate that the "TAR" of the "Target Field" signed have already burned out. Nice...

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 9:41 PM by Faber College Alum Highlight this comment 664

Also, here is a Flickr set of 33 total pictures that I'll post at some point too (MLB 10: The Show).

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 9:46 PM by TwinsTerritory Highlight this comment 665

MONTAGE!!!!!

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 9:49 PM by TimInDuluth Highlight this comment 666

Looking at the screen caps from The Show, It looks like they have the dugouts on the wrong sides. Look at the angled seating behind the dugouts. Do they still have the Twins on the 3B side?

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 10:04 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 667

I jumped the gun there. Perhaps the dugouts are closer toward the plate than in a lot of parks that the seats are angled toward the middle of the diamond and away from the plate.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 10:13 PM by Winona Mike Highlight this comment 668

The Twins are indeed on the first base side. Looking at the pictures, it looks like I captured the shot when it wasn't quite centered.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 10:17 PM by TwinsTerritory Highlight this comment 669

I've never understood why people are so concerned with how other people take in baseball games. Why does it matter to you if others are there for more than just the game? Do you have to point it out to make yourself feel more like a "true fan"? Stop worrying about what others are doing and go on with your own life.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 10:23 PM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 670

tim in duluth - thanks for the montage. about 20-25 seconds into your montage one can see old former u.s. vice president walter "fritz" mondale in the crowd at game 163 against the tigers! just behind and to the right of the guy with the "game 163, take 2" sign. thought i would point that out. too funny.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 10:31 PM by Betaband Highlight this comment 671

Buffalo, clearly if you think that this is just a matter of a person trying to feel like a better fan, then I don't know what to tell you.

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 10:49 PM by jpberka Highlight this comment 672

I just don't understand why it bugs people so much and I doubt I ever will. And, yes, when people go out of their way to complain about others going for more than just the game and point out their own supposed superiorities, it does make me think they are doing it just to make themselves look better.

I go to a baseball game for whatever reason I want and I don't look to others to validate why I go to games. I don't give a crap why they family in front of me went to the game. I don't care if they get up to buy food and souvenirs repeatedly or arrive late and leave early. Who really cares?

Posted on March 4, 2010 at 11:01 PM by Buffalo Highlight this comment 673

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Posted on May 31, 2010 at 07:47 AM by Pharmg659 Highlight this comment 674


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The Metropolitan Club (click to enlarge)



Staircase view












573 Club



A mysterious smile from within a very deep planter!



Door to the visitor's clubhouse.



The entrances are all the way around on the other side.









Skywalk over Seventh, looking back toward the parking ramp



Cross section diagram of the field structure. (Click to enlarge.)



The limestone theme is apparently carried to the area behind home plate. This will look great -- and distinctive -- on TV. But watch out for those foul balls!



Citi Field as viewed from Shea.






Typical standing room crowd which started early and lasted the entire game.









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This is amazingly close to completed. It's a short tunnel entrance ramp to 394 underneath the outfield stands.






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Crosswalk taking shape.









These two sections are within a few feet of one another.



Viewed from a different angle, it seems fair to wonder is some of those seats will have slightly obscured views. Yet, if they're cheap, that's not a problem.



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Dan Kenney, my tour guide



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Some of your fellow BPMers at a game in May of 2010 (we had almost the whole section)



Detail enclosing the main ticket window area












Inside the Metropolitan Club. Classic photo of a youthful Bob Casey at far right. (Photo by Tyler Wycoff)



The Target Center rooftop patio. Hardly glamorous, but a great view of the ballpark.






Concept drawing of Coomer gate (click to enlarge)


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HERC - Hennepin Energy Resource Company (aka the Garbage Burner)

HPB - Home Plate Box

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LC - Legends Club

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MBA - Minnesota Ballpark Authority (will own Target Field)

MOA - Mall of America

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STH - Season Ticket Holder

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