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July 11, 2007 12:52 AM

Be sure to check out the ballpark webcam which has just come online. There is a similar cam available for the Nationals ballpark.

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Wow. The Nationals are just a tad further along. They must not have had a land dispute.

Posted on July 11, 2007 at 8:07 PM by Jeff T. Highlight this comment 1

Jeff, the groundbreaking for the Nats park was in May 2006, so obviously they are further along. It's scheduled to open in 2008.

Posted on July 11, 2007 at 8:50 PM by Lafferty Daniel Highlight this comment 2

I was listening to Pat Ruesse on the radio recently and he thought that the Twins and Nationals stadiums were passed in the same Legislative timeframes. He was chastizing Hennepin County for taking so long in getting started compared to D.C. His dates must have been off. Thanks for the clarification.

Posted on July 11, 2007 at 10:19 PM by Jeff T. Highlight this comment 3

Citi Field construction pic. Click link.

Posted on July 13, 2007 at 5:25 PM by Lafferty Daniel Highlight this comment 4

HAS ANYONE NOTICED HOW LOUSY THE SEATING IS IN FOUL TERRITORY ON THE 3RD BASE SIDE? THE FARTHER DOWN THE LINE YOU GET, THE WORSE THE SIGHT LINE. IF YOU'RE SITTING PAST 3RD BASE YOU'RE LOOKING RIGHT AT THE CENTER FIELDER. CLASSIC HOK SEATING BOWL THAT IS PARRALEL TO THE FOUL LINE. I DON'T LIKE IT. WASN'T THAT THE PROBLEM WITH THE DOME? I'M GLAD THERE WILL BE A NEW BALLPARK BUT I KNEW HOK WOULD SCREW UP THE SEATING DIRECTION.

Posted on July 17, 2007 at 11:11 AM by JOHN Highlight this comment 5

According to numerous design documents, every seat in the new ballpark will face the infield. That's non-negotiable.

One note on the web cam: It is changing URLs every 24 hours, probably to prevent sites like this one from showing the images. Annoying, to say the least, and I'm working on a small program which will fix that.

Posted on July 17, 2007 at 12:18 PM by Rick 6

John, I was at HoK's At&t Park in San Francisco last week. What they do there, like many HoK and non-HoK parks is angle the seats in the outfield corners to face second base, unlike the Metrodome. It's not perfect, but that's why tickets are cheaper in the corners compared to behind homeplate.

I am not trying to defend HoK, in fact I can't stand their generic seating arrangements compared to cantilevered decks. Obviously club seats and boxes are a priority to MLB teams and HoK.

Rick, do you know what role HGA had in the design? I've heard that they had a lot to do with the exterior design and HoK developed their typical structure, seating alignments, and overall engineering.

Posted on July 17, 2007 at 12:58 PM by Lafferty Daniel Highlight this comment 7

The direction of the aisle dictates the direction that the seats will face. Unless there is a new "angled" seat design I don't know about...

Posted on July 17, 2007 at 1:40 PM by JOHN Highlight this comment 8

I was surprised to find out that HGA is doing mostly infrastructure engineering and design, and almost nothing with the actual appearance of the park or the surrounding area.

I think the team (and the Ballpark Authority) want to be able to say that a local firm is intimately involved in the design of the project, which is technically true. But saying that implies that they are providing design guidance for "local flavor", which is definitely NOT the case.

Of course, HOK is only as good as their collaborators. In this case, the Twins seem to be providing very specific direction to HOK, which means that the issues of local customization are being well-tended.

Posted on July 17, 2007 at 1:50 PM by Rick 9

John makes a good point that I had not considered. I've been taking the word of the team and the documentation (i.e. the publicity/marketing hoo hah) about the seat angles.

But looking at the aisles, which are very specifically drawn in the plans which have been released, one has to wonder just what those seats down the line are pointed toward.

I will investigate this further and report back.

Posted on July 17, 2007 at 1:55 PM by Rick 10

Click on link to see At&t park's 3rd baseline.

Posted on July 17, 2007 at 3:56 PM by Lafferty Daniel Highlight this comment 11

Thanks Rick as always. This very much concerns me as this is a clean slate and those seats look terrible. Hopefully they have an angled seat design because the structure is parallel with the foul line. I think I may have noticed this (upper deck) at PetCo in SD, but I can't remember where I saw the photos.

Posted on July 17, 2007 at 4:25 PM by JOHN Highlight this comment 12

Lafferty - I think you're missing the point. You are stating the obvoius.

Posted on July 18, 2007 at 12:16 PM by JOHN Highlight this comment 13

Dan Kenny at the Ballpark Authority says that the seats will, in fact, face the infield. The angle of the rows does not match the angle of the seats. Click the link to see an image from Petco which shows how that works.

He also wanted to clarify about HGA's role:

"...it is true that they are the lead on the civil engineering side. But I should have also emphasized that Bill Blanski was very involved in the exterior design."

Posted on July 18, 2007 at 1:11 PM by Rick 14

Rick - thanks for the update on the seats. I assumed the seats must be different than the angle of the aisle, but its nice to get a confirmation and a picture.

Posted on July 18, 2007 at 1:34 PM by IowaWigman Highlight this comment 15

JOHN, how am I stating the obvious? I simply used At&t Park as an example of how many ballparks angle their outfield corner seats toward second base. You admitted that you've never heard of that, and Rick has a link that shows another example.

I really appreciate your concern for the Twins getting it right. I've been to almost every ballpark in bigs and hope that the new Twins field will be considered one of the best in baseball.

peace

Posted on July 18, 2007 at 2:44 PM by Lafferty Daniel Highlight this comment 16

Thank you once again Rick. I thought PetCo had angled seats but could not find a photo. You, of course, did just that! Now if they could just swap some of those in the dome when the Twins play... THX!

Posted on July 18, 2007 at 2:53 PM by JOHN Highlight this comment 17

Laferty, I was talking about the seats down the third base line, not in the outfiled corners...Every baseball stadium in the country angles the outfield corner seats... Your link would't work so I could only go by your words.

Posted on July 18, 2007 at 3:58 PM by John Highlight this comment 18

Rick...do you know when the new drawings are going to be released? Ground breaking?

Posted on July 19, 2007 at 7:01 PM by MOJO Highlight this comment 19

MOJO - the official ground breaking ceremony is August 2. Although now that I read your message again, maybe you are asking if the new drawings will be released at the official ground breaking, in which case just ignore my message.

Posted on July 20, 2007 at 08:49 AM by IowaWigman Highlight this comment 20

From stadiumpage.com, here is a wide shot of the Yankee Stadium II construction. Click link.

Posted on July 20, 2007 at 12:40 PM by Lafferty Daniel Highlight this comment 21

Here is a pic of the proposed Montreal Expos stadium.

Posted on July 21, 2007 at 04:32 AM by Lafferty Daniel Highlight this comment 22

Have they announced the color scheme for the seats yet? I'm hoping there isn't any blue. That nationals park looks rather blah.

Posted on July 21, 2007 at 1:00 PM by Tim Highlight this comment 23

Tim, I want blue seats. All baseball,
football, and soccer fields are green. I
see wisdom in placing other colors around such fields. Blue has blended in
very well with green fields for years.
The Metrodome, Turner Field, Yankee
Stadium, Three Rivers Stadium, Tiger
Stadium, and Atlanta Fulton County Stadium are examples. The walls need
other colors as well (blue is great!).
Thanks.

Posted on July 22, 2007 at 1:49 PM by Chris Highlight this comment 24

I wouldn't mind a dark blue color scheme with red and white accents to match the Twins colors. I don't want the same bright blue we've had at the dome. Green is also used at many great ballparks.

Posted on July 22, 2007 at 10:45 PM by Tim Highlight this comment 25

The seats are going to be "Fenway green" unless something has changed during the last two months.

I would also like to see dark blue seats such as Kauffman Stadium (Kansas City), PNC Park (Pittsburgh), and Citizens Bank Park (Philadelphia). Green is used in too many new ballparks such as Milwaukee, Baltimore, Houston, Seattle, Cleveland, Texas and so on. It would be nice to have dark blue seats to resemble "The Land of the Lakes". Dark blue seats would look good with the green grass and the limestone. I know some of you may say the Metrodome already has blue seats, but those are more of a royal/bright blue. I want to see a dark/navy blue, even though I am pretty sure the decision has been made to go "Fenway Green" with the seats.

On another note...Has anyone seen any of the latest renderings? Word has it there has been new renderings since the initial renderings in April. I would like to see some renderings of a "Night game" with the lights on and the city skyline. Also, I would like to see a cross-section comparison to the Metrodome to see how the seats compare as far as height and distance from the field. They have a few nice cross-section plans for the new ballpark, but I would like to see how the new ballpark compares to the Metrodome, especially the Upper Deck.

Posted on July 23, 2007 at 7:50 PM by Luke Highlight this comment 26

I agree Luke, green is too common in the new parks. I don't understand why more teams don't use multiple colors like Dodger Stadium. The Twins could go with dark blue in the lower decks and Twins red in the upper deck. Why not put the TC logo in the seats behind homeplate like Mile High Stadium. Instead, we might get something boring and stale like Citi Field. Click link for pic.

Let's just make sure those seats get filled every night so we won't be able to notice the color.

Posted on July 23, 2007 at 9:59 PM by Lafferty Daniel Highlight this comment 27

Does anyone know when the new/revised renderings will be made available?

Posted on July 24, 2007 at 2:18 PM by John Highlight this comment 28

John,

I checked with the Ballpark Authority and there is no schedule yet for releasing revised drawings.

Posted on July 24, 2007 at 2:23 PM by Rick 29

For those in the know, what efforts have been made to celebrate the rich tradition of baseball in Minnesota, including the Twins?

With the scheduled 2010 completion date, it would seem logical to have a Twins (Minnesota baseball/sports) museum launch simeltaneously in commemoration of 50 wonderful years.

Posted on July 27, 2007 at 4:48 PM by Damian A. Schaab Highlight this comment 30

To Jeff T: The nationals did not have a land dispute. What they DID have was a dispute between MLB and the DC City Councel that nearly scuttled the whole deal.

Posted on October 3, 2007 at 2:57 PM by Tim Highlight this comment 31

It'd be nice to have something to pay homage to the old Met and, yes, the Dome as well. A museum space would be nice and would enhance the experience of going to the game.

Posted on January 18, 2008 at 8:20 PM by Mark S. Highlight this comment 32

Looking at the webcam, it appears that one could walk from North 6th St (near Ford Ctr) over the North 5th St overpass to Target Ctr. Is this so, or is the overpass still blocked by your construction?

Posted on June 9, 2008 at 12:24 PM by angie Highlight this comment 33


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